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I don't know if this is intentional, but I was just scrying some of my dragons randomly when I tried [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/16289980]Iris[/url] and noticed that it looks very bizarre on female Nocturnes. You can't see the face details unless you zoom in and it looks like it was cut off awkwardly [img]https://i.imgur.com/1VvJMBd.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=23&bodygene=87&breed=11&element=6&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=43&tertgene=0&winggene=1&wings=66&auth=34bae9db52db073c8860a82dcc70ad91a6f06a0d&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
I don't know if this is intentional, but I was just scrying some of my dragons randomly when I tried Iris and noticed that it looks very bizarre on female Nocturnes. You can't see the face details unless you zoom in and it looks like it was cut off awkwardly
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[quote name="Undel" date="2022-01-19 21:29:51" ] A second pass has been uploaded for Pharaoh. The pixel bleed and missing snapper eye should be addressed, and the black shadows are now separate from the color shadows, which should provide a touch more contrast. The black is still intended to be very dark. Sarcophagus still needs updating, so the bleeds and shadows will still be the same on them for now. [/quote] Not sure if this is because of the fix, but since only one is fixed atm I think this may still ring true. I think this may be because of monitors. My laptop is terrible for art. Everything is very dark and slightly desaturated. I had only been on my laptop and these genes might as well have been pure black. On my desktop today (with two monitors that vary slightly in quality/truth to colour) and these look absolutely stunning! Not disregarding anyone's feelings as a monitor issue of course. Just a perspective I wanted to throw out for people to consider.
Undel wrote on 2022-01-19 21:29:51:
A second pass has been uploaded for Pharaoh. The pixel bleed and missing snapper eye should be addressed, and the black shadows are now separate from the color shadows, which should provide a touch more contrast. The black is still intended to be very dark.

Sarcophagus still needs updating, so the bleeds and shadows will still be the same on them for now.
Not sure if this is because of the fix, but since only one is fixed atm I think this may still ring true.

I think this may be because of monitors. My laptop is terrible for art. Everything is very dark and slightly desaturated. I had only been on my laptop and these genes might as well have been pure black. On my desktop today (with two monitors that vary slightly in quality/truth to colour) and these look absolutely stunning!
Not disregarding anyone's feelings as a monitor issue of course. Just a perspective I wanted to throw out for people to consider.
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Some of the dragons with Sarcophagus that show two wings seem to have a different color for one of the wings? [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=3&bodygene=87&breed=9&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=21&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=3&auth=88b5c6194f25ec46f22f9f27d588dc2e94f26427&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Snapper F Ice Pharoah / Ice Sarcophagus [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=140&bodygene=87&breed=15&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=21&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=140&auth=439e1c3bcb876107e140fb97d2c218a7939a25e7&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Obelisk M Metals Pharoah / Metals Sarcophagus The back wings are significantly darker than the front ones. I assume this might not be an error but shading, but it seems super abrupt / mismatched to me.
Some of the dragons with Sarcophagus that show two wings seem to have a different color for one of the wings?

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Snapper F Ice Pharoah / Ice Sarcophagus


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Obelisk M Metals Pharoah / Metals Sarcophagus


The back wings are significantly darker than the front ones. I assume this might not be an error but shading, but it seems super abrupt / mismatched to me.
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[quote name="Noivurn" date="2022-01-20 17:23:45" ] Some of the dragons with Sarcophagus that show two wings seem to have a different color for one of the wings? [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=3&bodygene=87&breed=9&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=21&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=3&auth=88b5c6194f25ec46f22f9f27d588dc2e94f26427&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Snapper F Ice Pharoah / Ice Sarcophagus [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=140&bodygene=87&breed=15&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=21&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=140&auth=439e1c3bcb876107e140fb97d2c218a7939a25e7&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Obelisk M Metals Pharoah / Metals Sarcophagus The back wings are significantly darker than the front ones. I assume this might not be an error but shading, but it seems super abrupt / mismatched to me. [/quote] I think that's shadow layers. [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=156&bodygene=0&breed=9&element=11&eyetype=13&gender=1&tert=78&tertgene=0&winggene=22&wings=3&auth=f0b0edac52282ef04cfec61b45f4f4e2c9a0e673&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=156&bodygene=0&breed=15&element=11&eyetype=13&gender=0&tert=78&tertgene=0&winggene=22&wings=140&auth=dfe70beb0fb10c6d714b2d596eea093ef8520f54&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Noivurn wrote on 2022-01-20 17:23:45:
Some of the dragons with Sarcophagus that show two wings seem to have a different color for one of the wings?

dragon?age=1&body=3&bodygene=87&breed=9&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=21&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=3&auth=88b5c6194f25ec46f22f9f27d588dc2e94f26427&dummyext=prev.png

Snapper F Ice Pharoah / Ice Sarcophagus


dragon?age=1&body=140&bodygene=87&breed=15&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=21&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=140&auth=439e1c3bcb876107e140fb97d2c218a7939a25e7&dummyext=prev.png

Obelisk M Metals Pharoah / Metals Sarcophagus


The back wings are significantly darker than the front ones. I assume this might not be an error but shading, but it seems super abrupt / mismatched to me.
I think that's shadow layers.

