Flight Rising Discussion

Well, if I were to accidentally breed gem I'd probably write some lore about gem helping another dragon having hatchlings. In my lore (I need to write it down somewhere but never get the chance to) dragons create eggs through fusing magic. It's like if you were to combine energy dbz style. Hence why they can't do it just anywhere, they could accidentally burn their couch down or something.
In the case of my progener, Irridescense, he discovered he was gay later in life. The hatchlings are barely relevant though, mostly just a bit of history.
It is also a very anti-dysphoric thing for me considering the sex of the dragon becomes irrelevant with this even if in the actual cannon it could be different. I mean, the deities did make another one with their powers so it fits??

... I already bred a trans male(f pose) Gaoler with another male Gaoler... oof

But for real, I don’t get why there isn’t a very expensive/very rare item for one-time same sex breedings. You can preview them in the Scrying workshop, so obviously it isn’t actually impossible.

I don’t have any actual gay couples in my lair right now, but I’m sure when I do them having hatchlings of their own won’t be particularly important. I breed everyone willy-nilly anyway, that’s not included in lore.

I have a note saying that breeding does not represent in lore occurrences. I simply breed whomever I want out of my non-G1 dragons and hope nobody thinks about it.

I breed many of my dragons, but it has no relation to my lore, just mone. I ignore the parents and children of my dragons, they're just nonexsistent to me (I bred my gae several times oop)

All my hatchlings (except those who get clearly contradictory lore) are canon, because in my lore dragons are thousands and thousands of years old. But I still breed everyone regardless of their preferences. And it's complicated so I won't go into it but suffice it to say, I don't think dragons view any of this the way humans do.

Basically I think you can do anything you want and bonus points for explaining it in the most non-human way you can.

I headcanon external reproduction, which helps with the "but they wouldn't be attracted to each other" problem.

Dragons who are in a bonded m/f relationship normally do have children exclusively with each other, but for everyone else, merely liking each other suffices for a nesting agreement.

I have this girl who's ace, she was only bred to make pretty babies, so, in lore, she doesn't have any kids [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/39486645][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/394867/39486645_350.png[/img][/url] This guy's gay, but he wanted to have children of his own, so he had a nest with a lesbian who also wanted to have children of her own, then they went on their merry ways, raising their children with their own partners [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/52816517][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/528166/52816517_350.png[/img][/url]

That's main reason why I don't breed most of my dragons xD All my breeding pairs are not part of clan's lore and I also have few m/f lore pairs, but almost every unbred dragon in my clan is lesbian/gay/chtonic deity without even concept of sexuality at all xD
I'm that kind of players who can't ignore offsprings, most of the time if I buy pretty dragon with kids - I try to breed out unbred copy of such dragon. I can handle offsprings only if it's old (7 and less digits) dragon since I can't and don't really want to buy unbred oldie, it's a little bit out of my budget.

[quote name="Birdarang" date="2021-02-12 05:48:25" ] But for real, I don’t get why there isn’t a very expensive/very rare item for one-time same sex breedings. You can preview them in the Scrying workshop, so obviously it isn’t actually impossible. [/quote] The thing is, previewing them in the scrying workshop is very different from implementing lineage coding on same-sex dragons; right now it's coded so that if the dragon is female, they appear one place in the lineage coding, if the dragon is male, they appear in another. Even just on the breeding dropdown screen, it's currently coded that the dragons that appear on the dropdown list appear by sex. Changing that would require a rewrite of the breeding/lineage system. The scrying workshop doesn't have to interact with any of that; it just takes colors and breed and genes, which is why you can do things like preview deity offspring and same-sex dragons that wouldn't work in the actual breeding system. To change that would in fact require some serious alterations, especially for a one-time item that would make things [i]temporarily[/i] different but wouldn't be permanent. I'm not a dev or a coding expert, and I can't guess at how easy or difficult those alterations would be: this is just a "there are actually coding restrictions that make that sort of item currently impossible unless major changes are made to the breeding system," statement, since it is pretty easy to conflate the scrying workshop with the breeding system but they're actually engaging with very different systems, as I understand it. The scrying workshop offspring preview is engaging with a much shallower mechanic: it doesn't do the five-generations check or worry about whether a dragon is male or female, etc. Anyway, for OP's question, I have used surrogates in lore, I disregard offspring lists as canon, and now that I have the space I have dedicated fodder breeding pairs and don't breed any of my permas unless for some reason I'm out of fodder pairs (it's only happened once or twice). I do have older opposite-sex perma couples who I have bred and even kept offspring from, but they don't have kids in canon because that timeline is too much to keep track of and makes my head spin. Also, weirdly, there are some dragons I'd be able to handle breeding, and then there are others who I've been asked to breed more than once and ended up refusing every time because I didn't want her to have an offspring list because it felt weird even though it wouldn't be canonical anyway. I mean, I have no idea what Roundabout's orientation is aside from "maybe accidentally dating his [male] best friend a bit," but sure, I can breed him with anybody I also feel comfy breeding! (Not that anyone would ask me to, because he's a fodder rescue.) Ditto his [not dating] friend Fissure who was his fodder breeding partner for a while; sure, don't really care. Viola and Sian? Sure, but only with each other even though nothing is canonical. Chrysanta? Her girlfriend could be male pose and I'd still not feel comfortable breeding them. Do I understand why I feel differently about any of those? Nope! [emoji=ridgeback laughing size=1] It can't be the presence of an already-existing offspring list alone, because there are dragons I own with an offspring list who I would not feel comfortable rebreeding. Oh! Also, adoption for same-sex couples in lore is great. I did want one of my same-sex couples to have a kid, so they did: nothing in their offspring list, though, because I bought the kid off the AH, so no need to worry about surrogates or how the offspring list interacts with canon. So in short: all my dragons with offspring lists, even the offspring I kept, none of that's canon. The time I wanted my dragons to have a kid I bought that kid off the AH even though I hatch a nest a day. [emoji=ridgeback laughing size=1]