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Hello, hello! I've seen a lot of folks create their own languages on site and for some movies and got inspired to take this incredible quest myself! For lore purposes of course and good fun times!
And I already have a project that I'm rebooting yet again, keeping the old name because I have no idea what new name to give so..yep. Second post and on is going to be the main event.
(Man I'm gonna have a lot to dig out and quote before kickstarting this snowball avalanche huh? )
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Historical Text
Trinkets
A long, storied history of the rise of the Serthis is scrawled on this parchment, written from the perspective of a Serthis too young to fight.
Curious to know what this project is about? Why it started?
The introductory post has you covered, that along with some notes and what other useful information about the project. This language is still very much into the proto stage and frankly..I'm suspecting for it to stay that way.
But that's alright. UvU
A post dedicated entirely to all of my language project related notes and what I'm hoping to achieve creation-wise. Also some clan lore blurbs and such still related to the project.
So, there will be a lot of edits going on here with updates noted here to prevent disrupting the flow.
Did I forget to mention that this is a glossary of sorts?
Forgotten Poet's Tools
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The abandoned tools of a traveling poet. The inkwell is empty, and the feather is wilting.
Where all the words are kept in alphabetical order from A all the way up to Z- one single post.
(Wheeze ran out of what else to say. TwT") I'm giving myself so much space on purpose to get the habit of being a touch more descriptive.
Book of Urban Legends
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Tales of dubious validity. Hatchlings can't seem to get enough of them.
Hello, hello! I've seen a lot of folks create their own languages on site and for some movies and got inspired to take this incredible quest myself! For lore purposes of course and good fun times!
And I already have a project that I'm rebooting yet again, keeping the old name because I have no idea what new name to give so..yep. Second post and on is going to be the main event.
(Man I'm gonna have a lot to dig out and quote before kickstarting this snowball avalanche huh? )
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Historical Text
Trinkets
A long, storied history of the rise of the Serthis is scrawled on this parchment, written from the perspective of a Serthis too young to fight.
Curious to know what this project is about? Why it started?
The introductory post has you covered, that along with some notes and what other useful information about the project. This language is still very much into the proto stage and frankly..I'm suspecting for it to stay that way.
But that's alright. UvU
A post dedicated entirely to all of my language project related notes and what I'm hoping to achieve creation-wise. Also some clan lore blurbs and such still related to the project.
So, there will be a lot of edits going on here with updates noted here to prevent disrupting the flow.
Did I forget to mention that this is a glossary of sorts?
Forgotten Poet's Tools
Trinkets
The abandoned tools of a traveling poet. The inkwell is empty, and the feather is wilting.
Where all the words are kept in alphabetical order from A all the way up to Z- one single post.
(Wheeze ran out of what else to say. TwT") I'm giving myself so much space on purpose to get the habit of being a touch more descriptive.
Book of Urban Legends
Trinkets
Tales of dubious validity. Hatchlings can't seem to get enough of them.
Introduction "Wyvern,what is all this nonsense? What are these wacky words?"
Well friends,this is a newly created language called Language of Sages or how I more oftentimes refer to it as Old speech.-And also an example that imagination and creativity knows absolutely no limits and even less,shame.
So here I am,creating my very own wacky and maybe cool looking language from scratch with nothing but my creativity in it's finest chaotic form.
"But Wyvern,why bother to go through all the hassle of creating it?"
A good question that desirves a good answer,and by that I mean-explanation.
The short version is: Simply because it's really fun!
Now the longer version: I've been playing a few games,reading a bunch of sites and watched some cool movies where the races have a unique language that differs them from the others.
Take for example Lord of the rings and James Cameron's Avatar:
Every race from elves to the blue alien savages known as Na'vi have a language that sounds really cool,and so I sat down and started thinking-why not make a language for my dragons and beasts here on Flight rising? Technically they are different races living together,at least according to my lore,assuming you've already skimmed through it enough to know what I'm talking about now.
"Dragons already have their own languages,same goes for the Beastclans!"
Here I can debate with you.
Sure,the Beastclans have their own languages but the dragons? If you read through the various breeds in the site-or wiki-encyclopedia,you'll likely notice that so far only Coatls have their own native language that consists of mismatched whistles,clicks and so on.
Alright,all questions answered? Yes? Great! Let's progress to the next and essential part of this probably ungodly long post!
-- Furthermore, about the "dragons don't really have their own language aside from a few handful of breeds" I say to my younger self this: Is draconian a joke to you?
Now back on track, I started creating this language with the second motifs of lore so that my clan has a unique to them language that would make them stand out from the other dragons and beastfolk around Sornienth.
Now, in this second reboot, I'm going to dive in with the former spirit and a pinch of the new set of knowledge that I have learned during the first reboot. (Where I also learned that sometimes too many cooks can spoil the soup. I.e. ruin the whole thing albeit unintentionally. )
So what I will do is revert back to coining up words using the Latin alphabet and give them meanings, and then incorporate them into the grammar. By writing simple sentences in English and seeing how they translate into my own made up language.
