Flight Rising Discussion

someone said that most of the people thanking people for buying fodder are probably new, and i'd just like to put out there that it was true-- i did that when i was new! i thought i was being nice! i was literally just saying "thanks for buying x!", no implication of expectations about what they were bought for included. (i didnt even care in some cases that they were getting exalted-- i just wanted them Out) and then it turned out i was being Extremely Rude And Annoying Without Knowing which is one of my worst nightmares so now i never leave anyone comments on anything even if the dragon was listed above fodder price and is clearly not going to be exalted. which does make me happy. but i'm scared now.

i understand why people don't like it but a) assuming it's intentionally guilt-tripping is a bad faith reading b) it's often phrased in a way that sounds really aggressive and like they're mad at me, personally, for something i haven't even done

I have the 'don't use for forum games' description in my fodder and projects tabs. People picking fodder over my permas hurts my feelings haha. I also have an 'open for offers', mostly because it's always nice when someone gets yet-another-project-I'm-never-going-to-finish off my hands.

I always check if people have clear guidelines for sending messages or interacting in other ways. I ask a lot after gen 1 project dragons, though I never ask after dragons that are clearly permas. I think the most important part is to just be polite and to move on when it's a no. Only one person was ever mad at me for asking.

I've had plenty of questions after fodder and projects as well, but I've never been harassed. I think dom participants, huge lairs and valuable gen one/other dragons lairs are suffering more from this.

Honestly, if people have overly rude or aggressive Q&A's I sometimes block them, just because the idea of accidentally interacting with them stresses me out.


Edit: I feel like my comment made people with disclaimers and guidelines feel bad, but that wasn't my intention at all! I actually really like reading player's abouts and q&a's and I always try to interact with them on their terms. LittleParade's post is along the lines of what I meant with rude/aggressive faqs. These are often in lairs that do get harassed, so it's not like I don't understand. I just have an interactive playstyle and they often don't. I think being able to toggle off messages for everyone or anyone not on your friendliest would be a huge upgrade to the interactive part of this game for this reason.

I've seen quite a few FAQ's over the years, a lot of which you can tell were written in exhaustion and annoyance. They're usually attached to high value dragons or dragons that have KS fams attached to them or just older accounts in general that may have something of value attached to them.

Their FAQ is usually like
"Q: can I buy X from you?
A: no, do not ask or you will be blocked."
"Q: can we be friends?
A: no."

I've even seen some written like
"Q: can I-
A: no, do not DM me, do not interact with me in any capacity. I will not answer, I will block you, etc"

Like I know there are some players that go through the whole rigamarole of being asked about something every day, they're tired of it, but there are definitely some that come off pretty rude. This game is very social, unfortunately for them, and I think they'd rather just play an offline version of the game at that point lol if it's the same person asking every day and not taking no for an answer, that is absolutely justified, but I personally can't be rude or exhausted to somebody who I've never spoken to before just because I may get a lot of inquiries from other people.


Also I do still thank for dragon purchases but ofc I avoid those who don't want the thanks. If a dragon sold for more than fodder price I usually thank, because I'm thankful to have more money lmao

I personally have an exalting lair but I have my tabs named based on lore location rather than purpose, meaning for someone who doesn't read my lore it can be hard to identify what my fodder tab is at first glance.

For the forga themselves I would rather people select dragons that aren't fodder, hence the reason behind the warning.

I only exalt my self-hatches (one of the reasons being that I'm scared of being harassed or anything) and name them all Bagelgoose (as I don't care how my dragon's offspring lists look anyways). I put in the fodder tab (which is also the new arrivals tab but if they aren't a bagelgoose they won't get exalted) that anyone is free to ask if they're interested in buying a fodder dragon, but I haven't been inquired about it yet. The only time I've been inquired about a dragon was for a dragon in my hibden that I didn't mind getting rid of, and selling it helped out really well with one of my first projects.
I put whether or not a dragon can be picked for a forum game in some tabs so that a random ungened dragon of mine doesn't get picked over a finished and loved one. It hasn't happened to me yet, but I wanna be safe.
I don't mind profile comments myself, but I only comment on other's if it's a friend of mine (that I talk to and know irl) or for frontpage comments. I only thank others for buying my dragons if it's 101% certain they won't get exalted or anything.

I have a "Please dont ask to buy fodder" note on my profile as well as in the description of my fodder tab in my hibden. It's not meant to sound rude or anything. I used to sell dragons back at the price I bought them for if someone asked about them. The reason I don't anymore is because I don't want to have to deal with hibden cooldowns and people deciding they no longer want the dragon. That, and I hate dealing with the crossroads on mobile, so I'd often wait until I was on computer which would sometimes be hours. I don't want people thinking I'm ignoring them.

