GENE VARIANTS
This is a suggestion for a new new type of gene - variants
(They could also be called mutations, abberations, irregular genes etc)
Some genes could have variations available that would change up the gene slightly - adding a slightly different colour in areas, changing the pattern slightly, maybe reducing the gene so it covers less of the dragon etc.
When applying a gene scroll to a dragon there could be an option to pick from any gene variants that are available.
Here's a mock up of what that could look like (excuse the poor font matching)

A 'Scroll of Variance' (Or possibly an 'Unstable Scroll'?) could also be available to craft or purchase. Applying this to a dragon would allow you to change it's gene(s) to variant ones. This could work like the Silhouette Scroll, where once applied you can choose from any variants of applied genes whenever you wish with a tickbox/toggle option menu, or instead could be a single use scroll that changes a single gene once upon use. (Thanks to DragonSage, Jemadar and PersimmonBird)

This is a suggestion for a new new type of gene - variants
(They could also be called mutations, abberations, irregular genes etc)
Some genes could have variations available that would change up the gene slightly - adding a slightly different colour in areas, changing the pattern slightly, maybe reducing the gene so it covers less of the dragon etc.
When applying a gene scroll to a dragon there could be an option to pick from any gene variants that are available.
Here's a mock up of what that could look like (excuse the poor font matching)

A 'Scroll of Variance' (Or possibly an 'Unstable Scroll'?) could also be available to craft or purchase. Applying this to a dragon would allow you to change it's gene(s) to variant ones. This could work like the Silhouette Scroll, where once applied you can choose from any variants of applied genes whenever you wish with a tickbox/toggle option menu, or instead could be a single use scroll that changes a single gene once upon use. (Thanks to DragonSage, Jemadar and PersimmonBird)

How would variants work with breeding and passing on genes?
Share your thoughts on how breeding should be affected in the comments. A special thanks to Jemadar, PersimmonBird, vihuff and everyone who puts their thoughts and ideas forward
Option #1 - Normal breeding rules - If a dragon has a variant, then it's offspring will inherit that specific gene variant (or the gene of it's other parent)
Option #2 - No change to breeding mechanics - Variations are cosmetic only and cannot occur through breeding.
Option #3 - All variations of a gene are a possibility when breeding. The number of breeding outcomes increases but breeding projects and hatcheries will be affected. An additional item could be available to either 'lock down' or 'open up' genes when breeding
Share your thoughts on how breeding should be affected in the comments. A special thanks to Jemadar, PersimmonBird, vihuff and everyone who puts their thoughts and ideas forward
Option #1 - Normal breeding rules - If a dragon has a variant, then it's offspring will inherit that specific gene variant (or the gene of it's other parent)
Option #2 - No change to breeding mechanics - Variations are cosmetic only and cannot occur through breeding.
Option #3 - All variations of a gene are a possibility when breeding. The number of breeding outcomes increases but breeding projects and hatcheries will be affected. An additional item could be available to either 'lock down' or 'open up' genes when breeding
How would searching for certain genes work in the AH and Predict Morphology?
To avoid cluttering up the list of genes to choose from, a separate drop down box could be added to choose a variant from. This could be greyed out by default until a primary/secondary/tertiary gene is selected, at which time the variant drop down box would then fill with available variations for the genes selected. (Thanks to neonhorns)
To avoid cluttering up the list of genes to choose from, a separate drop down box could be added to choose a variant from. This could be greyed out by default until a primary/secondary/tertiary gene is selected, at which time the variant drop down box would then fill with available variations for the genes selected. (Thanks to neonhorns)
How would variants work with the daily exalt bonus?
All variations of a gene would be grouped under the classic/original version - for example if the daily exalt bonus was alloy secondary, the lustre example above would count and receive the bonus
All variations of a gene would be grouped under the classic/original version - for example if the daily exalt bonus was alloy secondary, the lustre example above would count and receive the bonus
Pros and cons
Pros
- Variants offer a solution to players affected by some gene art updates. By making a variant that resembles the old art (without errors, so including the shadow layers, all proper lineart etc) players who have invested gems and treasure into gening their dragons only to have the art change would (eventually) have a variation they could pick post update that wouldn't alter their dragon too much, and everyone else can enjoy the updated art of the original gene (the metallic/alloy change is the thing that prompted me to create this suggestion thread)
- Breathe new life into old genes. I'd love a reason to get excited about cherub or viper
- A lot of new content with very little additional art needed - a lot of variations could be as simple as a new colour change, or deleting parts of the gene such as the side bits of rune tertiary.
- More customization!
Cons
- While it may not be taxing for the art team, this would take a bit to code and implement
- This has potential to disrupt breeding pairs, projects and hatcheries
- Breeding changes and how the new gene type works could be confusing
Pros
- Variants offer a solution to players affected by some gene art updates. By making a variant that resembles the old art (without errors, so including the shadow layers, all proper lineart etc) players who have invested gems and treasure into gening their dragons only to have the art change would (eventually) have a variation they could pick post update that wouldn't alter their dragon too much, and everyone else can enjoy the updated art of the original gene (the metallic/alloy change is the thing that prompted me to create this suggestion thread)
- Breathe new life into old genes. I'd love a reason to get excited about cherub or viper
- A lot of new content with very little additional art needed - a lot of variations could be as simple as a new colour change, or deleting parts of the gene such as the side bits of rune tertiary.
- More customization!
Cons
- While it may not be taxing for the art team, this would take a bit to code and implement
- This has potential to disrupt breeding pairs, projects and hatcheries
- Breeding changes and how the new gene type works could be confusing
Variant suggestions, for fun
Quote:
- The old Ghost

