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[center]Intro/New Genes/General Info | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158509]Test Results[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158513]FAQs[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158519]Ping List[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158527]Test Dragons[/url][/center] Meant to be an update to the [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1123974]Breeding Rarity Comparisons guide by Kiena[/url], which is itself an update of the [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/998830]Breeding Rarity Findings guide by JessDwarf[/url] Most of the data here is originally from Kiena's thread, the original idea and a fair amount of the wording/formatting comes from Kiena and/or JessDwarf's threads. [size=4][b]Newest Gene: Starmap[/b] (Rare)[/size] vs Basic: 1/99 - 99% Basic[br]vs Common (Clown, Falcon, Piebald, Savannah, Speckle, Tapir, Tiger): 4/696 - 99% Common[br]vs Uncommon (Bar, Cherub, Giraffe, Jaguar, Jupiter, Python, Ripple, Vipera): 57/784 - 93% Uncommon[br]vs Limited (Pinstripe, Poison, Skink): 8/292 - 97% Limited[br]vs Rare (Crystal, Iridescent, Metallic, Petals, Wasp): 252/248 - 50% Rare [br] ----- [size=5][b]General Breed/Gene Comparisons[/b][/size] Breeds and genes appear to operate on a tier system - the higher the tier, the less likely it will appear when bred against a lower tier. Breeds/genes on the same tier will have an equal chance to appear, and all breeds/genes on the same tier appear to have the same percentage chances against other tiers. (That is, a second tier clown gene has the same chance against a ripple gene as a stripes gene would have against a seraph gene.) The two following charts show this tier system, to the best of my knowledge: [img]http://keelanrosa.com/imgstash/BreedingRarityCat.png[/img] Gem genes seem to be universally the same tier on the high end, and all basic and plentiful dragons together at the low end. Breeds and genes available in the marketplace for treasure are mostly split between the common/uncommon tiers. [img]http://i.imgur.com/dj4H1H8.png[/img] For the second chart, the number on the left in a cell is the chance of getting the tier on the left, while the number on the right is the chance of getting the tier on the top. So if you want to compare stripes to seraph, you'd look up common on the left and uncommon on the top, and see you have a 75% chance of common (stripes) and a 25% chance of uncommon (seraph). The odds on the above chart can be (mostly) confirmed by checking all the tests which have been done so far: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/N5fPJs0.png[/IMG] (the test summary slightly contradicts the estimated odds in two places, Plentiful v. Common is probably just margin of error and random tests being random but i'm planning to run some more tests to be sure of Plentiful v. Limited) More detailed test results are in an [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sUzLlzhwtB0jcq47pyhWPo0gbit1YPeFzX86yss8gEc/edit?usp=sharing]incredibly convoluted multi-page spreadsheet[/url], if spreadsheets are your thing.
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Meant to be an update to the Breeding Rarity Comparisons guide by Kiena, which is itself an update of the Breeding Rarity Findings guide by JessDwarf

Most of the data here is originally from Kiena's thread, the original idea and a fair amount of the wording/formatting comes from Kiena and/or JessDwarf's threads.

Newest Gene: Starmap (Rare)
vs Basic: 1/99 - 99% Basic
vs Common (Clown, Falcon, Piebald, Savannah, Speckle, Tapir, Tiger): 4/696 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon (Bar, Cherub, Giraffe, Jaguar, Jupiter, Python, Ripple, Vipera): 57/784 - 93% Uncommon
vs Limited (Pinstripe, Poison, Skink): 8/292 - 97% Limited
vs Rare (Crystal, Iridescent, Metallic, Petals, Wasp): 252/248 - 50% Rare




General Breed/Gene Comparisons

Breeds and genes appear to operate on a tier system - the higher the tier, the less likely it will appear when bred against a lower tier. Breeds/genes on the same tier will have an equal chance to appear, and all breeds/genes on the same tier appear to have the same percentage chances against other tiers. (That is, a second tier clown gene has the same chance against a ripple gene as a stripes gene would have against a seraph gene.) The two following charts show this tier system, to the best of my knowledge:

BreedingRarityCat.png

Gem genes seem to be universally the same tier on the high end, and all basic and plentiful dragons together at the low end. Breeds and genes available in the marketplace for treasure are mostly split between the common/uncommon tiers.

dj4H1H8.png

For the second chart, the number on the left in a cell is the chance of getting the tier on the left, while the number on the right is the chance of getting the tier on the top.

So if you want to compare stripes to seraph, you'd look up common on the left and uncommon on the top, and see you have a 75% chance of common (stripes) and a 25% chance of uncommon (seraph).

The odds on the above chart can be (mostly) confirmed by checking all the tests which have been done so far:

N5fPJs0.png

(the test summary slightly contradicts the estimated odds in two places, Plentiful v. Common is probably just margin of error and random tests being random but i'm planning to run some more tests to be sure of Plentiful v. Limited)

