Please!! So many of the lower level venues are fantastic to look at.....but unless it's the prime location for fest grinding I NEVER go there because it feels like a waste of time.
Fodder is a major element of coli use, pidgeonholing users into one main venue (Mire which is also incredibly boring visually) and a couple "not great but anything is better than the Mire again!" second choice options just makes the whole process even less fun.
We need a couple more 24 levels anyway but anything to take the pressure off Mire would be great.
Please!! So many of the lower level venues are fantastic to look at.....but unless it's the prime location for fest grinding I NEVER go there because it feels like a waste of time.
Fodder is a major element of coli use, pidgeonholing users into one main venue (Mire which is also incredibly boring visually) and a couple "not great but anything is better than the Mire again!" second choice options just makes the whole process even less fun.
We need a couple more 24 levels anyway but anything to take the pressure off Mire would be great.
[quote name="NoirVogelchen" date="2021-10-10 08:58:05" ]
[quote name="gemajgall" date="2021-10-10 08:04:41" ]
TBH, I support too.
Either this or the "all venues have the option to be played at level 25" suggestion that popped up eons ago.
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That would be rad too.
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I support this. I need some more variety. Also- low venue revamps are not as appealing to me BECAUSE they give no experience. I would play more venues if they were worthwhile :(
NoirVogelchen wrote on 2021-10-10 08:58:05:
gemajgall wrote on 2021-10-10 08:04:41:
TBH, I support too.
Either this or the "all venues have the option to be played at level 25" suggestion that popped up eons ago.
That would be rad too.
I support this. I need some more variety. Also- low venue revamps are not as appealing to me BECAUSE they give no experience. I would play more venues if they were worthwhile :(
Oh full support.
Like others have already said, lower level venues already give much less exp. I don't fully understand why you aren't able to get any whatsoever when the amounts are already near worthless for fodder leveling. I could maybe understand something like a -50% exp debuff at 5 levels over as well, it doesn't make it worthless but it disincentivizes severe grinding in those areas while giving more leeway on your dragons level
If we really want to cover our bases, make this sort of thing optional. We have an options menu, it could just be placed under a separate tab alongside other things (a lvl 24/25 toggle like I've seen suggested?) and can be toggled freely with the default being on (Maybe? I'm sure non-nuzlock coli players outnumber the nuzlockers, and this could help fool-proof it for newer players or for those that have a hard time figuring out the menus)
Oh full support.
Like others have already said, lower level venues already give much less exp. I don't fully understand why you aren't able to get any whatsoever when the amounts are already near worthless for fodder leveling. I could maybe understand something like a -50% exp debuff at 5 levels over as well, it doesn't make it worthless but it disincentivizes severe grinding in those areas while giving more leeway on your dragons level
If we really want to cover our bases, make this sort of thing optional. We have an options menu, it could just be placed under a separate tab alongside other things (a lvl 24/25 toggle like I've seen suggested?) and can be toggled freely with the default being on (Maybe? I'm sure non-nuzlock coli players outnumber the nuzlockers, and this could help fool-proof it for newer players or for those that have a hard time figuring out the menus)
[quote name="Amut" date="2021-10-10 08:04:01" ]
Huge support. I think the venues should give out their total xp, regardless of party level.
In Training Fields there are no bosses and regular xp is around 50.
In Thunderhead Savanna the boss base xp is 1315, regular enemies are around 300.
In Mire bosses are about 2800, regular enemies are 435 ish.
In Forbitten Portal bosses are 3200, regular enemies around 440.
Once you're trying to level a dragon, you'll have to choose between leveling fast or levelling slow. The dragon's going to take the same xp to level up, regardless of the venue it's in.
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Since there's no way to stop your dragons from gaining xp and leveling up, you're constantly being pushed out of the venues you want to be in if you're trying to level and grind.
I think it'd stop the nagging for new venues if we could actually use all of them for some levelling, even the amounts are fixed to their max amount.
For example, I always train my fodder to 10. That's 69,655 that I have to put into each one total. Mire battles are about 1305 ex with regular 3-enemies mobs, So that's about 54 rounds for me.
