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@zona Dang, good luck! That is a worthy project, and the fact that you've already got two is amazing. xD
@zona Dang, good luck! That is a worthy project, and the fact that you've already got two is amazing. xD
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[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/65490868][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/654909/65490868_350.png[/img][/url] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/65599070][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/655991/65599070_350.png[/img][/url] [b][i]Projects complete![/i][/b][/center] Whew, these projects finally laid their last nests and gave me the goal! Really wish that Red/Red/Metals one would take the hint and give me the goal baby already... I am actually going to keep the Red/Blue/White Nocturne's parents, in case others want dragons like her, pretty sure there's a lot of Americans on this site. xD They're the fourth pair of my "Hypothetical Hatchery", and I'd say I almost have enough pairs to open a thread for it... If I ever wanted to, that just sounds like work to maintain. [quote] [columns] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=6&bodygene=9&breed=2&element=7&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=9&tertgene=9&winggene=13&wings=114&auth=5f46102ae955564f35d709a4860c3680d944c54a&dummyext=prev.png[/img][nextcol] [b]DWF wish:[/b] Grey Piebald/Amethyst Butterfly/Black Okapi female Shadow Guardian. Start date: October 18, 2020 [i]Status: Almost finished.[/i] [/columns] [columns] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=132&bodygene=17&breed=12&element=6&eyetype=0&gender=0&tert=168&tertgene=17&winggene=8&wings=132&auth=10286663b8401ad6f4a2a1ca90b945159e18777e&dummyext=prev.png[/img][nextcol] [b]DWF Wish:[/b] Coatl Male with Cerise Metallic/Cerise Facet/Strawberry Opal and not Plague eyes. Start date: December 8, 2020. [i]Status: Breeding requests might do the trick?[/i] [/columns] [/quote] And believe it or not, I did not pick up any new projects. Not yet, anyway. These are not new projects. The first one, I actually forgot to mention last update, probably because it was so small and hidden in the small projects tab, and it is already on its way to completion with a 1 in 8 and a 1 in 4 pair. The second one, I had assigned to myself a while back, and only just heard from the wisher, so have just started it. However, it'll be an interesting one, for I am attempting to get it done with the help of a few breeding requests to start with. Crossing fingers this works out, otherwise it may be a long journey if not! All that being said, I am [i]dying[/i] to start a new project. Though I have two new projects in this update today, neither feel like a new project to me, and... my nesting situation seems to be getting to a manageable level now. I made some serious headway on the Brick/Mulberry/Yellow project now finally, and the insane Steel/Sunset/Turquoise project is a few nests away from getting some critical progress done. It's what's mostly been holding me back from picking up a new project, because there's so many pairs, and at 20 days for a breeding cooldown, I've been up to my ears in Gaolers since I started this project, but it's starting to slow down now. So... hopefully, once I at least get to G2 for the Gaoler project, I can see about a new project!
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Projects complete!

Whew, these projects finally laid their last nests and gave me the goal! Really wish that Red/Red/Metals one would take the hint and give me the goal baby already...

I am actually going to keep the Red/Blue/White Nocturne's parents, in case others want dragons like her, pretty sure there's a lot of Americans on this site. xD They're the fourth pair of my "Hypothetical Hatchery", and I'd say I almost have enough pairs to open a thread for it... If I ever wanted to, that just sounds like work to maintain.
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Grey Piebald/Amethyst Butterfly/Black Okapi female Shadow Guardian.

Start date: October 18, 2020
Status: Almost finished.
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Coatl Male with Cerise Metallic/Cerise Facet/Strawberry Opal and not Plague eyes.

Start date: December 8, 2020.
Status: Breeding requests might do the trick?

And believe it or not, I did not pick up any new projects. Not yet, anyway. These are not new projects. The first one, I actually forgot to mention last update, probably because it was so small and hidden in the small projects tab, and it is already on its way to completion with a 1 in 8 and a 1 in 4 pair.

