@
XiangEr
Ooh, beautiful! I think I have a copy of that skin saved for a future Dreamer too. Oneroi will be registered right away. :)
@
XiangEr
Ooh, beautiful! I think I have a copy of that skin saved for a future Dreamer too. Oneroi will be registered right away. :)
@Neshomeh
Can I adopt Luther, if no one else will?
[url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92660788][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/926608/92660788_350.png[/img][/url]
@
Neshomeh
Can I adopt Luther, if no one else will?
Fandragon directory
here Wishlists
here and
here
Check out my dressing service:
https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/drs/3293238/1
@FL1GHT0F87 - Absolutely! Yay, I'm glad someone is giving him a home. I think he's gorgeous, in an eerie way. [emoji=spiral laughing size=1]
@
FL1GHT0F87 - Absolutely! Yay, I'm glad someone is giving him a home. I think he's gorgeous, in an eerie way.
Happy March!
I'm late because I came down with a cold and was just kinda hunkered down for a while, so these hatchlings are already grown up.
Plus, as it turns out, this is my final post in this series, and I'm a bit sad about it. I got my Imperial, and he doesn't qualify. Go figure.
I do think he has potential, though. His brother, not so much, but there's a half-decent Auraboa scry in his bio.
Since this phase of my project is over, I'll probably start exalting the less-good dragons in the near future. If you've got your eye on one, speak now or forever hold your peace!
As always, prices are open to negotiation and you're welcome to a free Scroll of Renaming if you want one. Be sure to let me know.
[size=5][b]For Sale[/b][/size]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93329567][img alt="Penultimus"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/933296/93329567_350.png[/img][/url]
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[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Penultimus[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/59627542]Zhaan[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87664627]Vardyger[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] Gloom Pharaoh
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Coral Flair
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] [b]Rose[/b] Runes
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]15,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]15[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93329568][img alt="Finitus"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/933296/93329568_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Finitus[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
(non-qualifying)
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/59627542]Zhaan[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87664627]Vardyger[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] Thistle Pharaoh
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Fuchsia Flair
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] Black Runes
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]10,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]10[/size]
[/columns]
These hatchlings from previous Dreamer clutches are also still available:
[columns]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87350984][img alt="Moth"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/873510/87350984.png[/img][br]Moth[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87350985][img alt="Aniseed"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/873510/87350985.png[/img][br]Aniseed[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/90237785][img alt="Jocose"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/902378/90237785.png[/img][br]Jocose[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91000263][img alt="Reprieve"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/910003/91000263.png[/img][br]Reprieve[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91000264][img alt="Remedy"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/910003/91000264.png[/img][br]Remedy[/url][/center]
[/columns]
[columns]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91000265][img alt="Respite"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/910003/91000265.png[/img][br]Respite[/url][br](Non-qualifying)[/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927791][img alt="Brunnera"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/919278/91927791.png[/img][br]Brunnera[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927792][img alt="Lupine"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/919278/91927792.png[/img][br]Lupine[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92660787][img alt="Rosa"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/926608/92660787.png[/img][br]Rosa[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92943361][img alt="Terni"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/929434/92943361.png[/img][br]Terni[/url][/center]
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[columns]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92943362][img alt="Valentina"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/929434/92943362.png[/img][br]Valentina[/url][/center]
Happy March!
I'm late because I came down with a cold and was just kinda hunkered down for a while, so these hatchlings are already grown up.
Plus, as it turns out, this is my final post in this series, and I'm a bit sad about it. I got my Imperial, and he doesn't qualify. Go figure.
I do think he has potential, though. His brother, not so much, but there's a half-decent Auraboa scry in his bio.
Since this phase of my project is over, I'll probably start exalting the less-good dragons in the near future. If you've got your eye on one, speak now or forever hold your peace!
As always, prices are open to negotiation and you're welcome to a free Scroll of Renaming if you want one. Be sure to let me know.
For Sale
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Penultimus
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: Zhaan
Father: Vardyger
Gloom Pharaoh
Coral Flair
Rose Runes
15,000
15
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Finitus
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
(non-qualifying)
Mother: Zhaan
Father: Vardyger
Thistle Pharaoh
Fuchsia Flair
Black Runes
10,000
10
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These hatchlings from previous Dreamer clutches are also still available:
I'm ready to register my dragon!
