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@Starwindrider It's a given that at least one pair will be town/town since the amount of wolves in the game wouldn't make for enough wolf/x pairs. I'll agree with (I think it was?) Storia and others who mentioned the most likely spread was 5-6 maf and I'll up it with a 2-3 3p players in there. Some 3p roles are more town-aligned and it's something I could see to try to better balance the game.

just realised i forgot to answer the vig question from Slairisk

if i had an obvious sus / i suspect i'm going to get killed / elimmed i would probably shoot immediately, but otherwise i would likely hold off until i'm reasonably sure someone's maf

[quote name="Ainsell" date="2024-04-18 07:12:38" ] I think it'd be good for all of us to get some sort of readlist out asap regardless. Mafia is incredibly unlikely to take out one of their own lovers so we're probably losing two town tonight. Mine is mostly going to be vibes based (I dislike not having enough specific things to point to but we'll get there.) Good vibes: ArtMajor, SpiderQueen8, fearfax Tangle: Tangle Neutral vibes: Hiiii, LostLuminary, ChaoticPotato Vibes are being Checked: softsylveon, RaccoonusDoodus Since the last is a current point of contention and my reasoning might be requested later: five hours and relatively few posts later doesn't seem like a good reason to cast a vote back, especially considering Raccoon has played with Tangle a few times now. It read as OMGUS/frustration vote at the least to me. Tangle gets her own category for now because she's playing within everything I remember for her... and also because I never trust her (in-game) as far as I can throw her. (ily tangle) She's generating useful discussion so I'm not currently worried about her. [/quote] I agree that Raccoon sounds frustrated. Having a tier for a specific player is interesting. How long do you think you typically hold reservations for Tangle if you have a history together? @Ainsell

@Ainsell @Storia @softsylveon

Oh thanks! Makes sense.

[quote name="Ainsell" date="2024-04-18 07:12:38" ] Five hours and relatively few posts later doesn't seem like a good reason to cast a vote back, especially considering Raccoon has played with Tangle a few times now. It read as OMGUS/frustration vote at the least to me. [/quote] I think I'd agree with your take here on the Raccoon/Tangle situation. While Raccoons behaviour does seem suspicious as a self preservation vote this early into the day when there was no-one else pointing fingers at them is definetly enough to squint at, it might also be out of frustration. @RaccoonusDoodus Is your vote purely for self preservation, with you planning on changing it if another good candidate appears, or do you actually believe that Tangle is scum (or is as scummy as someone can be this early in the game)?

@fearfax For Tangle? Oh, this tier will last like 8 hours TOPS lol. Tangle is consistent, consistently good, and (like I said) generating good discussion regardless so I want to give myself more time to pay attention to them.

@softsylveon

what do you mean by arguments? i don't really seen any arguing going on except for the raccoon/tangle votes rn.

[quote name="@hotpants" date="2024-04-18 07:28:02" ] [quote name="Ainsell" date="2024-04-18 07:12:38" ] Five hours and relatively few posts later doesn't seem like a good reason to cast a vote back, especially considering Raccoon has played with Tangle a few times now. It read as OMGUS/frustration vote at the least to me. [/quote] I think I'd agree with your take here on the Raccoon/Tangle situation. While Raccoons behaviour does seem suspicious as a self preservation vote this early into the day when there was no-one else pointing fingers at them is definetly enough to squint at, it might also be out of frustration. @/RaccoonusDoodus Is your vote purely for self preservation, with you planning on changing it if another good candidate appears, or do you actually believe that Tangle is scum (or is as scummy as someone can be this early in the game)? [/quote] Partial self pres, partial scum lean. I will go into more detail on my readlist, I promise :]