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New players: 1st Nest Hatchlings wanted!
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  1. This thread is for helping find new homes for "First Nest" hatchlings from your progenitors (the first two dragons you start out with)
    There are other ways to sell your hatchlings of course! Like the Auction House or on the Sales forum of your Flight or the general Dragon Sales forum but I’m hoping to get something a little bit specific, and willing to pay a bit for it too ^^
    **but only while you're new please- this thread hopefully functions as a way to help jump start new players with using the forums, learning the game basics, and maybe even make a little extra money ^.^**

  2. This is specifically for the players who just joined this month :)
    (This isn't a general gen2 sales thread)



  3. It is NOT a resale thread. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but it is intended for the newest players to sell their own hatchlings via this thread.
    I know there are some awesome babies for a smart sniper to catch, but this thread isn't quite geared for selling those lovelies. Good luck! They should sell well on the other sales threads though!





    Feel free to read more information about the thread here





    If you’re a brand new player interested in finding a home for one of your first hatchlings ever, then feel free to bookmark or subscribe to this thread so that you can find it again and post your new hatchlings here when they hatch!






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    For the first year anniversary of our thread here (July), I've updated to now include graphics! Art style is a tribute to Mucha, one of the masters of Art Nouveau style. I thought the thread deserved a little decoration after all this time.



    New Players:

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    New player raffle ran by "one of our own" <3! Click the banner above to see ^.^


    Buyers


    Did you know there is a Dragon Share just for the dragons bought from New Players? Well, we're joining forces if you will =D I think it'll be a great place to show off your new First Nest clan members. Please feel free to come and join me! Share your new hatchling and maybe the plans you have for them if you'd like. I know I will!

    Please come visit The Newbie Adopt Project and let everyone see your wonderful new dragon!

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    Our thread's official affiliate in finding First Nest hatchlings a home ^.^






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New players: 1st Nest Hatchlings wanted!
Aug 15, 2016 10:27:38

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New Players, Welcome! | Dragons for Sale! | Other Links and Useful Things

Signature line buttons are at the bottom of the post!


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November Open Registration First Nest Hatchlings
I'll try to keep a collection of available hatchlings here.
Sellers: I'll post one scry per group too (cause it's fun) (If you post a scry with your hatchlings I'll use your scry ^^)


Buyers: I'm including the scry number to try to help make it a few clicks easier to see =D Please feel free to make offers! It's difficult to figure out dragon pricing (and especially so when we're new XD).






November's New Player First Nest Hatchlings will appear here




Please make an offer to TheRamblingRose for:




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Please make an offer to Devoramnis for:






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Please make an offer to Dradez for:




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Please make an offer to PeridotPangolin for:






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Please make an offer to yoshino for:







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Please make an offer to AquamarineNaga for:





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Please make an offer to Busterbear7 for:









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Please make an offer to SecretDreamer for:




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Please make an offer to KaminooniSeika for:





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Please make an offer to liaxe for:




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Please make an offer to Shayminara for:



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Please make an offer to Shiraz for:




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There are also some other gen2 hatchlings available on this post. Though not from one of our newest players, you may still fall in love with one of these babies ^.^





I'll be pinging this list in the afternoon/evening server time so that our new flight members have time to post!

I'll also update it daily so please let me know if you'd like off of the list ;)
small note: Sometimes, for whatever reason, I have to post the very next morning instead though - but the ping will come! XD



If you are interested in buying a hatchling from a new player’s First Nest, please let me know. I’ll add you to the ping list and give you a ping on hatch day ^^ Ping me here to help keep the thread active =D
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notes: ping zzzhorses for wine/orca/orca female only




You've checked out the available hatchlings, maybe you've joined our buyers list, or even adopted one (or more ;) )

Now come over to this Share Thread and let everyone see your new dragon!

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Our thread's official affiliate in finding First Nest hatchlings a home ^.^







Also, if you'd like, feel free to mention this thread in your Flight's forum to help spread the word ^^



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Every couple of days I will add another, so please peek in from time to time if you like them, bump the thread if you'd like, or share you progens! I aim to make one for each flight.