Although! I may use diagraphs! (Dz,ts, zh, etc. Those are the ones I could give as examples at the top of my head. )
Introduction "Wyvern,what is all this nonsense? What are these wacky words?"
Well friends,this is a newly created language called Language of Sages or how I more oftentimes refer to it as Old speech.-And also an example that imagination and creativity knows absolutely no limits and even less,shame.
So here I am,creating my very own wacky and maybe cool looking language from scratch with nothing but my creativity in it's finest chaotic form.
"But Wyvern,why bother to go through all the hassle of creating it?"
A good question that desirves a good answer,and by that I mean-explanation.
The short version is: Simply because it's really fun!
Now the longer version: I've been playing a few games,reading a bunch of sites and watched some cool movies where the races have a unique language that differs them from the others.
Take for example Lord of the rings and James Cameron's Avatar:
Every race from elves to the blue alien savages known as Na'vi have a language that sounds really cool,and so I sat down and started thinking-why not make a language for my dragons and beasts here on Flight rising? Technically they are different races living together,at least according to my lore,assuming you've already skimmed through it enough to know what I'm talking about now.
"Dragons already have their own languages,same goes for the Beastclans!"
Here I can debate with you.
Sure,the Beastclans have their own languages but the dragons? If you read through the various breeds in the site-or wiki-encyclopedia,you'll likely notice that so far only Coatls have their own native language that consists of mismatched whistles,clicks and so on.
Alright,all questions answered? Yes? Great! Let's progress to the next and essential part of this probably ungodly long post!
-- Furthermore, about the "dragons don't really have their own language aside from a few handful of breeds" I say to my younger self this: Is draconian a joke to you?
Now back on track, I started creating this language with the second motifs of lore so that my clan has a unique to them language that would make them stand out from the other dragons and beastfolk around Sornienth.
Now, in this second reboot, I'm going to dive in with the former spirit and a pinch of the new set of knowledge that I have learned during the first reboot. (Where I also learned that sometimes too many cooks can spoil the soup. I.e. ruin the whole thing albeit unintentionally. )
So what I will do is revert back to coining up words using the Latin alphabet and give them meanings, and then incorporate them into the grammar. By writing simple sentences in English and seeing how they translate into my own made up language.
Although! I may use diagraphs! (Dz,ts, zh, etc. Those are the ones I could give as examples at the top of my head. )
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I've been thinking about how to make this conlang into something close to an alluggative (i think that's how i'm supposed to write the word) language..I keep rolling the note on morphological components and what I could be missing. Nothing comes to mind. Maybe I should talk with gemhue a little more on the subject and see if they can shed a bit more light. Probbably.
But I still want to brainstorm just a bit more-see if I'll figure it out.
Even though my activity on FR isn't very frequent, I still haven't forgotten about my promects,this one included. Sorry I'm not posting a lot.
You know..September will be here soon, rolling after August flies out the window and my school year will begin (now i'm in eleventh grade, time sure flies quickly,huh?) And I think that all the projects I have be it public like this one and my lorebooks scattered around Creative corner- I simply wouldn't put them as my top biggest priorities anymore. Frankly I'm not sure that I'll have much time on my hands anyways, though that's not to say I will abandon them!
But as of late it feels like I simultaniously want to do all of my projects at once but also don't want to do anything at all. It's like art block but for everything. Maybe I'm bit overwhelmed with everything going on and just need to withdrawl for a moment to think, take a break before coming back into the swing of things.
...I better cut my babbling here. This note section is strictly for notes that are related to the subject-not personal matters and thoughts. These,have no bussiness here at all- maybe they will have when I make the "random thoughts" notes section.
This note was made on Sunday, 9th August 6:35pm
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I remember practicing how to analyze a word like, what Grammatical case it is, gender, number, in seventh grade and I have to admit:
I didn't understand it, the cases, still don't to this day and I'm eleventh grade. TvT )
It doesn't help the fact that I haven't even heard of these ever again after that, for all these three-four years. Not even as a refresher.
For the next three to four years all we've been doing is dealing with lexical stuff (basic level) and formal forms plus some other minor level Grammar things that made me even more confused, because I remember them a whole different way.
Because that's what I've been taught for all the years spent in elementary school? Primary school? ....Middle school.
So, yeah, I don't even know what is right about Grammatical forms and what is totally made up nonsense freshly introduced. (Sorry, got a little frustrated there)
This note was made on 21st July
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• Alright, let's get one activity note outta the way:
I won't be active from 3:00 to 5:00 pm server time (13:00- 15:00 in my time zone), because literature has decided to remind me of itself in the (in my stubbornly salty opinion tho I'm kinda wrong to be) rude way possible.
I'm talking about the school literature conspect. You know? You have to read an X amount of books, and the alike from various authors before the beginning of the school year? Yeah,that.
