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TOPIC | Dragon Size Guide UPDATED 2022
[quote name="@AutumnFall123" date="2023-09-20 18:37:55" ]
Lmao how do any of them breed??? :') Are the giants just born super tiny then grow huge / do the small ones hatch teeny from huge eggs?
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afaik, there's no official lore here, so you can make up your own explanations!
@AutumnFall123 wrote on 2023-09-20 18:37:55:
Lmao how do any of them breed??? :') Are the giants just born super tiny then grow huge / do the small ones hatch teeny from huge eggs?
afaik, there's no official lore here, so you can make up your own explanations!
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[quote name="@Polareis" date="2021-07-19 20:05:07" ]
So about three years ago, Banhana made [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/2401118/1]this thread[/url] about the sizes of dragons. It's a good and helpful thread, but it's outdated now! I'm also using slightly different methodology. I'll tell you about my methodology in a minute, but first, let me display the results! These images are HUGE, by the way.
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[quote name="Polareis" date="2021-07-19 20:05:07" ]
[i]Rather than measuring the ratio of the dragon's length to its height, you need the ratio of its length to its display size.[/i]
Dragons all have different heights, and their full height takes up a different percentage of the sprite in each one. Therefore, it is more useful to measure them against a static metric: the pixel dimensions of the sprites. Once you know how many pixels a dragon measures from nose to tail tip, you can scale it accurately.
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Actually, @/Banhana did also measure the ratio of the dragon's length to its display size! See here:
[quote name="Banhana" date="2018-03-21 13:33:45" ]
Assuming that the lengths listed on dragon profiles are from snout to tail, I have been trying to figure out how big each breed is, measured on top of the head and on the withers (like horses heights are measured). After finding out how the sprites bodies are proprotioned I could also count how many percents the sprite images heights are of the dragons length. That allows me to rezise the sprites in scale, what makes visual in-scale comparison of the dragons possible.
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[quote name="Banhana" date="2018-03-21 13:33:59" ]
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[b]Guardians:[/b]
Height measured on top of the head: 30% of the body length
Height measured on the of withers: 20% of the body length
An average Guardian with 15 meters (~49'3'') length would have their head at 4,5M (~14'9'') and withers at 3M (~13'2'').
[b]Mirrors:[/b]
Height measured on top of the head: 20% of the body length
Height measured on the withers: 15% of the body length
An average Mirror with 6 metres (~19'8’’) length would have their head at 1.2M (~3'11’’) and withers at 0.9M (~2'11’’).
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[quote name="Banhana" date="2018-03-21 13:33:55" ]
[b]List of the sprites with their multipliers:[/b]
Fae male: 0.56
Mirror female: 0.5 / Mirror male: 0.41
Tundra female: 0.56 / Tundra male 0.56
Guardian female: 0.4
Spiral female: 0.2
Pc male: 0.52
Snapper female: 0.66
Ridgeback male: 0.53
Skydancer male: 0.38
Bogsneak male: 0.44 / Bogsneak female: 0.46
Nocturne male: 0.5
Imperial male: 0.38
Wildclaw female: 0.5
Coatl female: 0.4 / Coatl male: 0.48
I multiplied the dragons lenght with the breeds multiplier and resized the images pixels according to the value to two decimals. This way the picture will have scale of 1px=1cm.
[b]Examples:[/b]
Nocturne male, lenght 5M
5 * 0.5 = 2.5 = 250px
Tundra female, lenght 4M
4 * 0.56 = 2,25 = 225px
Imperial male, lenght 28M
28 * 0.38 = 10,64 = 1064px
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So, both threads are ultimately doing the same thing: finding the length of a pixel and resizing the dragon accordingly (by measuring the ratio of length to height, and then height to display size, to get the ratio of length to display size.)
There is one flaw with both though; dragons aren't two-dimensional, so a length measurement farther away would be larger if the dragon was viewed side-on. Most dragon poses are close to side-on however, so this wouldn't affect the measurements much.
Cool stuff though! I like dragon measurements. [emoji=coatl happy size=1]
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Actually, @/Banhana did also measure the ratio of the dragon's length to its display size! See here:
Guardians:
Height measured on top of the head: 30% of the body length
Height measured on the of withers: 20% of the body length
An average Guardian with 15 meters (~49'3'') length would have their head at 4,5M (~14'9'') and withers at 3M (~13'2'').
Mirrors:
Height measured on top of the head: 20% of the body length
Height measured on the withers: 15% of the body length
An average Mirror with 6 metres (~19'8’’) length would have their head at 1.2M (~3'11’’) and withers at 0.9M (~2'11’’).
So, both threads are ultimately doing the same thing: finding the length of a pixel and resizing the dragon accordingly (by measuring the ratio of length to height, and then height to display size, to get the ratio of length to display size.)