More detailed test results are in an incredibly convoluted multi-page spreadsheet, if spreadsheets are your thing.
[center][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#1584487]Intro/New Genes/General Info[/url] | Test Results | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158513]FAQs[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158519]Ping List[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158527]Test Dragons[/url][/center] [br] [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/6iRPbb1.png[/img][/center] [br] [size=5][b]Summary of Test Results[/b][/size] This post is just going to summarise genes/breeds against various tiers, as otherwise it's quite unwieldy. A link to a document with more comprehensive information will be put up when i'm done getting it in order. The information collected is on the frequency of gene and breed inheritance through each possible pairing and is presented in the format below: Gene/breed #1 vs gene/breed #2: Number / Number – Percentage Gene/Breed This is read as gene/breed #1 was tested against gene/breed #2, resulting in gene/breed #1 total occurrences / and gene/breed #2 total occurrences – meaning when breeding these two genes/breeds together, you have a percentage chance of getting one of the gene/breed. Remember that depending on the total amount of trials for each experiment there is still an amount of experimental variance to the posted percentage, meaning that near-equal chances reported here are likely actually equal. Genes we can assume by this data to be on the same rarity tier include: Clown/Speckle/Tiger and Daub/Current/Eye Spots/Freckle/Stripes, and our collected totals use that rarity similarity to gain a better sense of the actual chance of inheritance when bred with any of these equal-rarity treasure genes. [br] ----- [size=4][b]Genes: Primary[/b][/size] [columns][item=remove gene: primary][nextcol] [b]Basic (Plentiful)[/b] vs Common Treasure Primaries: 2310/990 - 30% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 3663/637 - 15% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 1044/56 - 5% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2479/21 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: clown][nextcol] [b]Clown (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 304/696 - 70% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 1048/1152 - 52% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 2327/773 - 25% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 277/23 - 8% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2082/18 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: falcon][nextcol] [b]Falcon (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 164/336 - 67% Basic vs Common: 247/253 - 51% Common vs Uncommon: 589/215 - 27% Uncommon vs Limited: 448/52 - 10% Limited vs Rare: 495/5 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: piebald][nextcol] [b]Piebald (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 154/346 - 69% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 344/356 - 51% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 1022/378 - 27% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 459/41 - 8% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 792/8 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: savannah][nextcol] [b]Savannah (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 157/343 - 69% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 396/404 - 51% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 589/211 - 26% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 445/55 - 11% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 493/7 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: speckle][nextcol] [b]Speckle (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 297/703 - 70% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 1092/1108 - 50% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 2252/748 - 25% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 275/25 - 8% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2082/18 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Primary Gene: Tapir][nextcol] [b]Tapir (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 165/335 - 67% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 403/497 - 55% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 508/192 - 27% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 459/41 - 8% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 493/7 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: tiger][nextcol] [b]Tiger (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 296/704 - 70% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 1216/1084 - 47% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 2251/749 - 25% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 277/23 - 8% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2079/21 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: bar][nextcol] [b]Bar (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 161/839 - 84% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 919/2581 - 74% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 1042/1058 - 50% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 259/41 - 14% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2058/42 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: cherub][nextcol] [b]Cherub (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 90/610 - 87% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 243/757 - 76% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 607/593 - 49% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 255/45 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 985/15 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: giraffe][nextcol] [b]Giraffe (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 70/430 - 86% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 132/368 - 74% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 290/310 - 52% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 502/98 - 16% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 593/7 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Primary Gene: Jaguar][nextcol] [b]Jaguar (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 15/85 - 85% Basic vs Common: 151/449 - 75% Common vs Uncommon: 286/314 - 52% Uncommon vs Limited: 172/28 - 14% Limited vs Rare: 395/5 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: jupiter][nextcol] [b]Jupiter (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 68/432 - 86% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 170/430 - 72% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 298/312 - 51% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 509/91 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 495/5 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Primary Gene: Python][nextcol] [b]Python[/b] vs Basic: 19/81 - 81% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 155/545 - 78% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 393/407 - 51% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 256/44 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 393/12 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: ripple][nextcol] [b]Ripple (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 160/840 - 84% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 774/2426 - 76% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 1169/1141 - 49% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 341/59 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2063/37 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: vipera][nextcol] [b]Vipera (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 71/429 - 86% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 410/1290 - 76% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 804/796 - 50% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 254/46 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 1079/21 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Primary Gene: Pinstripe][nextcol] [b]Pinstripe (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 36/464 - 93% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 69/631 - 90% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 91/609 - 87% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 236/264 - 53% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 489/11 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: poison][nextcol] [b]Poison (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 34/566 - 94% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 69/831 - 92% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 293/1607 - 85% Uncommon vs Skink: 243/257 - 51% Skink vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 974/26 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: skink][nextcol] [b]Skink (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 22/478 - 96% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 43/457 - 91% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 87/513 - 86% Uncommon vs Poison: 243/257 - 49% Poison vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 480/20 - 4% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: crystal][nextcol] [b]Crystal (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 8/992 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 23/3177 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 66/3434 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 17/283 - 94% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 670/630 - 52% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: iridescent][nextcol] [b]Iridescent (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 8/992 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 35/3265 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 57/3243 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 5/395 - 99% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 606/594 - 49% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: metallic][nextcol] [b]Metallic (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 7/483 - 99% Basic vs Common: 2/498 - 100% Common vs Uncommon: 12/588 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited: 5/495 - 99% Limited vs Rare: 190/210 - 53% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=primary gene: petals][nextcol] [b]Petals (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 5/495 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 5/495 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 4/596 - 99% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 24/776 - 97% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 264/236 - 47% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Primary Gene: Starmap][nextcol] [b]Starmap (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 1/99 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 4/696 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 57/784 - 93% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 8/292 - 97% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 252/248 - 50% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Primary Gene: Wasp][nextcol] [b]Wasp (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 6/494 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Primaries: 8/692 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 10/690 - 99% Uncommon vs Limited Primaries: 18/480 - 96% Limited vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 240/260 - 52% Rare [/columns] [br] ----- [size=4][b]Genes: Secondary[/b][/size] [columns][item=remove gene: secondary][nextcol] [b]Basic (Plentiful)[/b] vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 3837/1763 - 31% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 2127/371 - 15% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 952/48 - 5% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2668/32 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: current][nextcol] [b]Current (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 309/691 - 69% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2208/2292 - 51% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1262/448 - 26% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 175/25 - 12% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2371/29 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: daub][nextcol] [b]Daub (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 320/680 - 68% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2510/2390 - 49% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1320/480 - 27% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 182/18 - 9% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2380/20 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: eye spots][nextcol] [b]Eye spots (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 312/688 - 69% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2281/2219 - 49% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1347/453 - 25% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 173/27 - 13% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2278/22 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: freckle][nextcol] [b]Freckle (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 304/696 - 70% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2248/2252 - 50% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1298/402 - 24% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 182/18 - 9% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2280/20 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: paint][nextcol] [b]Paint (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 117/283 - 71% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 686/714 - 51% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 515/185 - 26% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 267/33 - 11% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 989/11 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: peregrine][nextcol] [b]Peregrine (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 142/358 - 72% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 670/730 - 52% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 546/154 - 22% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 179/21 - 10% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 1091/9 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: safari][nextcol] [b]Safari (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 183/317 - 63% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 630/670 - 52% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 239.76/189 - 44% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 457/43 - 9% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 394/6 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Secondary Gene: Striation][nextcol] [b]Striation (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 59/141 - 71% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 399/401 - 50% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 364/136 - 27% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 449/51 - 10% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 498/2 - 0% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: stripes][nextcol] [b]Stripes (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 343/657 - 66% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2297/2303 - 50% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1261/439 - 26% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 261/39 - 13% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2270/30 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: hex][nextcol] [b]Hex (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 75/425 - 85% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 202/598 - 75% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 309/291 - 49% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 504/96 - 16% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 490/10 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: hypnotic][nextcol] [b]Hypnotic (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 81/419 - 84% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 721/2179 - 75% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 510/490 - 49% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 252/48 - 16% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 1473/27 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Secondary Gene: Morph][nextcol] [b]Morph (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 18/82 - 82% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 225/675 - 75% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 233/267 - 53% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 255/45 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 492/8 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Secondary Gene: Rosette][nextcol] [b]Rosette (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 14/86 - 86% Basic vs Common: 215/585 - 73% Common vs Uncommon: 201/199 - 50% Uncommon vs Limited: 166/34 - 17% Limited vs Rare: 288/12 - 4% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: saturn][nextcol] [b]Saturn (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 74/424 - 85% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 136/564 - 81% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 231/269 - 54% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 593/107 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 487/13 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: seraph][nextcol] [b]Seraph (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 141/859 - 86% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 1484/4216 - 74% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 450/450 - 50% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 425/75 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2264/36 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: spinner][nextcol] [b]Spinner (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 28/472 - 94% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 80/620 - 89% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 75/425 - 85% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 264/236 - 47% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 485/15 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Secondary Gene: Trail][nextcol] [b]Trail (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 14/486 - 97% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 86/814 - 90% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 71/429 - 86% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 259/241 - 48% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 485/15 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: toxin][nextcol] [b]Toxin (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 20/480 - 96% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 101/799 - 89% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 251/1349 - 84% Uncommon vs Spinner: 236/264 - 53% Spinner vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 1164/36 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: alloy][nextcol] [b]Alloy (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 5/495 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 9/991 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 8/591 - 99% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 11/489 - 98% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 247/253 - 51% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Secondary Gene: Bee][nextcol] [b]Bee (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 7/493 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 8/792 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 19/481 - 96% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 16/484 - 97% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 216/184 - 46% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: butterfly][nextcol] [b]Butterfly (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 7/493 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 11/1689 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 29/1071 - 97% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 20/780 - 97% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 403/397 - 50% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: facet][nextcol] [b]Facet (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 10/1190 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 65/6435 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 26/1874 - 99% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 23/577 - 96% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 651/649 - 50% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=secondary gene: shimmer][nextcol] [b]Shimmer (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 15/985 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 65/5345 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 31/1769 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Secondaries: 8/292 - 97% Limited vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 946/954 - 50% Rare [/columns] [br] ----- [size=4][b]Genes: Tertiary[/b][/size] [columns][item=remove gene: tertiary][nextcol] [b]Basic (Plentiful)[/b] vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 1053/477 - 30% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 2775/525 - 16% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 3042/158 - 5% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1976/24 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns] [item=Tertiary Gene: Contour][nextcol][b]Contour (Common)[/b] vs Basic: 149/351 - 70% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 243/257 - 51% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 384/116 - 23% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 538/62 - 10% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 590/10 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Thylacine][nextcol][b]Thylacine (Common)[/b][br]vs Basic: 145/355 - 71% Basic[br]vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 389/411 - 51% Common[br]vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 378/122 - 24% Uncommon[br]vs Limited Tertiaries: 631/69 - 10% Limited[br]vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 889/11 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Underbelly][nextcol][b]Underbelly (Common)[/b][br]vs Basic: 302/698 - 70% Basic[br]vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 368/332 - 47% Common[br]vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 2309/791 - 26% Uncommon[br]vs Limited Tertiaries: 2166/234 - 10% Limited[br]vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1679/21 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: crackle][nextcol] [b]Crackle (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 154/846 - 85% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 299/901 - 75% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 1170/1130 - 49% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 1889/311 - 14% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1662/38 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns] [item=Tertiary Gene: Ghost][nextcol] [b]Ghost (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 70/430 - 86% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 126/374 - 75% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 226/214 - 49% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 498/102 - 17% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 492/8 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns] [item=Tertiary Gene: Lace][nextcol] [b]Lace (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 74/426 - 85% Basic vs Common: 158/442 - 74% Common vs Uncommon: 292/308 - 51% Uncommon vs Limited: 513/87 - 15% Limited vs Rare: 590/10 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: okapi][nextcol] [b]Okapi (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 198/1002 - 84% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 263/837 - 76% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 1157/1143 - 50% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 2028/372 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1580/29 - 1% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: smoke][nextcol] [b]Smoke (Uncommon)[/b] vs Basic: 173/927 - 84% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 351/949 - 73% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 1073/1127 - 51% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 2125//375 - 15% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1571/29 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Capsule][nextcol] [b]Capsule (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 20/480 - 96% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 36/464 - 93% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 73/427 - 85% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 231/269 - 54% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 487/13 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Firefly][nextcol] [b]Firefly (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 66/1734 - 96% Basic vs Common: 39/361 - 90% Common vs Uncommon: 93/507 - 85% Uncommon vs Limited: 299/301 - 50% Limited vs Rare: 487/13 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: gembond][nextcol] [b]Gembond (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 58/942 - 94% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 117/1183 - 91% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 483/2817 - 85% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 649/651 - 50% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1656/44 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Runes][nextcol] [b]Runes (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 23/477 - 95% Basic[br]vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 60/540 - 90% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 80/520 - 87% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 250/250 - 50% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 479/21 - 4% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Scales][nextcol] [b]Scales (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 32/468 - 94% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 61/639 - 91% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 111/589 - 84% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 523/477 - 48% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 685/15 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Smirch][nextcol] [b]Smirch (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 27/473 - 95% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 48/552 - 92% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 81/419 - 84% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 209/191 - 48% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 486/14 - 3% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: spines][nextcol] [b]Spines (Limited)[/b] vs Basic: 54/1046 - 95% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 142/1158 - 89% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 495/2705 - 85% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 701/699 - 50% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1669/31 - 2% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: circuit][nextcol] [b]Circuit (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 17/983 - 98% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 16/1184 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 51/3249 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 50/2250 - 98% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 376/424 - 53% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Filigree][nextcol] [b]Filigree (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 1/99 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 2/98 - 98% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 2/98 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 2/98 - 98% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 100/99 - 50% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: glimmer][nextcol] [b]Glimmer (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 2/398 - 100% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 6/794 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 23/977 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 26/874- 97% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 372/328 - 47% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=Tertiary Gene: Opal][nextcol] [b]Opal (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 4/496 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 5/695 - 99% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 17/883 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 14/586 - 98% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 256/244 - 49% Rare [/columns] [columns][item=tertiary gene: stained][nextcol] [b]Stained (Rare)[/b] vs Basic: 4/496 - 99% Basic vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 8/492 - 98% Common vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 9/491 - 98% Uncommon vs Limited Tertiaries: 20/680 - 97% Limited vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 252/248 - 50% Rare [/columns] [br] ----- [size=4][b]Breeds[/b][/size] [columns][item=Breed Change: Fae][nextcol][b]Fae (Plentiful)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 535/564 - 51% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 486/216 - 31% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 252/48 - 16% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 288/12 - 4% Limited[br]vs Rare: 296/4 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Guardian][nextcol][b]Guardian (Plentiful)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 355/345 - 49% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 356/144 - 29% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 259/41 - 14% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 290/10 - 3% Limited[br]vs Rare: 198/2 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Mirror][nextcol][b]Mirror (Plentiful)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 142/158 - 53% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 639/261 - 29% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 419/81 - 16% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 189/11 - 6% Limited[br]vs Rare: 197/3 - 2% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Tundra][nextcol][b]Tundra (Plentiful)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 367/332 - 47% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 859/341 - 28% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 519/81 - 14% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 189/11 - 6% Limited[br]vs Rare: 592/8 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Pearlcatcher][nextcol][b]Pearlcatcher (Common)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 281/619 - 69% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 142/158 - 53% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 702/198 - 22% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 710/90 - 11% Limited[br]vs Rare: 198/2 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Ridgeback][nextcol][b]Ridgeback (Common)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 261/639 - 71% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 255/245 - 49% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 295/105 - 26% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 267/33 - 11% Limited[br]vs Rare: 199/1 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Snapper][nextcol][b]Snapper (Common)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 157/345 - 69% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 211/189 - 47% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 149/51 - 26% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 357/43 - 11% Limited[br]vs Rare: 199/1 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Spiral][nextcol][b]Spiral (Common)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 278/722 - 72% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 292/308 - 51% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 512/188 - 27% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 271/29 - 10% Limited[br]vs Rare: 196/4 - 2% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Bogsneak][nextcol][b]Bogsneak (Uncommon)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 83/417 - 83% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 221/779 - 78% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 267/233 - 47% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 405/95 - 19% Limited[br]vs Rare: 493/7 - 1% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Skydancer][nextcol][b]Skydancer (Uncommon)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 168/1032 - 86% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 321/879 - 73% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 233/267 - 53% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 1128/172 - 13% Limited[br]vs Rare: 977/23 - 2% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Imperial][nextcol][b]Imperial (Limited)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 23/377 - 94% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 73/627 - 90% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 52/248 - 83% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 47/53 - 53% Limited[br]vs Rare: 581/19 - 3% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Nocturne][nextcol][b]Nocturne (Limited)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 20/580 - 97% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 122/978 - 89% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 75/325 - 81% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 53/47 - 47% Limited[br]vs Rare: 970/30 - 3% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Coatl][nextcol][b]Coatl (Rare)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 6/494 - 99% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 4/396 - 99% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 7/293 - 98% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 1/99 - 99% Limited[br]vs Rare: 53/47 - 47% Rare[/columns] [columns][item=Breed Change: Wildclaw][nextcol][b]Wildclaw (Rare)[/b][br]vs Plentiful: 11/789 - 99% Plentiful[br]vs Common: 4/396 - 99% Common[br]vs Uncommon: 4/396 - 99% Uncommon[br]vs Limited: 24/576 - 96% Limited[br]vs Rare: 47/53 - 53% Rare[/columns] [br] ----- Thanks to all the contributors of the last two threads - JessDwarf, Myracuulous, Antagonist, Morigale, heist, Fayd, lightningnymph, Monk, atroposhears, Elviril, Scyllarus, Niao, Naien, Mudkip, Boonys, bardicartist, Fincher, Dawnshadow, Synthy, cyphercat, Solar, PeaceColby, welosttheribs, DAGRON, Kaishun, Tyeth, TheFuzz, Koushudai, tyloncorp, Dimidiata, Silvain, Sedakari, Traise, Thorachu, raelet, Sparrowlicious, Culex, famousfolly, miirshroom, Ryuukishin, Cluttermouse, allthingsnice, Toxxynne, Jalorda, theAbby, OverTheWolf, SlainCane, Seamelle, AdeleneDawner, Jayminae, shampug, Corrina, Before, SFFCorgi, TheAtomicBon, Nayafen, Kaytara, Maki, IrisAya, secretstars, Mignonne, Kiena, Jamethyst, ltstarbuck, blaireau, Toska, Cassolotl, Rattlecat, obscuresoul, Kanagosa, Sylvandyr, & JDBeckett. Thanks to the contributors of this thread - AdeleneDawner, Before, Deolmyx, FelisAries, friesiVF13, gootarts, JDBeckett, shinykari, Stormhawke, & YamiTheDragon