I'm going to be honest and say that I'm not a huge fan of that thing. Even though I have promised myself to actually really study during the upcoming school year. I'm still salty about having to read that list!
D-:< (this is the fact of a very unhappy individual, a.k.a yours truly. )
So yeah! I'm being a salty Wyvern.
Okay 19th July, enough of displeased bum Wyvern and off to the next section-- Note over!
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• Looking through the original dictionary, there are some words that will not pass on here in this reboot, but I think a good majority will make it! -11:40 edit
Furthermore, it really is confusing the 's' being a shifty 'of' particle and the -n & -m being indicatives for a numbers like Singular and plural. Because they are literally everywhere. And you just can't catch them- something that I will touch on in the Grammar post.
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• Do you know what sounds you want the language to have? -gemhue
Good question, the chart presented in this linked post is...quite the mess so I will be doing an updated version of that but for now have this: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/cc/2651998/3#post_42934443]OwO'[/url]
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• Okay, I might have to knock out the 'm' labial consonant and leave the more nasal...
On the other hand, looking at the language so far we mostly have sounds like
'K', 'T','S', 'V' among others that are not labial....Actually, you know what? M is staying and B is getting knocked out of the consonant chart. For now it won't have a replacement because it's too late. I'm going to listen through the IPA chart and see what I can do. Edit: Nope. I'm still going to try to update the chart.
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• morphological components is the smallest part of a word that still has meaning;
Morphological components are root words, prefixes (affixes that come before the main root), and suffixes (affixes that come after the main root).
[b]Derivational Morphological Components[/b]
a- + type + -ical = atypical
"a-" is a prefix meaning "not"
"type" is a root word
"-ical" is a suffix that changes nouns to adjectives
un- + happy + -ness = unhappiness
"un-" is a prefix of negation
"happy" is a root word
"-ness" is a suffix that changes adjectives to nouns
[b]Inflectional Morphological Components[/b]
walk + -s = walks
"walk" is a root word
"-s" is a suffix that indicates third person singular present simple verb tense
run + -ing = running
"run" is a root word
"-ing" is a suffix that indicates continuous verb tense
cat + -s = cats
"cat" is a root word
"-s" is a suffix that indicates pluralization
Words can have only one morphological component or they can have many! - Gemhue
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29th Jul note. No I'm not gone nor have I abandoned this. Also you may be wondering why most of the 'X' words start with a 'ks' diagraph, for instance words like "ksa'an" meaning "dagger, knife" or "ksagaw" which means "game"- don't start with exactly 'X'.
Because, listening to 'X' in the IPA chart, you would hear a perhaps, firmer 'h' sound rather than 'ks' sound like in...um..saxophone. [sak-so-fon]
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An update on my activity. Lately I hardly stick around the site and it's been a year since my last traces of activity in this thread. I only pop up to check if anyone has sent me pm, friend request or pinged me somewhere. That's it.
I simply don't have much energy?? I don't feel much motivation to work on anything else but my lore and lair. But I am intending on picking this project once more and try to make some progress on it, see how far I can go with it. Eventually.
[This note was made on 24th January, 12:43PM, Sunday.]
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Ah wait! Now remember why i wanted to make a note in the first place! (Aside from updating my activity)
The language is one biiiiig word play, like scrabbles or other games that require you to combine letters or words to form new ones. Basically a word often gets remixed alot to make a new word separate from it. Or multiple new words.
[This note was made on 24th January, 12:51PM, Sunday.]
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Perfect for diaries, manifestos, and shopping lists.
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Owlcat Journal
Trinkets
Embossed with a colorful owlcat, this journal is filled with the hopes, dreams, and cookie recipes of a young dragon.
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Forest Field Guide
Trinkets
This tome provides detailed information on the flora and fauna of the region - it seems that many creatures have changed their habits since the forest began to regularly catch fire.
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Field Manual
Accessory Stone
The Field Manual gives its wearer insight to the battle readiness of all opponents. (Grants vision of enemy ability/breath bars.)
500
Required Level: 9
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I've been thinking about how to make this conlang into something close to an alluggative (i think that's how i'm supposed to write the word) language..I keep rolling the note on morphological components and what I could be missing. Nothing comes to mind. Maybe I should talk with gemhue a little more on the subject and see if they can shed a bit more light. Probbably.
But I still want to brainstorm just a bit more-see if I'll figure it out.
Even though my activity on FR isn't very frequent, I still haven't forgotten about my promects,this one included. Sorry I'm not posting a lot.
You know..September will be here soon, rolling after August flies out the window and my school year will begin (now i'm in eleventh grade, time sure flies quickly,huh?) And I think that all the projects I have be it public like this one and my lorebooks scattered around Creative corner- I simply wouldn't put them as my top biggest priorities anymore. Frankly I'm not sure that I'll have much time on my hands anyways, though that's not to say I will abandon them!
