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Is there any known ways view a specific dragons lineage? Or does FR not allow websites like that? I am in want of one if it exists, because tracing up and down a family line doesn't seem like time well spent. Though if I do not manually trace it, I worry I won't be selling my dragon at its recommended value.

Thanks for any help!!
Is there any known ways view a specific dragons lineage? Or does FR not allow websites like that? I am in want of one if it exists, because tracing up and down a family line doesn't seem like time well spent. Though if I do not manually trace it, I worry I won't be selling my dragon at its recommended value.

Thanks for any help!!
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@FyniteShadow027

No, anything like that would be datamining FR which is not allowed.

Also, if you're trying to follow a guide to dragon pricing I'd suggest not doing so. All pricing guides are wrong.

If everyone agreed that [various factors] = [x price] then there would only be one guide and every dragon on the AH would follow that pricing. A quick check of the AH shows that this is not the case. Beyond the exalt value (and even that isn't a constant) it comes down to subjective worth or "what I feel it should cost."

Feelings are highly individual and thus your best bet is to compare your dragon/s to others with similar traits for pricing advice beyond what you feel is the right price.

Dragon Selling Points.
@FyniteShadow027

No, anything like that would be datamining FR which is not allowed.

Also, if you're trying to follow a guide to dragon pricing I'd suggest not doing so. All pricing guides are wrong.

If everyone agreed that [various factors] = [x price] then there would only be one guide and every dragon on the AH would follow that pricing. A quick check of the AH shows that this is not the case. Beyond the exalt value (and even that isn't a constant) it comes down to subjective worth or "what I feel it should cost."

Feelings are highly individual and thus your best bet is to compare your dragon/s to others with similar traits for pricing advice beyond what you feel is the right price.

Dragon Selling Points.
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@Nightwind

That makes me feel a bit better honestly. I'm always fretting about "what if this dragon is worth more than I sold it" but you make a good point honestly- Thank you kindly!!!
@Nightwind

That makes me feel a bit better honestly. I'm always fretting about "what if this dragon is worth more than I sold it" but you make a good point honestly- Thank you kindly!!!
Current Profile picture DragonFynite's WishlistLair Lore, but its a bit oldFulgur Isle HatcheryPlant and both Dark Brown Books are from Jasper's F2U Graphics (click leaning books)
Other shelf assets are From dreamingcity's F2U pixel thread (click shelf).......
I pin bugs irl, its like bug taxidermy (click bugs if you too want these insect displays)....... chlWSCE.pngchlWSCE.pngchlWSCE.pngAny pronouns, no neosLink to lightning flight's subspecies SALES hub, because I am a subspecies judge and horder themLink to my G1 sales tabNo link just websThis is where I will put my dragon sona once I make one, for now it links to my profile
All other shelf assets are From dreamingcity's F2U pixel thread (click shelf)
@Nightwind

I know this thread was inactive for a few days, but I was wondering if you were whether or not I could edit the post and put it as a suggestion in the suggestion forum? I don't know if this has been addressed before as a suggestion and I'm not sure where to find out if it has been?

I also don't know if it would be a terrible suggestion... It might hurt the in-game economy :/

Ty in advance if you have any insight!!!
@Nightwind

I know this thread was inactive for a few days, but I was wondering if you were whether or not I could edit the post and put it as a suggestion in the suggestion forum? I don't know if this has been addressed before as a suggestion and I'm not sure where to find out if it has been?

I also don't know if it would be a terrible suggestion... It might hurt the in-game economy :/

Ty in advance if you have any insight!!!
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Other shelf assets are From dreamingcity's F2U pixel thread (click shelf).......
I pin bugs irl, its like bug taxidermy (click bugs if you too want these insect displays)....... chlWSCE.pngchlWSCE.pngchlWSCE.pngAny pronouns, no neosLink to lightning flight's subspecies SALES hub, because I am a subspecies judge and horder themLink to my G1 sales tabNo link just websThis is where I will put my dragon sona once I make one, for now it links to my profile
All other shelf assets are From dreamingcity's F2U pixel thread (click shelf)
I'm not the person you pinged, just a random person browsing help forums :) But here would be my insight on this one:

You certainly could post something like this as a suggestion if you wanted to. In my experience lurking in the suggestion forums, things like this have indeed been suggested before (if you want to find them, I would try searching through the suggestion forum itself - terms like "lineage," "lineage tracker," "family tree" etc. and sorting by most recent would probably yield good results). In fact, I think I saw one posted quite recently!