The second one, I had assigned to myself a while back, and only just heard from the wisher, so have just started it. However, it'll be an interesting one, for I am attempting to get it done with the help of a few breeding requests to start with. Crossing fingers this works out, otherwise it may be a long journey if not!

All that being said, I am dying to start a new project. Though I have two new projects in this update today, neither feel like a new project to me, and... my nesting situation seems to be getting to a manageable level now. I made some serious headway on the Brick/Mulberry/Yellow project now finally, and the insane Steel/Sunset/Turquoise project is a few nests away from getting some critical progress done. It's what's mostly been holding me back from picking up a new project, because there's so many pairs, and at 20 days for a breeding cooldown, I've been up to my ears in Gaolers since I started this project, but it's starting to slow down now. So... hopefully, once I at least get to G2 for the Gaoler project, I can see about a new project!
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PROGRESS ON MY CHILD? what a miricle XD
PROGRESS ON MY CHILD? what a miricle XD
My pronouns are he/him or drae/draer also please click these babs
https://www.deviantart.com/jules2800/gallery/ (art stuff
@Ganondorf

speaking of that. where the heck is your tracking dragon for it . i lost it XD i should have it saved in a tab or something but i dont see it in either of the tabs for the project . i wanted to check what the overall progress was since you said there was progress
@Ganondorf

speaking of that. where the heck is your tracking dragon for it . i lost it XD i should have it saved in a tab or something but i dont see it in either of the tabs for the project . i wanted to check what the overall progress was since you said there was progress
My pronouns are he/him or drae/draer also please click these babs
https://www.deviantart.com/jules2800/gallery/ (art stuff
@zona Oh, the tracking dragon is out on his first nest right now, actually! It's Skip, for now. :P
https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/65173334
@zona Oh, the tracking dragon is out on his first nest right now, actually! It's Skip, for now. :P
https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/65173334
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@Ganondorf Whoops forgot to ping I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but I completely forgot!

As someone who just started a long and torturous journey to tackle 11 (11! What was I thinking?) different projects, I'm full of questions

However, the most important one is: If your project needs a different eye color than your flight's, and you just started, do you need to nest all eggs on that flight, or only when you're near the goal? I didn't see any information about that of the guide, and I don't know if I should've asked that there, but, how does it work?

@Ganondorf Whoops forgot to ping I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but I completely forgot!

As someone who just started a long and torturous journey to tackle 11 (11! What was I thinking?) different projects, I'm full of questions

However, the most important one is: If your project needs a different eye color than your flight's, and you just started, do you need to nest all eggs on that flight, or only when you're near the goal? I didn't see any information about that of the guide, and I don't know if I should've asked that there, but, how does it work?

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@AnguisaThorne, it depends! If you're breeding for genes, and a pair doesn't have a chance for all the genes needed, then you don't need to nest that pair in the right nest, since there's no chance for the right genes anyways.

As for colours, I usually don't bother if the parents have, on average, ranges wider than 10 colours. 10 colours for primary x 10 colours for secondary x 10 colours for tert = 1 in 1000 to nail the colours. Those odds are pretty darn rare, but less than that, and you start getting into fluke baby territory. The worst colour odds I think I've hatched a successful kid from was 1 in ~256, if I remember correctly. It doesn't happen very often at all, but it can. It's up to you if you want to bother with the right nests at that point. Anything less than 1 in 100, however, you will want to get the right eyes for, just in case.

To use Skip as an example, Skip and his partner Warrior are in the phase between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000. Their total odds for right colours, sex, and genes are 1 in 280, so I'm unlikely to get the goal baby from them, but I have nested in Water juuuuust in case.
@AnguisaThorne, it depends! If you're breeding for genes, and a pair doesn't have a chance for all the genes needed, then you don't need to nest that pair in the right nest, since there's no chance for the right genes anyways.

