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[quote name="Fr0stB3rry" date=2017-11-21 09:30:22] [quote name="ezratb" date=2017-11-06 09:09:09] [quote name="EarthTiger" date=2017-10-29 19:50:03] A betta-fish inspired secondary gene! Betta fish can have so many patterns on their lovely fins! Here are a few ideas I have, using photos of my friend's bettas (note the bettas don't live in cups, they live in tanks. The cups are used for photo taking). Name Ideas: Betta, Fish, Bicolour [img]https://i.imgur.com/EnP3lfN.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/Rd9dNSi.jpg[/img] As you can see, the fins are two colours - one colour on the outside, black or white, and another colour on the inside. This pattern is called butterfly, but since there's already a butterfly gene on site, I used other name ideas. I was thinking the inside of the dragon's wings (and mane/frills/feathers, if present) would be the base colour (Azure, Crimson, Purple, etc) while the outside is some shade of black or white (the white and black range colours could then have the outside colour be the opposite - White would have a black outer edge, and Obsidian would have a white outer edge). Sometimes the difference is crisp, like on the first image, or it is a transition, like in the second image. Another idea I have is a bit more simple, and potentially too similar to other secondary genes. [img]https://i.imgur.com/LfHotB7.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/hZAoy6X.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/E7a0S7G.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/Hyh0sQg.jpg[/img] There's the base colour (black and red on these fish), and then another, shiny colour over top, in streaks and dashes, and sometimes making spot patterns. It's a little plain, but I think it can be quite pretty. As you can see, usually the top fin has almost nothing but the "accent" colour, and then the tail has the streaks, while the anal fin has the least/no "accent" colour. I think this could make for some interesting varience from breed-to-breed. @EarthTiger pinging myself to add images later of the mock up genes [/quote] yES!! [/quote] I would love this *^* ) [/quote] YES! So beautiful!
Fr0stB3rry wrote on 2017-11-21:
ezratb wrote on 2017-11-06:
EarthTiger wrote on 2017-10-29:
A betta-fish inspired secondary gene!

Betta fish can have so many patterns on their lovely fins! Here are a few ideas I have, using photos of my friend's bettas (note the bettas don't live in cups, they live in tanks. The cups are used for photo taking).

Name Ideas: Betta, Fish, Bicolour

EnP3lfN.jpg
Rd9dNSi.jpg
As you can see, the fins are two colours - one colour on the outside, black or white, and another colour on the inside. This pattern is called butterfly, but since there's already a butterfly gene on site, I used other name ideas. I was thinking the inside of the dragon's wings (and mane/frills/feathers, if present) would be the base colour (Azure, Crimson, Purple, etc) while the outside is some shade of black or white (the white and black range colours could then have the outside colour be the opposite - White would have a black outer edge, and Obsidian would have a white outer edge). Sometimes the difference is crisp, like on the first image, or it is a transition, like in the second image.

Another idea I have is a bit more simple, and potentially too similar to other secondary genes.
LfHotB7.jpg
hZAoy6X.jpg
E7a0S7G.jpg
Hyh0sQg.jpg
There's the base colour (black and red on these fish), and then another, shiny colour over top, in streaks and dashes, and sometimes making spot patterns. It's a little plain, but I think it can be quite pretty. As you can see, usually the top fin has almost nothing but the "accent" colour, and then the tail has the streaks, while the anal fin has the least/no "accent" colour. I think this could make for some interesting varience from breed-to-breed.

@EarthTiger pinging myself to add images later of the mock up genes


yES!!

I would love this *^* )
YES! So beautiful!
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Maybe more gem or mineral based genes? There's a few for tertiary, as gembond and opal (perhaps even glimmer, since that's pretty shiny), though for secondary there's only facet. Maybe something kind've like bee, where it's section-based, but more like gem sections with the different lighting look. Or possibly akin to alloy, where it's go a reflective gem-like surface. That could go really well with opal, it'd look like two minerals growing together!
Maybe more gem or mineral based genes? There's a few for tertiary, as gembond and opal (perhaps even glimmer, since that's pretty shiny), though for secondary there's only facet. Maybe something kind've like bee, where it's section-based, but more like gem sections with the different lighting look. Or possibly akin to alloy, where it's go a reflective gem-like surface. That could go really well with opal, it'd look like two minerals growing together!
The iris flowers have very beautiful colour patterns. Iris siberica [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Siberian_Iris_Iris_sibirica_Top_Side_View_Green_2000px.jpg/800px-Siberian_Iris_Iris_sibirica_Top_Side_View_Green_2000px.jpg[/img] Iris reticulata [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Iris_reticulata.jpg/1280px-Iris_reticulata.jpg[/img]
The iris flowers have very beautiful colour patterns.

