Flight Rising Discussion

@Teeka oh yes, that was definitely strange as well! i'm just trying to offer context for people who think this seems less weird than the one we had before!

they should rename it to lapra because i like pokemon references

Lol, I don't care either way I'm not going to put up a fuss about one familiar name out of the hundreds there are. Especially when you can rename the thing if you use it

... If we get a recolor it should be called Lilypad Champ. 'cause we have a 'Nessie' at home. :p


Also what I think would be a better analogy to the frankenstein thing would be like if we referred to all vampires as Draculas. As humorous as that is when it happens, Dracula (the fantasy character) was just one very famous individual. It's a little silly. This is a silly game though so...

Lilypad Loch didn't make sense in our language but I don't really think the actual etymology of the word here is important because "loch" just might be like the word "sparrow" when referring to an organism like this. As we started associating "Loch Ness" with the Loch Ness monster, loch being the word for a lake, even though Loch Ness isn't the cryptid, it's completely sensible for someone to just call a fantasy creature a "loch". I really don't think there was any need for the original Loch name to be changed, but Lochness doesn't really flow as well. What about Lochneck. Like Longneck but thematic :) Edit: Just read the suggestion post and I see, the concerns are definitely valid. Actually, I'm not gonna go into a lengthy discussion regarding endangered languages as that's not my place to do so. All I can say is that various words of now almost defunct languages or actually defunct languages still exist in modern words due to etymological evolution, e.g. almost no one speaks Latin anymore but it's practically everywhere, especially in the scientific community and even in everyday speech. Croatia has some dying cultures and dialects (which, in comparison with English accents, are almost unique languages) but I think letting the world know about them and introducing them to tourists would help in strengthening their health? Anyway, I do agree that the least one should expect is the actual language being respected. [quote name="RheoTastic" date="2023-06-09 23:13:51" ] considering that FR is canonically millennia posthumans (...) [/quote] Wait did I miss something? Didn't Undel specifically say humans never existed on Sornieth? The creatures from the Second Age may have been vaguely humanoid, at least from the shapes we can see, but Sornieth was never actually inhabited by humans? Or at least the statements are vague enough and some things have changed since 2013, and the more recent statement is that no one has ever seen a human (on Sornieth). hmmm

[quote name="Churrell" date="2023-06-10 07:44:56" ] Implying that people are pedantic for wanting monster names changed specifically in the context of a discussion about cultural misappropriation is a shame, because up until that point I was seeing the point about the wide acceptance of “Frankenstein” as a monster type. Notably, Frankenstein wasn’t a real person, but right now we are looking at real cultural heritage [/quote] Being a pedant is not necessarily a bad thing, friend. I'm sure all of us are in one way or another. But if you are being pedantic, expect people who are more chill about the topic (for example, the people who had no problem calling it a lilypad lake, or even a lilypad lakehuron - this specifically is my preferred choice because I think it sounds cool - or anything like that) to find the desire to conform to the rules [i]exactly[/i] a bit annoying. Which is valid. For literally every topic (even the culturally sensitive), you can find someone from that group who says, "lol no that's fine." There are a lot of people in the world. And a lot of people even in the tiniest country or ethnicity. Not everyone is the same. Either way, FR clearly does this with naming random creatures sometimes. And calling something a lilypad lake or the equivalent in any language doesn't sounds weird to me. It's kinda becoming more cute the more I say it. Also, best comment: [quote name="Halszkaraptor" date="2023-06-10 08:15:24" ] ... If we get a recolor it should be called Lilypad Champ. 'cause we have a 'Nessie' at home. :p [/quote]

[quote name="jotunn" date="2023-06-09 23:49:46" ] I thought the original was just supposed to be a mirror of the tortoises that are called gardens, by having this turtle be called a lake? Not really sure why it would need to be changed if that was the intended naming convention. [/quote] but the travelling garden (which is just a single familiar; it's recolor is simply called a tortoise) has a good reason to be named that, since it's covered in plants meaning that it essentially [i]is[/i] a travelling garden (the description even references this!) meanwhile, there isn't really anything about this familiar's design that makes calling it a 'lake' suitable. maybe if it were one of those inflatable kiddie pools... which would also be a really funny familiar to have now that i think about it.