As for colours, I usually don't bother if the parents have, on average, ranges wider than 10 colours. 10 colours for primary x 10 colours for secondary x 10 colours for tert = 1 in 1000 to nail the colours. Those odds are pretty darn rare, but less than that, and you start getting into fluke baby territory. The worst colour odds I think I've hatched a successful kid from was 1 in ~256, if I remember correctly. It doesn't happen very often at all, but it can. It's up to you if you want to bother with the right nests at that point. Anything less than 1 in 100, however, you will want to get the right eyes for, just in case.

To use Skip as an example, Skip and his partner Warrior are in the phase between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000. Their total odds for right colours, sex, and genes are 1 in 280, so I'm unlikely to get the goal baby from them, but I have nested in Water juuuuust in case.
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Currently I have all the genes (and already slapped a smirch on everyone whose tertiary wasn't firefly) but my color range is off the window. I'm breeding a pink/mulberry/white (arcanist's colors! That's what the big project is about) with dragons as far as a cobal/strawberry/white.

In my defense, that boy always gets in the purple or pink spectre, my profile dragon and his relatives are proof of that

I thank the lord this is a Fae project. calculating odds has already destroyed my head

So, if the dragons have the right genes and a closer color range I need to get them in another flight's nests. That sound reasonable, thanks for anwsering my question!
Currently I have all the genes (and already slapped a smirch on everyone whose tertiary wasn't firefly) but my color range is off the window. I'm breeding a pink/mulberry/white (arcanist's colors! That's what the big project is about) with dragons as far as a cobal/strawberry/white.

In my defense, that boy always gets in the purple or pink spectre, my profile dragon and his relatives are proof of that

I thank the lord this is a Fae project. calculating odds has already destroyed my head

