The Sandsurges are gorgeous - just looking at the default art itself, not even with all the scrying I'm about to do - and I'm excited about the confirmation of Nature getting its second breed this year! I'm hoping for another Dustcarve Dig kind of situation, but no matter what since it's a gameplay and/or treasure release, I'll be able to hopefully get a lot of them so I can have actual Nature breeds in my Nature flight lair.
I appreciate the care FR staff is taking with regard to understanding the precedents that are set with your schedule and releases, and being able to publicly acknowledge and clearly describe those precedents! Now that we're at 2 gem ancients, we have a pattern to learn from and anticipate in the future -- so I'll have to be prepared with more materials in order to brew those time-limited familiars! Thank you for your consistent attempts to manage expectations, and your willingness to adapt your communications to help us all be clear on what's coming up. I really love that the surprises on FR tend to be the details of the changes or the content, and not the fact that there will be changes and updates.
I'm not sure that you will see or respond to this and I do intend these questions as mostly rhetorical (though I know the new release threads are monitored pretty closely, so who knows) but I did see the precedent of 2 gameplay/treasure dragon breed releases per year mentioned, with only breeds released in addition to those 2 being eligible to be gem exclusive -- but does this mean we've established a precedent for 2+ new breeds per year, each year? Is this something that will become a baseline expectation on the site? New content is very exciting, of course, and what I think of as a fairly short time between big releases like this is honestly thrilling - but is that a sustainable amount of labor for the FR team? I'm presuming so, otherwise you wouldn't have been so clear about it, but -- wow! That's a lot of work, and if you're managing to do that much, plus all the refactoring, without pushing the team into crunch or unmanageable loads, you are the champions of organizing and output. That seems like such a lot (to me at least - no art or web dev skills here though) and it's so exciting that y'all are in a place to do that.
This is so much more than I ever would have asked from a site that was wonderful even before all the work that's been done since I joined in 2017. In fact, I don't think I can take all this consistent excitement - are you sure y'all don't want to slow things down? (Joking!) I love how the consistency of releases - for breeds and genes and apparel, for everything - means that even if something is not my vibe, there's a very good chance there'll be something I can be over-the-top happy about like THESE COOL DRAGONS who will hopefully support unionization in the eventual expansion of their story. Even if several releases in a row were 'not for me' it's still so exciting that this site is recieving so much work and love from such a dedicated team and player base.
edit to add:
this is the best commentary on gem vs mp breeds that I've seen, and as pleased as I am with the site (and as much as I don't think my interest in slower releases is a popular or majority opinion) - I do think this is an interesting take and hope it's considered, even if ultimately dismissed, among the team. I've previously been unbothered by gem MP ancients, and if asked I would have said I'd rather have ancients be gem MP than moderns - but I do see how there could be an artificially slow release of gem ancients onto the AH vs with moderns, considering the cost of re-geneing, and that is an understandable cause of frustration to the userbase. I still feel positively about it, but I did want to note and highlight both in general and for my future reference that this is a valuable perspective to consider - it lessens my own bias or dismissiveness towards those expressing frustration in this thread.
I appreciate the care FR staff is taking with regard to understanding the precedents that are set with your schedule and releases, and being able to publicly acknowledge and clearly describe those precedents! Now that we're at 2 gem ancients, we have a pattern to learn from and anticipate in the future -- so I'll have to be prepared with more materials in order to brew those time-limited familiars! Thank you for your consistent attempts to manage expectations, and your willingness to adapt your communications to help us all be clear on what's coming up. I really love that the surprises on FR tend to be the details of the changes or the content, and not the fact that there will be changes and updates.
I'm not sure that you will see or respond to this and I do intend these questions as mostly rhetorical (though I know the new release threads are monitored pretty closely, so who knows) but I did see the precedent of 2 gameplay/treasure dragon breed releases per year mentioned, with only breeds released in addition to those 2 being eligible to be gem exclusive -- but does this mean we've established a precedent for 2+ new breeds per year, each year? Is this something that will become a baseline expectation on the site? New content is very exciting, of course, and what I think of as a fairly short time between big releases like this is honestly thrilling - but is that a sustainable amount of labor for the FR team? I'm presuming so, otherwise you wouldn't have been so clear about it, but -- wow! That's a lot of work, and if you're managing to do that much, plus all the refactoring, without pushing the team into crunch or unmanageable loads, you are the champions of organizing and output. That seems like such a lot (to me at least - no art or web dev skills here though) and it's so exciting that y'all are in a place to do that.
This is so much more than I ever would have asked from a site that was wonderful even before all the work that's been done since I joined in 2017. In fact, I don't think I can take all this consistent excitement - are you sure y'all don't want to slow things down? (Joking!) I love how the consistency of releases - for breeds and genes and apparel, for everything - means that even if something is not my vibe, there's a very good chance there'll be something I can be over-the-top happy about like THESE COOL DRAGONS who will hopefully support unionization in the eventual expansion of their story. Even if several releases in a row were 'not for me' it's still so exciting that this site is recieving so much work and love from such a dedicated team and player base.
edit to add:
this is the best commentary on gem vs mp breeds that I've seen, and as pleased as I am with the site (and as much as I don't think my interest in slower releases is a popular or majority opinion) - I do think this is an interesting take and hope it's considered, even if ultimately dismissed, among the team. I've previously been unbothered by gem MP ancients, and if asked I would have said I'd rather have ancients be gem MP than moderns - but I do see how there could be an artificially slow release of gem ancients onto the AH vs with moderns, considering the cost of re-geneing, and that is an understandable cause of frustration to the userbase. I still feel positively about it, but I did want to note and highlight both in general and for my future reference that this is a valuable perspective to consider - it lessens my own bias or dismissiveness towards those expressing frustration in this thread.
Spacestorm wrote on 2023-07-19 15:27:08:
Ancient breeds are really limited, they can only breed within their own species, have limited gene pools (especially on release), cannot wear accessories and most of the time, skins can look odd when mixed with certain tertiary genes. They also all have the same breeding cooldown, so adding "rarity" to them feels really odd, when they all function the same.
With ancient breeds, putting them behind a paywall makes the users buy twice as much in order to get them ready to breed. Not including the fact you have to purchase twice as many gene scrolls for traits, cause changing the breed will remove all current traits from the dragon.
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I feel like if yall want to make gem breeds, stick to modern ones. They'd feel way more worth it due to not having the restrictions the ancient breeds have! We'd get to play with accessories and we'd even only have to get 1 gene scroll (and we'd also keep the traits iirc, never used a modern scroll) and even then, unless you'd breed with a coatl or wildclaw, you'd have 3% max per egg of getting the new breed, not including the super long breeding cooldowns. That would be one way to keep the gem breeds rarer.
With ancient breeds, putting them behind a paywall makes the users buy twice as much in order to get them ready to breed. Not including the fact you have to purchase twice as many gene scrolls for traits, cause changing the breed will remove all current traits from the dragon.
[...]
I feel like if yall want to make gem breeds, stick to modern ones. They'd feel way more worth it due to not having the restrictions the ancient breeds have! We'd get to play with accessories and we'd even only have to get 1 gene scroll (and we'd also keep the traits iirc, never used a modern scroll) and even then, unless you'd breed with a coatl or wildclaw, you'd have 3% max per egg of getting the new breed, not including the super long breeding cooldowns. That would be one way to keep the gem breeds rarer.
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