-The unused tapir/striation

- Wider-spaced Jupiter/Saturn (the first version of the genes that were released)

- Old iri/shim and new iri/shim as their own variants
- Skink with an additional splash of colour at the tip of the tail, like Roundsey
- Bland Skink (desaturated)
- Bland poison/toxin
- Jaguar with no colour on the feet
- Jaguar with solid bands on the tail as opposed to the "stretched rosettes" on classic Jaguar
- Contour that goes around the edge of the dragon without going across the legs
- A variant Contour that has cheetah eye-lines, follows the curves of the neck and belly instead of going down the nose and spine
- Smirch without the gradient under it, so it's just a solid colour web
- Stained with a gradient
- Stained but only covering the body/only covering the wings
- Stained with different opacity levels
- stained with patterns/shapes masking it
- The old reverse clown
- Clown with accent colours
- Blossom with different flower shapes
- Butterfly with a different butterfly species patterning
- Petals without the toe markings
- Mosaic/breakup with bigger patterns
- Empty capsule that's just hollow glass
- Capsule with liquid right to the top with no fill line
- Capsule that's empty and cracked
- Capsule but the liquid looks like slime/sludge
- Capsule but the liquid is carbonated
- Capsule with stained glass

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for the stained capsule)
- Glimmer with a gradient
- Filigree without the stones

- Filigree with just the face mask
- Filigree without the face mask

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for making these filigree examples)
- Runes without the feet bits
- Runes without the side bits

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for making these rune and thylacine examples)
- Thylacine without the gradient under it, so it's solid colour (Example above)
- Scales without the side bits
- Scales but not on the face
- Squiggle without the second colour
- Phantom without the spots on the body
- Stitch/patch with different patterns
- Glowing circuit
- Braids with more accent colours
- Wraith but ~shiny~
- Beetle with ladybug spots
- Trimmings without the wing circles
- Candycane/Sugarplum with lighter stripes instead of darker
- Marble/Mottle with wider spaces between the markings
- Skeletal without the chestpiece/leg pieces
- Starmap/Constellation without the white lines
- Fans without the webbing under the chin
- Fans with less/more opacity
- Gaoler fans without the webbing on their heads

(Thanks to MoonlitCacti for the fanless Gaoler)
- Firefly that is brighter and stands out more
- Gembond that matches crystal/facet or is more gem-like
- Gembond with less stones / only stones on the body
- Tiger and stripes with accent colours
- High contrast tiger stripes

- Tiger stripes over a gradient

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for these tiger examples)
- Wasp with new secondary colours

(Caramel)

(Obsidian, coloured to resemble a real wasp. Thanks again to PersimmonBird for these wasp recolours)
- Anodized metallic/alloy that has a rainbow shine over it
- Electroplated metallic/alloy that's hyper shiny
- Tarnished Metallic/alloy with blemishes across it
- Paint/piebald with accent colours replacing the white segments
- Paint/piebald with different splotch patterning
- Paint/piebald with black instead of white
- Fade/blend that fades from accent colors on the extremities(snout, limbs, tail, and wingtips) to the main color on the main body
- Fade/blend with secondary colours different to the ones currently used
- Veined using accent colours so it looks like a vein of ore
- Peacock without the shoulder bits
- Peacock with extra eyes
- New accent colours for pin/trail (could take from poi/tox, nox or skin/spin)
- Okapi but reverse the lighter vs darker hue
- Keel with streamlined scales