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Summary of Test Results

This post is just going to summarise genes/breeds against various tiers, as otherwise it's quite unwieldy. A link to a document with more comprehensive information will be put up when i'm done getting it in order.

The information collected is on the frequency of gene and breed inheritance through each possible pairing and is presented in the format below:

Gene/breed #1 vs gene/breed #2: Number / Number – Percentage Gene/Breed

This is read as gene/breed #1 was tested against gene/breed #2, resulting in gene/breed #1 total occurrences / and gene/breed #2 total occurrences – meaning when breeding these two genes/breeds together, you have a percentage chance of getting one of the gene/breed.

Remember that depending on the total amount of trials for each experiment there is still an amount of experimental variance to the posted percentage, meaning that near-equal chances reported here are likely actually equal. Genes we can assume by this data to be on the same rarity tier include: Clown/Speckle/Tiger and Daub/Current/Eye Spots/Freckle/Stripes, and our collected totals use that rarity similarity to gain a better sense of the actual chance of inheritance when bred with any of these equal-rarity treasure genes.



Genes: Primary
Basic (Plentiful)
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 2310/990 - 30% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 3663/637 - 15% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 1044/56 - 5% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2479/21 - 1% Rare
Clown (Common)
vs Basic: 304/696 - 70% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 1048/1152 - 52% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 2327/773 - 25% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 277/23 - 8% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2082/18 - 1% Rare
Falcon (Common)
vs Basic: 164/336 - 67% Basic
vs Common: 247/253 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon: 589/215 - 27% Uncommon
vs Limited: 448/52 - 10% Limited
vs Rare: 495/5 - 1% Rare
Piebald (Common)
vs Basic: 154/346 - 69% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 344/356 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 1022/378 - 27% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 459/41 - 8% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 792/8 - 1% Rare
Savannah (Common)
vs Basic: 157/343 - 69% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 396/404 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 589/211 - 26% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 445/55 - 11% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 493/7 - 1% Rare
Speckle (Common)
vs Basic: 297/703 - 70% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 1092/1108 - 50% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 2252/748 - 25% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 275/25 - 8% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2082/18 - 1% Rare
Tapir (Common)
vs Basic: 165/335 - 67% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 403/497 - 55% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 508/192 - 27% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 459/41 - 8% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 493/7 - 1% Rare
Tiger (Common)
vs Basic: 296/704 - 70% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 1216/1084 - 47% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 2251/749 - 25% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 277/23 - 8% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2079/21 - 1% Rare
Bar (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 161/839 - 84% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 919/2581 - 74% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 1042/1058 - 50% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 259/41 - 14% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2058/42 - 2% Rare
Cherub (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 90/610 - 87% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 243/757 - 76% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 607/593 - 49% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 255/45 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 985/15 - 1% Rare
Giraffe (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 70/430 - 86% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 132/368 - 74% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 290/310 - 52% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 502/98 - 16% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 593/7 - 1% Rare
Jaguar (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 15/85 - 85% Basic
vs Common: 151/449 - 75% Common
vs Uncommon: 286/314 - 52% Uncommon
vs Limited: 172/28 - 14% Limited
vs Rare: 395/5 - 1% Rare
Jupiter (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 68/432 - 86% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 170/430 - 72% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 298/312 - 51% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 509/91 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 495/5 - 1% Rare
Python
vs Basic: 19/81 - 81% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 155/545 - 78% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 393/407 - 51% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 256/44 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 393/12 - 3% Rare
Ripple (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 160/840 - 84% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 774/2426 - 76% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 1169/1141 - 49% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 341/59 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 2063/37 - 2% Rare
Vipera (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 71/429 - 86% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 410/1290 - 76% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 804/796 - 50% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 254/46 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 1079/21 - 2% Rare
Pinstripe (Limited)
vs Basic: 36/464 - 93% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 69/631 - 90% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 91/609 - 87% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 236/264 - 53% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 489/11 - 2% Rare
Poison (Limited)
vs Basic: 34/566 - 94% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 69/831 - 92% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 293/1607 - 85% Uncommon
vs Skink: 243/257 - 51% Skink
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 974/26 - 3% Rare
Skink (Limited)
vs Basic: 22/478 - 96% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 43/457 - 91% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 87/513 - 86% Uncommon
vs Poison: 243/257 - 49% Poison
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 480/20 - 4% Rare
Crystal (Rare)
vs Basic: 8/992 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 23/3177 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 66/3434 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 17/283 - 94% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 670/630 - 52% Rare
Iridescent (Rare)
vs Basic: 8/992 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 35/3265 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 57/3243 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 5/395 - 99% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 606/594 - 49% Rare
Metallic (Rare)
vs Basic: 7/483 - 99% Basic
vs Common: 2/498 - 100% Common
vs Uncommon: 12/588 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited: 5/495 - 99% Limited
vs Rare: 190/210 - 53% Rare
Petals (Rare)
vs Basic: 5/495 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 5/495 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 4/596 - 99% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 24/776 - 97% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 264/236 - 47% Rare
Starmap (Rare)
vs Basic: 1/99 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 4/696 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 57/784 - 93% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 8/292 - 97% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 252/248 - 50% Rare
Wasp (Rare)
vs Basic: 6/494 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Primaries: 8/692 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Primaries: 10/690 - 99% Uncommon
vs Limited Primaries: 18/480 - 96% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Primaries: 240/260 - 52% Rare