But as of late it feels like I simultaniously want to do all of my projects at once but also don't want to do anything at all. It's like art block but for everything. Maybe I'm bit overwhelmed with everything going on and just need to withdrawl for a moment to think, take a break before coming back into the swing of things.
...I better cut my babbling here. This note section is strictly for notes that are related to the subject-not personal matters and thoughts. These,have no bussiness here at all- maybe they will have when I make the "random thoughts" notes section.
This note was made on Sunday, 9th August 6:35pm
I remember practicing how to analyze a word like, what Grammatical case it is, gender, number, in seventh grade and I have to admit:
I didn't understand it, the cases, still don't to this day and I'm eleventh grade. TvT )
It doesn't help the fact that I haven't even heard of these ever again after that, for all these three-four years. Not even as a refresher.
For the next three to four years all we've been doing is dealing with lexical stuff (basic level) and formal forms plus some other minor level Grammar things that made me even more confused, because I remember them a whole different way.
Because that's what I've been taught for all the years spent in elementary school? Primary school? ....Middle school.
So, yeah, I don't even know what is right about Grammatical forms and what is totally made up nonsense freshly introduced. (Sorry, got a little frustrated there)
This note was made on 21st July
• Alright, let's get one activity note outta the way:
I won't be active from 3:00 to 5:00 pm server time (13:00- 15:00 in my time zone), because literature has decided to remind me of itself in the (in my stubbornly salty opinion tho I'm kinda wrong to be) rude way possible.
I'm talking about the school literature conspect. You know? You have to read an X amount of books, and the alike from various authors before the beginning of the school year? Yeah,that.
I'm going to be honest and say that I'm not a huge fan of that thing. Even though I have promised myself to actually really study during the upcoming school year. I'm still salty about having to read that list!
D-:< (this is the fact of a very unhappy individual, a.k.a yours truly. )
So yeah! I'm being a salty Wyvern.
Okay 19th July, enough of displeased bum Wyvern and off to the next section-- Note over!
• Looking through the original dictionary, there are some words that will not pass on here in this reboot, but I think a good majority will make it! -11:40 edit
Furthermore, it really is confusing the 's' being a shifty 'of' particle and the -n & -m being indicatives for a numbers like Singular and plural. Because they are literally everywhere. And you just can't catch them- something that I will touch on in the Grammar post.
• Do you know what sounds you want the language to have? -gemhue
Good question, the chart presented in this linked post is...quite the mess so I will be doing an updated version of that but for now have this: OwO'
• Okay, I might have to knock out the 'm' labial consonant and leave the more nasal...
On the other hand, looking at the language so far we mostly have sounds like
'K', 'T','S', 'V' among others that are not labial....Actually, you know what? M is staying and B is getting knocked out of the consonant chart. For now it won't have a replacement because it's too late. I'm going to listen through the IPA chart and see what I can do. Edit: Nope. I'm still going to try to update the chart.
• morphological components is the smallest part of a word that still has meaning;
Morphological components are root words, prefixes (affixes that come before the main root), and suffixes (affixes that come after the main root).
Derivational Morphological Components
a- + type + -ical = atypical
"a-" is a prefix meaning "not"
"type" is a root word
"-ical" is a suffix that changes nouns to adjectives
un- + happy + -ness = unhappiness
"un-" is a prefix of negation
"happy" is a root word
"-ness" is a suffix that changes adjectives to nouns
Inflectional Morphological Components
walk + -s = walks
"walk" is a root word
"-s" is a suffix that indicates third person singular present simple verb tense
run + -ing = running
"run" is a root word
"-ing" is a suffix that indicates continuous verb tense
cat + -s = cats
"cat" is a root word
"-s" is a suffix that indicates pluralization
Words can have only one morphological component or they can have many! - Gemhue
29th Jul note. No I'm not gone nor have I abandoned this. Also you may be wondering why most of the 'X' words start with a 'ks' diagraph, for instance words like "ksa'an" meaning "dagger, knife" or "ksagaw" which means "game"- don't start with exactly 'X'.
Because, listening to 'X' in the IPA chart, you would hear a perhaps, firmer 'h' sound rather than 'ks' sound like in...um..saxophone. [sak-so-fon]
An update on my activity. Lately I hardly stick around the site and it's been a year since my last traces of activity in this thread. I only pop up to check if anyone has sent me pm, friend request or pinged me somewhere. That's it.
I simply don't have much energy?? I don't feel much motivation to work on anything else but my lore and lair. But I am intending on picking this project once more and try to make some progress on it, see how far I can go with it. Eventually.
[This note was made on 24th January, 12:43PM, Sunday.]
Ah wait! Now remember why i wanted to make a note in the first place! (Aside from updating my activity)
The language is one biiiiig word play, like scrabbles or other games that require you to combine letters or words to form new ones. Basically a word often gets remixed alot to make a new word separate from it. Or multiple new words.
[This note was made on 24th January, 12:51PM, Sunday.]