[url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92771994][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/927720/92771994_350.png[/img][/url]
Name: Alora
Generation: 3
Lore: In her bio.
I'm ready to register my dragon!
Name: Alora
Generation: 3
Lore: In her bio.
@
UniverseMaker
Neat lore! She'll be registered right away.
[quote name="Neshomeh" date="2024-03-08 14:07:09" ][center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92660787][img alt="Rosa"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/926608/92660787.png[/img][br]Rosa[/url][/center][/quote]
Hello! Could I adopt Rosa, please?
Neshomeh wrote on 2024-03-08 14:07:09:
Hello! Could I adopt Rosa, please?
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Griff {} she/they
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@
GrifletRose - You certainly may! CR incoming. ^_^
Okay, I know I said I was done, but, uh...
Happy April Fool's Day! [emoji=spiral winking size=1]
In addition to one more Zhaan/Vardyger clutch for the occasion, I have my second Teasel/Lancet clutch (with another on the way soon!), hatched in my quest for the perfect Dreamer x Surgeon hybrid to start a line of Auraboas, so I'm sharing the lot. There are some nice ones in both clutches!
ETA 4/4/2024: Now also featuring the new Teasel/Lancet clutch! Names were chosen from a list of African-American artists, because why not.
As always, prices are open to negotiation and you're welcome to a free Scroll of Renaming if you want one. Be sure to let me know.
[size=5][b]For Sale[/b][/size]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94088033][img alt="Lazard"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/940881/94088033_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Lazard[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927790]Teasel[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86593270]Lancet[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] [b]Moon[/b] Basic
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] [b]Blush[/b] Saddle
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] [b]Rose[/b] Keel
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]25,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]25[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94088032][img alt="Panteha"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/940881/94088032_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Panteha[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927790]Teasel[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86593270]Lancet[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/female.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="uncommon eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/1rrGYlF.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] [b]Orca[/b] Basic
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Fuchsia Clouded
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] Mauve Veined
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]15,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]15[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94088031][img alt="Eldzier"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/940881/94088031_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Eldzier[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927790]Teasel[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86593270]Lancet[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] [b]Silver[/b] Basic
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] [b]Coral[/b] Saddle
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] Raspberry Keel
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]20,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]20[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94018495][img alt="Jester"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/940185/94018495_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b][s]Jester[/s][/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/59627542]Zhaan[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87664627]Vardyger[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/female.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="uncommon eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/1rrGYlF.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] Mulberry Pharaoh
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Mauve Flair
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] [b]Antique[/b] Runes
[size=4]Sold![/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94018494][img alt="Joker"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/940185/94018494_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Joker[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/59627542]Zhaan[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87664627]Vardyger[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] Smoke Iridescent
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] [b]Coral[/b] Facet
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] Eldritch Runes
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]15,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]15[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/94018493][img alt="Harlequin"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/940185/94018493_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Harlequin[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/59627542]Zhaan[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87664627]Vardyger[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] Shadow Iridescent
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] [b]Antique[/b] Flair
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] Smoke Runes
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]15,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]15[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93533404][img alt="Emile"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/935335/93533404_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Emile[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927790]Teasel[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86593270]Lancet[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="uncommon eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/1rrGYlF.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] [b]Orca[/b] Basic
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Magenta Clouded
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] Magenta Keel
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]20,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]20[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93533403][img alt="Brennan"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/935335/93533403_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Brennan[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
+ Surgeons Subspecies
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927790]Teasel[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86593270]Lancet[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/female.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="uncommon eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/1rrGYlF.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] [b]Ice[/b] Basic
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Cerise Hypnotic
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] [b]White[/b] Gembond
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]35,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]35[/size]
(She costs more cuz I put some work into her and she's my fav atm.)
