[quote name="Likewise" date="2024-04-18 09:10:31" ]
I think reducing your criticism to short face vs long face is disingenuous. There's a lot more to shape language than this. Sandsurges and dusthides have the most legitimate case of same face and even then you've got to ignore stuff like eye size, horns, frills, teeth shape, ect. Sandys and dustys have [i]distinctly[/i] different vibes.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=25&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=1&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=b521f99e935a958678d06d85adf1cc6a77770afc&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Curious and pleased to meet you.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=23&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=1&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=89fec1b47b5d914b53f0cf2e3060a3e3a2d5bc75&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Proud and vigilant, perhaps a little vain.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=25&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=0&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=e417ad87ad29b981e41d5229f43af8d8547108bf&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
A goofy, playful little guy.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=23&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=0&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=f85930ac6b5840298b0fa9526ea3af1f73795782&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Powerful, intimidating, and just might be about to wreck your house.
Notice how many more sharp edges the sandsurge design has, how much smaller the eyes are? There's a lot being communicated here that you're simply glossing over.
[/quote]
ok so I'm not arguing here that these dragons evoke the same exact thing every time - I understand in practicality that a sandsurge isn't the same thing as an abberation or whatever. My point is that, for a website largely themed around character creation, it's a bit worrying and disappointing that the past few years have almost entirely erred towards a similar body type that's already very overrepresented in character design on the site. One thin, short faced dragon looking majestic and another thin, short faced dragon looking goofy, or one having smaller eyes that makes it look meaner than another - that doesn't really mean anything to the problem I'm presenting here - a worry that the art direction is taking on a mold that doesn't include a wide variety of body and face shapes, especially since many people, including me, don't personally jell with these specific ones
Let me draw some dragons really quick:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/f86b7872a694e41e17b6214c7fe27517/8ada316c98ded51e-12/s2048x3072/e09edcb5680e06b6b147aae30ba7e025d374a1d4.png[/img]
Here's some guys. They're all kind of different. Maybe one's cute and one's scary. Maybe the guy on the bottom left is more majestic. Some have smaller eyes or bigger nostrils. But they still all kind of fit into one anatomical niche, and if you don't love that category, or if it doesn't fit the character you have in mind for a dragon? tough luck.
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/069f2743ff36544d7bb4e1a03400fc45/8ada316c98ded51e-e1/s2048x3072/f78266ee6f5d701b7ac620bc972f72d2680c383d.png[/img]
Here's some different guys. This time, more people are likely to see a design that they like. Someone who loves frogs or parrots or vultures or really wants a chubby dragon design for a specific character they have in mind will find something here that they didn't find in the first lineup.
But that's not fair, of course, because the guys on top could get some features to better distinguish them:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/6982ed992ee972d998832e251f7414c9/8ada316c98ded51e-0f/s2048x3072/6584a05fe184cb70d2a4d0dd96e825803b190145.png[/img]
Now they're all completely different!
Except, while I don't think they all look identical or communicate the same things, the person who wanted the chubby dragon or really loves parrots [i]isn't going to find that here[/i].
What I'm actually arguing for is /this/:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/5341e58e2b31db9911d3df10003a86c3/8ada316c98ded51e-5a/s2048x3072/52d9fa2971946057d1bacd2453517262ad61a8a6.png[/img]
Sure, sandsurges and auraboas aren't the same thing. I don't think that. But I still would rather see more variety in shape rather than those first guys back to back to back.
Likewise wrote on 2024-04-18 09:10:31:
I think reducing your criticism to short face vs long face is disingenuous. There's a lot more to shape language than this. Sandsurges and dusthides have the most legitimate case of same face and even then you've got to ignore stuff like eye size, horns, frills, teeth shape, ect. Sandys and dustys have
distinctly different vibes.
Curious and pleased to meet you.
Proud and vigilant, perhaps a little vain.
A goofy, playful little guy.
Powerful, intimidating, and just might be about to wreck your house.