So, if the dragons have the right genes and a closer color range I need to get them in another flight's nests. That sound reasonable, thanks for anwsering my question!
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[center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/66876444][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=0&body=62&bodygene=17&breed=12&element=5&eyetype=7&gender=0&tert=140&tertgene=17&winggene=17&wings=62&auth=9c638402f2cebf8a56d3b85e31b114338cb1e5d1&dummyext=prev.png[/img][/url] [b][i]A Legend has been Born... [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/65561014][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/655611/65561014_350.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/66375670][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/663757/66375670_350.png[/img][/url] Oh and I also finished these two as well and completely forgot to say anything about them.[/i][/b][/center] Before I dive into Tony's story, I'll just do a little dance that I got these two ladies done as well! The Guardian was definitely an easy one, just a waiting game for Tangara to return and confirm they wanted her, since I had her ready to go, and off she went! The Gaoler, I had hoped would be easier to do, but as is the nature of RNG, the cards were not on my side for the requested breedings I could do. So, I went with my back-up plan, and since I already had several good dragons to make one half of the final pair, I needed, essentially, half of a 16-start pyramid plan to make the other half, and good thing too, because I remember struggling very much to get all 8 pairs to make the first generation - the pool of dragons for the ancient breeds is very lacking, indeed. Once I had acquired them, it was go time, and I slowly managed to get the project done. I actually, once I have time to sit down and do it, plan to use it as an example in my breeding guide of improvising the pyramid plan and adding breeding requests into the mix. I better do that soon, before I forget the details of the project. ----- Alright, let's discuss the legend himself, Tony. Or rather, he is the sequel to the infamous legend, [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/37681403]Celosia[/url], and that makes him also a legend. Tony is who made me [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/qnc/2689551/1#post_39162195]start this log[/url]. And just like Celosia, leave it to Tony to drag this one out. I started this wish on May 29, 2019. I completed it today, January 25, 2021, just 4 days shy of 20 months. In those 20 months, 37 other breeding projects were completed while I struggled to get Tony. And the lesson learned? Looks can be deceiving. If you asked me before taking this project if it'd be easy or difficult, well, I scoffed and said "easy peasy, there's so many Coatls in that range!" Well, in the range, yes, with variable genes, yes. But when it comes down to specifics... I am actually the first person to have ever bred a [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/search/dragons?page=1&sort=id_asc&name=&exalted=&progen=&breed=12&bodygene=&winggene=&tertgene=&gender=&body=62&wings=62&tert=140&element=&body_range=&wings_range=&tert_range=&age=&rtb=&gen1=&pattern=&id_length=&level_min=&level_max=&eyetype=&hibernal_cooldown_status=&ancient=&named=&hibernal=&silhouette_unlocked=&sort=id_asc&page=1]Red/Red/Metals Coatl[/url]. There he is, alone. (So far.) Just the colours & breed. Not even counting the genes - which were all gem genes and had to be bred in. I will be keeping his parents, as part of the "Hypothetical Hatchery", since they were so darn difficult to get to, as a "just in case" scenario, because I know there are very few dragons truly like them. There are dragons that are close, but if I or anyone else wants something similar to Tony, these two might be their only option, and I want to keep that option open. I've noticed that over the years, the Crimson/Crimson/purple-range has dwindled down to almost nothing being bred anymore, and for the sake of preserving diversity in order to make future dreams easier to achieve, I wish I had kept Celosia's parents, and it's why I still hang onto Rave and Gala, who I have never bred, but I know their colour range was rare, so I want to make sure that if someone wants something close to them, they can help. Heck, even Adra and Vant are a bit of a rarity these days. [center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/58896593][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/588966/58896593.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/61834380][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/618344/61834380.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62189751][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/621898/62189751.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63506872][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/635069/63506872.png[/img][/url][/center] In conclusion... I don't know how to conclude this. I guess I am relieved to tuck this one to bed, finally. Of course, I have more projects on my plate... as I always do. I look forward to sharing the tale of fluff that is the Gaoler project I'm working on, and I look forward to picking up new projects... when I have room... I do have a few new projects I haven't discussed yet, so maybe I'll do that in the next post.
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A Legend has been Born...
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Oh and I also finished these two as well and completely forgot to say anything about them.
Before I dive into Tony's story, I'll just do a little dance that I got these two ladies done as well! The Guardian was definitely an easy one, just a waiting game for Tangara to return and confirm they wanted her, since I had her ready to go, and off she went!

The Gaoler, I had hoped would be easier to do, but as is the nature of RNG, the cards were not on my side for the requested breedings I could do. So, I went with my back-up plan, and since I already had several good dragons to make one half of the final pair, I needed, essentially, half of a 16-start pyramid plan to make the other half, and good thing too, because I remember struggling very much to get all 8 pairs to make the first generation - the pool of dragons for the ancient breeds is very lacking, indeed. Once I had acquired them, it was go time, and I slowly managed to get the project done.

I actually, once I have time to sit down and do it, plan to use it as an example in my breeding guide of improvising the pyramid plan and adding breeding requests into the mix. I better do that soon, before I forget the details of the project.

Alright, let's discuss the legend himself, Tony. Or rather, he is the sequel to the infamous legend, Celosia, and that makes him also a legend. Tony is who made me start this log. And just like Celosia, leave it to Tony to drag this one out.

I started this wish on May 29, 2019. I completed it today, January 25, 2021, just 4 days shy of 20 months. In those 20 months, 37 other breeding projects were completed while I struggled to get Tony.

And the lesson learned? Looks can be deceiving. If you asked me before taking this project if it'd be easy or difficult, well, I scoffed and said "easy peasy, there's so many Coatls in that range!" Well, in the range, yes, with variable genes, yes. But when it comes down to specifics... I am actually the first person to have ever bred a Red/Red/Metals Coatl. There he is, alone. (So far.) Just the colours & breed. Not even counting the genes - which were all gem genes and had to be bred in.

