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TOPIC | Dragon Size Guide UPDATED 2022
[center][size=5][b]UPDATE: UNDERTIDES AND ABERRATIONS ADDED[/b][/size][/center] Also shoutout to @Fenny2 for updating this thread faster than me and also doing [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/3038944/3#post_51356078]all the baby sizes[/url]: [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/926151406988169217/1044703108447604746/babies.png[/img] So about three years ago, Banhana made [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/2401118/1]this thread[/url] about the sizes of dragons. It's a good and helpful thread, but it's outdated now! I'm also using slightly different methodology. I'll tell you about my methodology in a minute, but first, let me display the results! These images are HUGE, by the way. [b]Ancient Breeds:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/17bcHn6/ancient-5.png[/img] [b]Plentiful Breeds:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/w4NVCkZ/plentiful.png[/img] [b]Common Breeds:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/VjqLLwL/common.png[/img] [b]Uncommon Breeds:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/Yhyqz37/uncommon.png[/img] [b]Limited and Rare Breeds:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/SB1zCps/limited-rare.png[/img] [b]Male Dragons:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/020L8dN/male.png[/img] [b]Female Dragons:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/PYy0YG6/female.png[/img] [center]------------[/center] [b]Methods[/b] In the old thread, LarkspurDragon had the fantastic idea of using [url=http://serpwidgets.com/main/measure]Snake Measurer[/url] to figure out each sprites length relative to its height. That's perfect for drawing dragons together. However, it doesn't actually give you an accurate idea of how to scale dragons for comparison graphics. [i]Rather than measuring the ratio of the dragon's length to its height, you need the ratio of its length to its display size.[/i] Dragons all have different heights, and their full height takes up a different percentage of the sprite in each one. Therefore, it is more useful to measure them against a static metric: the pixel dimensions of the sprites. Once you know how many pixels a dragon measures from nose to tail tip, you can scale it accurately. [b]The Numbers[/b] I'm not going to clutter this thread with all of my snake measurer screencaps, but if you're interested, you can [url=https://ibb.co/album/GnfN8D]find them here[/url]. Using the widget, I calculated the number of pixels from each sprite's nose to tail tip. I used the curved measurement, not the angular one. I then divided 1000 by that number to get multipliers. This is a completely arbitrary choice, based on what resolution looks best to me personally. To get the dragon's new sprite size, I simply multiplied the length by the multiplier and re-sized the image to that number. This should work for any dragon. You can make cute little size charts of your mated pairs, like so: [center][img]https://i.ibb.co/GQs6gvk/elster-morning.png[/img] [img]https://i.ibb.co/zhgGc4n/cydonia-owlstrike.png[/img][/center] The multipliers, in alphabetical order, are as follows: [LIST] [*]aberration F: 130 [*]aberration M: 112 [*]banescale F: 164 [*]banescale M: 131 [*]bogsneak F: 128 [*]bogsneak M: 125 [*]coatl F: 136 [*]coatl M: 147 [*]fae F: 177 [*]fae M: 165 [*]gaoler F: 134 [*]gaoler M: 147 [*]guardian F: 115 [*]guardian M: 129 [*]imperial F: 84 [*]imperial M: 114 [*]mirror F: 152 [*]mirror M: 156 [*]nocturne F: 145 [*]nocturne M: 155 [*]obelisk F: 124 [*]obelisk M: 122 [*]pearlcatcher F: 146 [*]pearlcatcher M: 148 [*]ridgeback F: 174 [*]ridgeback M: 155 [*]skydancer F: 111 [*]skydancer M: 115 [*]snapper F: 199 [*]snapper M: 242 [*]spiral F: 61 [*]spiral M: 55 [*]tundra F: 157 [*]tundra M: 156 [*]undertide F: 87 [*]undertide M: 89 [*]veilspun F: 118 [*]veilspun M: 103 [*]wildclaw F: 142 [*]wildclaw M: 161 [/LIST] The images at the top of the thread are calculated using Tanagerie's [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/1299062]Dragon Census[/url] from 2014 for all breeds that existed at the time. For all new breeds, I cobbled together info by picking 10 mature dragons at random from that species/sex and averaging them. [s]If you want to see more accurate, newer sizing information, go fill out NoxBox's newer [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/3010053/1]Dragon Census[/url], which is still ongoing as of this post![/s] I think that's everything! While I have done my best to get the most accurate numbers and graphics possible, I am only human. Please feel free to let me know if you believe I need to correct something.
UPDATE: UNDERTIDES AND ABERRATIONS ADDED

Also shoutout to @Fenny2 for updating this thread faster than me and also doing all the baby sizes:

babies.png

So about three years ago, Banhana made this thread about the sizes of dragons. It's a good and helpful thread, but it's outdated now! I'm also using slightly different methodology. I'll tell you about my methodology in a minute, but first, let me display the results! These images are HUGE, by the way.

Ancient Breeds:
ancient-5.png

Plentiful Breeds:
plentiful.png

Common Breeds:
common.png

Uncommon Breeds:
uncommon.png

Limited and Rare Breeds:
limited-rare.png

Male Dragons:
male.png

Female Dragons:
female.png


Methods

In the old thread, LarkspurDragon had the fantastic idea of using Snake Measurer to figure out each sprites length relative to its height. That's perfect for drawing dragons together. However, it doesn't actually give you an accurate idea of how to scale dragons for comparison graphics.