Notice how many more sharp edges the sandsurge design has, how much smaller the eyes are? There's a lot being communicated here that you're simply glossing over.
ok so I'm not arguing here that these dragons evoke the same exact thing every time - I understand in practicality that a sandsurge isn't the same thing as an abberation or whatever. My point is that, for a website largely themed around character creation, it's a bit worrying and disappointing that the past few years have almost entirely erred towards a similar body type that's already very overrepresented in character design on the site. One thin, short faced dragon looking majestic and another thin, short faced dragon looking goofy, or one having smaller eyes that makes it look meaner than another - that doesn't really mean anything to the problem I'm presenting here - a worry that the art direction is taking on a mold that doesn't include a wide variety of body and face shapes, especially since many people, including me, don't personally jell with these specific ones
Let me draw some dragons really quick:
Here's some guys. They're all kind of different. Maybe one's cute and one's scary. Maybe the guy on the bottom left is more majestic. Some have smaller eyes or bigger nostrils. But they still all kind of fit into one anatomical niche, and if you don't love that category, or if it doesn't fit the character you have in mind for a dragon? tough luck.
Here's some different guys. This time, more people are likely to see a design that they like. Someone who loves frogs or parrots or vultures or really wants a chubby dragon design for a specific character they have in mind will find something here that they didn't find in the first lineup.
But that's not fair, of course, because the guys on top could get some features to better distinguish them:
Now they're all completely different!
Except, while I don't think they all look identical or communicate the same things, the person who wanted the chubby dragon or really loves parrots
isn't going to find that here.
What I'm actually arguing for is /this/:
Sure, sandsurges and auraboas aren't the same thing. I don't think that. But I still would rather see more variety in shape rather than those first guys back to back to back.
@
sixthdoctor I think you have lovely ideas for dragon shapes. However, considering that the FR team has to work with limited resources to continue to support each and every dragon they release for years to come, I can only imagine that given the huge effort needed to continue to release genes for each dragon (or in the case of modern dragons, create apparel) they have to consider creating dragons that appeal to a wide variety of people. Hence the "generic" look you might be referring to with recent releases.
Edit: Just to add, that's why pet sites like Dragon Cave can afford to release so many dragons that look so different from each other (because they don't have to take into account customization)
@
sixthdoctor I think you have lovely ideas for dragon shapes. However, considering that the FR team has to work with limited resources to continue to support each and every dragon they release for years to come, I can only imagine that given the huge effort needed to continue to release genes for each dragon (or in the case of modern dragons, create apparel) they have to consider creating dragons that appeal to a wide variety of people. Hence the "generic" look you might be referring to with recent releases.
Edit: Just to add, that's why pet sites like Dragon Cave can afford to release so many dragons that look so different from each other (because they don't have to take into account customization)
Okay now THIS is constructive feedback I love to see.
No wonder that Bogsneaks, Ridgeback, Gaoler and Snappers are my fave breeds!!
Okay now THIS is constructive feedback I love to see.
No wonder that Bogsneaks, Ridgeback, Gaoler and Snappers are my fave breeds!!
[quote name="sixthdoctor" date="2024-04-18 11:45:30" ]ok so I'm not arguing here that these dragons evoke the same exact thing every time - I understand in practicality that a sandsurge isn't the same thing as an abberation or whatever. My point is that, for a website largely themed around character creation, it's a bit worrying and disappointing that the past few years have almost entirely erred towards a similar body type that's already very overrepresented in character design on the site. One thin, short faced dragon looking majestic and another thin, short faced dragon looking goofy, or one having smaller eyes that makes it look meaner than another - that doesn't really mean anything to the problem I'm presenting here - a worry that the art direction is taking on a mold that doesn't include a wide variety of body and face shapes, especially since many people, including me, don't personally jell with these specific ones
Let me draw some dragons really quick:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/f86b7872a694e41e17b6214c7fe27517/8ada316c98ded51e-12/s2048x3072/e09edcb5680e06b6b147aae30ba7e025d374a1d4.png[/img]
Here's some guys. They're all kind of different. Maybe one's cute and one's scary. Maybe the guy on the bottom left is more majestic. Some have smaller eyes or bigger nostrils. But they still all kind of fit into one anatomical niche, and if you don't love that category, or if it doesn't fit the character you have in mind for a dragon? tough luck.