It's still the same amount of XP, so it shouldn't matter if I want to earn 69,655 in Thunderhead Savannah or Training Fields. I'm automatically going to be slowed down, so I don't see a problem where "people train fodder faster at lower levels" because by the numbers, that seems to be impossible. So you can get more rounds in faster, true, but each round pays out so much less it takes more rounds to be equivalent.
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I'm bad at maths so I completely trust this person because their logic is quite good lol!
Full support, even 30 XP if a lvl 25 dragon is present would be fine.
Amut wrote on 2021-10-10 08:04:01:
Huge support. I think the venues should give out their total xp, regardless of party level.
In Training Fields there are no bosses and regular xp is around 50.
In Thunderhead Savanna the boss base xp is 1315, regular enemies are around 300.
In Mire bosses are about 2800, regular enemies are 435 ish.
In Forbitten Portal bosses are 3200, regular enemies around 440.
Once you're trying to level a dragon, you'll have to choose between leveling fast or levelling slow. The dragon's going to take the same xp to level up, regardless of the venue it's in.
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From the Exalting Treasure Payout Chart
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Since there's no way to stop your dragons from gaining xp and leveling up, you're constantly being pushed out of the venues you want to be in if you're trying to level and grind.
I think it'd stop the nagging for new venues if we could actually use all of them for some levelling, even the amounts are fixed to their max amount.
For example, I always train my fodder to 10. That's 69,655 that I have to put into each one total. Mire battles are about 1305 ex with regular 3-enemies mobs, So that's about 54 rounds for me.
It's still the same amount of XP, so it shouldn't matter if I want to earn 69,655 in Thunderhead Savannah or Training Fields. I'm automatically going to be slowed down, so I don't see a problem where "people train fodder faster at lower levels" because by the numbers, that seems to be impossible. So you can get more rounds in faster, true, but each round pays out so much less it takes more rounds to be equivalent.
I'm bad at maths so I completely trust this person because their logic is quite good lol!
Full support, even 30 XP if a lvl 25 dragon is present would be fine.
Support! It would make grinding for stuff in the lower levels so much more worthwhile. Last NOTN I ended up missing out on fodder training completely because I took my lvl 25's to the Bamboo Falls.
Support! It would make grinding for stuff in the lower levels so much more worthwhile. Last NOTN I ended up missing out on fodder training completely because I took my lvl 25's to the Bamboo Falls.
Yes! I especially like the venue level toggle suggestion, but I doubt that would br implemented.
Yes! I especially like the venue level toggle suggestion, but I doubt that would br implemented.
[quote name="ArianaBering" date="2021-10-11 04:16:36" ]
I am very much for this. Even just a single point per battle would make it much more rewarding and motivating to fight in lower level venues. Right now it always feels a bit as if I am "wasting time" when I battle in one of the lower level venues (even if I grind for something I need) because I can't train at all during that time.
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That's me to, I get the same exact feeling when playing at lower venues.
ArianaBering wrote on 2021-10-11 04:16:36:
I am very much for this. Even just a single point per battle would make it much more rewarding and motivating to fight in lower level venues. Right now it always feels a bit as if I am "wasting time" when I battle in one of the lower level venues (even if I grind for something I need) because I can't train at all during that time.
That's me to, I get the same exact feeling when playing at lower venues.
Really I'd be happy with anything at this point, it's such a drag to have to pick between getting a more diverse spread of loot OR xp, especially when you didn't have to make that choice on the way to level 25 as you worked through the venues.
Feels like a punishment for getting your training dragons to level 25 more than anything. [emoji=skydancer sad size=1]
Really I'd be happy with anything at this point, it's such a drag to have to pick between getting a more diverse spread of loot OR xp, especially when you didn't have to make that choice on the way to level 25 as you worked through the venues.
Feels like a punishment for getting your training dragons to level 25 more than anything.
support bc even a little bit of exp makes fest grinding slightly less dull if you can take a fodder dragon with you
support bc even a little bit of exp makes fest grinding slightly less dull if you can take a fodder dragon with you
