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TOPIC | Coliseum camping CAPTCHA
[quote name="Corviknight" date="2020-12-21 08:35:01" ] [quote name="Umbra" date="2020-12-20 23:38:29" ] The bonuses are pretty useless to me. It would be a lot better if it would give you a bit of health or a bit of breath. [/quote] If you find yourself to often run out of breath and health, it might be time to invest in a healer? [/quote] I'd say that it would at least feel like getting SOMETHING? Rather than one round of +5% "Mind", a stat that I have never thought of or cared about. I would honestly rather see the bonus just go away completely because it feels pandering, like they want us to think they are doing us a favor, but that's really just me being petty. Besides, the bonus isn't the real issue here.
Corviknight wrote on 2020-12-21 08:35:01:
Umbra wrote on 2020-12-20 23:38:29:

The bonuses are pretty useless to me. It would be a lot better if it would give you a bit of health or a bit of breath.

If you find yourself to often run out of breath and health, it might be time to invest in a healer?


I'd say that it would at least feel like getting SOMETHING? Rather than one round of +5% "Mind", a stat that I have never thought of or cared about. I would honestly rather see the bonus just go away completely because it feels pandering, like they want us to think they are doing us a favor, but that's really just me being petty. Besides, the bonus isn't the real issue here.

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[quote name="forgranite" date="2020-12-22 10:00:26" ] I'd say that it would at least feel like getting SOMETHING? Rather than one round of +5% "Mind", a stat that I have never thought of or cared about. I would honestly rather see the bonus just go away completely because it feels pandering, like they want us to think they are doing us a favor, but that's really just me being petty. Besides, the bonus isn't the real issue here. [/quote] They are actually doing me a favor most of the time, except when it's AGI, DEF or MND. For everything else, I do benefit from the bonuses, meaning I benefit more than not.
forgranite wrote on 2020-12-22 10:00:26:
I'd say that it would at least feel like getting SOMETHING? Rather than one round of +5% "Mind", a stat that I have never thought of or cared about. I would honestly rather see the bonus just go away completely because it feels pandering, like they want us to think they are doing us a favor, but that's really just me being petty. Besides, the bonus isn't the real issue here.

They are actually doing me a favor most of the time, except when it's AGI, DEF or MND. For everything else, I do benefit from the bonuses, meaning I benefit more than not.


I support a rework. I like the suggestion of "pick the upright dragon," but really, there are so many options that are better than what there is now, and people have had some good ideas in this thread.

I've gotten pretty good at getting them right with the amount of time I spend in the coli, and thankfully I'm not colorblind and I don't get headaches too easily, but I am nearsighted and sometimes I have to squint for a good minute. I don't think I've ever gotten locked out, at least.

I don't think the captchas have caused as big of an issue for me than it has for others, but it clearly is an issue. I don't know the coding behind it, but hopefully there can be some changes.
I support a rework. I like the suggestion of "pick the upright dragon," but really, there are so many options that are better than what there is now, and people have had some good ideas in this thread.

I've gotten pretty good at getting them right with the amount of time I spend in the coli, and thankfully I'm not colorblind and I don't get headaches too easily, but I am nearsighted and sometimes I have to squint for a good minute. I don't think I've ever gotten locked out, at least.

I don't think the captchas have caused as big of an issue for me than it has for others, but it clearly is an issue. I don't know the coding behind it, but hopefully there can be some changes.
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Support.

Honestly, I can't believe this still hasn't been altered. It was a problem when they beta'd it before the Coli rework dropped.

There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra".

Contending with clashing colors, familiars that look like dragons, items that look like dragons, and the dragon portraits being upside down, backwards, any color, any gene, and able to be wearing apparel...it's a nightmare. And that's not even touching on the fact that sometimes I definitely click on the dragon and it tells me I'm wrong.

The captchas need to be simplified. I don't even care that the rewards are useless for my fully leveled and stoned team.
Support.

Honestly, I can't believe this still hasn't been altered. It was a problem when they beta'd it before the Coli rework dropped.

There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra".

Contending with clashing colors, familiars that look like dragons, items that look like dragons, and the dragon portraits being upside down, backwards, any color, any gene, and able to be wearing apparel...it's a nightmare. And that's not even touching on the fact that sometimes I definitely click on the dragon and it tells me I'm wrong.

The captchas need to be simplified. I don't even care that the rewards are useless for my fully leveled and stoned team.
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There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra".

Pretty sure that's pretty easy to bot.

Captchas could be simpler, but let's not make them mindless, because making them too easy will defeat their entire point - to prevent botting.

There is a balance, and a lot of suggestions to "improve" them are actually going too much into the other direction, making them waaaaaay too permissive.
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There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra".

Pretty sure that's pretty easy to bot.

Captchas could be simpler, but let's not make them mindless, because making them too easy will defeat their entire point - to prevent botting.

There is a balance, and a lot of suggestions to "improve" them are actually going too much into the other direction, making them waaaaaay too permissive.
[quote name="Corviknight" date="2020-12-23 09:29:38" ] Quote: There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra". Pretty sure that's pretty easy to bot. Captchas could be simpler, but let's not make them mindless, because making them too easy will defeat their entire point - to prevent botting. There is a balance, and a lot of suggestions to "improve" them are actually going too much into the other direction, making them waaaaaay too permissive. [/quote] It depends on how the pictures are formatted, I believe. It might be more reasonable to do a single dragon type and ask to pick genes, but I worry that might be really difficult for new players who aren't familiar with everything yet. Regardless, anything is better than this. [img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/3db76a25cd1757a68723297ddfd81a9d/86ef2dc8a6a3a11c-88/s500x750/0ff4686821326c165fc8d5ef800afe365b3e1d1c.png[/img]
Corviknight wrote on 2020-12-23 09:29:38:
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There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra".