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/069f2743ff36544d7bb4e1a03400fc45/8ada316c98ded51e-e1/s2048x3072/f78266ee6f5d701b7ac620bc972f72d2680c383d.png[/img]
Here's some different guys. This time, more people are likely to see a design that they like. Someone who loves frogs or parrots or vultures or really wants a chubby dragon design for a specific character they have in mind will find something here that they didn't find in the first lineup.
But that's not fair, of course, because the guys on top could get some features to better distinguish them:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/6982ed992ee972d998832e251f7414c9/8ada316c98ded51e-0f/s2048x3072/6584a05fe184cb70d2a4d0dd96e825803b190145.png[/img]
Now they're all completely different!
Except, while I don't think they all look identical or communicate the same things, the person who wanted the chubby dragon or really loves parrots [i]isn't going to find that here[/i].
What I'm actually arguing for is /this/:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/5341e58e2b31db9911d3df10003a86c3/8ada316c98ded51e-5a/s2048x3072/52d9fa2971946057d1bacd2453517262ad61a8a6.png[/img]
Sure, sandsurges and auraboas aren't the same thing. I don't think that. But I still would rather see more variety in shape rather than those first guys back to back to back.
[/quote]
Might I suggest you add these drawings to the front page? When I first saw your OP I felt like you were being very unfair to the artists, and I still think it is reductive for the reasons I outlined above, but this post gets your point across much better because you're showing concrete examples of what you [i]do[/i] want. It's a lot more illustrative than showing pictures of animals or HTTYD designs.
I could go on literally forever about all the little things that I feel bring personality and uniqueness to each of the dragons. I think they are more than noodles with varying head sizes. And you know, I like most of FR's dragons, especially our new little guys, so I do have that urge to defend them. I think by only showing red and blue outlines you're kind of inviting people to be defensive about it, where as these examples make it much clearer what you want.
Sorry, I hope that makes sense. I skipped breakfast today and I think my brain is finally starting to short circuit a little.
sixthdoctor wrote on 2024-04-18 11:45:30:
ok so I'm not arguing here that these dragons evoke the same exact thing every time - I understand in practicality that a sandsurge isn't the same thing as an abberation or whatever. My point is that, for a website largely themed around character creation, it's a bit worrying and disappointing that the past few years have almost entirely erred towards a similar body type that's already very overrepresented in character design on the site. One thin, short faced dragon looking majestic and another thin, short faced dragon looking goofy, or one having smaller eyes that makes it look meaner than another - that doesn't really mean anything to the problem I'm presenting here - a worry that the art direction is taking on a mold that doesn't include a wide variety of body and face shapes, especially since many people, including me, don't personally jell with these specific ones
Let me draw some dragons really quick:
Here's some guys. They're all kind of different. Maybe one's cute and one's scary. Maybe the guy on the bottom left is more majestic. Some have smaller eyes or bigger nostrils. But they still all kind of fit into one anatomical niche, and if you don't love that category, or if it doesn't fit the character you have in mind for a dragon? tough luck.
Here's some different guys. This time, more people are likely to see a design that they like. Someone who loves frogs or parrots or vultures or really wants a chubby dragon design for a specific character they have in mind will find something here that they didn't find in the first lineup.
But that's not fair, of course, because the guys on top could get some features to better distinguish them:
Now they're all completely different!
Except, while I don't think they all look identical or communicate the same things, the person who wanted the chubby dragon or really loves parrots
isn't going to find that here.
What I'm actually arguing for is /this/:
Sure, sandsurges and auraboas aren't the same thing. I don't think that. But I still would rather see more variety in shape rather than those first guys back to back to back.
Might I suggest you add these drawings to the front page? When I first saw your OP I felt like you were being very unfair to the artists, and I still think it is reductive for the reasons I outlined above, but this post gets your point across much better because you're showing concrete examples of what you
do want. It's a lot more illustrative than showing pictures of animals or HTTYD designs.
I could go on literally forever about all the little things that I feel bring personality and uniqueness to each of the dragons. I think they are more than noodles with varying head sizes. And you know, I like most of FR's dragons, especially our new little guys, so I do have that urge to defend them. I think by only showing red and blue outlines you're kind of inviting people to be defensive about it, where as these examples make it much clearer what you want.