I very rarely receive any inquiries on dragons, so i personally never felt real need to have disclaimers or anything. On rare occasion someone inquires about my permas, i typically just ignore the DM completely (and while i haven't experienced it personally, if they did start spamming my DMs i would probably just block em)

I also don't think i've ever been thanked for buying a dragon i didn't already decide to perma... there are times i have been thanked for selling fodder(dragons or items) though, which was fun



I do wonder how useful many of these disclaimers end up actually being though... there is good chance some people doing things like these never actually read the person's front page disclaimers or the dragon's bio, and you don't really have means to make sure they have to
I mean people barely read dragon bios/other dragon info as is, if several 'valuable dragons (low digit ids/g1s) exalted as fodder just because they were fodder priced' instances are anything to go by

honestly i get messages and requests so rarely now that i put those similar things in my bio. it makes playing a lot smoother. i do occasionally get requests to buy my fodder but i have in the tab that is okay. (tho somoene clearly newer did ask me to breed one of my glitched dragons not knowing they were glitched)

like someone above said, a lot of the messages about stuff come from newer players who think they are doing someone nice. and don't realise that for someone who has been playing regularly for quite a while, and for who exalts a lot of dragons, it unfortunately doesn't mean the same thing.

for me personally getting unsolicited messages is extremely stressful and panic inducing. so having it in my bio, even if it doesn't read the nicest, really has cut down on it.

the one that was actually the most helpful for me was saying not to tell me about front page dragons. the amount of posts i'd get telling me one of my fodder dragons was on the front page was happening with decent regularity, at least every other month or so. also all of them have the same name so which of the 50+ fodder dragons do you mean? i mean okay it's not terribly often. but when it does happen it just adds a layer of stress to gameplay that i don't want to have to deal with.

everyone's got different play styles. and different communication styles and needs. and i'd much rather be up front about mine than leave it up for questioning. as someone with anxiety about messaging others, i love all the detail. i don't mind if it seems rude or negative because i like knowing exactly how to interact with others, or if i even should.

*shrugs*

[quote name="CeriothOfCinders" date="2024-12-28 05:53:48" ] [quote name="yiq" date="2024-12-27 23:09:15" ] I hatch gen1s so I've gotten inquires on dragons I clearly already had plans for since they had scries in their bio, which I don't like. I usually end up keeping dragons I hatch so it's something I make sure to add to pages. [/quote] Not to be a devil's advocate, but I feel like "not for sale" messages or putting the dragons in project tabs is a clearer indication than just scries in bios, since people -do- sell a lot of g1s that have scries in their bios, myself included! Though tbh I personally wouldnt DM people unless I saw the dragon in a clear fodder or sale tab. [/quote] same here! I love scrying, and a bunch of my fodder end up with scries in their bios even though I'm not intending to keep or gene them. I actually put in my fodder tab description that "scries don't necessarily mean I'm keeping them, it's fine to ask" because I don't want to put off an interested buyer when the dragon does have potential. [quote name="@moondragon83" date="2024-12-28 06:37:25" ] someone said that most of the people thanking people for buying fodder are probably new, and i'd just like to put out there that it was true-- i did that when i was new! i thought i was being nice! i was literally just saying "thanks for buying x!", no implication of expectations about what they were bought for included. (i didnt even care in some cases that they were getting exalted-- i just wanted them Out) and then it turned out i was being Extremely Rude And Annoying Without Knowing which is one of my worst nightmares so now i never leave anyone comments on anything even if the dragon was listed above fodder price and is clearly not going to be exalted. which does make me happy. but i'm scared now. i understand why people don't like it but a) assuming it's intentionally guilt-tripping is a bad faith reading b) it's often phrased in a way that sounds really aggressive and like they're mad at me, personally, for something i haven't even done [/quote] personally, I don't think it's rude/annoying/guilt-tripping! I tend to assume good faith. I just feel bad for the person who may be thinking "yay someone liked my dragon and is giving it a home" when that's not at all the case. when I was a new player, I bought a cheap dragon (for keeps) and the seller thanked me for buying their dragon. it sticks out in my memory because I was like "wow! people here are really nice!" so that's the other side of the coin. I still have that dragon, she's never left the front page of my lair :3

@xanswerxthatx, I just wanted to say your disclaimers don't come off as rude at all! I commented here earlier that I sometimes block people who have rude faqs, but those are often lairs that don't seem to want any interactions at all. Like this for example: [quote name="LittleParade" date="2024-12-28 06:51:13" ] "Q: can I- A: no, do not DM me, do not interact with me in any capacity. I will not answer, I will block you, etc" [/quote]