Pretty sure that's pretty easy to bot.

Captchas could be simpler, but let's not make them mindless, because making them too easy will defeat their entire point - to prevent botting.

There is a balance, and a lot of suggestions to "improve" them are actually going too much into the other direction, making them waaaaaay too permissive.

It depends on how the pictures are formatted, I believe. It might be more reasonable to do a single dragon type and ask to pick genes, but I worry that might be really difficult for new players who aren't familiar with everything yet.

Regardless, anything is better than this.

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[quote name="McAlli" date="2020-12-23 09:39:42" ] [quote name="Corviknight" date="2020-12-23 09:29:38" ] Quote: There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra". Pretty sure that's pretty easy to bot. Captchas could be simpler, but let's not make them mindless, because making them too easy will defeat their entire point - to prevent botting. There is a balance, and a lot of suggestions to "improve" them are actually going too much into the other direction, making them waaaaaay too permissive. [/quote] It depends on how the pictures are formatted, I believe. It might be more reasonable to do a single dragon type and ask to pick genes, but I worry that might be really difficult for new players who aren't familiar with everything yet. Regardless, anything is better than this. [img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/3db76a25cd1757a68723297ddfd81a9d/86ef2dc8a6a3a11c-88/s500x750/0ff4686821326c165fc8d5ef800afe365b3e1d1c.png[/img] [/quote] This is why I suggested 'pick the upright dragon'. Normally it is fairly easy for humans to pick creatures that are 'upright' but if there are enough options, it would probably be pretty difficult for bots to do the same.
McAlli wrote on 2020-12-23 09:39:42:
Corviknight wrote on 2020-12-23 09:29:38:
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There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra".


Pretty sure that's pretty easy to bot.

Captchas could be simpler, but let's not make them mindless, because making them too easy will defeat their entire point - to prevent botting.

There is a balance, and a lot of suggestions to "improve" them are actually going too much into the other direction, making them waaaaaay too permissive.

It depends on how the pictures are formatted, I believe. It might be more reasonable to do a single dragon type and ask to pick genes, but I worry that might be really difficult for new players who aren't familiar with everything yet.

Regardless, anything is better than this.

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This is why I suggested 'pick the upright dragon'.

Normally it is fairly easy for humans to pick creatures that are 'upright' but if there are enough options, it would probably be pretty difficult for bots to do the same.

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I do agree with changing up the captcha a little bit some of the dragons i chose are way too difficult to see. Like that one post with the black gaurdian. Many people have eye issues and it would be better if the backgrounds were changed for them to not blend in so easily. But someone these suggestions in this thread could be easy to bot if they weren't randomized dragons or so. I hopefully wish they won't pull a roblox captcha and make it difficult for users to get past. It has to be easy for the users but difficult for the bot.
I do agree with changing up the captcha a little bit some of the dragons i chose are way too difficult to see. Like that one post with the black gaurdian. Many people have eye issues and it would be better if the backgrounds were changed for them to not blend in so easily. But someone these suggestions in this thread could be easy to bot if they weren't randomized dragons or so. I hopefully wish they won't pull a roblox captcha and make it difficult for users to get past. It has to be easy for the users but difficult for the bot.
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I just feel like after two years it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect the staff discussion to have... gotten somewhere? Especially because, as others are mentioning, this wasn't a surprise problem, it was being brought up before the new coli went fully live.
I just feel like after two years it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect the staff discussion to have... gotten somewhere? Especially because, as others are mentioning, this wasn't a surprise problem, it was being brought up before the new coli went fully live.
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[quote name="McAlli" date="2020-12-23 09:25:09" ] Support. Honestly, I can't believe this still hasn't been altered. It was a problem when they beta'd it before the Coli rework dropped. There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra". Contending with clashing colors, familiars that look like dragons, items that look like dragons, and the dragon portraits being upside down, backwards, any color, any gene, and able to be wearing apparel...it's a nightmare. And that's not even touching on the fact that sometimes I definitely click on the dragon and it tells me I'm wrong. The captchas need to be simplified. I don't even care that the rewards are useless for my fully leveled and stoned team. [/quote] Omg yes. Sometimes I’ll click the dragon, MULTIPLE TIMES IN A ROW, and it’ll still not work. It’s quite annoying and I don’t know how it’s managed to go this long without a fix/rework
McAlli wrote on 2020-12-23 09:25:09:
Support.

Honestly, I can't believe this still hasn't been altered. It was a problem when they beta'd it before the Coli rework dropped.

There's no reason for a Captcha to look like that. It could literally be as simple as "Here are four dragons, click the Tundra".

Contending with clashing colors, familiars that look like dragons, items that look like dragons, and the dragon portraits being upside down, backwards, any color, any gene, and able to be wearing apparel...it's a nightmare. And that's not even touching on the fact that sometimes I definitely click on the dragon and it tells me I'm wrong.

The captchas need to be simplified. I don't even care that the rewards are useless for my fully leveled and stoned team.

Omg yes. Sometimes I’ll click the dragon, MULTIPLE TIMES IN A ROW, and it’ll still not work. It’s quite annoying and I don’t know how it’s managed to go this long without a fix/rework
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