I want to say that not a lot of people tend to support lineage trackers, though I don't quite remember the reasons why. I believe it might just be due to taxing the servers, but looking through the actual suggestion posts would defintiely give a better idea on the "whys" of it than I probably could. I think the main reason might honestly just be that, while some people enjoy lineage tracking, it just not a tool that the majority of users would really use.

As for the economy though, I don't see it as being a problem there! A dragon's lineage very, very rarely influences its value at all, other than g1s. G1s that are pretty will certainly have a price hike over similar non g1 dragons, but other than that, lineage is a fairly rare and niche selling point. (And even with g1s, the lineage alone isn't enough to make it rare - lots, even the majority, of g1s go for fodder price.) The main other examples are folks that collect pure g2 imperials, descendants of specific dragons (namely the glitch dragon Naomi and dragon #666 Ignis), and occasionally folks who like to grab children of progens. Again though, these tend to be niche interests and it can be difficult to find buyers who are looking for that kind of thing or who are willing to pay more for a dragon because of it.

So, more in reference to your original question, I would just say try not to worry too much about undervaluing a dragon! This is where Nightwind's advice of "a dragon is worth as much as a buyer is willing to pay" comes in :) Any price above exalt payout and the auction house floor is going to be subjective in the end!
I'm not the person you pinged, just a random person browsing help forums :) But here would be my insight on this one:

You certainly could post something like this as a suggestion if you wanted to. In my experience lurking in the suggestion forums, things like this have indeed been suggested before (if you want to find them, I would try searching through the suggestion forum itself - terms like "lineage," "lineage tracker," "family tree" etc. and sorting by most recent would probably yield good results). In fact, I think I saw one posted quite recently!

I want to say that not a lot of people tend to support lineage trackers, though I don't quite remember the reasons why. I believe it might just be due to taxing the servers, but looking through the actual suggestion posts would defintiely give a better idea on the "whys" of it than I probably could. I think the main reason might honestly just be that, while some people enjoy lineage tracking, it just not a tool that the majority of users would really use.

As for the economy though, I don't see it as being a problem there! A dragon's lineage very, very rarely influences its value at all, other than g1s. G1s that are pretty will certainly have a price hike over similar non g1 dragons, but other than that, lineage is a fairly rare and niche selling point. (And even with g1s, the lineage alone isn't enough to make it rare - lots, even the majority, of g1s go for fodder price.) The main other examples are folks that collect pure g2 imperials, descendants of specific dragons (namely the glitch dragon Naomi and dragon #666 Ignis), and occasionally folks who like to grab children of progens. Again though, these tend to be niche interests and it can be difficult to find buyers who are looking for that kind of thing or who are willing to pay more for a dragon because of it.

So, more in reference to your original question, I would just say try not to worry too much about undervaluing a dragon! This is where Nightwind's advice of "a dragon is worth as much as a buyer is willing to pay" comes in :) Any price above exalt payout and the auction house floor is going to be subjective in the end!
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@FyniteShadow027

If you have anything new to say other than "I want it" feel free to use the forum search in Suggestions to check out and comment on other threads asking for this. It's the magnifying glass at the top of every thread and forum. Default is not by date so you should change that to see what is most recent.

It would really help if you had ideas about how to solve the most difficult problems in getting such a feature to work:

1. Incest. Family trees that start circling are problematic from a visual and programming standpoint.

2. Lengthy offspring lists. Dragons live forever and can breed forever. I know of at least a dozen lairs who have pairs with hundreds of offspring.

For example my boy Karkinos has a few hundred and is currently sitting on a nest. I breed him regularly. His offspring list looked like this two years ago and has only gotten longer. I kept one of his sons 3 years ago to keep as a fodder breeder and that makes the offspring list even worse just for those two generations.
@FyniteShadow027

If you have anything new to say other than "I want it" feel free to use the forum search in Suggestions to check out and comment on other threads asking for this. It's the magnifying glass at the top of every thread and forum. Default is not by date so you should change that to see what is most recent.

It would really help if you had ideas about how to solve the most difficult problems in getting such a feature to work:

1. Incest. Family trees that start circling are problematic from a visual and programming standpoint.

2. Lengthy offspring lists. Dragons live forever and can breed forever. I know of at least a dozen lairs who have pairs with hundreds of offspring.

For example my boy Karkinos has a few hundred and is currently sitting on a nest. I breed him regularly. His offspring list looked like this two years ago and has only gotten longer. I kept one of his sons 3 years ago to keep as a fodder breeder and that makes the offspring list even worse just for those two generations.
I want to live in Theory. Everything works there.

Have you checked the Gem MP for Gene and Breed scrolls before buying an AH listing from me ending in 5g?