Iris siberica
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Iris reticulata
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I would love to see a secondary gene based off of the stars and planets! It's the shame you can only get a galactic look off of skins that cost a lot.
I would love to see a secondary gene based off of the stars and planets! It's the shame you can only get a galactic look off of skins that cost a lot.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/zdmdNcX.jpg[/img] water droplets!!! this would work in every color because the water wouldn't have a color. i second all of the ideas to take patterns from nature, other then just patterns that other animals have. im not a big fan of squiggly lines and geometrically shaped patterns for any of the genes but i see how others like them
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water droplets!!!


this would work in every color because the water wouldn't have a color.

i second all of the ideas to take patterns from nature, other then just patterns that other animals have.

im not a big fan of squiggly lines and geometrically shaped patterns for any of the genes but i see how others like them
A seraph gene revamp. It's nice and I really like the textured look it adds but maybe (I know this is a lot of work) but darkening the line work a bit or just adding something to improve the overall feathery looking feel so it takes away from that accent or skin look. [b]Example[/b] [img]http://flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=84&bodygene=10&breed=4&element=6&gender=1&tert=54&tertgene=5&winggene=5&wings=171&auth=656f1cc846bbd1aeb59b0e3ad0103f6abbf15f59&dummyext=prev.png[/img] The fur and fluff on this particular PC doesn't connect with the secondary gene as it does in others like this: [img]http://flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=84&bodygene=10&breed=4&element=6&gender=1&tert=54&tertgene=5&winggene=12&wings=171&auth=c76689f6f7e75b284307e69cb957290b89b8061d&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]http://flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=84&bodygene=10&breed=4&element=6&gender=1&tert=54&tertgene=5&winggene=19&wings=171&auth=23f0f1f460cd791d185899613525f05b30e7cb79&dummyext=prev.png[/img] I really like the idea and simplicity of the gene. It's one of my favorite, in fact. I love everything bird related. Highlights and more depths to the feathers could do wonders. However, if you'd like to just leave that up to the skin and accent makers, thank you anyways for taking your time to read this~
A seraph gene revamp. It's nice and I really like the textured look it adds but maybe (I know this is a lot of work) but darkening the line work a bit or just adding something to improve the overall feathery looking feel so it takes away from that accent or skin look.

Example
dragon?age=1&body=84&bodygene=10&breed=4&element=6&gender=1&tert=54&tertgene=5&winggene=5&wings=171&auth=656f1cc846bbd1aeb59b0e3ad0103f6abbf15f59&dummyext=prev.png
The fur and fluff on this particular PC doesn't connect with the secondary gene as it does in others like this:

dragon?age=1&body=84&bodygene=10&breed=4&element=6&gender=1&tert=54&tertgene=5&winggene=12&wings=171&auth=c76689f6f7e75b284307e69cb957290b89b8061d&dummyext=prev.png
dragon?age=1&body=84&bodygene=10&breed=4&element=6&gender=1&tert=54&tertgene=5&winggene=19&wings=171&auth=23f0f1f460cd791d185899613525f05b30e7cb79&dummyext=prev.png

I really like the idea and simplicity of the gene. It's one of my favorite, in fact. I love everything bird related. Highlights and more depths to the feathers could do wonders.