I will be keeping his parents, as part of the "Hypothetical Hatchery", since they were so darn difficult to get to, as a "just in case" scenario, because I know there are very few dragons truly like them. There are dragons that are close, but if I or anyone else wants something similar to Tony, these two might be their only option, and I want to keep that option open. I've noticed that over the years, the Crimson/Crimson/purple-range has dwindled down to almost nothing being bred anymore, and for the sake of preserving diversity in order to make future dreams easier to achieve, I wish I had kept Celosia's parents, and it's why I still hang onto Rave and Gala, who I have never bred, but I know their colour range was rare, so I want to make sure that if someone wants something close to them, they can help. Heck, even Adra and Vant are a bit of a rarity these days.
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In conclusion... I don't know how to conclude this. I guess I am relieved to tuck this one to bed, finally. Of course, I have more projects on my plate... as I always do. I look forward to sharing the tale of fluff that is the Gaoler project I'm working on, and I look forward to picking up new projects... when I have room... I do have a few new projects I haven't discussed yet, so maybe I'll do that in the next post.
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Alright, lesson learned, I need to record my starting dragons if I want to use that project as an example, because looking back to the notes I don't have anymore is not working. I've been putting together the Teal/Rose/Rose Gaoler project on a PSD file to make a sample family tree to showcase mixing requesting breedings and pyramid plans together, and I cannot, for the life of me, find the 8th pair. I guess I'll have to draw the tree with just the 7 pairs, I've done that with a couple of my other examples already. But this time, while I still have my notes... I am going to record all [s]32[/s] [b]34[/b] starting dragons for the Steel/Sunset/Turquoise Gaoler project, since the whole reason for that project was to produce a usable example. So, here we go: [columns][center]Quetzalkith x Zeno [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63950220][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/639503/63950220.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62993454][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/629935/62993454.png[/img][/url] Geneesh x Theta [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63525697][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/635257/63525697.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62586041][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/625861/62586041.png[/img][/url] Kingfisher x PitcherPlant [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/60543214][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/605433/60543214.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63017418][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/630175/63017418.png[/img][/url] Bram x Adalee [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64010444][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/640105/64010444.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/61523691][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/615237/61523691.png[/img][/url] Algae x Ocean [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64454689][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/644547/64454689.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/60221545][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/602216/60221545.png[/img][/url] Samos x Pandora [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/55319009][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/553191/55319009.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63931330][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/639314/63931330.png[/img][/url] Gilded x Skarner [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64000026][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/640001/64000026.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64658483][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/646585/64658483.png[/img][/url] Olfrid x Dia [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62583745][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/625838/62583745.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/52191762][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/521918/52191762.png[/img][/url] [/center] [nextcol][center]Myst x Chain [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64054821][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/640549/64054821.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64038257][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/640383/64038257.png[/img][/url] Dixon x Cricket [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63946741][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/639468/63946741.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/56481708][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/564818/56481708.png[/img][/url] Knight x Sybil [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64184277][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/641843/64184277.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63939515][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/639396/63939515.png[/img][/url] Jade x Hecate [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64060920][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/640610/64060920.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64406133][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/644062/64406133.png[/img][/url] Thresh x Vecosaik [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62970648][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/629707/62970648.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63716410][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/637165/63716410.png[/img][/url] Isildur x Moonbattle [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64582841][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/645829/64582841.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63712858][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/637129/63712858.png[/img][/url] Screwdriver x Casey [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64520563][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/645206/64520563.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/56906117][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/569062/56906117.png[/img][/url] Typic x Lolipop [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64744126][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/647442/64744126.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62036963][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/620370/62036963.png[/img][/url] [/center] [/columns] As well as these two, who stood in for a couple spots in the breeding plans. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/64022069][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/640221/64022069.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63822736][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/638228/63822736.png[/img][/url] Aaaand while I'm at it, I should probably also take notes of the Lemon/Amethyst/Orca project, too. That would be smart. It will also be an example when finished. First, the three "starter" dragons, two from the DWF nursery and one I am borrowing: [center][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/61443045][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/614431/61443045.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/61392677][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/613927/61392677.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/49278179][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/492782/49278179.png[/img][/url][/center] And then, the 8 starter pairs for the project: [columns] [center] Snowbell x Sandshark [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/60728231][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/607283/60728231.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63221390][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/632214/63221390.png[/img][/url] Creamy x Fragrance [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/58748292][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/587483/58748292.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/53769753][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/537698/53769753.png[/img][/url] Labradorite x Arathana [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62898340][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/628984/62898340.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63177545][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/631776/63177545.png[/img][/url] Bael x Raven [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63411781][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/634118/63411781.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62738504][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/627386/62738504.png[/img][/url] [/center] [nextcol] [center] Tamu x Wonder [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63143974][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/631440/63143974.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62706400][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/627065/62706400.png[/img][/url] Prius x Nanette [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63335112][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/633352/63335112.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/61496177][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/614962/61496177.png[/img][/url] Magic x Puff [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/62863385][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/628634/62863385.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/63378182][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/633782/63378182.png[/img][/url] Lucifer x Opus [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/43975813][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/439759/43975813.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/61232254][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/612323/61232254.png[/img][/url] [/center] [/columns] ...Okay, it is a bit of a miracle that I found them all for the Lemon/Amethyst/Orca project, I could have sworn I probably no longer know at least one, if not several of them. But, thankfully, I had just enough of the dragons left remaining in the project that I could track down the original 8 starter pairs. Huzzah, mission complete for today! Enjoy, the wacky and wonderful world of starter pairs, where they look nothing like the goal.
Alright, lesson learned, I need to record my starting dragons if I want to use that project as an example, because looking back to the notes I don't have anymore is not working. I've been putting together the Teal/Rose/Rose Gaoler project on a PSD file to make a sample family tree to showcase mixing requesting breedings and pyramid plans together, and I cannot, for the life of me, find the 8th pair. I guess I'll have to draw the tree with just the 7 pairs, I've done that with a couple of my other examples already.