(^Keel edit made by Viperfishy)


(^Keel edits made by Gurrero)


(^Keel edits made by houseteeth)
- Subtle giraffe/hex on Obelisks as it's own gene variant
- The 'wrong' underbelly colours for Obelisks as it's own variant

-The unused tapir/striation

- Wider-spaced Jupiter/Saturn (the first version of the genes that were released)

- Old iri/shim and new iri/shim as their own variants
- Skink with an additional splash of colour at the tip of the tail, like Roundsey
- Bland Skink (desaturated)
- Bland poison/toxin
- Jaguar with no colour on the feet
- Jaguar with solid bands on the tail as opposed to the "stretched rosettes" on classic Jaguar
- Contour that goes around the edge of the dragon without going across the legs
- A variant Contour that has cheetah eye-lines, follows the curves of the neck and belly instead of going down the nose and spine
- Smirch without the gradient under it, so it's just a solid colour web
- Stained with a gradient
- Stained but only covering the body/only covering the wings
- Stained with different opacity levels
- stained with patterns/shapes masking it
- The old reverse clown
- Clown with accent colours
- Blossom with different flower shapes
- Butterfly with a different butterfly species patterning
- Petals without the toe markings
- Mosaic/breakup with bigger patterns
- Empty capsule that's just hollow glass
- Capsule with liquid right to the top with no fill line
- Capsule that's empty and cracked
- Capsule but the liquid looks like slime/sludge
- Capsule but the liquid is carbonated
- Capsule with stained glass

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for the stained capsule)
- Glimmer with a gradient
- Filigree without the stones

- Filigree with just the face mask
- Filigree without the face mask

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for making these filigree examples)
- Runes without the feet bits
- Runes without the side bits

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for making these rune and thylacine examples)
- Thylacine without the gradient under it, so it's solid colour (Example above)
- Scales without the side bits
- Scales but not on the face
- Squiggle without the second colour
- Phantom without the spots on the body
- Stitch/patch with different patterns
- Glowing circuit
- Braids with more accent colours
- Wraith but ~shiny~
- Beetle with ladybug spots
- Trimmings without the wing circles
- Candycane/Sugarplum with lighter stripes instead of darker
- Marble/Mottle with wider spaces between the markings
- Skeletal without the chestpiece/leg pieces
- Starmap/Constellation without the white lines
- Fans without the webbing under the chin
- Fans with less/more opacity
- Gaoler fans without the webbing on their heads

(Thanks to MoonlitCacti for the fanless Gaoler)
- Firefly that is brighter and stands out more
- Gembond that matches crystal/facet or is more gem-like
- Gembond with less stones / only stones on the body
- Tiger and stripes with accent colours
- High contrast tiger stripes

- Tiger stripes over a gradient

(Thanks to PersimmonBird for these tiger examples)
- Wasp with new secondary colours

(Caramel)

(Obsidian, coloured to resemble a real wasp. Thanks again to PersimmonBird for these wasp recolours)
- Anodized metallic/alloy that has a rainbow shine over it
- Electroplated metallic/alloy that's hyper shiny
- Tarnished Metallic/alloy with blemishes across it
- Paint/piebald with accent colours replacing the white segments
- Paint/piebald with different splotch patterning
- Paint/piebald with black instead of white
- Fade/blend that fades from accent colors on the extremities(snout, limbs, tail, and wingtips) to the main color on the main body
- Fade/blend with secondary colours different to the ones currently used
- Veined using accent colours so it looks like a vein of ore
- Peacock without the shoulder bits
- Peacock with extra eyes
- New accent colours for pin/trail (could take from poi/tox, nox or skin/spin)
- Okapi but reverse the lighter vs darker hue
- Keel with streamlined scales

(^Keel edit made by Viperfishy)


(^Keel edits made by Gurrero)


(^Keel edits made by houseteeth)
- Subtle giraffe/hex on Obelisks as it's own gene variant
- The 'wrong' underbelly colours for Obelisks as it's own variant
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This thread has had a rewrite. A copy of the thread before it was changed can be found in this dragon's bio