There is one flaw with both though; dragons aren't two-dimensional, so a length measurement farther away would be larger if the dragon was viewed side-on. Most dragon poses are close to side-on however, so this wouldn't affect the measurements much.
Cool stuff though! I like dragon measurements.
@Polareis wrote on 2021-07-19 20:05:07:
So about three years ago, Banhana made this thread about the sizes of dragons. It's a good and helpful thread, but it's outdated now! I'm also using slightly different methodology. I'll tell you about my methodology in a minute, but first, let me display the results! These images are HUGE, by the way.
Polareis wrote on 2021-07-19 20:05:07:
Rather than measuring the ratio of the dragon's length to its height, you need the ratio of its length to its display size.
Dragons all have different heights, and their full height takes up a different percentage of the sprite in each one. Therefore, it is more useful to measure them against a static metric: the pixel dimensions of the sprites. Once you know how many pixels a dragon measures from nose to tail tip, you can scale it accurately.
Dragons all have different heights, and their full height takes up a different percentage of the sprite in each one. Therefore, it is more useful to measure them against a static metric: the pixel dimensions of the sprites. Once you know how many pixels a dragon measures from nose to tail tip, you can scale it accurately.
Actually, @/Banhana did also measure the ratio of the dragon's length to its display size! See here:
Banhana wrote on 2018-03-21 13:33:45:
Assuming that the lengths listed on dragon profiles are from snout to tail, I have been trying to figure out how big each breed is, measured on top of the head and on the withers (like horses heights are measured). After finding out how the sprites bodies are proprotioned I could also count how many percents the sprite images heights are of the dragons length. That allows me to rezise the sprites in scale, what makes visual in-scale comparison of the dragons possible.
Banhana wrote on 2018-03-21 13:33:59:
Guardians:
Height measured on top of the head: 30% of the body length
Height measured on the of withers: 20% of the body length
An average Guardian with 15 meters (~49'3'') length would have their head at 4,5M (~14'9'') and withers at 3M (~13'2'').
Mirrors:
Height measured on top of the head: 20% of the body length
Height measured on the withers: 15% of the body length
An average Mirror with 6 metres (~19'8’’) length would have their head at 1.2M (~3'11’’) and withers at 0.9M (~2'11’’).
Banhana wrote on 2018-03-21 13:33:55:
List of the sprites with their multipliers:
Fae male: 0.56
Mirror female: 0.5 / Mirror male: 0.41
Tundra female: 0.56 / Tundra male 0.56
Guardian female: 0.4
Spiral female: 0.2
Pc male: 0.52
Snapper female: 0.66
Ridgeback male: 0.53
Skydancer male: 0.38
Bogsneak male: 0.44 / Bogsneak female: 0.46
Nocturne male: 0.5
Imperial male: 0.38
Wildclaw female: 0.5
Coatl female: 0.4 / Coatl male: 0.48
I multiplied the dragons lenght with the breeds multiplier and resized the images pixels according to the value to two decimals. This way the picture will have scale of 1px=1cm.
Examples:
Nocturne male, lenght 5M
5 * 0.5 = 2.5 = 250px
Tundra female, lenght 4M
4 * 0.56 = 2,25 = 225px
Imperial male, lenght 28M
28 * 0.38 = 10,64 = 1064px
Fae male: 0.56
Mirror female: 0.5 / Mirror male: 0.41
Tundra female: 0.56 / Tundra male 0.56
Guardian female: 0.4
Spiral female: 0.2
Pc male: 0.52
Snapper female: 0.66
Ridgeback male: 0.53
Skydancer male: 0.38
Bogsneak male: 0.44 / Bogsneak female: 0.46
Nocturne male: 0.5
Imperial male: 0.38
Wildclaw female: 0.5
Coatl female: 0.4 / Coatl male: 0.48
I multiplied the dragons lenght with the breeds multiplier and resized the images pixels according to the value to two decimals. This way the picture will have scale of 1px=1cm.
Examples:
Nocturne male, lenght 5M
5 * 0.5 = 2.5 = 250px
Tundra female, lenght 4M
4 * 0.56 = 2,25 = 225px
Imperial male, lenght 28M
28 * 0.38 = 10,64 = 1064px
So, both threads are ultimately doing the same thing: finding the length of a pixel and resizing the dragon accordingly (by measuring the ratio of length to height, and then height to display size, to get the ratio of length to display size.)
There is one flaw with both though; dragons aren't two-dimensional, so a length measurement farther away would be larger if the dragon was viewed side-on. Most dragon poses are close to side-on however, so this wouldn't affect the measurements much.
Cool stuff though! I like dragon measurements.
