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TOPIC | Fire Emblem Fates(IF) Hype Train
@MewFanGirl

Well, look at it this way, in Awakening, if you wanted to see each support, you'd have to restart the game a number of times equal to the number of available S supports for Robin. This was the same idea (it was a cap of 5 in the previous games, and supports only went up to A), but limiting it meant that you'd see a different part of the story each play through. For example, in Sacred Stones, one of the army members talks about the reason the antagonist started using 'The Fire Emblem' (which eventually caused the conflict the game centers around). He defends the antagonist, claiming that what he did was for the greater good (and it was), but they didn't realize it would have such a consequence. This was only available in one support chain, but he had three different ones, so you could easily go through the game without seeing the info, instead getting to know the actual character better.

I guess why I liked it is because it presented this sense of 'choice', that, while minor, created a different play experience each time. Oh, and like I mentioned previously, setting two characters up was always a thing, it was just a ton more limited in previous games. Even at A rank, some characters wouldn't end up together.
@MewFanGirl

Well, look at it this way, in Awakening, if you wanted to see each support, you'd have to restart the game a number of times equal to the number of available S supports for Robin. This was the same idea (it was a cap of 5 in the previous games, and supports only went up to A), but limiting it meant that you'd see a different part of the story each play through. For example, in Sacred Stones, one of the army members talks about the reason the antagonist started using 'The Fire Emblem' (which eventually caused the conflict the game centers around). He defends the antagonist, claiming that what he did was for the greater good (and it was), but they didn't realize it would have such a consequence. This was only available in one support chain, but he had three different ones, so you could easily go through the game without seeing the info, instead getting to know the actual character better.

I guess why I liked it is because it presented this sense of 'choice', that, while minor, created a different play experience each time. Oh, and like I mentioned previously, setting two characters up was always a thing, it was just a ton more limited in previous games. Even at A rank, some characters wouldn't end up together.
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@MewFanGirl
No clue, some even called her ugly! Man these games will break my heart if I choose, both girls are so sweet!
Definitely non-family marriages, incest would be VERY awkward XD
I was such a total noob that the irony between RobinxTiki went way over my head at first, I thought they were cute together, I still ship them hehe
Robin was indeed way too OP, I had to deliberately gimp myself and use weaker characters or else Robin would hog all the kills lol!

@AtheistPaladin
I'm definitely curious in the differences between support systems! Also what do you think of adding more ranks to supports? E-S instead of C-S? Do you think it would help flesh out characters a bit more?
@MewFanGirl
No clue, some even called her ugly! Man these games will break my heart if I choose, both girls are so sweet!
Definitely non-family marriages, incest would be VERY awkward XD
I was such a total noob that the irony between RobinxTiki went way over my head at first, I thought they were cute together, I still ship them hehe
Robin was indeed way too OP, I had to deliberately gimp myself and use weaker characters or else Robin would hog all the kills lol!

@AtheistPaladin
I'm definitely curious in the differences between support systems! Also what do you think of adding more ranks to supports? E-S instead of C-S? Do you think it would help flesh out characters a bit more?
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@Manah

I think that would depend. Assuming that the amount of dialogue per support convo didn't change, then yeah, more ranks would obviously flesh out a character more. But when each dialogue bit is shorter because there are more, it might just make it worse (I feel like this was the biggest problem in Awakening, too many supports means that the dialogue in each scene was shorter).


Again, I'd like to clarify, I love Awakening, it did a ton of things right (for every issue it had, it fixed two more). But I feel like the actual content of the supports were weak. This is really only because I've played the previous games before, so I had something to compare it to.
@Manah

I think that would depend. Assuming that the amount of dialogue per support convo didn't change, then yeah, more ranks would obviously flesh out a character more. But when each dialogue bit is shorter because there are more, it might just make it worse (I feel like this was the biggest problem in Awakening, too many supports means that the dialogue in each scene was shorter).