Sorry, I hope that makes sense. I skipped breakfast today and I think my brain is finally starting to short circuit a little.
[quote name="sixthdoctor" date="2024-04-18 11:45:30" ]
[quote name="Likewise" date="2024-04-18 09:10:31" ]
I think reducing your criticism to short face vs long face is disingenuous. There's a lot more to shape language than this. Sandsurges and dusthides have the most legitimate case of same face and even then you've got to ignore stuff like eye size, horns, frills, teeth shape, ect. Sandys and dustys have [i]distinctly[/i] different vibes.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=25&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=1&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=b521f99e935a958678d06d85adf1cc6a77770afc&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Curious and pleased to meet you.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=23&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=1&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=89fec1b47b5d914b53f0cf2e3060a3e3a2d5bc75&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Proud and vigilant, perhaps a little vain.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=25&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=0&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=e417ad87ad29b981e41d5229f43af8d8547108bf&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
A goofy, playful little guy.
[img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=23&element=2&eyetype=13&gender=0&tert=6&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=2&auth=f85930ac6b5840298b0fa9526ea3af1f73795782&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Powerful, intimidating, and just might be about to wreck your house.
Notice how many more sharp edges the sandsurge design has, how much smaller the eyes are? There's a lot being communicated here that you're simply glossing over.
[/quote]
ok so I'm not arguing here that these dragons evoke the same exact thing every time - I understand in practicality that a sandsurge isn't the same thing as an abberation or whatever. My point is that, for a website largely themed around character creation, it's a bit worrying and disappointing that the past few years have almost entirely erred towards a similar body type that's already very overrepresented in character design on the site. One thin, short faced dragon looking majestic and another thin, short faced dragon looking goofy, or one having smaller eyes that makes it look meaner than another - that doesn't really mean anything to the problem I'm presenting here - a worry that the art direction is taking on a mold that doesn't include a wide variety of body and face shapes, especially since many people, including me, don't personally jell with these specific ones
Let me draw some dragons really quick:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/f86b7872a694e41e17b6214c7fe27517/8ada316c98ded51e-12/s2048x3072/e09edcb5680e06b6b147aae30ba7e025d374a1d4.png[/img]
Here's some guys. They're all kind of different. Maybe one's cute and one's scary. Maybe the guy on the bottom left is more majestic. Some have smaller eyes or bigger nostrils. But they still all kind of fit into one anatomical niche, and if you don't love that category, or if it doesn't fit the character you have in mind for a dragon? tough luck.
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/069f2743ff36544d7bb4e1a03400fc45/8ada316c98ded51e-e1/s2048x3072/f78266ee6f5d701b7ac620bc972f72d2680c383d.png[/img]
Here's some different guys. This time, more people are likely to see a design that they like. Someone who loves frogs or parrots or vultures or really wants a chubby dragon design for a specific character they have in mind will find something here that they didn't find in the first lineup.
But that's not fair, of course, because the guys on top could get some features to better distinguish them:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/6982ed992ee972d998832e251f7414c9/8ada316c98ded51e-0f/s2048x3072/6584a05fe184cb70d2a4d0dd96e825803b190145.png[/img]
Now they're all completely different!
Except, while I don't think they all look identical or communicate the same things, the person who wanted the chubby dragon or really loves parrots [i]isn't going to find that here[/i].
What I'm actually arguing for is /this/:
[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/5341e58e2b31db9911d3df10003a86c3/8ada316c98ded51e-5a/s2048x3072/52d9fa2971946057d1bacd2453517262ad61a8a6.png[/img]
Sure, sandsurges and auraboas aren't the same thing. I don't think that. But I still would rather see more variety in shape rather than those first guys back to back to back.
[/quote]
Spectacular, spotless, I love everything about this!! Would love a breed with a face like the top right face of the last picture.
sixthdoctor wrote on 2024-04-18 11:45:30:
Likewise wrote on 2024-04-18 09:10:31:
I think reducing your criticism to short face vs long face is disingenuous. There's a lot more to shape language than this. Sandsurges and dusthides have the most legitimate case of same face and even then you've got to ignore stuff like eye size, horns, frills, teeth shape, ect. Sandys and dustys have
distinctly different vibes.