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93533401][img alt="Rembrandt"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/935335/93533401_350.png[/img][/url]
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[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Rembrandt[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927790]Teasel[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86593270]Lancet[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] [b]Silver[/b] Basic
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Brick Saddle
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] Mauve Veined
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]15,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]15[/size]
[/columns]
[columns][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93533400][img alt="Franklin"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/935335/93533400_350.png[/img][/url]
[nextcol][color=transparent]__[/color]
[nextcol]
[size=4][b]Franklin[/b][/size]
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
+ Surgeons Subspecies
Mother: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927790]Teasel[/url]
Father: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/86593270]Lancet[/url]
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/layout/lair/icons/male.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/nature_rune.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/static/icons/eye-type-normal.png[/img][br][img alt="common eyes"]https://i.imgur.com/g3Cdh1p.png[/img]
[emoji=primary gene size=1] [b]Platinum[/b] Basic
[emoji=secondary gene size=1] Cerise Freckle
[emoji=tertiary gene size=1] [b]Orca[/b] Keel
[emoji=treasure size=1] [size=4]30,000[/size][br]
[emoji=gem size=1] [size=4]30[/size]
[/columns]
These hatchlings from previous Dreamer clutches are also still available:
[columns]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87350984][img alt="Moth"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/873510/87350984.png[/img][br]Moth[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87350985][img alt="Aniseed"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/873510/87350985.png[/img][br]Aniseed[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91000263][img alt="Reprieve"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/910003/91000263.png[/img][br]Reprieve[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91000265][img alt="Respite"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/910003/91000265.png[/img][br]Respite[/url][br](Non-qualifying)[/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927791][img alt="Brunnera"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/919278/91927791.png[/img][br]Brunnera[/url][/center]
[/columns]
[columns]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91927792][img alt="Lupine"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/919278/91927792.png[/img][br]Lupine[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92943362][img alt="Valentina"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/929434/92943362.png[/img][br]Valentina[/url][/center]
[nextcol]
[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93329568][img alt="Finitus"]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/933296/93329568.png[/img][br]Finitus[/url][br](Non-qualifying)[/center]
[/columns]
Okay, I know I said I was done, but, uh...
Happy April Fool's Day!
In addition to one more Zhaan/Vardyger clutch for the occasion, I have my second Teasel/Lancet clutch (with another on the way soon!), hatched in my quest for the perfect Dreamer x Surgeon hybrid to start a line of Auraboas, so I'm sharing the lot. There are some nice ones in both clutches!
ETA 4/4/2024: Now also featuring the new Teasel/Lancet clutch! Names were chosen from a list of African-American artists, because why not.
As always, prices are open to negotiation and you're welcome to a free Scroll of Renaming if you want one. Be sure to let me know.
For Sale
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Lazard
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: Teasel
Father: Lancet
Moon Basic
Blush Saddle
Rose Keel
25,000
25
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Panteha
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: Teasel
Father: Lancet
Orca Basic
Fuchsia Clouded
Mauve Veined
15,000
15
|
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Eldzier
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: Teasel
Father: Lancet
Silver Basic
Coral Saddle
Raspberry Keel
20,000
20
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Jester
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: Zhaan
Father: Vardyger
Mulberry Pharaoh
Mauve Flair
Antique Runes
Sold!
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Joker
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: Zhaan
Father: Vardyger
Smoke Iridescent
Coral Facet
Eldritch Runes
15,000
15
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Harlequin
Sweet Dreams Gen 3
Mother: Zhaan
Father: Vardyger
Shadow Iridescent
Antique Flair
Smoke Runes
15,000
15
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Emile
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: Teasel
Father: Lancet
Orca Basic
Magenta Clouded
Magenta Keel
20,000
20
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Brennan
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
+ Surgeons Subspecies
Mother: Teasel
Father: Lancet
Ice Basic
Cerise Hypnotic
White Gembond
35,000
35
(She costs more cuz I put some work into her and she's my fav atm.)
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Rembrandt
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
Mother: Teasel
Father: Lancet
Silver Basic
Brick Saddle
Mauve Veined
15,000
15
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Franklin
Sweet Dreams Gen 4
+ Surgeons Subspecies
Mother: Teasel
Father: Lancet
Platinum Basic
Cerise Freckle
Orca Keel
30,000
30
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These hatchlings from previous Dreamer clutches are also still available:
@
Neshomeh
May I buy Jester please!!