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I guess that my sole goal for this language, is to give it a somewhat tribal sound? Look? Feel?
For the moment, that seems like the best. Every new goal that pops up will be chalked up here in this post specifically.
I also guess that my second goal is to not make this too complex and difficult??
(Sounds about right. )
How this ties into my clan lore is that it has been carried on throughout time in one way or another, as many found the language interesting along with the notion of being able to hypothetically, speak the language of gods albeit not the eleven. That along with the desire to both unify the clan members by allowing them to understand each other perfectly, combined with the bonus of encoding things from pretty much anyone who doesn't know this one particular language.
Don't want your Talonok nosey friend to tease you about the wonderful descriptions of your crush and want to also keep the nose of your one equally nosey dragonic friend? At the same time? Simultaneously?
Well use a whole different language or symbols to encode your private journal or diary! Bonus points for utilizing both seamlessly.
Of course, if your loyal secretive dryad *cough* familiar *cough* friend does know that language, the sigils and words won't be random gibberish and they will be able to understand. And won't even tell a soul.
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A darkened glass bottle that once held ink. There are remnants of fluid crusted on the bottom and rim.
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Coral Basilisk Field Notes
Dragonmade
Detailed field notes on the abilities of the Coral Basilisk. Where is the author?
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Grouse Basilisk Field Notes
Dragonmade
Someone was very dedicated.
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Used Cartography Ink
Trinkets
A half-bottle of rotten cartographer's ink. You won't get much use out of it, but the bottle might be worth something.
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I guess that my sole goal for this language, is to give it a somewhat tribal sound? Look? Feel?
For the moment, that seems like the best. Every new goal that pops up will be chalked up here in this post specifically.
I also guess that my second goal is to not make this too complex and difficult??
(Sounds about right. )
How this ties into my clan lore is that it has been carried on throughout time in one way or another, as many found the language interesting along with the notion of being able to hypothetically, speak the language of gods albeit not the eleven. That along with the desire to both unify the clan members by allowing them to understand each other perfectly, combined with the bonus of encoding things from pretty much anyone who doesn't know this one particular language.
Don't want your Talonok nosey friend to tease you about the wonderful descriptions of your crush and want to also keep the nose of your one equally nosey dragonic friend? At the same time? Simultaneously?
Well use a whole different language or symbols to encode your private journal or diary! Bonus points for utilizing both seamlessly.
Of course, if your loyal secretive dryad *cough* familiar *cough* friend does know that language, the sigils and words won't be random gibberish and they will be able to understand. And won't even tell a soul.
B Banto-short, small. It is used for time and dragons/people. Bakhn'nego- High, tall, long Baánto'olúnar-star. Literally translated it means "little sun".
Baánto-Small; Used for animals and objects.
C Camnar-friend, companion, comrade, ally Camnarti-friendly Cafza- dig, hollow, burrow
E Ero-no, not Eturazol- treasure, fortune, wealth Eni-Yes, sure.
This is a word of agreement and confirmation, meaning can vary depending on context but it always expresses agreement and/or confirmation to something.
Ehehi-fun, humor, joke Etura- good Eturazolhuseph-Word (A word can be good but it can also be bad.)
F Fein-fool, idiot Fa'ao-Freedom, flight Furinún- fire
Fauá- Spring Falzan- bird Fa'eo- Fall (Autumn),fall, collapse
Falzan-atømanu- Harpy, Talonok (Bird person)
G Gem'mo-will Guwa- big, tall Guwa-gako- Tree (Tall stand)
Gako- Stick, spear Baanto-gako- Bush (Short tree)
H Hamanny-honor Honoti-homey, cozy, welcoming Ho'no'ki-village, town, city
Honø- home Hag'gat-dinner, breakfast, lunch. A word for meal. Hanún- bug
Hakto- map, journey Haktoda- walk, travel Hévrá–It can be used as a general greeting, regardless of time of day.
Ktualin-gako-Spear (rock-head stick) Kine'ena- doubt, uncertainty Ksag- a negative exlamination like "dammit!" or "shucks!"
A lesser swear/cuss word that would still make locals look at you unimpressed in comparison to the full thing "Ksagna'nana" which will make them rather upset.
It's like you're literally saying something along the lines of "damn your mother/father/relative". Cursing them for no reason.
L Llaly- song, music, lullaby Leákite-lakes, pools, ponds
Leáki-lake, pool, pond. Leá–water Leákanmi- Fish (water animal)
Leákanmi-atømanu- Maren (fish person) Lume- keep
M Mear-mine Maeh- my Medoral-heal, mend, restore
Medoraltú- healer Maly–happy Malyti-joyfully
Mamoru-memory Myzzuri- master (a skill, a craft, instrument, etc.), know very well how to handle something. Mat’táha-call, shout Meli'neona- hope, dream
Ougako- Chair, sit, rest Ogako- lay down, rest Oda-speed, haste, hurry, fast
P Pahz-door, gate Pinyo–chick Pinún–rooster
Pina–hen Peruanya–A term used to describe a hen that's nesting for the very first time, it is also sometimes affectionately used by the locals when addressing a first time mother in a playful friendly manner to tease her. Perunún–Word similar to peruanya but for fathers.