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A bit disappointed that many of the colors most known for their accent colors (Radioactive, Lapis, and Phthalo for example) are only the singular base color, instead of having their accents (usually Turquoise, Yellow, and Cream respectively) around the edges of the shapes. [b]Radioactive and Lapis demonstrated here:[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=130&bodygene=87&breed=10&element=4&eyetype=8&gender=1&tert=154&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=148&auth=0520c788dd84b56bef9a985a3b486d9e07556d8e&dummyext=prev.png[/img] I assume this is in error, because other dual-hued colors such as Metals, Grapefruit, Violet, Cerise, and Copper, DO have these accents. [b]Violet and Copper demonstrated here:[/b] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=17&bodygene=87&breed=10&element=4&eyetype=8&gender=1&tert=154&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=94&auth=26f289867afc8b429c37880a9af48fd478bf52ad&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Edit: I read the same concern and its response on the first page. I'm surprised that Tiger's paws were picked instead of maybe Jaguar's, which does bring Phthalo/Lapis/Metals/Radio's accent colors into account
A bit disappointed that many of the colors most known for their accent colors (Radioactive, Lapis, and Phthalo for example) are only the singular base color, instead of having their accents (usually Turquoise, Yellow, and Cream respectively) around the edges of the shapes.
Radioactive and Lapis demonstrated here:
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I assume this is in error, because other dual-hued colors such as Metals, Grapefruit, Violet, Cerise, and Copper, DO have these accents.
Violet and Copper demonstrated here:
dragon?age=1&body=17&bodygene=87&breed=10&element=4&eyetype=8&gender=1&tert=154&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=94&auth=26f289867afc8b429c37880a9af48fd478bf52ad&dummyext=prev.png


Edit: I read the same concern and its response on the first page. I'm surprised that Tiger's paws were picked instead of maybe Jaguar's, which does bring Phthalo/Lapis/Metals/Radio's accent colors into account
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[quote name="GallantGoat" date="2022-01-20 08:48:43" ] [quote name="Undel" date="2022-01-19 21:29:51" ] A second pass has been uploaded for Pharaoh. The pixel bleed and missing snapper eye should be addressed, and the black shadows are now separate from the color shadows, which should provide a touch more contrast. The black is still intended to be very dark. Sarcophagus still needs updating, so the bleeds and shadows will still be the same on them for now. [/quote] Not sure if this is because of the fix, but since only one is fixed atm I think this may still ring true. I think this may be because of monitors. My laptop is terrible for art. Everything is very dark and slightly desaturated. I had only been on my laptop and these genes might as well have been pure black. On my desktop today (with two monitors that vary slightly in quality/truth to colour) and these look absolutely stunning! Not disregarding anyone's feelings as a monitor issue of course. Just a perspective I wanted to throw out for people to consider. [/quote] I would like to second this. Monitors made for graphic design are more expensive for the reason that they have better hardware for displaying a higher range of black values/ darker black values, and some screens are just not appropriately calibrated or bright enough to make the distinctions easy to see. But, I can see the line art fine if I zoom on on my iPad. Also, having all these dragon images on pure white backgrounds will make details harder to distinguish due to relative color. Since backgrounds vary across the site, I imagine this was unavoidable. I personally haven’t found any errors; hope this helps anyone confused about the colors, though.
GallantGoat wrote on 2022-01-20 08:48:43:
Undel wrote on 2022-01-19 21:29:51:
A second pass has been uploaded for Pharaoh. The pixel bleed and missing snapper eye should be addressed, and the black shadows are now separate from the color shadows, which should provide a touch more contrast. The black is still intended to be very dark.

Sarcophagus still needs updating, so the bleeds and shadows will still be the same on them for now.
Not sure if this is because of the fix, but since only one is fixed atm I think this may still ring true.

I think this may be because of monitors. My laptop is terrible for art. Everything is very dark and slightly desaturated. I had only been on my laptop and these genes might as well have been pure black. On my desktop today (with two monitors that vary slightly in quality/truth to colour) and these look absolutely stunning!
Not disregarding anyone's feelings as a monitor issue of course. Just a perspective I wanted to throw out for people to consider.

I would like to second this. Monitors made for graphic design are more expensive for the reason that they have better hardware for displaying a higher range of black values/ darker black values, and some screens are just not appropriately calibrated or bright enough to make the distinctions easy to see. But, I can see the line art fine if I zoom on on my iPad.

Also, having all these dragon images on pure white backgrounds will make details harder to distinguish due to relative color. Since backgrounds vary across the site, I imagine this was unavoidable.

I personally haven’t found any errors; hope this helps anyone confused about the colors, though.

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Ice pharaoh/sarcophagus shows up as white in some places, specifically the unshaded bits, does this look weird to anyone else? [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=3&bodygene=87&breed=6&element=4&eyetype=2&gender=0&tert=108&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=3&auth=2986813e5c78e0f84fae194ee60ffc9b963accd1&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=3&bodygene=87&breed=6&element=4&eyetype=2&gender=1&tert=108&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=3&auth=14e3885ae90464dbceec044ca00455a2530f19a9&dummyext=prev.png[/img] (also for m-pose tundras, are the shoulder patterns supposed to be more fur textured like the f-pose ones? They've got a little bit of fur texture but not much and only in that one spot)
Ice pharaoh/sarcophagus shows up as white in some places, specifically the unshaded bits, does this look weird to anyone else?
dragon?age=1&body=3&bodygene=87&breed=6&element=4&eyetype=2&gender=0&tert=108&tertgene=0&winggene=87&wings=3&auth=2986813e5c78e0f84fae194ee60ffc9b963accd1&dummyext=prev.png
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(also for m-pose tundras, are the shoulder patterns supposed to be more fur textured like the f-pose ones? They've got a little bit of fur texture but not much and only in that one spot)
Fixes for all of the issues that we noted (pixel bleed, shadows not darkening the base color enough, an incredibly slight lightening of the base black) are all in. I'm locking this topic for now.
Fixes for all of the issues that we noted (pixel bleed, shadows not darkening the base color enough, an incredibly slight lightening of the base black) are all in. I'm locking this topic for now.
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