Gave this a try since I couldn't find one with aethers. Here's a full lineup with the 23 current species:
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889209580750524436/1188022724661100584/size_lineup_draft.png[/img]
Methods:
I used [url=http://serpwidgets.com/main/measure]the Snake Measurer[/url], but instead of scaling based on the image size, I used the height of the visible dragon & the ruler tool:
[center][img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889209580750524436/1188023588519940116/image.png[/img][/center]
I had to mix data pools since the census didn't have all the breeds. For any breeds that [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/1299062]the 2014 census[/url] didn't cover, I used [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/clan-profile/415633]Frederick[/url]'s [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gof2gsOLJPvKTNyMfSCa8-sLyjwXsPt-dlTCkXu7yOY/edit#gid=1039788362]averages[/url], calculated based on the known largest and smallest of the population.
I divide the species average length by the Snake Measurer's output. The resulting number in raw units let me size the dragon images together on a grid, where 1 grid square = 1 square unit.
For example, for the lady mirror dragon, the Snake Measurer gave me ~2.2 units (curved), and the average provided by the 2014 census is 5.86 m. 5.86 / 2.2 = ~2.66. I sized her so that the length I put the ruler along (here, from her claw to her wingtip) was about 2.66 arbitrary units.
[center][img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889209580750524436/1188027192882511882/image.png[/img][/center]
Obviously a little flawed because of the mixed data pool and approximate image transforms. Maybe we need to have another census :) (Resizing the entire image might be more precise after all...)
Gave this a try since I couldn't find one with aethers. Here's a full lineup with the 23 current species:
Methods:
I used the Snake Measurer, but instead of scaling based on the image size, I used the height of the visible dragon & the ruler tool:
I had to mix data pools since the census didn't have all the breeds. For any breeds that the 2014 census didn't cover, I used Frederick's averages, calculated based on the known largest and smallest of the population.
I divide the species average length by the Snake Measurer's output. The resulting number in raw units let me size the dragon images together on a grid, where 1 grid square = 1 square unit.
For example, for the lady mirror dragon, the Snake Measurer gave me ~2.2 units (curved), and the average provided by the 2014 census is 5.86 m. 5.86 / 2.2 = ~2.66. I sized her so that the length I put the ruler along (here, from her claw to her wingtip) was about 2.66 arbitrary units.
Obviously a little flawed because of the mixed data pool and approximate image transforms. Maybe we need to have another census :) (Resizing the entire image might be more precise after all...)
Methods:
I used the Snake Measurer, but instead of scaling based on the image size, I used the height of the visible dragon & the ruler tool:
I had to mix data pools since the census didn't have all the breeds. For any breeds that the 2014 census didn't cover, I used Frederick's averages, calculated based on the known largest and smallest of the population.
I divide the species average length by the Snake Measurer's output. The resulting number in raw units let me size the dragon images together on a grid, where 1 grid square = 1 square unit.
For example, for the lady mirror dragon, the Snake Measurer gave me ~2.2 units (curved), and the average provided by the 2014 census is 5.86 m. 5.86 / 2.2 = ~2.66. I sized her so that the length I put the ruler along (here, from her claw to her wingtip) was about 2.66 arbitrary units.
Obviously a little flawed because of the mixed data pool and approximate image transforms. Maybe we need to have another census :) (Resizing the entire image might be more precise after all...)
I didn't think the size differences were that extreme?! Most of my lair is faes and spirals so my poor imperials (which I did not realize are that big) are probably trying to not step on them! I thought Guardians would be the biggest! This is messing with my head.
I didn't think the size differences were that extreme?! Most of my lair is faes and spirals so my poor imperials (which I did not realize are that big) are probably trying to not step on them! I thought Guardians would be the biggest! This is messing with my head.
assuming i did this right... this would be accurate for two of my dragons(?), [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91166152]Zevlus[/url] & [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91846110]Ribbit[/url]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/DR8TCTa.png[/img]
[i]please correct me if i'm wrong!! also rip to the quality[/i]
[quote name="Fenny2" date="2022-05-26 18:35:29" ]
[b]The multipliers for dragons already on the first post are potentially outdated. For up to date multipliers look at the original post.[/b]
Now that Aberrations have come out I went ahead and used that snake measurer to figure out their multipliers, they are as follows. Permababy multipliers are in the process of being added.