Curious and pleased to meet you.
Proud and vigilant, perhaps a little vain.
A goofy, playful little guy.
Powerful, intimidating, and just might be about to wreck your house.
Notice how many more sharp edges the sandsurge design has, how much smaller the eyes are? There's a lot being communicated here that you're simply glossing over.
ok so I'm not arguing here that these dragons evoke the same exact thing every time - I understand in practicality that a sandsurge isn't the same thing as an abberation or whatever. My point is that, for a website largely themed around character creation, it's a bit worrying and disappointing that the past few years have almost entirely erred towards a similar body type that's already very overrepresented in character design on the site. One thin, short faced dragon looking majestic and another thin, short faced dragon looking goofy, or one having smaller eyes that makes it look meaner than another - that doesn't really mean anything to the problem I'm presenting here - a worry that the art direction is taking on a mold that doesn't include a wide variety of body and face shapes, especially since many people, including me, don't personally jell with these specific ones
Let me draw some dragons really quick:
Here's some guys. They're all kind of different. Maybe one's cute and one's scary. Maybe the guy on the bottom left is more majestic. Some have smaller eyes or bigger nostrils. But they still all kind of fit into one anatomical niche, and if you don't love that category, or if it doesn't fit the character you have in mind for a dragon? tough luck.
Here's some different guys. This time, more people are likely to see a design that they like. Someone who loves frogs or parrots or vultures or really wants a chubby dragon design for a specific character they have in mind will find something here that they didn't find in the first lineup.
But that's not fair, of course, because the guys on top could get some features to better distinguish them:
Now they're all completely different!
Except, while I don't think they all look identical or communicate the same things, the person who wanted the chubby dragon or really loves parrots
isn't going to find that here.
What I'm actually arguing for is /this/:
Sure, sandsurges and auraboas aren't the same thing. I don't think that. But I still would rather see more variety in shape rather than those first guys back to back to back.
Spectacular, spotless, I love everything about this!! Would love a breed with a face like the top right face of the last picture.
[quote name="eeep" date="2024-04-18 12:07:55" ]
@sixthdoctor I think you have lovely ideas for dragon shapes. However, considering that the FR team has to work with limited resources to continue to support each and every dragon they release for years to come, I can only imagine that given the huge effort needed to continue to release genes for each dragon (or in the case of modern dragons, create apparel) they have to consider creating dragons that appeal to a wide variety of people. Hence the "generic" look you might be referring to with recent releases.
Edit: Just to add, that's why pet sites like Dragon Cave can afford to release so many dragons that look so different from each other (because they don't have to take into account customization)
[/quote]
Yeah that's actually my worry - that in the interest of making every dragon as appealing as possible, they've defaulted to one specific sort of design. I feel like even if you wanted to make all the dragons maximally appealing to a lot of people there's still a lot of variation not being tapped into here - after all, many people will find most or all of these pretty cool:
[img]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91t-KjmAx9L._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_DpWeblab_.jpg[/img]
I understand that it's a lot of effort and you want to come up with something that people will generally like, but I'm just not sure giving a dragon, say, a gar mouth or an eagle beak is going to be that risky.
eeep wrote on 2024-04-18 12:07:55:
@
sixthdoctor I think you have lovely ideas for dragon shapes. However, considering that the FR team has to work with limited resources to continue to support each and every dragon they release for years to come, I can only imagine that given the huge effort needed to continue to release genes for each dragon (or in the case of modern dragons, create apparel) they have to consider creating dragons that appeal to a wide variety of people. Hence the "generic" look you might be referring to with recent releases.
Edit: Just to add, that's why pet sites like Dragon Cave can afford to release so many dragons that look so different from each other (because they don't have to take into account customization)
Yeah that's actually my worry - that in the interest of making every dragon as appealing as possible, they've defaulted to one specific sort of design. I feel like even if you wanted to make all the dragons maximally appealing to a lot of people there's still a lot of variation not being tapped into here - after all, many people will find most or all of these pretty cool:
I understand that it's a lot of effort and you want to come up with something that people will generally like, but I'm just not sure giving a dragon, say, a gar mouth or an eagle beak is going to be that risky.