However, if you'd like to just leave that up to the skin and accent makers, thank you anyways for taking your time to read this~
I'd love a glowing, bioluminescent looking gene, or set of genes- It could work by darkening the secondary area with a darker version of the secondary colour (Much like how alloy darkens the colour) Then have glowing patterns or dots across the wings that uses a brighter version of the secondary colour. In special cases like radioactive, metals or marigold etc, you could add a gradient colour effect on the glowing pattern. It would work with a lot of the apparel already in FR, would allow people to make alien dragons, or space dragons, or navi avatar dragons, or maybe deep sea dragons Gradient across the glow as inspired by whatever kind of fish this is: [img]https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/IBpehD_-5h8kXlMfiyO_z8Y_p1g=/fit-in/1072x0/https://public-media.smithsonianmag.com/filer/33/16/3316fcb4-cbd8-4101-bd8d-d1f86cfec9ad/08_porichthys.png[/img] [img]http://squid.tepapa.govt.nz/images/gallery/the-deep/article-03/image-01.jpg[/img] Something like this maybe [img]http://iforce.co.nz/i/h1oulk2u.g4y.png[/img]
I'd love a glowing, bioluminescent looking gene, or set of genes-

It could work by darkening the secondary area with a darker version of the secondary colour (Much like how alloy darkens the colour) Then have glowing patterns or dots across the wings that uses a brighter version of the secondary colour. In special cases like radioactive, metals or marigold etc, you could add a gradient colour effect on the glowing pattern. It would work with a lot of the apparel already in FR, would allow people to make alien dragons, or space dragons, or navi avatar dragons, or maybe deep sea dragons

Gradient across the glow as inspired by whatever kind of fish this is:
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Something like this maybe

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Notice how the legs look slightly transparent and sort of like capsule. I think it would make a great gene to match capsule, it could be called glass or something c: [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/e4/61/c2e4611f2e7717695421ad68f08de943.jpg[/img]
Notice how the legs look slightly transparent and sort of like capsule.
I think it would make a great gene to match capsule, it could be called glass or something c:

