Suggestions

Hello everyone! I'm here to suggest something that's been on my mind since I joined way back in 2013- actual, practical aquatic apparel! As a long time player and ocean-aficionado, I've always wanted some apparel that suits a dragon clan that actually lives their lives underwater. Besides the once-a-year festival apparel, turns out there actually isn't too much on-site apparel that works for a marine lifestyle. Given that many players have dragons that live either in or around Sornieth's waters, it seems a bit of a shame to not include some options for them. This suggestion is not specifically for the water flight of course- every single region on the map touches a body of water after all! As such, there are lots of players who would like some gear that suits their characters' lifestyles and professions. Fishermen, sailors, beachcombers, dockworkers... there are so many good ideas for apparel sets here! I know myself and many others have expressed some desire to actually dress our dragons in practical, environmentally-fitting apparel- so I've drawn out a few of my ideas to show! Below are sets of mock-ups, divided into groups of 6 for length's sake (just concept sketches- open in new tab to see full size). Please, feel free to suggest some more ideas in the thread for apparel you'd like to see! I'll be sketching out some more designs in the future as well. ([url=https://imgur.com/a/aRSbSBG]imgur gallery link for individual sets + colored versions here[/url]) ----- [img]https://i.imgur.com/fftY9sv.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/ByjjqVc.png[/img] ----- The designs above are described as follows (left to right, top to bottom): [LIST] [*] Fisherman's gear. Apparel like this could contain useful fishing equipment (rods, lures, nets, tackle-boxes, etc.) as well as some simple accessories. Also tagging along are some decidedly less helpful seagull companions hoping for a snack or two! (ex: [url=https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-antique-fishing-rods-on-a-wooden-wall-with-a-wicker-fishing-basket-and-rope-38256859.jpg]x[/url], [url=http://www.theonlinefisherman.com/images/stories/Gary_Poyssick_Articles/antique-tackle/antique-fly-rod.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://i.pinimg.com/originals/82/00/ee/8200ee40494e84e2548175137ab02859.jpg]x[/url]) [*] Harbor guide's guise. Apparel like this could include items like boat oars, tendrils of seaweed, anchor accessories, and some old-timey oil lanterns strung along the wings (for that eerie, foggy, 'Shadow-Over-Innsmouth' vibe. Who doesn't love dockyard specters?). Also included could be a covering of barnacles across the dragon's hide. (ex: [url=https://image.isu.pub/130412144749-86e5adac645a4a339a777df7c5652588/jpg/page_1.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://www.advancedsciencenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/lamp.png]x[/url], [url=https://i2.wp.com/fineartamerica.com/images-medium/princes-dock-hull-john-atkinson-grimshaw.jpg]x[/url]) [*] Seashell shaman's set. (colored sketches: [url=https://i.imgur.com/fxmkRyC.png]1[/url] & [url=https://i.imgur.com/Y77N7g9.png]2[/url]) Apparel like this could include strings of beaded shells and pearls, along with flowing fabric for that mysterious wizard/ beachcomber aesthetic. Also included is an ammonite & driftwood staff worn at the hip, and some plated scallop leg coverings! (ex: [url=https://i.imgur.com/2jMNbFa.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://previews.123rf.com/images/slallison/slallison0911/slallison091100014/5826602-scallop-shells-arranged-in-an-overlapping-pattern.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://img01.cp.aliimg.com/imgextra/i1/64382892/TB2iS3XlVXXXXclXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!64382892.jpg]x[/url]) [*] Leviathan hunter's armor. (colored sketches: [url=https://i.imgur.com/ijHGEI4.png]1[/url] & [url=https://i.imgur.com/qtw6JxZ.png]2[/url]) Apparel like this could include bone-plate armor from various aquatic beasts (sea-serpents, whales, etc.), but for this set, I took inspiration from prehistoric fish called placoderms (specifically [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkleosteus]dunkleosteus[/url]). Worn metal fastenings and rope could complete the weathered mariner look going on here. Also included could be a sort of harpoon or harpoon gun, as was common for