Flight Rising Discussion

I spend 50 Vials without getting anything else than Uncommon. ..no count on how many i used in total but the rng is soo silly. I have gotten ONE multigaze and that's the rarest i have had. . I hope we get a shot on primal another way....

I've been aiming to get my progen [#2995504] Primal eyes, and so far I've used 67 Vials on them. I have another 85 in my inventory to use, but I've been hesitant to scatter. After 67, I'm feeling a little defeated and I'm not eager to go back to more disappointment. Especially after seeing this thread.

For reference, here's all the results of my scatters:

Uncommon Faceted Unusual Uncommon Uncommon Unusual Uncommon Unusual Unusual Uncommon Uncommon Unusual

Unusual Uncommon Rare Uncommon Uncommon Rare Rare Uncommon Uncommon Uncommon Uncommon Uncommon

Uncommon Unusual Uncommon Uncommon Uncommon Unusual Unusual Rare Unusual Uncommon Unusual Uncommon

Unusual Rare Uncommon Unusual Uncommon Unusual Rare Rare Rare Uncommon Rare Unusual

Unusual Uncommon Unusual Uncommon Rare Unusual Unusual Rare Unusual Unusual Unusual Uncommon

Unusual Uncommon Rare Uncommon Unusual Uncommon Faceted

The totals are:

Uncommon: 29 [~43.2%] Unusual: 24 [~35.8%] Rare: 12 [~17.9%] Faceted: 2 [~3%] Multi: 0 [0%] Primal: 0 [0%]

Which vaguely falls in line with the probabilities that people have been crunching, but the lower Uncommon rate for me just feels... weird. It all just feels a little weird.

I'll probably go and use the rest of my Vials during Brightshine? In which case I'll come back with an update post. My numbers might just feel funky because I haven't hit the hundreds yet.

259 eye scatters on one dragon to try and get primal but the best I got was faceted which I eventually settled with...

@Raytini02
@Taarnfalk
@LizzaBissa

Aye, in those 460 scatters I hit Facet 4 times and I don't think I got it at all in the last 200-250 or so. I wish I'd kept a more in-depth record.

But then again thinking of the wall of failures that'd be, maybe I don't.

Kind of a tangent but online games are actually better at doing random than offline... not because of the way they're written per se, but because humans are involved. Each time a random generation occurs, yeah, it's pulled from the seed. But who gets that call is essentially random. The probability of one person getting an actual predictable sequence is incredibly small, particularly on a populous site where calls are happening many many times per second.
Complete tangent, but yeah, the most likely thing is that the randomness is pretty darn good on FR and some people are just very unlucky - balancing out the people who get primal or multi inside 10 scrolls.

[quote name="Vendrus" date="2018-06-16 12:37:37" ] Kind of a tangent but online games are actually better at doing random than offline... not because of the way they're written per se, but because humans are involved. Each time a random generation occurs, yeah, it's pulled from the seed. But who gets that call is essentially random. The probability of one person getting an actual predictable sequence is incredibly small, particularly on a populous site where calls are happening many many times per second. Complete tangent, but yeah, the most likely thing is that the randomness is pretty darn good on FR and some people are just very unlucky - balancing out the people who get primal or multi inside 10 scrolls. [/quote] It's true, as long as the setup isn't such that possibilities are getting pushed out due to configuration issues. (Which really shouldn't happen, but mistakes do occur and shortcuts are often needed.) Since dropping so many scrolls on this one dragon, I figured I'd spend some on the rest of my lair. (Only 1x each, my insanity has some bounds. But dang it feels good to spend an item and actually have something [i]change[/i]!) And I've pulled one Multi and one Primal, just about exactly as expected by the normal distribution predicted by others. So if there is a glitch, it may well be dragon-specific, not user-specific. Which is good to know, at least.

@XNeox

Appreciate it, and glad you got what you were wanting!

And yeah, getting rare was nice to know that the wave of uncommon/unusual wasn't neverending, but getting rare into rare into rare felt... less rare.

I used around 60 scatters and never got anything higher than rare.

31 isn't too many, but honestly I do agree. There might be a bug. I'm definitely following this.

Update: we've had a post from one of the developers stating that neither dragon nor user info is used to calculate random eyes, hence they're calling it a case of bad luck.

I'll update the OP with the full response. Thank you all for your time and attention.