Again, I'd like to clarify, I love Awakening, it did a ton of things right (for every issue it had, it fixed two more). But I feel like the actual content of the supports were weak. This is really only because I've played the previous games before, so I had something to compare it to.
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@AtheistPaladin
Hmm that's true. They have a new writer, which may be the blessing that ups the quality of plot and supports. They also use the same engine as in Awakening, which may mean the workload is decreased and they can spend more time on supports
@AtheistPaladin
Hmm that's true. They have a new writer, which may be the blessing that ups the quality of plot and supports. They also use the same engine as in Awakening, which may mean the workload is decreased and they can spend more time on supports
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@AtheistPaladin Well, honestly except for the first time I played with each gender of Robin, I only did the support convos of each couple getting married, and then the father to the child. So for me, I wasn't seeing the EXACT same things every time. :) I guess what I'm more trying to say, is that if you limit is, the player is picking and choosing what they do or do not want to see, while if it's free to gallivant like in Awakening, you can choose to do, or not to do, and not feel pressured to max out what you can do so you can EVENTUALLY see everything.

@Manah WHAT?! Who called Sakura ugly?! She's absolutely positively ADORABLE!!! Plus, who are people to make such mean opinions on a character, before they even get to know them?
Yeah, I don't think incest would be allowed. I mean, they didn't allow it in Awakening. (Now granted, Owain could marry his female cousins, but that's still deemed as okay in Japan. Used to be everywhere, and FE is based on much more past times, so it's overlookable.)
RobinxTiki ARE adorable. I REALLY need to do that one soon. *loves Tiki a lot*
Yeah, but after a while, I DID tend to not care. Just wanted to finish the game by the point Robin got that strong so I could move onto the next playthrough.
And more support convos would be GREAT! :D I always wished that there was a little bit more to some of the convos in Awakening.
And I will admit, the new writer excites me. :D
@AtheistPaladin Well, honestly except for the first time I played with each gender of Robin, I only did the support convos of each couple getting married, and then the father to the child. So for me, I wasn't seeing the EXACT same things every time. :) I guess what I'm more trying to say, is that if you limit is, the player is picking and choosing what they do or do not want to see, while if it's free to gallivant like in Awakening, you can choose to do, or not to do, and not feel pressured to max out what you can do so you can EVENTUALLY see everything.

@Manah WHAT?! Who called Sakura ugly?! She's absolutely positively ADORABLE!!! Plus, who are people to make such mean opinions on a character, before they even get to know them?
Yeah, I don't think incest would be allowed. I mean, they didn't allow it in Awakening. (Now granted, Owain could marry his female cousins, but that's still deemed as okay in Japan. Used to be everywhere, and FE is based on much more past times, so it's overlookable.)
RobinxTiki ARE adorable. I REALLY need to do that one soon. *loves Tiki a lot*
Yeah, but after a while, I DID tend to not care. Just wanted to finish the game by the point Robin got that strong so I could move onto the next playthrough.
And more support convos would be GREAT! :D I always wished that there was a little bit more to some of the convos in Awakening.
And I will admit, the new writer excites me. :D
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@MewFanGirl
Apparently some japanese Fire Emblem players bashed Sakura on a forum, heard about it on Serenesforest. People seem to bash Hoshido in general, calling it "for the weak" due to the easier content. Others made fun of the little sisters in general, it was all pretty stupid to read OTL
Past Fire Emblem games also had moments of incest, or so I was told, which were sometimes easier to spot.
More support ranks would possibly improve the flow of the conversations, so that it's less of a jump between best buddies and marriage XD
@MewFanGirl
Apparently some japanese Fire Emblem players bashed Sakura on a forum, heard about it on Serenesforest. People seem to bash Hoshido in general, calling it "for the weak" due to the easier content. Others made fun of the little sisters in general, it was all pretty stupid to read OTL
Past Fire Emblem games also had moments of incest, or so I was told, which were sometimes easier to spot.
More support ranks would possibly improve the flow of the conversations, so that it's less of a jump between best buddies and marriage XD
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@Manah
Yeah, there were definitely tones of incest in some of the games... Which is sad, because it almost ruined one of my favorite characters for me when I noticed.

