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[quote]I'm glad that the devs seem to be trying to freshen up the overall coli experience with changes like this. [/quote] [quote]Balance changes in online games are inevitable, and most of the time players just have to adapt in response.[/quote] I restatted my Mire trainer. I’m doing the exact same thing as before with a similar (if slightly lower on some starts) level of efficiency. Rally. Eliminate. Next battle. Repeat. Fresh as month old crusty socks over here. Refreshing a bit more and spending 30kt are certainly not rebalancing or nerfing the Mire for me. I’m more cautious of starting on physical mobs now, but that’s all. I’d rather forgo the irritation and stick with what I had. Though others are more bothered by the new builds. People *will* adapt whether they like it or not, but the change itself is pointless. [quote]The devs don't make these changes for no reason; they've likely thought this out and this is according to their plans for what they want coli to be.[/quote] Players found out fairly quickly with simple math new optimal builds. If the devs intended to rebalance anything, I’d like to believe that they would be able to come up with changes/rebalancing that isn’t negated fairly well within a day. And if this is intentional and planned for - what was the point? Change venues ever so slightly so that players pay 30kt and get right back on track? IMO the changes were somewhat unintentional (all the new enemies are Mire level, nothing insane), with stats being thrown out there with little regard for rebalancing and player builds. In which case, they have nothing to lose by tweaking some enemy stats.

[quote]Okay then, so...if the change is "pointless" and was completely "negated" by players finding new avenues to grind then what harm is there in keeping it?[/quote] Because it continues to negatively effect players, whether that be because they still have to buy tinctures, or because they are having a hard time adjusting to newer builds. No one’s had years to get used to the new builds, or make their own personal tweaks to them, but they have the old ones. No player was harmed by the old meta, but the update harms some, and I do not see how the new meta benefits us more than the old one did. [quote]Forcing players to find new meta/builds is the entire point of a rebalance. In FR's case, since we currently don't have PVP or "collaborative raids" of any kind, that does basically boil down to everybody who min-maxes buying a tincture and fixing their dragons' stats.[/quote] Perhaps, but rebalancing should benefit players in some way - directly or indirectly - in itself. Not in forcing new builds or metas for the sake of change, but in improving the coliseum. Getting people to spend 30kt on one of their dragons ever doesn’t do much, even as a treasure sink. Right now, the Coliseum needs to be more engaging, not slower. With more engagement and entertainment, people will become less focused on speed as simply playing has a benefit other than the rewards. The Coliseum needs to be revamped and rebalanced, but in a way that will improve the experience. Currently, there is no reason to sit back and enjoy the flowers, and the update did nothing to remedy that. [quote]But that's still treasure being removed from the system and on top of that, according to some players in this very thread, if there is a slight slow down in what they're able to grind that prevents that loot/treasure from being generated in the first place.[/quote] There is a slow down, and the Coliseum is as unengaging as ever. Perhaps this slow down will help the economy in the long run, but it has a negative impact on players’ ability/desire to use the Coliseum now. We all know that treasure sinks are needed, but it’s best if they are ones we willingly spend on. Don’t lower income, but encourage players to spend. The Mire isn’t even the best venue to grind items for hoardselling in, and it discourages the most efficient fodder training method. Exalting might introduce a lot of money into the game, but exalting is, in turn, necessary for the site. [quote]If you ask me, this is an incredibly minimal shake-up considering Arcane element dragons are still the most viable element for the Mire, meaning nobody even had to train up or buy a new dragon of a different element to continue grinding.[/quote] Element matters very little on fodder trainers; you’re not meant to be taking much damage. Having the best element doesn’t do a whole lot, so there wasn’t much potential for people needing new dragons at all.