Rather than measuring the ratio of the dragon's length to its height, you need the ratio of its length to its display size.

Dragons all have different heights, and their full height takes up a different percentage of the sprite in each one. Therefore, it is more useful to measure them against a static metric: the pixel dimensions of the sprites. Once you know how many pixels a dragon measures from nose to tail tip, you can scale it accurately.

The Numbers

I'm not going to clutter this thread with all of my snake measurer screencaps, but if you're interested, you can find them here. Using the widget, I calculated the number of pixels from each sprite's nose to tail tip. I used the curved measurement, not the angular one. I then divided 1000 by that number to get multipliers. This is a completely arbitrary choice, based on what resolution looks best to me personally.

To get the dragon's new sprite size, I simply multiplied the length by the multiplier and re-sized the image to that number. This should work for any dragon. You can make cute little size charts of your mated pairs, like so:
elster-morning.png

cydonia-owlstrike.png

The multipliers, in alphabetical order, are as follows:
  • aberration F: 130
  • aberration M: 112
  • banescale F: 164
  • banescale M: 131
  • bogsneak F: 128
  • bogsneak M: 125
  • coatl F: 136
  • coatl M: 147
  • fae F: 177
  • fae M: 165
  • gaoler F: 134
  • gaoler M: 147
  • guardian F: 115
  • guardian M: 129
  • imperial F: 84
  • imperial M: 114
  • mirror F: 152
  • mirror M: 156
  • nocturne F: 145
  • nocturne M: 155
  • obelisk F: 124
  • obelisk M: 122
  • pearlcatcher F: 146
  • pearlcatcher M: 148
  • ridgeback F: 174
  • ridgeback M: 155
  • skydancer F: 111
  • skydancer M: 115
  • snapper F: 199
  • snapper M: 242
  • spiral F: 61
  • spiral M: 55
  • tundra F: 157
  • tundra M: 156
  • undertide F: 87
  • undertide M: 89
  • veilspun F: 118
  • veilspun M: 103
  • wildclaw F: 142
  • wildclaw M: 161

The images at the top of the thread are calculated using Tanagerie's Dragon Census from 2014 for all breeds that existed at the time. For all new breeds, I cobbled together info by picking 10 mature dragons at random from that species/sex and averaging them. If you want to see more accurate, newer sizing information, go fill out NoxBox's newer Dragon Census, which is still ongoing as of this post!

I think that's everything! While I have done my best to get the most accurate numbers and graphics possible, I am only human. Please feel free to let me know if you believe I need to correct something.
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@Polareis some of the images broke! are you planning on fixing them?
@Polareis some of the images broke! are you planning on fixing them?
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[quote name="closedcaptioning" date="2022-03-12 09:39:23" ] some of the images broke! are you planning on fixing them? [/quote] oh, i didn't realize! they should be fixed now~
closedcaptioning wrote on 2022-03-12 09:39:23:
some of the images broke! are you planning on fixing them?

oh, i didn't realize! they should be fixed now~
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Dang, Skydancers are smaller than what I imagined them to be.

I know that their size is small-to-medium but I always had a hard time picturing them THAT small.
Dang, Skydancers are smaller than what I imagined them to be.

I know that their size is small-to-medium but I always had a hard time picturing them THAT small.
[quote name="Skylevex" date="2022-03-12 10:39:24" ] Dang, Skydancers are smaller than what I imagined them to be. I know that their size is small-to-medium but I always had a hard time picturing them THAT small. [/quote] I was thinking the same thing. I also thought that Coatls were smaller.
Skylevex wrote on 2022-03-12 10:39:24:
Dang, Skydancers are smaller than what I imagined them to be.

I know that their size is small-to-medium but I always had a hard time picturing them THAT small.
I was thinking the same thing. I also thought that Coatls were smaller.
[quote name="Skylevex" date="2022-03-12 10:39:24" ] Dang, Skydancers are smaller than what I imagined them to be. I know that their size is small-to-medium but I always had a hard time picturing them THAT small. [/quote] I was thinking the same thing. I also thought that Coatls were smaller.
Skylevex wrote on 2022-03-12 10:39:24:
Dang, Skydancers are smaller than what I imagined them to be.

I know that their size is small-to-medium but I always had a hard time picturing them THAT small.
I was thinking the same thing. I also thought that Coatls were smaller.
Veilspuns be so teeny tiny!
Veilspuns be so teeny tiny!
Thanks for this guide! Always appreciate when these get updated.
Thanks for this guide! Always appreciate when these get updated.
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Amazing guide! Thank you so much for the effort you put into it, OP!
Amazing guide! Thank you so much for the effort you put into it, OP!
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I like how almost all the classes have one mega huge breed and then one tiny, super small breed. All save for the uncommon and limited, they need an extra small dragon breed.
I like how almost all the classes have one mega huge breed and then one tiny, super small breed. All save for the uncommon and limited, they need an extra small dragon breed.
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