Genes: Secondary
Basic (Plentiful)
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 3837/1763 - 31% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 2127/371 - 15% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 952/48 - 5% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2668/32 - 1% Rare
Current (Common)
vs Basic: 309/691 - 69% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2208/2292 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1262/448 - 26% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 175/25 - 12% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2371/29 - 1% Rare
Daub (Common)
vs Basic: 320/680 - 68% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2510/2390 - 49% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1320/480 - 27% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 182/18 - 9% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2380/20 - 1% Rare
Eye spots (Common)
vs Basic: 312/688 - 69% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2281/2219 - 49% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1347/453 - 25% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 173/27 - 13% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2278/22 - 1% Rare
Freckle (Common)
vs Basic: 304/696 - 70% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2248/2252 - 50% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1298/402 - 24% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 182/18 - 9% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2280/20 - 1% Rare
Paint (Common)
vs Basic: 117/283 - 71% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 686/714 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 515/185 - 26% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 267/33 - 11% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 989/11 - 1% Rare
Peregrine (Common)
vs Basic: 142/358 - 72% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 670/730 - 52% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 546/154 - 22% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 179/21 - 10% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 1091/9 - 1% Rare
Safari (Common)
vs Basic: 183/317 - 63% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 630/670 - 52% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 239.76/189 - 44% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 457/43 - 9% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 394/6 - 2% Rare
Striation (Common)
vs Basic: 59/141 - 71% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 399/401 - 50% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 364/136 - 27% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 449/51 - 10% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 498/2 - 0% Rare
Stripes (Common)
vs Basic: 343/657 - 66% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 2297/2303 - 50% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 1261/439 - 26% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 261/39 - 13% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2270/30 - 1% Rare
Hex (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 75/425 - 85% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 202/598 - 75% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 309/291 - 49% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 504/96 - 16% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 490/10 - 2% Rare
Hypnotic (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 81/419 - 84% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 721/2179 - 75% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 510/490 - 49% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 252/48 - 16% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 1473/27 - 2% Rare
Morph (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 18/82 - 82% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 225/675 - 75% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 233/267 - 53% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 255/45 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 492/8 - 2% Rare
Rosette (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 14/86 - 86% Basic
vs Common: 215/585 - 73% Common
vs Uncommon: 201/199 - 50% Uncommon
vs Limited: 166/34 - 17% Limited
vs Rare: 288/12 - 4% Rare
Saturn (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 74/424 - 85% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 136/564 - 81% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 231/269 - 54% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 593/107 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 487/13 - 3% Rare
Seraph (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 141/859 - 86% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 1484/4216 - 74% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 450/450 - 50% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 425/75 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 2264/36 - 2% Rare
Spinner (Limited)
vs Basic: 28/472 - 94% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 80/620 - 89% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 75/425 - 85% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 264/236 - 47% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 485/15 - 3% Rare
Trail (Limited)
vs Basic: 14/486 - 97% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 86/814 - 90% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 71/429 - 86% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 259/241 - 48% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 485/15 - 3% Rare
Toxin (Limited)
vs Basic: 20/480 - 96% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 101/799 - 89% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 251/1349 - 84% Uncommon
vs Spinner: 236/264 - 53% Spinner
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 1164/36 - 3% Rare
Alloy (Rare)
vs Basic: 5/495 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 9/991 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 8/591 - 99% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 11/489 - 98% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 247/253 - 51% Rare
Bee (Rare)
vs Basic: 7/493 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 8/792 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 19/481 - 96% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 16/484 - 97% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 216/184 - 46% Rare
Butterfly (Rare)
vs Basic: 7/493 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 11/1689 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 29/1071 - 97% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 20/780 - 97% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 403/397 - 50% Rare
Facet (Rare)
vs Basic: 10/1190 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 65/6435 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 26/1874 - 99% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 23/577 - 96% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 651/649 - 50% Rare
Shimmer (Rare)
vs Basic: 15/985 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Secondaries: 65/5345 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Secondaries: 31/1769 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Secondaries: 8/292 - 97% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Secondaries: 946/954 - 50% Rare



Genes: Tertiary
Basic (Plentiful)
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 1053/477 - 30% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 2775/525 - 16% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 3042/158 - 5% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1976/24 - 1% Rare
Contour (Common)
vs Basic: 149/351 - 70% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 243/257 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 384/116 - 23% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 538/62 - 10% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 590/10 - 2% Rare
Thylacine (Common)
vs Basic: 145/355 - 71% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 389/411 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 378/122 - 24% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 631/69 - 10% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 889/11 - 1% Rare
Underbelly (Common)
vs Basic: 302/698 - 70% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 368/332 - 47% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 2309/791 - 26% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 2166/234 - 10% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1679/21 - 1% Rare
Crackle (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 154/846 - 85% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 299/901 - 75% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 1170/1130 - 49% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 1889/311 - 14% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1662/38 - 2% Rare
Ghost (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 70/430 - 86% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 126/374 - 75% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 226/214 - 49% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 498/102 - 17% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 492/8 - 2% Rare
Lace (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 74/426 - 85% Basic
vs Common: 158/442 - 74% Common
vs Uncommon: 292/308 - 51% Uncommon
vs Limited: 513/87 - 15% Limited
vs Rare: 590/10 - 2% Rare
Okapi (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 198/1002 - 84% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 263/837 - 76% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 1157/1143 - 50% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 2028/372 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1580/29 - 1% Rare
Smoke (Uncommon)
vs Basic: 173/927 - 84% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 351/949 - 73% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 1073/1127 - 51% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 2125//375 - 15% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1571/29 - 2% Rare
Capsule (Limited)
vs Basic: 20/480 - 96% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 36/464 - 93% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 73/427 - 85% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 231/269 - 54% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 487/13 - 3% Rare
Firefly (Limited)
vs Basic: 66/1734 - 96% Basic
vs Common: 39/361 - 90% Common
vs Uncommon: 93/507 - 85% Uncommon
vs Limited: 299/301 - 50% Limited
vs Rare: 487/13 - 3% Rare
Gembond (Limited)
vs Basic: 58/942 - 94% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 117/1183 - 91% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 483/2817 - 85% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 649/651 - 50% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1656/44 - 3% Rare
Runes (Limited)
vs Basic: 23/477 - 95% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 60/540 - 90% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 80/520 - 87% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 250/250 - 50% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 479/21 - 4% Rare
Scales (Limited)
vs Basic: 32/468 - 94% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 61/639 - 91% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 111/589 - 84% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 523/477 - 48% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 685/15 - 2% Rare
Smirch (Limited)
vs Basic: 27/473 - 95% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 48/552 - 92% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 81/419 - 84% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 209/191 - 48% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 486/14 - 3% Rare
Spines (Limited)
vs Basic: 54/1046 - 95% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 142/1158 - 89% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 495/2705 - 85% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 701/699 - 50% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 1669/31 - 2% Rare
Circuit (Rare)
vs Basic: 17/983 - 98% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 16/1184 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 51/3249 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 50/2250 - 98% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 376/424 - 53% Rare
Filigree (Rare)
vs Basic: 1/99 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 2/98 - 98% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 2/98 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 2/98 - 98% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 100/99 - 50% Rare
Glimmer (Rare)
vs Basic: 2/398 - 100% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 6/794 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 23/977 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 26/874- 97% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 372/328 - 47% Rare
Opal (Rare)
vs Basic: 4/496 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 5/695 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 17/883 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 14/586 - 98% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 256/244 - 49% Rare
Stained (Rare)
vs Basic: 4/496 - 99% Basic
vs Common Treasure Tertiaries: 8/492 - 98% Common
vs Uncommon Treasure Tertiaries: 9/491 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited Tertiaries: 20/680 - 97% Limited
vs Rare/Gem Tertiaries: 252/248 - 50% Rare