Sul-forget, lose, shadow Sarax- sting, pierce, jab, poke, stab Saraxhanún- Sting bug. A vague term used for insects that can sting such as bees, hornets, wasps, scorpions and many others. It can be used as a teasing nickname for clan members who are laser-focused on something.
Sepf- tell, talk, speak, answer Saffáeh- question, seeking of truth Ssahii- Snake
B Banto-short, small. It is used for time and dragons/people. Bakhn'nego- High, tall, long Baánto'olúnar-star. Literally translated it means "little sun".
Baánto-Small; Used for animals and objects.
C Camnar-friend, companion, comrade, ally Camnarti-friendly Cafza- dig, hollow, burrow
E Ero-no, not Eturazol- treasure, fortune, wealth Eni-Yes, sure.
This is a word of agreement and confirmation, meaning can vary depending on context but it always expresses agreement and/or confirmation to something.
Ehehi-fun, humor, joke Etura- good Eturazolhuseph-Word (A word can be good but it can also be bad.)
F Fein-fool, idiot Fa'ao-Freedom, flight Furinún- fire
Fauá- Spring Falzan- bird Fa'eo- Fall (Autumn),fall, collapse
Falzan-atømanu- Harpy, Talonok (Bird person)
G Gem'mo-will Guwa- big, tall Guwa-gako- Tree (Tall stand)
Gako- Stick, spear Baanto-gako- Bush (Short tree)
H Hamanny-honor Honoti-homey, cozy, welcoming Ho'no'ki-village, town, city
Honø- home Hag'gat-dinner, breakfast, lunch. A word for meal. Hanún- bug
Hakto- map, journey Haktoda- walk, travel Hévrá–It can be used as a general greeting, regardless of time of day.
Ktualin-gako-Spear (rock-head stick) Kine'ena- doubt, uncertainty Ksag- a negative exlamination like "dammit!" or "shucks!"
A lesser swear/cuss word that would still make locals look at you unimpressed in comparison to the full thing "Ksagna'nana" which will make them rather upset.
It's like you're literally saying something along the lines of "damn your mother/father/relative". Cursing them for no reason.
L Llaly- song, music, lullaby Leákite-lakes, pools, ponds
Leáki-lake, pool, pond. Leá–water Leákanmi- Fish (water animal)
Leákanmi-atømanu- Maren (fish person) Lume- keep
M Mear-mine Maeh- my Medoral-heal, mend, restore
Medoraltú- healer Maly–happy Malyti-joyfully
Mamoru-memory Myzzuri- master (a skill, a craft, instrument, etc.), know very well how to handle something. Mat’táha-call, shout Meli'neona- hope, dream
Ougako- Chair, sit, rest Ogako- lay down, rest Oda-speed, haste, hurry, fast
P Pahz-door, gate Pinyo–chick Pinún–rooster
Pina–hen Peruanya–A term used to describe a hen that's nesting for the very first time, it is also sometimes affectionately used by the locals when addressing a first time mother in a playful friendly manner to tease her. Perunún–Word similar to peruanya but for fathers.
Sul-forget, lose, shadow Sarax- sting, pierce, jab, poke, stab Saraxhanún- Sting bug. A vague term used for insects that can sting such as bees, hornets, wasps, scorpions and many others. It can be used as a teasing nickname for clan members who are laser-focused on something.
Sepf- tell, talk, speak, answer Saffáeh- question, seeking of truth Ssahii- Snake
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Na'áh atni- I am
Ynma atri - You are
Wa'áh ahni -She is
Na'áhte- (We)
Ynm'áte (You)
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Ná'ahún atni- I am
Inún atri- You are
Wá'ahún ahni- He is
Ná'ahúnte atni- We are
Inúnte atri- You are
Wá'ahúnte ahni- They are
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Wynlaá (She)
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Ná'ahvún- I
Inmnún- You
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Inmnúnte- You
Wyemlaánúnte- they
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Dryads will attack dragons that attempt to cut or harvest any piece of their grove.
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Autumn Dryad
Familiar
The autumn dryad is often seen guiding local fauna to burrows or caves so that they are protected from the approaching colds of winter.
1675
Spotted Faun
Familiar
Unusually playful, a faun's interest can result in unintended mischief and mayhem.
2000
Grove Piper
Familiar
If one listens very carefully, they can follow the notes of a grove piper's song through even the darkest and most twisted forest maze. If the tune fades, best take a different path.