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New players: 1st Nest Hatchlings wanted!
Aug 15, 2016 10:27:44

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Many of us have albeit arbitrary and sentimental ways to sort of assign value to a given dragon. For example, I kept my first hatchling
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And even gened her up! Most first time hatchlings will have basic genes of course, so applying gene scrolls to them is an option (and what I’ll be planning to do) but it can get costly.
I also kept my first Flight Rising Christmas hatchling, and the first Night of the Nocturne Egg I found,
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Other ways people collect certain dragons are by collecting representatives for each Flight, or by coming up with Dream dragons. A lot of times these involve long breeding programs and regular searches of the auction house.
The ”Scry Shop” comes in handy for this!
In my case, I’ve been building my Flight reps from the first nest hatchlings of new players, which is why I set up this thread ^^ I also find unique project dragons this way.


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This is the 1st Nest hatchling I bought from a new player during the November registration window last year through this thread. November honors the Earth Flight, so this dragon is now my Earth Flight representative. She already has a custom user-made accent, all of her genes, and a full bio in her profile (which is more than what many of my dragons have though the flight reps I get from this very thread are quickly fixing that XD)

Anyhow, there are a few of us who would be interested in seeing your first hatchlings, and possibly buying one from you. So, about a week after you nest your two progen, please feel free to come back here and show off those gorgeous new dragonets!



In the mean time, please share your progens, the two dragons you start out with, here! It's fun to share and it gives an idea of what to expect (which is pretty fun too) =D I have some tips and tricks about how to do this if needed here.

also, please keep in mind, this is a sales thread intended to earn new players some treasure or gems in exchange for their first hatchlings. Sellers: please be sure you 1) want to sell and 2) that trading for treasures or gems is the default expectation ^^


You’re also welcome and encouraged to ask question if you’d like- if I don’t know the answer, I’ll be happy to help track it down =D The whole community is really awesome about helping with questions here especially- feel free to ask away ^^


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New players: 1st Nest Hatchlings wanted!
Aug 15, 2016 10:27:50

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There are a few things that might be helpful that I thought I’d add here ^^
For example, to “ping” me so that I get a notification that you’re messaging me here on this thread, copy and paste my username along with the @ symbol in front. Like this:


This way I get notified that someone is addressing me in the thread. This is a huge help to make sure your messages get read!

To post a large picture
of your dragons, along with a sweet link directly to their page in your lair (which hopefully you will be doing in a week! =D ) you go to the dragon’s page, click on the Generate Code button at the bottom of their statistics panel, and copy the bbcode portion. You can then paste it directly to the forum post.

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If you’re interested, here is a link to a BBCode Guide I saved to my bookmarks folder when I first joined. I still use it!


Speaking of bookmarks,
this is probably the best way to save posts you want to refer to again later. Or, many of us save them as links in our lair profile pages. To make a url to this page, for example, you would use this code:
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[url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/drw/1950229]First Nest Hatchlings Wanted![/url]
You paste in the url address from your browser after the equal sign, and type in a note or reminder for the name after the first ] symbol, and you’ll always be able to find the forum thread you’re looking for.


Curious about what "scry" means?

The different genes are available to sort of preview here. This is one of my favorite features on the site. A lot of us have resorted to calling it the cry shop though because playing around with this tool shows off sooo many awesome color/gene combos- it can lead to some huge breeding and gene projects. At least you don't have to actually buy the genes though XD

Many of us, myself included, have kind of taken to playing the game by picking "project dragons" and spending most of our game time and treasure/gems on picking and choosing new gene scrolls, but a whole lot of times I've wondered if I'm playing the game wrong (OMG it's so expensive LOL) Breeding projects, in a way, can be more fun and fulfilling, but they take a bit of time and some careful management lol.
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If you're not sure how to use the scry shop, Copy the ID number found under your dragon's name, and then go to the "Scrying Workshop" found under the Library category on the navigation bar to the left (or click here ;D ). Paste the number into the open text field and click Load Dragon. Now you can change all of the genes and even the breed around until you find the perfect genes for your dragon.
If you'd like to, share the results here ( =D ) Right-click the image of your dragon once you're happy with the design, and pick Copy Image Address. Then, come back here to your post and click on the little tree icon on the post's editing tool bar. Paste the text into the open text field and click okay. Your dragon will now show here! (you can use the preview button on the bottom left to make sure it worked.)

side note: You can't change colors though! While the Predict Morphology scry shop allows you to change colors, you can't actually pick and choose colors for your dragons, per se. This is a fun way to see what all is possible though ^^
AND, breed change scrolls that allow you to make a dragon an Imperial are nearly impossible to get! They were only released way way back and no longer available otherwise save for the one or two (w/e) that still surface and are occasionally for sale- I don't even want to guess how much they might go for though. I've never seen one for sale myself- perhaps they have all been used up by now...