Breeds
Fae (Plentiful)
vs Plentiful: 535/564 - 51% Plentiful
vs Common: 486/216 - 31% Common
vs Uncommon: 252/48 - 16% Uncommon
vs Limited: 288/12 - 4% Limited
vs Rare: 296/4 - 1% Rare
Guardian (Plentiful)
vs Plentiful: 355/345 - 49% Plentiful
vs Common: 356/144 - 29% Common
vs Uncommon: 259/41 - 14% Uncommon
vs Limited: 290/10 - 3% Limited
vs Rare: 198/2 - 1% Rare
Mirror (Plentiful)
vs Plentiful: 142/158 - 53% Plentiful
vs Common: 639/261 - 29% Common
vs Uncommon: 419/81 - 16% Uncommon
vs Limited: 189/11 - 6% Limited
vs Rare: 197/3 - 2% Rare
Tundra (Plentiful)
vs Plentiful: 367/332 - 47% Plentiful
vs Common: 859/341 - 28% Common
vs Uncommon: 519/81 - 14% Uncommon
vs Limited: 189/11 - 6% Limited
vs Rare: 592/8 - 1% Rare
Pearlcatcher (Common)
vs Plentiful: 281/619 - 69% Plentiful
vs Common: 142/158 - 53% Common
vs Uncommon: 702/198 - 22% Uncommon
vs Limited: 710/90 - 11% Limited
vs Rare: 198/2 - 1% Rare
Ridgeback (Common)
vs Plentiful: 261/639 - 71% Plentiful
vs Common: 255/245 - 49% Common
vs Uncommon: 295/105 - 26% Uncommon
vs Limited: 267/33 - 11% Limited
vs Rare: 199/1 - 1% Rare
Snapper (Common)
vs Plentiful: 157/345 - 69% Plentiful
vs Common: 211/189 - 47% Common
vs Uncommon: 149/51 - 26% Uncommon
vs Limited: 357/43 - 11% Limited
vs Rare: 199/1 - 1% Rare
Spiral (Common)
vs Plentiful: 278/722 - 72% Plentiful
vs Common: 292/308 - 51% Common
vs Uncommon: 512/188 - 27% Uncommon
vs Limited: 271/29 - 10% Limited
vs Rare: 196/4 - 2% Rare
Bogsneak (Uncommon)
vs Plentiful: 83/417 - 83% Plentiful
vs Common: 221/779 - 78% Common
vs Uncommon: 267/233 - 47% Uncommon
vs Limited: 405/95 - 19% Limited
vs Rare: 493/7 - 1% Rare
Skydancer (Uncommon)
vs Plentiful: 168/1032 - 86% Plentiful
vs Common: 321/879 - 73% Common
vs Uncommon: 233/267 - 53% Uncommon
vs Limited: 1128/172 - 13% Limited
vs Rare: 977/23 - 2% Rare
Imperial (Limited)
vs Plentiful: 23/377 - 94% Plentiful
vs Common: 73/627 - 90% Common
vs Uncommon: 52/248 - 83% Uncommon
vs Limited: 47/53 - 53% Limited
vs Rare: 581/19 - 3% Rare
Nocturne (Limited)
vs Plentiful: 20/580 - 97% Plentiful
vs Common: 122/978 - 89% Common
vs Uncommon: 75/325 - 81% Uncommon
vs Limited: 53/47 - 47% Limited
vs Rare: 970/30 - 3% Rare
Coatl (Rare)
vs Plentiful: 6/494 - 99% Plentiful
vs Common: 4/396 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon: 7/293 - 98% Uncommon
vs Limited: 1/99 - 99% Limited
vs Rare: 53/47 - 47% Rare
Wildclaw (Rare)
vs Plentiful: 11/789 - 99% Plentiful
vs Common: 4/396 - 99% Common
vs Uncommon: 4/396 - 99% Uncommon
vs Limited: 24/576 - 96% Limited
vs Rare: 47/53 - 53% Rare



Thanks to all the contributors of the last two threads - JessDwarf, Myracuulous, Antagonist, Morigale, heist, Fayd, lightningnymph, Monk, atroposhears, Elviril, Scyllarus, Niao, Naien, Mudkip, Boonys, bardicartist, Fincher, Dawnshadow, Synthy, cyphercat, Solar, PeaceColby, welosttheribs, DAGRON, Kaishun, Tyeth, TheFuzz, Koushudai, tyloncorp, Dimidiata, Silvain, Sedakari, Traise, Thorachu, raelet, Sparrowlicious, Culex, famousfolly, miirshroom, Ryuukishin, Cluttermouse, allthingsnice, Toxxynne, Jalorda, theAbby, OverTheWolf, SlainCane, Seamelle, AdeleneDawner, Jayminae, shampug, Corrina, Before, SFFCorgi, TheAtomicBon, Nayafen, Kaytara, Maki, IrisAya, secretstars, Mignonne, Kiena, Jamethyst, ltstarbuck, blaireau, Toska, Cassolotl, Rattlecat, obscuresoul, Kanagosa, Sylvandyr, & JDBeckett.

Thanks to the contributors of this thread - AdeleneDawner, Before, Deolmyx, FelisAries, friesiVF13, gootarts, JDBeckett, shinykari, Stormhawke, & YamiTheDragon
[center][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#1584487]Intro/New Genes/General Info[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158509]Test Results[/url] | FAQs | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158519]Ping List[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158527]Test Dragons[/url][/center] [size=5][b]Frequently Asked Questions[/b][/size] [b]Didn't Iridescent and Shimmer have a higher chance to show up against treasure genes/basic in the past?[/b] They did! However, that was a bug - they were on the Limited tier instead of the Rare tier, where they belonged. The admins realized this when they added Crystal and Iridescent didn't have a 50/50 chance against it. They fixed it at that time, and all three genes (as well as the newer gem genes) are now properly Rare tier. [b]Why are Bar/Ripple listed as Uncommon genes and Daub/Current listed as Common? Shouldn't they be the same rarity, like other primary/secondary genes meant to go together?[/b] [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/1286497/3#post_8163646]Apparently not:[/url] [quote=Aequorin] [quote]I am really curious as to why Ripple and Bar have different rarity values when breeding than their secondary counterparts Current and Daub?[/quote] Because they are not in the same zone, having them be equal chance to be passed on is not an issue; we could decide on an individual basis how we wanted them to compete with existing genes for similar zones.[/quote] It seems gene sets [i]usually[/i] end up on the same rarity level, but ultimately it's not guaranteed and Bar/Current/Daub/Ripple is an intentional example of that. [b]Are Ridgebacks and Pearlcatchers on the same rarity tier as Snappers and Spirals? The other two cost more![/b] Yes, they're all listed as Common breeds in the encyclopedia. Snappers and Spirals were Kickstarter stretch goals - that's likely why they cost a bit more. You can see from the following tests that all appear to have an approximately 50% chance against each other. Ridgeback vs Snapper: 47/53 - 47% Ridgeback Ridgeback vs Spiral: 50/50 - 50% Spiral Pearlcatcher vs Snapper: 52/48 - 48% Snapper Pearlcatcher vs Spiral: 56/44 - 44% Spiral Pearlcatcher & Ridgeback vs Snapper & Spiral: 205/195 - 49% Snapper & Spiral [b]What about Wildclaws and Coatls?[/b] Yes, the testing shows these are equal as well. Additionally, they are actually the same price when the scrolls are in the gem marketplace - 2000 gems. Coatl vs Wildclaw: 53/47 - 47% Wildclaw [b]Nocturnes and Imperials?[/b] Yes, again. With all this data, we can assume that all breeds on the same tier will have a 50/50 chance. Imperial vs Nocturne: 47/53 - 47% Imperial [b]Do you want more data?[/b] Sure! Preferably in groups of 100. That will allow for some nice even numbers. I'd especially be interested in help once new genes/breeds come out, or things that have very few results (such as rare breed tests). We don't really need more eye spots versus stripes tests, for instance! [b]What assumptions have you used in your testing?[/b] I've assumed that the Forsee Progeny tool in the Scrying Workshop uses the same algorithms and random chance as when a dragon is hatched. All signs point to this being true, but we can't know for 100% certainty until we hear it from a staff member. The use of tiers is technically also an assumption, as staff has never explicitly confirmed it - theoretically, every individual gene could be set to a slightly different rarity which just happen to be in close groupings - but it's implausibly unlikely iridescent and shimmer could have been incorrectly coded on accident if that was the case. Again, thanks to JessDwarf/Kiena for the wording of the majority of the above FAQ.

