Flight Rising Discussion

That sounds terrible @RainyRose. :/

So, it seems to me like everyone wants to give you the polite watered-down version. A more detailed play-by-play went something like this:

1. The staff release the update as it is.
2. Users are generally excited, but baffled and upset by the short time limit for grinding the perma-retiring vials.
3. A few users notice the changes to common eyes and are now miffed about the staff not addressing this change at all, when the last visual change to existing dragons was warned months in advance.
4. The longer people grind/play/refresh their dragons, the more the general populous starts to critique the update for various reasons. Most politely and in sheer confusion, but some did get too heated. It's still very mild.
5. Some users who don't mind the update find people voicing their complaints unreasonable and start insulting everyone who is unhappy, calling people with phobias "whiny crybabies", among other things. A few people stand up to them and this causes the arguments which caused the first lock. The staff was silent until the first lock.
6. The staff addresses some of the complaints after the lock. The explanation for the common eye changes is given, and they emphasize that they won't tolerate vitriol, but they stand their ground on perma-retiring vials and warn everyone of a perma-lock.
7. Surprise, people are still unhappy. Some even more so now with their response. More of the same arguments occur, so the thread is, unsurprisingly, perma-locked.

EDIT: I'm not trying to insinuate anyone else is bad for giving you a shorthand explanation, but it is far from the full picture. Users on both ends of the argument and even the staff with their radio silence up until they put the thread on time-out all contributed to how bad it got, directly or indirectly. Painting it as "People who didn't like eyes got upset" is just misleading.

[quote name="RainyRose" date="2018-06-11 05:55:08" ] I just finished reading through the news thread, and noticed it was locked, not once, but twice. I feel bad for the staff and I am thoroughly embarrassed about most players behaviors and attitudes towards each other. Absolutely awful and inexcusable :/ [/quote] Geez, peeps got the thread locked [i]twice[/i]?! I know people were upset about some stuff relating to the eyes, but that's just... ridiculously over-the-top and awful. Now I feel [i]really[/i] bad for the staff D:

[quote name="Jihun" date="2018-06-11 06:35:27" ] So, it seems to me like everyone wants to give you the polite watered-down version. A more detailed play-by-play went something like this: The staff release the update as it is. Users are generally excited, but baffled and upset by the short time limit for grinding the perma-retiring vials. A few users notice the changes to common eyes and are now miffed about the staff not addressing this change at all, when the last visual change to existing dragons was warned months in advance. The longer people grind/play/refresh their dragons, the more the general populous starts to critique the update for various reasons. Most politely and in sheer confusion, but some did get too heated. It's still very mild. Some users who don't mind the update find people voicing their complaints unreasonable and start insulting everyone who is unhappy, calling people with phobias "whiny crybabies", among other things. A few people stand up to them and this causes the arguments which caused the first lock. The staff was silent until the first lock. The staff addresses some of the complaints after the lock. The explanation for the common eye changes is given, and they emphasize that they won't tolerate vitriol, but they stand their ground on perma-retiring vials and warn everyone of a perma-lock. Surprise, people are still unhappy. Some even more so now with their response. More of the same arguments occur, so the thread is, unsurprisingly, perma-locked. EDIT: I'm not trying to insinuate anyone else is bad for giving you a shorthand explanation, but it is far from the full picture. Users on both ends of the argument and even the staff with their radio silence up until they put the thread on time-out all contributed to how bad it got, directly or indirectly. Painting it as "People who didn't like eyes got upset" is just misleading. [/quote] This is an amazing summary of events as I saw them. There was also a bout of open letters, but that was swiftly silenced and covered up, and then suggested that they be sent through contact us, by persons who apparently misunderstand the concept of an open letter as it pertains to constructive discussion.

[quote name="LucidDreams" date="2018-06-11 07:25:51" ] If the staff had said in the update that the rarer eyes only have a 1% or whatever chance of occurring I don't think there would have been as much drama. People treated the rarer eyes as something to aim for when I think they're supposed to be things that are very rare and exciting to get. Like a triple gen one or something...you wouldn't hatch eggs thinking you'd be likely to get one, it's just great when it happens. I think some people were being a little ungrateful to be honest, when I first saw the update I misread it and thought that the vials were just available to buy for gems for a limited time. I was pretty happy when I realised we could actually grind for them. And they could have just not bothered to release the vials at all and had the new eyes only be available to get on newly hatched dragons. [/quote] ^^^^^ also I wouldn't go in the suggestion forums for a while, it's still steaming hot in there (the deities know I went in there a couple or more times in the past days and got myself rolled in salt and fire) players on both sides had good arguments, but some were really rude about it, in some threads it was impossible to have a civil converstion, things are starting to settle down now tough

The stuff about the open letters is pretty frustrating because those threads were mostly polite discussion. I'm almost sure that it got worse because they deleted it and users got VERY impatient that they were getting silenced instead of getting any good (and not "nah we know better") responses.

Not that this justifies harassment and insults. But most threads only had a tiny bit of arguing, sometimes more but usually less, before that.

It was locked twice because of other players resorting to name-calling, abuse, etc. towards other players and the staff. I'm waiting for it to die down at this point.