Aberration F: 153
Aberration M: 111
Undertide F: 93
Undertide M: 95
Aether F: 139
Aether M: 146
Sandsurge F: 129
Sandsurge M: 123
Auraboa F: 91
Auraboa M: 98
Dusthide F: 172
Dusthide M: 172
Human(joke): 309
PB Aberration: 227
PB Aether: 212
PB Auraboa: 121
PB Banescale: 126
PB Bogsneak: 174
PB Coatl: 194
PB Dusthide: 193
PB Fae: 144
PB Gaoler: 134
PB Guardian: 164
PB Imperial: 140
PB Mirror: 229
PB Nocturne: 166
PB Obelisk: 188
PB Pearlcatcher: 139
PB Ridgeback: 165
PB Sandsurge: 196
PB Skydancer: 199
PB Snapper: 229
PB Spiral: 92
PB Tundra: 154
PB Undertide: 88
PB Veilspun: 167
PB Wildclaw: 206
For those who skipped past or didn't notice the explanation section of the original post, you take the length of the dragon, multiply it by its multiplier, and then change the size of the image to the resulting number. This can most easily be done in an art program, which should have an option to change the size of an image by inputting numbers.
Finally, have a size chart of all the hatchlings.
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/f65623c999a75915ccd6e13e0d136187/ac1c4c681088e375-ad/s2048x3072/43ad89a5810803fc350183aa8f570d7dbcc40b41.png[/img]
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/6a20ff087af8602b5fb743029ef740c0/ac1c4c681088e375-04/s2048x3072/823b784b362d44f0ff5f46ac13d70ee806cd3e9b.png[/img]
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Added Dusthides. I also forgot to mention that I was notified of my permababy images not working(thanks Discord), so I've moved them to a different site and they should be working now.
Fenny2 wrote on 2022-05-26 18:35:29:
The multipliers for dragons already on the first post are potentially outdated. For up to date multipliers look at the original post.
Now that Aberrations have come out I went ahead and used that snake measurer to figure out their multipliers, they are as follows. Permababy multipliers are in the process of being added.
Aberration F: 153
Aberration M: 111
Undertide F: 93
Undertide M: 95
Aether F: 139
Aether M: 146
Sandsurge F: 129
Sandsurge M: 123
Auraboa F: 91
Auraboa M: 98
Dusthide F: 172
Dusthide M: 172
Human(joke): 309
PB Aberration: 227
PB Aether: 212
PB Auraboa: 121
PB Banescale: 126
PB Bogsneak: 174
PB Coatl: 194
PB Dusthide: 193
PB Fae: 144
PB Gaoler: 134
PB Guardian: 164
PB Imperial: 140
PB Mirror: 229
PB Nocturne: 166
PB Obelisk: 188
PB Pearlcatcher: 139
PB Ridgeback: 165
PB Sandsurge: 196
PB Skydancer: 199
PB Snapper: 229
PB Spiral: 92
PB Tundra: 154
PB Undertide: 88
PB Veilspun: 167
PB Wildclaw: 206
For those who skipped past or didn't notice the explanation section of the original post, you take the length of the dragon, multiply it by its multiplier, and then change the size of the image to the resulting number. This can most easily be done in an art program, which should have an option to change the size of an image by inputting numbers.
Finally, have a size chart of all the hatchlings.
Now that Aberrations have come out I went ahead and used that snake measurer to figure out their multipliers, they are as follows. Permababy multipliers are in the process of being added.
Aberration F: 153
Aberration M: 111
Undertide F: 93
Undertide M: 95
Aether F: 139
Aether M: 146
Sandsurge F: 129
Sandsurge M: 123
Auraboa F: 91
Auraboa M: 98
Dusthide F: 172
Dusthide M: 172
Human(joke): 309
PB Aberration: 227
PB Aether: 212
PB Auraboa: 121
PB Banescale: 126
PB Bogsneak: 174
PB Coatl: 194
PB Dusthide: 193
PB Fae: 144
PB Gaoler: 134
PB Guardian: 164
PB Imperial: 140
PB Mirror: 229
PB Nocturne: 166
PB Obelisk: 188
PB Pearlcatcher: 139
PB Ridgeback: 165
PB Sandsurge: 196
PB Skydancer: 199
PB Snapper: 229
PB Spiral: 92
PB Tundra: 154
PB Undertide: 88
PB Veilspun: 167
PB Wildclaw: 206
For those who skipped past or didn't notice the explanation section of the original post, you take the length of the dragon, multiply it by its multiplier, and then change the size of the image to the resulting number. This can most easily be done in an art program, which should have an option to change the size of an image by inputting numbers.
Finally, have a size chart of all the hatchlings.
[quote name="wishbonewarren" date="2023-12-22 23:57:29" ]
Gave this a try since I couldn't find one with aethers. Here's a full lineup with the 23 current species:
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889209580750524436/1188022724661100584/size_lineup_draft.png[/img]
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@wishbonewarren the images are broken (probably bc discord link)!! Any chance you could reupload them? ^^;
wishbonewarren wrote on 2023-12-22 23:57:29:
Gave this a try since I couldn't find one with aethers. Here's a full lineup with the 23 current species:
@wishbonewarren the images are broken (probably bc discord link)!! Any chance you could reupload them? ^^;