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Now, I'm very bad at describing it, but did you ever see the Sirenix Wings? Beautiful and shiny. [img]https://i2.wp.com/www.unadinoi-winx.com/fee/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/winx-club-saison-5-images-sirenix-5eme-poses_4298217-XL.jpg[/img] [img]https://img00.deviantart.net/9b30/i/2016/231/6/f/winx_club_sirenix_1_by_lab_pro-daeh606.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/db/99/83db991cab1da77c823d581d261e7890.jpg[/img] Now, to the questions.... [quote]Would the gene work in all 177 colors?[/quote] Yes, indeed. Now, let's have a look at the color wheel and Poison and Toxin. While I do not know the exact ratios of the "second" colors, the idea would be to either add or subtract 1/4 of the collor wheel (=44 colors) for a "secondary" color. Let's have a closer look at the wings first. 5 colors can be spotted as the important colors. 1: The most part of the wing itself, which could be the secondary color itself. 2: The second most part of the wing itself, which could be the horn color. 3: The outer "Glitter-ring", which could be the color + 44 (or other way around) 4: The inner "Glitter-ring", which could be the color - 44 (or other way around) 5: Glitter basically. While it isn't really visible anyway, the wings could be a bit transparent as well. Or, also possible to make it even fancier, can you notice the color transition? You could just add or subtract two to five different colors of the wheel to get a transition. [quote]How well would the gene mix-and-match with existing primary genes?[/quote] While it would be something quite new, since two of the colors exist already, it would probably match quite well. The glitter would match Glimmer quite well and in my opinion, glitter is always a good thing. [quote]Would the gene look good across all breeds of dragon?[/quote] I don't see a reason why not. While one might argue about it being problematic with the mane or other "secondary secondary" parts, simply the color #1 or color #3 could be taken. [quote]Are there any line art edits involved?[/quote] While I'm not really familiar with linearts, there'd have to be made the two rings. [quote]Is the gene different enough from existing genes that it warrants being made?[/quote] Definitely. Completely different, to be exact.
Now, I'm very bad at describing it, but did you ever see the Sirenix Wings?
Beautiful and shiny.
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winx_club_sirenix_1_by_lab_pro-daeh606.jpg
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Now, to the questions....
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Would the gene work in all 177 colors?
Yes, indeed. Now, let's have a look at the color wheel and Poison and Toxin.
While I do not know the exact ratios of the "second" colors, the idea would be to either add or subtract 1/4 of the collor wheel (=44 colors) for a "secondary" color.
Let's have a closer look at the wings first. 5 colors can be spotted as the important colors.
1: The most part of the wing itself, which could be the secondary color itself.
2: The second most part of the wing itself, which could be the horn color.
3: The outer "Glitter-ring", which could be the color + 44 (or other way around)
4: The inner "Glitter-ring", which could be the color - 44 (or other way around)
5: Glitter basically.
While it isn't really visible anyway, the wings could be a bit transparent as well.
Or, also possible to make it even fancier, can you notice the color transition? You could just add or subtract two to five different colors of the wheel to get a transition.
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How well would the gene mix-and-match with existing primary genes?
While it would be something quite new, since two of the colors exist already, it would probably match quite well. The glitter would match Glimmer quite well and in my opinion, glitter is always a good thing.
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Would the gene look good across all breeds of dragon?
I don't see a reason why not. While one might argue about it being problematic with the mane or other "secondary secondary" parts, simply the color #1 or color #3 could be taken.
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Are there any line art edits involved?
While I'm not really familiar with linearts, there'd have to be made the two rings.
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Is the gene different enough from existing genes that it warrants being made?
Definitely. Completely different, to be exact.
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[quote name="Hardycat" date="2018-02-14 14:11:50" ] [quote name="PixelSpiral" date="2017-09-21 01:10:17" ] something fractal-y? kinda like the mandelbrot set patterns across the spine and wings (but not using literal mandelbrot set with that [url=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Mandel_zoom_00_mandelbrot_set.jpg/1024px-Mandel_zoom_00_mandelbrot_set.jpg]specific look of it[/url]) it can be very beautiful, can also use accent colors like poitox/skinkspin/petbutt do some images from wikipedia: [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Mandelbrot_set_image.png/1280px-Mandelbrot_set_image.png[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Mandel_zoom_03_seehorse.jpg/1024px-Mandel_zoom_03_seehorse.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Mandel_zoom_09_satellite_head_and_shoulder.jpg/1024px-Mandel_zoom_09_satellite_head_and_shoulder.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Mandel_zoom_11_satellite_double_spiral.jpg/1024px-Mandel_zoom_11_satellite_double_spiral.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Mandelbrot_sequence_new_still.png[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Fractal_01.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Fractal_Crown_of_morgoth2_5600x4200.jpg/1024px-Fractal_Crown_of_morgoth2_5600x4200.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Fractal_Face_of_beauty_5600x4200.jpg/1024px-Fractal_Face_of_beauty_5600x4200.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Fractal_m.tentacle2_5600x4200.jpg/1024px-Fractal_m.tentacle2_5600x4200.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Fractal471763.jpg[/img][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Juliasetsdkpicthist3.jpg[/img] [/quote] Programing would probably be a nightmare but the fractal suggestion on wings with every dragon having a seed fractal that spreads so each pattern would be different. OMG that would be amazing!!!!! [/quote] I saw this in primary and commented there but a secondary or tertiary is really where it belongs.
Hardycat wrote on 2018-02-14 14:11:50:
PixelSpiral wrote on 2017-09-21 01:10:17:
something fractal-y? kinda like the mandelbrot set patterns across the spine and wings (but not using literal mandelbrot set with that specific look of it)
it can be very beautiful, can also use accent colors like poitox/skinkspin/petbutt do
some images from wikipedia:
1280px-Mandelbrot_set_image.png1024px-Mandel_zoom_03_seehorse.jpg1024px-Mandel_zoom_09_satellite_head_and_shoulder.jpg1024px-Mandel_zoom_11_satellite_double_spiral.jpgMandelbrot_sequence_new_still.pngFractal_01.jpg1024px-Fractal_Crown_of_morgoth2_5600x4200.jpg1024px-Fractal_Face_of_beauty_5600x4200.jpg1024px-Fractal_m.tentacle2_5600x4200.jpgFractal471763.jpgJuliasetsdkpicthist3.jpg


Programing would probably be a nightmare but the fractal suggestion on wings with every dragon having a seed fractal that spreads so each pattern would be different. OMG that would be amazing!!!!!

I saw this in primary and commented there but a secondary or tertiary is really where it belongs.
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