Worst part is the wind and light ancient will 100 % be skinny and graceful too :((
All I'm hoping for is a longer snout...
Worst part is the wind and light ancient will 100 % be skinny and graceful too :((
All I'm hoping for is a longer snout...
[quote name="sixthdoctor" date="2024-04-18 12:33:58" ]
[quote name="eeep" date="2024-04-18 12:07:55" ]
sixthdoctor I think you have lovely ideas for dragon shapes. However, considering that the FR team has to work with limited resources to continue to support each and every dragon they release for years to come, I can only imagine that given the huge effort needed to continue to release genes for each dragon (or in the case of modern dragons, create apparel) they have to consider creating dragons that appeal to a wide variety of people. Hence the "generic" look you might be referring to with recent releases.
Edit: Just to add, that's why pet sites like Dragon Cave can afford to release so many dragons that look so different from each other (because they don't have to take into account customization)
[/quote]
Yeah that's actually my worry - that in the interest of making every dragon as appealing as possible, they've defaulted to one specific sort of design. I feel like even if you wanted to make all the dragons maximally appealing to a lot of people there's still a lot of variation not being tapped into here - after all, many people will find most or all of these pretty cool:
[img]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91t-KjmAx9L._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_DpWeblab_.jpg[/img]
I understand that it's a lot of effort and you want to come up with something that people will generally like, but I'm just not sure giving a dragon, say, a gar mouth or an eagle beak is going to be that risky.
[/quote]
I will say, however, that Auraboa faces are very unique when compared with other dragons on FR. I actually have a hard time liking Auraboas because their faces look so much like bush vipers to me, but I can appreciate that FR decided to release something that looks very much like a bush viper instead of another, perhaps more generic facial structure.
sixthdoctor wrote on 2024-04-18 12:33:58:
eeep wrote on 2024-04-18 12:07:55:
sixthdoctor I think you have lovely ideas for dragon shapes. However, considering that the FR team has to work with limited resources to continue to support each and every dragon they release for years to come, I can only imagine that given the huge effort needed to continue to release genes for each dragon (or in the case of modern dragons, create apparel) they have to consider creating dragons that appeal to a wide variety of people. Hence the "generic" look you might be referring to with recent releases.
Edit: Just to add, that's why pet sites like Dragon Cave can afford to release so many dragons that look so different from each other (because they don't have to take into account customization)
Yeah that's actually my worry - that in the interest of making every dragon as appealing as possible, they've defaulted to one specific sort of design. I feel like even if you wanted to make all the dragons maximally appealing to a lot of people there's still a lot of variation not being tapped into here - after all, many people will find most or all of these pretty cool:
I understand that it's a lot of effort and you want to come up with something that people will generally like, but I'm just not sure giving a dragon, say, a gar mouth or an eagle beak is going to be that risky.
I will say, however, that Auraboa faces are very unique when compared with other dragons on FR. I actually have a hard time liking Auraboas because their faces look so much like bush vipers to me, but I can appreciate that FR decided to release something that looks very much like a bush viper instead of another, perhaps more generic facial structure.
Just scribbling around on the female snapper psd, I don't think the "lack of room" for linebreaking terts is much of a good excuse against fat ancients. Sure, it might not make for the best silhoutte, but there's still plenty of space to draw the gene. Another thing they could do is make the dragon a bit smaller on the canvas, giving more room on the edges for line breakers.
Just scribbling around on the female snapper psd, I don't think the "lack of room" for linebreaking terts is much of a good excuse against fat ancients. Sure, it might not make for the best silhoutte, but there's still plenty of space to draw the gene. Another thing they could do is make the dragon a bit smaller on the canvas, giving more room on the edges for line breakers.
I agree wholeheartedly, we can afford to have more diverse body types/shapes for ancients. Especially since they can't wear apparel anyway, so the art team doesn't need to worry about clothes looking absurd on them (not that this is even a proper excuse, because they managed to make clothes work for Snappers just fine)
I agree wholeheartedly, we can afford to have more diverse body types/shapes for ancients. Especially since they can't wear apparel anyway, so the art team doesn't need to worry about clothes looking absurd on them (not that this is even a proper excuse, because they managed to make clothes work for Snappers just fine)
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