@MewFanGirl

I don't really mind what support system they go with, as long as it's better than Radiant Dawn's. Because that was just sad (generic one-liners, only one or two supports actually gave you any useful info). I'll be a bit disappointed if the quality is the same as Awakening's, but I'll love it all the same.
@Manah
Yeah, there were definitely tones of incest in some of the games... Which is sad, because it almost ruined one of my favorite characters for me when I noticed.

@MewFanGirl

I don't really mind what support system they go with, as long as it's better than Radiant Dawn's. Because that was just sad (generic one-liners, only one or two supports actually gave you any useful info). I'll be a bit disappointed if the quality is the same as Awakening's, but I'll love it all the same.
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@Manah *sigh* I suppose, there will always be haters, so just let them hate, and we can ignore them.
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Indeed. :) Cause some of the marriages, went from friends to lovers in an instant. (Like Virion and Robin. *cough* *cough* )

@AtheistPaladin Generic one-liners? O_O That's......... disappointing........ :( Please Naga, don't let them do that to this promising looking of a game...

And totally straight off the top of my head of the moment: Since there probably won't be time-traveling children in this game, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe we could get a few gay couples? Please?
"I want to be manhandled!" -Inigo in a support with Gerome
@Manah *sigh* I suppose, there will always be haters, so just let them hate, and we can ignore them.
Ick.
Indeed. :) Cause some of the marriages, went from friends to lovers in an instant. (Like Virion and Robin. *cough* *cough* )

@AtheistPaladin Generic one-liners? O_O That's......... disappointing........ :( Please Naga, don't let them do that to this promising looking of a game...

And totally straight off the top of my head of the moment: Since there probably won't be time-traveling children in this game, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe we could get a few gay couples? Please?
"I want to be manhandled!" -Inigo in a support with Gerome
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@MewFanGirl

Yep, here's an example, this is one of Soren's: "(Insert Character), step lightly. This battle is more dangerous than it seems."
To which someone would respond (in this case I just randomly grabbed Titania's) with something like this: "Hello. As long as I have a sharp axe and my friends, I’ll pull through somehow."


The issue with a homosexual couple is Japan. It's not really socially acceptable in terms of what content a game can have unless it's a joke. They've been able to hint at it a few times previously (Soren towards Ike, but not reversed in the Tellius Saga, as well as Lucius and Raven in the Blazing Sword) but they can't say anything outright about the subject. Not much the writers can do on that subject.
@MewFanGirl

Yep, here's an example, this is one of Soren's: "(Insert Character), step lightly. This battle is more dangerous than it seems."
To which someone would respond (in this case I just randomly grabbed Titania's) with something like this: "Hello. As long as I have a sharp axe and my friends, I’ll pull through somehow."


The issue with a homosexual couple is Japan. It's not really socially acceptable in terms of what content a game can have unless it's a joke. They've been able to hint at it a few times previously (Soren towards Ike, but not reversed in the Tellius Saga, as well as Lucius and Raven in the Blazing Sword) but they can't say anything outright about the subject. Not much the writers can do on that subject.
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@AtheistPaladin Geeze. That's so lame!
Eh, yeah. There is that problem. Boo. :/ (Though I only meant like, one or two. :P )


On a side note: I just found something interesting on youtube! Here, take a looksies.
@AtheistPaladin Geeze. That's so lame!
Eh, yeah. There is that problem. Boo. :/ (Though I only meant like, one or two. :P )


On a side note: I just found something interesting on youtube! Here, take a looksies.
I drew a fantastic Pokemon Sun and Moon picture if you would like to see.

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