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[ The pronouns:]
Female pronouns(formal)
-- -- -- --
Na'áh atni- I am
Ynma atri - You are
Wa'áh ahni -She is
Na'áhte- (We)
Ynm'áte (You)
Wa'áhte (They)
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-- -- -- --
Ná'ahún atni- I am
Inún atri- You are
Wá'ahún ahni- He is
Ná'ahúnte atni- We are
Inúnte atri- You are
Wá'ahúnte ahni- They are
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[quote=Basic notes but very important to keep in mind.]
[Size=3][font=cambria][b]|. What exactly is a Noun?[/b]
A word (other than a pronoun) used to identify any of a class of people, places, or things ( common noun ), or to name a particular one of these ( proper noun ).
[b]||. What exactly is a Verb?[/b]
• A word used to describe an action, state, or occurrence, and forming the main part of the predicate of a sentence, such as [i]hear, become, happen.[/i]
• Use (a word that is not conventionally used as a verb, typically a noun) as a verb.
• Verbs are words that express action or state of being. There are three types of verbs: action verbs, linking verbs, and helping verbs. Action Verbs. Action verbs are words that express action (give, eat, walk, etc.) or possession (have, own, etc.). Action verbs can be either transitive or intransitive.
[b]|||. What exactly is an Adverb?[/b]
A word or phrase that modifies or qualifies an adjective, verb, or other adverb or a word group, expressing a relation of place, time, circumstance, manner, cause, degree, etc. (e.g., [i]gently, quite, then, there [/i]).
[b]|\/. What exactly is an Adjective?[/b]
A word naming an attribute of a noun, such as [i]sweet, red, or technical.[/i]
[b]\/. What exactly is a Morpheme?[/b]
• A meaningful morphological unit of a language that cannot be further divided (e.g. in, come, -ing, forming incoming ).
• A morphological element considered in respect of its functional relations in a linguistic system.
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"Polysynthetic languages aren’t just about having words with one or more morphemes. [B]These languages operate on the base that sentence construction heavily relies on the use of many morphemes on a root word.[/b]
[i]Words that would normally be adjectives or adverbs in other languages are morphemes in polysynthetic languages.[/i] In some polysynthetic languages there isn’t just subject/verb agreement, but also objects might need to fall into agreement in person and number.
Here is an example from Nahuatl:
[b]Word[/b]: Nimitzt?tlamaquilt?z
[b]Morphemes[/b]: ni-mits-te?-tla-maki-lti?-s'
[b]Gloss[/b]: I-you-someone-something-give-CAUSATIVE-FUTURE
[b]Translation[/b]: "I shall make somebody give something to you"- gemhue
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The reason why taking the spaces out of your sentence doesn’t make an easily understandable word is because languages that actually are polysynthetic don’t just take away spaces and call it a word. [b]Each argument is marked for case (part of speech) at the very least, which allows speakers (and readers) to understand the sentence in any word order[/b].[/quote]
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[Columns] [b]Derivation:[/b]
water + fall = waterfall (compounding)
grace + ful + ly = gracefully (part of speech change)
un + happy = unhappy (negation)
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cat + s (pluralizer) = cats
[b]Bad: [/b]The cat were chasing the mice.
[b]Good:[/b] The cats were chasing the mice.
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run + s (3rd. sing.) = runs
[b]Bad:[/b] He run to catch the bus.
[b]Good:[/b] He runs to catch the bus.
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Credit to Gemhue like with the first quote.
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[Quote=simply said]
[b]Analytic: [/b]grammar expressed through words rather than morphology
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[b]Fusional[/b]: morphemes may not always be distinct or may be irregular, morphemes may have more than one meaning, may have grammatical case, may have grammatical gender
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[b]Agglutinative[/b]: morphemes are visibly distinct and occur regularly within words, each morpheme has only one grammatical meaning, always has grammatical case, may have grammatical gender
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[b]Polysynthetic[/b]: like agglutinative languages, but sentences can often be made of highly morphologically complex words, morphology is very distinct and regular, a single word may be composed of a verb and many arguments (each marked for case, person, and sometimes number or gender), verbs may be formed using noun incorporation
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"...it really is confusing the 's' being a shifty 'of' particle and the -n & -m being indicatives for numbers like Singular and plural. Because they are literally everywhere. And you just can't catch them..."
Examples: Annyhes (month of according to original thread) and lyfes (which, following this logic should mean instead the following: life of, beginning of ,innocence of ,youth of ,child/hatchling of) and I'm pretty sure that I spotted that pesky S somewhere else where it has no business being.
So to avoid such things, I'm going to set 'ka' as an 'of' particle. And open another can of worms in process. Because 'of' seems like a possessive particle.
Here some examples:
#1 Terry is a friend of mine. (He's my friend)
#2 A book of gold. (A book made from gold)
Hence why I said [i]seems[/i]. But then again, my language does rely on context a lot, so it really matters where 'ka' or 'of' is going to be.
Onto the -n and -m.
So originally they appear to indicate numbers like Singular and plural.