So, you will likely have more hatchlings to sell soon. Maybe you're even thinking about making a hatchery? But maybe you're not sure yet how to go about it. You're not the only one! The question comes up pretty often so I thought I'd share the answer I often give here...

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I am not exactly an expert by any means XD I can share a little of what I do know... ask enough of us and make a sort of formula of your own out of it, and you could do very well at the whole hatchery thing- I've noticed many breeders have increased prices successfully more and more these days! ...to the tune of 500 gems and more... o.o

So, from what I've noticed, great/successful hatcheries have a few things in common:
  1. They have a template they stick to throughout. This usually includes:
    • a way to look up the breeding pair/parents,
    • a visual idea of the color ranges for the three genes,
    • maybe the odds of getting the parents' genes if there are different genes between the two.
    • This will also often include three or four examples of the possible offspring.
  2. They often have at least some sort of graphics in use. Something to make the thread interesting, eye-catching, pretty... but not too much as to take attention away from the dragons XD
  3. They keep the thread active by bumping it about once a day. If you build an affiliates section, you can help bump others' threads and they will bump yours, keeping it active more often.
  4. You can place a signature-sized version of at least one of the hatchlings for sale in your forum signature line that links back to your hatchery/sales thread. Or make (or order from other players) a little graphic like a small banner to advertise your hatchery ^.^


Here is a list of tools you can use to do these various things:

This one allows you to see color ranges, gene rarity/outcomes, and even makes a pretty decent breeding card

This is much like the above, but it's slick, and elegant, and I really am impressed with the work they did to build this tool. I love to share it! It is a touch more complicated though, and make sure to use the default shape icon- the other shapes won't work, sadly. The other tools this user makes are fantastic too, btw ^.^

This user contributes an impressively large collection of free resources for use in bios, and more! You might find some of the graphics and elements useful for decorating your hatchery

This user made some great apps of sorts that build much of the forum code for you! This makes updating and creating those signature line ads nice and easy, as you can just place in the ID number and the app makes the rest of the code for you. You can swap out the dragon's url (linking back to the lair) for the hatchery's instead so that when people click on it, they are directed to your thread.

You can get custom created graphics made for your shop too. I tried that from this user, but there are many! The art forums and creative corner forums are good places to find shops like this.

The guides forum is another great resource for hatcheries (as well as everything else in the game of course- good thing the "forum search" works now) XD











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Coliseum Leveling Guide
Tomo’s Trivia Guide
Baldwin’s Cauldron Guide
Swipps and Baldwin’s items Guide (though no longer up to date, still useful ^^)
a handy tool that helps you see the specific colors you can expect from a breeding pair
A more in-depth but similar tool that include genes rarity/odds
speaking of, here is a full explanation of rarities
There are many more Guides available; there is bound to be something to help with whatever you’re needing.
Make fancy bios with pre-made, free templates!


Also, be sure to check the Raffle forums, and your flight’s private thread! Many groups and individuals will be holding fun raffles and free give-a-ways! I got about a dozen dragons when I first joined for free. This is also how I learned the most about how to play the game, and of how awesome this community is.


That’s about it for now I suppose XD

Thank you for visiting, and I really hope to see awesome hatchlings soon ^^



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Aug 15, 2016 16:48:54

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When it comes to pricing for Auction House (AH) sales, sometimes the best bet is to compare to other similar hatchlings by genes and colors. Also note that many people will name their hatchlings so that if they are exalted, they will be exalted with a name ^^

Sadly, gen2s don't actually hold any real value in terms of the game economy. In fact, often they will be especially low value due to having all basic genes and sometimes crazy colors XD
Some of us assign sort of arbitrary value to dragons for different reasons- some carry on better than others:

* gen2 IMPERIALS are valuable
*Triple colors and double colors are sought after by many players.
*certain color combos, such as pastels and "eye-burners" sell pretty well I suppose.
*gen ones from unhatched eggs are probably the only dragons that will sell well with all-basic genes, but even then they may not. I have a couple myself that aren't selling and two of them have rather close color ranges for all three genes.