whalers in the 17th-18th centuries (ex: [url=https://i.imgur.com/RMtbCzY.jpg]x[/url]). Traditional harpoon weapons certainly fit the '1920 or below' technology level on Sornieth. If the industrial vibe isn't what the Flight Rising artistic design is going for, then older hand-held harpoons work too (ex: [url=https://i.imgur.com/ZquZ2LG.png]x[/url]). [*] Shark-tooth scavenger's set. Apparel like this could include shark-tooth bound jewelry and sinew wraps, which is a fairly typical look for many real-world cultures associated with the sea (ex: [url=https://i.imgur.com/Cas77uA.jpg]x[/url]). Serrated knives and tools made from shed teeth could also be used- even entire shark jaws slung around the dragon's neck to make for some extra flair! [*] Poison-spine gatherer's tools. Apparel like this could include armor coverings made of sharp bones and spines (specifically, those like the 'mirage puffer spines' & 'daydreamer's spines' items below). Also included in this set could be some tools for a shallow-water scavenger, like a hooked hunting spear and some useful containers for the dragon's finds! [item=mirage puffer spines] [item=daydreamer's spines] [/LIST] ----- [img]https://i.imgur.com/bNgOlZA.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/6uWVYTr.png[/img] ----- The designs above are described as follows (left to right, top to bottom): [LIST] [*] Pearl-catcher's collection. Apparel like this could contain various strings and hanging ornaments made of pearls and twine. The sizes could range from those of natural oysters, to [i]really[/i] big oysters, to that's-definitely-just-a-PC's-pearl. Also included could be some flowy sashes or fabric for that authentic oracle look. [*] Reef-hide coral. Apparel like this could include arching coral colonies growing from the dragon's body, forming a self-contained reef ecosystem. A branching crown, mantle, limb + hip covers, and wing pieces could complete the set. The type of coral could vary, but I used the site's 'dragonhorn' & 'staghorn' corals. (ex: [url=https://media.vam.ac.uk/media/thira/collection_images/2006AX/2006AX6989.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/mI72I725rQgojjuZGmJYEA0-QdMN9SY4EeC-xVyIRJhyzaIRnwXfKXL7xgX1EsbMUzEMkQSCFiDrSHuYPJeE42CpSh6oDWwEOrbbPqWo1ec5zfZAx1WkLwc2HxHJhZ9J8Py5x4x5mxo]x[/url]) [item=dragonhorn coral] [item=staghorn coral] [*] Dead eel's regalia. Apparel like this could contain sharpened teeth, fish bones, and rope, tied together to form an intimidating mask and adornments. To complete the deep-sea wyrm look, some moray eel companions could slink and slither around the dragon's form. (ex. [url=https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nK5xPLntED8/maxresdefault.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://www.naturepl.com/cache/pcache2/01581330.jpg]x[/url]) [*] Kelp forest keepers. Apparel like this could include large swaths of sea weed or kelp, trailing along the dragon's body and wings. This style could suit not only those within the saltwater kelp forests, but also eerie kelpies or riverfolk emerging from the freshwaters. Also included in the set could be some playful otter companions! (ex: [url=https://condorexpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Orcinus-orca-kelping-Macrocystis-2016-09-13-SB-Channel-e-007-891x594.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/humpback-whale-pectoral-fin-entangled-in-kelp-picture-id466958998]x[/url], [url=https://aquarium.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/IMG_5584-1-1024x683.jpg]x[/url]) [*] Seaspray explorer's set. Apparel like this could include nautical navigation tools, such as compasses, sextants, telescopes, watches, and maps carried on the dragon. Bundles of rough sailing fabric could be hoisted on the wings, clothes, and face. Sea-worn leather and rope could form various belts and straps on the clothing, and a seabird companion could tag along for the ride! (Drawn here as a [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skua]skua[/url], though a petrel or albatross works too). (ex: [url=https://blog.assets.triviagenius.com/2019/07/iStock-616897190.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://img5.goodfon.com/wallpaper/nbig/7/1d/morskie-sredstva-navigatsii-kompass-starye-karty-kanat-nauti.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0b/75/61/0b756163e7bd153f4d673bf96763bb6a.jpg]x[/url]) [*] Wavebreak followers. Apparel like this could include........ well, some friendly dolphin companions tagging along with your dragon through the sea! (This [i]would[/i] have been the set for both the cetacean companions AND whalebone scrimshaw apparel, [i]buuut[/i] the artist got lazy. So. That'll get done... eventually.) [/LIST] ----- ... aaand that's all I've got done for now! If the inspiration strikes, I'll be drawing more designs in the future too! Some ideas so far from good suggestions in this thread and elsewhere: [LIST] [*] Dockyard/ laborer apparel. Utilitarian cloth + tools for packing, hauling, and shipping cargo. Large crossover with terrestrial cultures. Uses gaff pole for snagging ropes and fish (also as a distanced weapon, ex. [url=https://i.imgur.com/bLEx3NY.jpg]dishonored[/url]). Bundles of workman's rope tied at hip? A flask/ waterskin for a portable drink? Set needs to be multipurpose. [item=balanced walking sticks] [item=tattered canvas scrap] [item=azure yuccarope] [*] Selkie apparel. Seal companions lounging around feet, larger seal pelt strung along back + neck. Coldwater style inspiration; thick furs and arctic bone harpoons in design. Hip belt holding throwing spears? (ex: [url=https://americanindian.si.edu/exhibitions/infinityofnations/images/patagonia/142274_1000.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://www.nma.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0010/339652/am47r.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://i.imgur.com/HcYIHVU.jpg]x[/url]) [item=spotted seal] [item=depin hide] [item=shark tooth spear] [*] Scrimshaw. All sorts- wearable bone charms, braided into necklaces, inlaid in whale-skin wrapped cuffs/ masks. Focus on melodic/ historical premise of whalesong; bundles/ strings of bone tablets inscribed with sea song? Go along with dolphin companion apparel (drawn above) for set appeal. [item=fractured tusk] [item=crown of bones] [item=leather arm wraps] [item=traveler's runestone] [*] Cormorant fisherman apparel. Bundled nets draped over the wings, flask-belts and water-skins, woven baskets, shoulder-balanced bamboo pole with perching cormorant companions. (ex: [url=https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/peter-yan-travel-photography-china-3.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/peter-yan-travel-photography-china-5.jpg]x[/url], [url=https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/peter-yan-travel-photography-china-4.jpg]x[/url]) [item=lakelight weaver] [item=waterskin] [item=sinew net] [item=bamboo sedge hat] [*] Fish-scale armor. Tightly-connected mail, made of overlapping rounded fish scales. Would work with some small schools of fish swimming around the dragon (like the 'warmwater wanderers' but... not so busy. More like the 'summer swelter' apparel, but with silvery blue fish). [item=ceremonial sash] [item=reflective fish scales] [item=sardines] [item=summer swelter] [*] More aquatic companion apparel. Basically, animal apparel placed near/ on the dragon, like the dog/ snake/ rodent sets. Could be varied for marine apparel, into 'large' & 'small' friend categories. Large friends: sharks, stingrays, big fish, crocodilians [item=grey catshark] [item=spotted stingray] [item=marsh stalker] [item=giant oarfish] [item=gladeveins needletooth] Small friends: starfish, jellyfish, crabs, mussels, sea urchins, cephalopods [item=starfish] [item=darktide jellyfish] [item=seashore digger] [item=cragside mussels] [item=pincushion urchin] [item=red octopus] [item=dumpling squid] [*] More biological body-mod type apparel. Different types/ styles of fins (tail, back, limb, flowy, etc.), like the 'thresher flatfins'. An extension of the 'deepsea bulb' apparel that runs down a dragon's back? [*] More weapon and tool apparel. Stinging anemone pauldrons / shallow-water throwing spears/ baskets of crab pots/ oystering tools/ fish scalers/ strings of glass fishing floats/ etc. [*] Fish hook earrings (for ears/head fins + wings?). [*] Sea-glass/ driftwood/ abalone/ mother-of-pearl/ etc. jewelry. [*] [*] [*] [/LIST] [size=2](btw, [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1885905#post_20570306][u]here's a link[/u][/url] to a [i]really short[/i] list of all water-related apparel released so far if you don't believe me. as you can see, most aren't even especially related to living underwater- lots are just blue recolors with some flavor text or a watery name. for shame!)[/size]