Frequently Asked Questions

Didn't Iridescent and Shimmer have a higher chance to show up against treasure genes/basic in the past?

They did! However, that was a bug - they were on the Limited tier instead of the Rare tier, where they belonged. The admins realized this when they added Crystal and Iridescent didn't have a 50/50 chance against it. They fixed it at that time, and all three genes (as well as the newer gem genes) are now properly Rare tier.

Why are Bar/Ripple listed as Uncommon genes and Daub/Current listed as Common? Shouldn't they be the same rarity, like other primary/secondary genes meant to go together?

Apparently not:
Aequorin wrote:
Quote:
I am really curious as to why Ripple and Bar have different rarity values when breeding than their secondary counterparts Current and Daub?
Because they are not in the same zone, having them be equal chance to be passed on is not an issue; we could decide on an individual basis how we wanted them to compete with existing genes for similar zones.
It seems gene sets usually end up on the same rarity level, but ultimately it's not guaranteed and Bar/Current/Daub/Ripple is an intentional example of that.

Are Ridgebacks and Pearlcatchers on the same rarity tier as Snappers and Spirals? The other two cost more!

Yes, they're all listed as Common breeds in the encyclopedia. Snappers and Spirals were Kickstarter stretch goals - that's likely why they cost a bit more. You can see from the following tests that all appear to have an approximately 50% chance against each other.

Ridgeback vs Snapper: 47/53 - 47% Ridgeback
Ridgeback vs Spiral: 50/50 - 50% Spiral
Pearlcatcher vs Snapper: 52/48 - 48% Snapper
Pearlcatcher vs Spiral: 56/44 - 44% Spiral
Pearlcatcher & Ridgeback vs Snapper & Spiral: 205/195 - 49% Snapper & Spiral

What about Wildclaws and Coatls?

Yes, the testing shows these are equal as well. Additionally, they are actually the same price when the scrolls are in the gem marketplace - 2000 gems.

Coatl vs Wildclaw: 53/47 - 47% Wildclaw

Nocturnes and Imperials?

Yes, again. With all this data, we can assume that all breeds on the same tier will have a 50/50 chance.

Imperial vs Nocturne: 47/53 - 47% Imperial

Do you want more data?

Sure! Preferably in groups of 100. That will allow for some nice even numbers. I'd especially be interested in help once new genes/breeds come out, or things that have very few results (such as rare breed tests). We don't really need more eye spots versus stripes tests, for instance!

What assumptions have you used in your testing?

I've assumed that the Forsee Progeny tool in the Scrying Workshop uses the same algorithms and random chance as when a dragon is hatched. All signs point to this being true, but we can't know for 100% certainty until we hear it from a staff member.

The use of tiers is technically also an assumption, as staff has never explicitly confirmed it - theoretically, every individual gene could be set to a slightly different rarity which just happen to be in close groupings - but it's implausibly unlikely iridescent and shimmer could have been incorrectly coded on accident if that was the case.

Again, thanks to JessDwarf/Kiena for the wording of the majority of the above FAQ.
[center][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#1584487]Intro/New Genes/General Info[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158509]Test Results[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158513]FAQs[/url] | Ping List | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158527]Test Dragons[/url][/center] [size=5][b]Ping List for New Genes/Breeds[/b][/size] Let me know if you want on the list, and i'll send you a ping when we figure out how rare new genes/breeds are. [br] [quote=Current Ping List] [size=2]@Twelvewishes @AthenaMinerva @Xagrathia @haikwoshevo @lunaris1013 @Stormhawke @horocol @Zaratyst @Latigirl @ReluctantPandora @Erawolf132 @TriforceDrag0n @Danerys @MagicalMagpie @valure @SkyDagger @winkatuck @Alestrius @blaireau @PrayingMantis @Natakiro @ShadowRising @NarentiDragon @Dragonisa @Starlight18 @NaiveVaporeon @Allochthon @Kaibaman @NikkiMae @ricci @rochester @Akash @VoxxVoleur @Carsonn @Butterfree @Golldfish @Juulika @Shimiru @Sparrowhawk @savetheshay @CrazyDrDuck @Barrani @Srnb @KameTurtle @Ezzare @Lyricmonster96 @Craneoflores @CEGAMischief @Flurries @BlueAlphyn885 @JenKenobi @Keantha @Catalinabelle @Maltshakes @Tempestris @BlueDragonFire @juncosongs @Septiplier @Parda @merrymercutio @Vancara @BlackMistress @Rileyychan @Merellia @temperama @callmethey @dinkoidsupreme @Evolution2 @iiinvisible @Daarka @nauticalamity @Nihilus @ClockworkOctopus @AkiresaYasonska @Fallenarrow @BardsTale @Droiline @Xephyrus @tassledown @MilanoCookies @Shewolf13 @Kyndrah @KingShadow @Redfern @omn1 @IgnisFlamel @ArashiiNekkyou @kaylavarnell4736 @AntiFerret @CourtneyOlivia @Loona @Aviana @AideanOTurner @Treepunch @Cheeba @Qsq @RustedMeadows @ThomasGrimm @shepardess @Siscily @Hailey12 @CountD @cartilaj @Cryptnoch @butcherbaby @koolkabe @ILUVDRAG0NS @usbdongle @SariStar @DasHoosk @Moorising @99redragons @TammyOShanter @goferu @Starrlight @xarellax @Ellapinky @WrittenDraft @Fizzywits @nevadawolfe @summerpepita @counterklock @Effervessa @Erther @WillOTheWhisk @notcharmed @Chameleacorn @Nekonuko @RiztheHuntress @ZombieRuckus @Ghostifique @Furzeflower @redkestrel25 @Ariizumi @owlisholive @chloewei @oli @IraBell @Wolfspear @SoggyBread @DrakeFrost @heartcrusher1 @TheRedOriginal @Kingdomville @EternalFlame @Evilie @NinjaPoulet @Nudelholzx3 @Gewlduh @ReyFairchild @SakuraAngel @Jellybean7124 @Disillusionist @Raccoongirl @Winterdreary @PTMason @Puellafortis @GreylightS @WildOrchid @Gilbunny @Shaide @Syceris @RiseOfTheDead @FaraliCrystal @AxiAqui @Teliact @iamthegirraffe @Starglade @Tues @gemwest @Unownsender @pixiejen @aeternumxvale @ItchyBuffalo @Withypol @KittyPlague @venassir @vibrantBoredom @Ravenpool @Jaycee @mgp1 @DalekTzet @Novalore @Gamer @TomatoLabyrinth @JessKnight @Zaharawolfkin @jadeturtle13 @ChaosAngel @StarlitOblivion @Wardove @Alfadarkwolf @monilip @Jaspernoir @KirinHybrid @Aoji @KalicoKat @xXobsidianskyXx @Pinguin @crombinatorrjr @joojoojoojoon @GrumpyLocks @Saiav @PoeticPursuits @Darkmoonbreeder @buckyybarnes @CrushinU @SnowMewPlays @Peyp @CyberWolf7 @MayZippy @Weresocks @Dimness @SolarFlicker @Micciz @Sapheera @IraBell @Alithium8 @VictoriousLight @BetaArt @Vizion236 @KatyFirebird @RaneInSpane @TypicalKelpie @TMaireTameran @Malk @KonohaKokonose @ssjgirl @Phoenixfall @TheRebelWolf @LusinArisea @FrostedCold @Aurene @TripleShot @Syrax96 @InfectiousSneeze @TheElfDruid [/size][/quote]