But this time, while I still have my notes... I am going to record all 32 34 starting dragons for the Steel/Sunset/Turquoise Gaoler project, since the whole reason for that project was to produce a usable example. So, here we go:
Quetzalkith x Zeno
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Geneesh x Theta
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Kingfisher x PitcherPlant
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Bram x Adalee
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Algae x Ocean
64454689.png60221545.png
Samos x Pandora
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Gilded x Skarner
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Olfrid x Dia
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Myst x Chain
64054821.png64038257.png
Dixon x Cricket
63946741.png56481708.png
Knight x Sybil
64184277.png63939515.png
Jade x Hecate
64060920.png64406133.png
Thresh x Vecosaik
62970648.png63716410.png
Isildur x Moonbattle
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Screwdriver x Casey
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Typic x Lolipop
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As well as these two, who stood in for a couple spots in the breeding plans.
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Aaaand while I'm at it, I should probably also take notes of the Lemon/Amethyst/Orca project, too. That would be smart. It will also be an example when finished. First, the three "starter" dragons, two from the DWF nursery and one I am borrowing:
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And then, the 8 starter pairs for the project:
Snowbell x Sandshark
60728231.png63221390.png
Creamy x Fragrance
58748292.png53769753.png
Labradorite x Arathana
62898340.png63177545.png
Bael x Raven
63411781.png62738504.png
Tamu x Wonder
63143974.png62706400.png
Prius x Nanette
63335112.png61496177.png
Magic x Puff
62863385.png63378182.png
Lucifer x Opus
43975813.png61232254.png

...Okay, it is a bit of a miracle that I found them all for the Lemon/Amethyst/Orca project, I could have sworn I probably no longer know at least one, if not several of them. But, thankfully, I had just enough of the dragons left remaining in the project that I could track down the original 8 starter pairs. Huzzah, mission complete for today!

Enjoy, the wacky and wonderful world of starter pairs, where they look nothing like the goal.
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