Labeling them as gen2s won't really do anything for sales in the AH, unfortunately.

They are what we're looking for here though, because to some of us, they are special because they're the first nest a player ever hatches. A little memorable I guess XD

It also gives a fun way to give back to new players- a whole lot of us, when we joined, got a lot of free items and dragons- it's nice to give back now by paying much more than normal for dragons that are special- at least to the new player and a handful of us older ones ^^


I would certainly list them on the AH though! They may just have the perfect color combo for someone's project or something like that =D


Some more thoughts and discussion on dragon pricing:

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Not having 3 genes, for example, significantly lowers the chances of a dragon being purchased. A lot of users hate not having triple-gened dragons, regardless of how visible the gene is/isn't. For the sake of this argument, basic is not a gene. Because of this, most users will also not purchase triple-basic dragons. Most first-nests from newbies end up exalted because the only way to sell the hatchlings is to place them at floor prices, aka fodder prices, where they are almost always exalted.

Certain colors and combos are also a plus. Getting a dragon with 2 or 3 of the same color or an extremely tight range is appealing to a lot of users. Newer genes, especially gem genes like Butterfly/Glimmer/Petals, are sought-after in conjunction with good color ranges. Genes that work well together (ie Ripple/Current, Poison/Toxin, Petals/Butterfly) also increase chances of selling.

The exception to this triple-basic rule is G1s. Not G2s- G1s. Gen 2s used to be valuable back when the site was smaller because every triple of x color was related. Breeders used them because the chances of a G2 being related to your G6 or whatever were extremely low. Because there are SO MANY dragons on this site now (to the point where users have trouble selling anything), G2s have virtually no appeal on their own.

So G1s are valuable because they have no parents. Don't ask me why, but a lot of users like the blank-slate you get from G1s. There's also a sort of pride there because getting a specific color-combo from a G1 is a lot harder since it's all RNG- there's no way to increase your chances of getting something. With few exceptions, these are the only triple-basic dragons that users will buy.

Now onto newbies. As previously mentioned and explained, it is hard to sell the ungened offspring of your progens for anything more than the usual 3,500 treasure. Unless that dragon has a color combo that does not currently exist on site (and I'm not talking some horrible Nightshade/Murk/Vermillion), it's not going to sell for more than base price. Like I said before, even if it has genes from parent G1s- GEN 2 MEANS NOTHING ANYMORE.

So what's going on in the thread? Older users are offering to give new users help. They're offering to buy dragons from newbie nests and keep them. Because let's face it, it's a wonderful feeling seeing someone who still has one of the first dragons you've bred with lore/apparel/genes. And that's what the thread is offering.
written by a friend (thank you for doing that too!)

The best advice I was given was to stay very patient with a dragon I thought was spectacular- keep it and repost it until you can't stand it if you think it's amazing- someone else might too!

Dragon pricing is horribly subjective. The most expensive dragons I have are also among the least glamorous. It was simply that I had to have the color combo that I thought the price was worth it. I did try to haggle in one case and nearly lost the dragon :/

I've also bought other dragons with better genes and better colors at fodder prices! 5000 treasure. Versus something like 120kT!

The good news is that there will always be a ton of beautiful hatchlings- their value is what you make of it, in the end ^^
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Aug 15, 2016 18:07:01

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You are great for running this. :)
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Aug 15, 2016 18:26:22

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@lavarift thank you =D I'm grateful to have you and the others who are also interested. I'm having fun with it- hopefully others will enjoy it too ^^
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Aug 15, 2016 18:32:49

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Definitely do! I'm slow with actually gening 'em but it's really fun. :D
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Aug 16, 2016 12:07:36

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Could you add me to possible buyers? ^^
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Aug 16, 2016 12:21:11

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@Hiame Absolutely! Thank you for checking out the thread ^^
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