Ping List for New Genes/Breeds

Let me know if you want on the list, and i'll send you a ping when we figure out how rare new genes/breeds are.

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[center][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#1584487]Intro/New Genes/General Info | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158509]Test Results[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158513]FAQs[/url] | [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1584487#14158519]Ping List[/url] | Test Dragons[/center] [size=5][b]Test Dragons[/b][/size] These are the dragons i use for preliminary testing, posted in case anyone else wants to try some quick 'n dirty testing of new genes and breeds. Pop a dragon with the new gene in one side of [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?p=scrying&view=progeny]Scrying Workshop > Foresee Progeny[/url] and one of the lovely lab assistants in the other, hit Preview a couple dozen times, and check the percentage of times the lab-dragon's genes come up to get a decent idea of how the genes are weighted. Dragon breeding is random enough you probably won't get the [i]exact[/i] numbers listed, but it'll help you make an educated guess. I recommend using Alan/the Uncommon dragon if you're only going to test with one, unless the new breed/gene is in the gem marketplace. Thus far all the gem scrolls have been Rare, so if you're bothering to test gem genes at all you may as well go straight for Henry and confirm a 50/50 test whereas if you test with Alan (...or any non-gem-gened dragon) the results will be too low in the single digits to be meaningful. It's unlikely another Plentiful breed/gene is going to be released without staff [i]announcing[/i] they're Plentiful, as Plentifuls come from unhatched elemental eggs and more options there would be a literal game-changer, so Lex shouldn't come up 50/50 with anything new. Testing Common/Uncommon/Limited against an Uncommonly-gened dragon gives the largest difference and is less likely to end up being mistaken for a different tier of gene if the generator goes on a weird streak. [br] ----- [columns] [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=31591807] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/315919/31591807.png[/img] [/url] [b]Plentiful: Lex[/b] 31591807[br] guardian/basic/basic/basic[br] Plentiful: 50% Common: 70% Uncommon: 85% Limited: 97% Rare: 99% [nextcol] [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=32926758] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/329268/32926758.png[/img] [/url] [b]Common: Ian[/b] 32926758[br] spiral/speckle/freckle/contour[br] Plentiful: 30% Common: 50% Uncommon: 75% Limited: 90% Rare: 99% [nextcol] [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=38779314] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/387794/38779314.png[/img] [/url] [b]Uncommon: Alan[/b] 38779314[br] skydancer/giraffe/hex/okapi[br] Plentiful: 15% Common: 25% Uncommon: 50% Limited: 85% Rare: 98% [nextcol] [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=31516691] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/315167/31516691.png[/img] [/url] [b]Limited: Ellie[/b] 31516691[br] imperial/skink/spinner/runes[br] Plentiful: 3% Common: 10% Uncommon: 15% Limited: 50% Rare: 97% [nextcol] [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=31460431] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/314605/31460431.png[/img] [/url] [b]Rare: Henry[/b] 31460431[br] coatl/crystal/facet/glimmer[br] Plentiful: 1% Common: 1% Uncommon: 2% Limited: 3% Rare: 50% [/columns]

Test Dragons

These are the dragons i use for preliminary testing, posted in case anyone else wants to try some quick 'n dirty testing of new genes and breeds. Pop a dragon with the new gene in one side of Scrying Workshop > Foresee Progeny and one of the lovely lab assistants in the other, hit Preview a couple dozen times, and check the percentage of times the lab-dragon's genes come up to get a decent idea of how the genes are weighted. Dragon breeding is random enough you probably won't get the exact numbers listed, but it'll help you make an educated guess.

I recommend using Alan/the Uncommon dragon if you're only going to test with one, unless the new breed/gene is in the gem marketplace. Thus far all the gem scrolls have been Rare, so if you're bothering to test gem genes at all you may as well go straight for Henry and confirm a 50/50 test whereas if you test with Alan (...or any non-gem-gened dragon) the results will be too low in the single digits to be meaningful. It's unlikely another Plentiful breed/gene is going to be released without staff announcing they're Plentiful, as Plentifuls come from unhatched elemental eggs and more options there would be a literal game-changer, so Lex shouldn't come up 50/50 with anything new. Testing Common/Uncommon/Limited against an Uncommonly-gened dragon gives the largest difference and is less likely to end up being mistaken for a different tier of gene if the generator goes on a weird streak.



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Plentiful: Lex 31591807

guardian/basic/basic/basic

Plentiful: 50%
Common: 70%
Uncommon: 85%
Limited: 97%
Rare: 99%

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Common: Ian 32926758

spiral/speckle/freckle/contour

Plentiful: 30%
Common: 50%
Uncommon: 75%
Limited: 90%
Rare: 99%

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Uncommon: Alan 38779314

skydancer/giraffe/hex/okapi

Plentiful: 15%
Common: 25%
Uncommon: 50%
Limited: 85%
Rare: 98%

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Limited: Ellie 31516691

imperial/skink/spinner/runes

Plentiful: 3%
Common: 10%
Uncommon: 15%
Limited: 50%
Rare: 97%

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Rare: Henry 31460431

coatl/crystal/facet/glimmer

Plentiful: 1%
Common: 1%
Uncommon: 2%
Limited: 3%
Rare: 50%
@Straif Hiya, can I be pinged for new stuffs xx
@Straif Hiya, can I be pinged for new stuffs xx
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I rent out my maxed out Baldwin for free ;)

I rent out my Arcane nests, you can reserve a day for your pair
@Straif ^^ Pinglist request please
@Straif ^^ Pinglist request please
@Straif

I'd love to be on the ping list.
@Straif

I'd love to be on the ping list.
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@Straif

Thank you for picking this up! I would like to be added to the pinglist please.
@Straif

Thank you for picking this up! I would like to be added to the pinglist please.

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@Straif Thank you for taking this over! I'd like to be on your pinglist, please.
@Straif Thank you for taking this over! I'd like to be on your pinglist, please.
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