This would probably be more suited in the apparel suggestions thread but total support! I love the art and concept

Ohhhh these are [i]fantastic![/i] I'd love to see these implemented either basically as is, or whatever interpretations FR artists could come up with based on them. I'm not in water but I'd use [i]the heck[/i] out of these! I've got a Kelp Beds coli dragon I wanted to give fitting apparel a while back and was soooo disappointed by the lack of variety available. I'd also love to see more things like this (ie flight/element/activity related) in general made available [i]outside [/i]of festivals. Keeping festival apparel as the only ones that really use element aesthetics is awfully limiting and means there aren't really any good multi-piece sets with a cohesive feel. Edit: I'd love to see more pieces of net apparel, something similar to [item=seashell mantle] without the seashells, perhaps some that are bundled, for a grubbier more workman-like look. Especially if there was a part that draped over the wings. Though I really like the full of fish ones in your "fisherman's tools", and I love the seagulls!

SUPER SUPPORT.

As a fellow member of Water, I definitely agree. We definitely need more apparel based around underwater/beach living.

Also, I NEED that Beach Wizard set. NEED it. Same with the Fisherman's tools/seagull friends and the Harbor Guide Guise.

That looks great!

However, the only issue I have with it is that they would most likely have to make apparel for ALL the elements, as FR cannot have water-specific apparel without flooding the suggestions subtopic with requests for arcane-specific apparel, ice-specific apparel, etc.

Also, um, isn't festival apparel for the water fest already water-specific?

[quote name="Aquatic" date="2019-01-04 11:37:00" ] That looks great! However, the only issue I have with it is that they would most likely have to make apparel for ALL the elements, as FR cannot have water-specific apparel without flooding the suggestions subtopic with requests for arcane-specific apparel, ice-specific apparel, etc. Also, um, isn't festival apparel for the water fest already water-specific? [/quote] I was thinking of that to, but then I remembered that there are other territories that border Water. The Sharktooth set could easily be integrated for Plague clans because bones, that Harpoon set seems a bit Steampunk to me, especially since it's an actual Harpoon gun, so definitely Lightning. The fisherman tools set could literally be for any fisher dragon within the borders of Water or beyond. Same with the harbor guide guise, those lanterns could easily fit in with Shadow, Light, or Lightning. The Beach Wizard set is perfect those dwelling in Arcane. Plus, some apparel is already pretty water specific just by nature of the item in question. [item=Ruby Deepsea Bulb] like this for example. It is not a Water fest item, but it's still definitely a "water" item that can be integrated into any flight.

@Aquatic ......... lots of people want flight-specific apparel that [i]isn't[/i] festival apparel. that's, uh, the whole point of this suggestion lol. having more variety of apparel types available, representing the different types of environments and lifestyles in sornieth, would be great for letting all players feel like their clan is really involved in the world. these item options being available for more than one [i]single[/i] piece of elemental festival apparel a year isn't like...... too much to ask for lol what i'm saying here is that there should be more elementally-related, environmentally appropriate clothing available for [i]all[/i] the flights (that isn't just one apparel piece once a year). water flight, specifically, lacks non-festival clothing options suitable for life underwater- hence, this suggestion. the sketches here could still be used by dragons of all elements, of course. many clans have fishermen and mariner dragons of other elements! ^^ besides, there is non-festival elemental apparel [i]already[/i] available for other flights. for example, the arctic & woodland sets (which represent ice & nature flight, respectively). like these, water flight should have more relevant and environmentally-practical apparel options too! :> [item=winterwatcher's arctic coat] [item=winterwatcher's arctic bags] [item=ice pick] [item=druid's woodmask] [item=druid's woodbasket] [item=druid's woodtrail]