But why do I feel like- oh wait never mind, 'a' and 'e' are for genders, and the combination of them 'ea' or 'ae' is for pretty much genderless things. Great.
Leathym- waters and leathyn- water.
... But you can't count water by itself. You, really can't.
Although in my native water is from female 'gender' because we say 'she' when referring to the water. So uh..I guess you can??? As in 'one water' 'Z waters'?? (Because in context you mean bottle, glass, mug, etc. Something that contains the water. This way you don't have to constantly repeat yourself. This is an edit from 20th July. )
(Finding plot holes in other existing languages while thinking about mine, simply brilliant. )
Here's what route I'm going to go: I'm going to come up with words for both genders of a creature from the fauna kingdom + genderless for the babies for just in case. (Jk nope.)
The genderless will apply to flora, environmental objects, inanimate and animated objects (like mimics) and micro organisms.
Also you know what? Since I'm overhauling stuff, I'm just going to nullify the m and n.
Out with that! I'm going to temporarily put the original words as they are for a bit then swap them for the new tweaked versions.
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I'm setting the following rules (that I will test before applying):
-eh at the end of the word is genderless.
-ea is for female
-nu is for Male (on trial) alternatively "-he"
#1 Aderanu --no?
#2 Adenu --...[b]no[/b].
#3 Aderahe --hmm..-- Aderaeh -- [i]yes[/i]. Perfect word for offspring.
#4 What if I go literally? -- Adherany -Oh no!
#5 Adheranu -- [i]uuuh...[/i]no.
That..actually might work, for mate but not for husband. But what if I yeet the d?
#6 Aheranu --...meh? I mean, I'm getting somewhere with this?
#7 Anurahe -- 50/50. Why am I clinging to the 'ra' part? Let's yeet that as well!
#8 Anuhe - that doesn't even sound like a word used for husband.
#9 Ahenu --...Yes.
#10 Aenu-- I keep imagining Enu. So that's the word.
(M)
#1 Adeana
#2 Adaeny
Okay since yeeting the d did wonders with the previous word, how bout I do the same?
#3 Aeany --okay, good, I like it. But I still have to try out the other combo.
#4 Aeanea --Not bad, ok, let's see how far I can push this.
#5 Aeanae -- literally 4 but reversed and I like it more as I pronounce it.
#6 Anae -Better.
#7 Anea --Yes!
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[quote=#1]I'm going to set 'ka' as an indicative 'of'.
With the 'sa' being a possessive 'of' particle. [/quote]
Here some examples:
#1 Terry is a friend of mine. (He's my friend)
[i]Terry ult camnar sa maer./ Terry ayi camnar sa maer. [/i]
[Sub][i]Terry the friend of mine. / Terry is friend of mine. [/i][/sub]
#2 A book of gold. (A book made from gold)
[i]Nowatelume ka eturazol.[/i]
[Sub][i]Book of treasure. [/i] literally translated it would be 'Knowledge keeper of treasure.'[/sub]
[quote=#2]I'm setting the word tequ to be a starting 'the'.
Ult is also 'the' but indicative of something, whereas 'tequ' simply refers to it.[/quote]
Examples:
#1 The night is beautiful. (We simply refer to it,saying that it's beautiful. )
[i]Tequ aawlea ni etura.[/i]
[Sub][i]The night is good. [/i][/sub]
The book belongs to Maya.
[i]Nowatelu sault Maya.[/i]
[Sub]Lit: [i]Book of the Maya.[/i][/sub]
It's not explicitly told that the book belongs to her, but in context.
[quote=#3]Affixes
–[b]ti[/b] makes the word into an adjective
–ki --a place
–tú- a job.
–te- a suffix that indicates pluralization
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Examples:
Pinyote- chicks
Inehokite- forests
Honnokite-homes
[quote=#4]Genders of words, affixes
[b]–a--[/b] feminine, has to be in one of the last syllables to count. Or at the very tail of the word.
[b]–ùn[/b] --same thing but for masculine gender.
[b]–o [/b]--Neutral gender affix.
If none of these affixes is present within the word,then that word has no gender at all, i.e, is genderless. Such type of words are words for objects of the surrounding envoirment and non animated objects. + locations and places unless they have a name. (Trees,knifes,utensils and tools,etc.[/quote]
[quote=#5]Prefixes
[b]Nu[/b]– For negativity.[/quote]
Example: [i]nu[/i]maly (unhappy)
[quote=#6]Tense Examples:
#1 The fire is burning. (Present simple, the fire is burning [i]now.[/i])
[i]Tequ furinún ni olú.[/i] Literal translation: The fire be burning.
#2 The fire will be burning (soon). Future tense, the fire isn't burning yet but it [i]will be[/i].
[i]Gem'mo furinún olúpfezha.[/i] Glossary: Will be—fire–burning. [Verb + after ]
#3 The fire burnt Maya's diary. Past tense- it burnt before. [ Verb + before ]
[i]Tequ furinún olúzeul nowatelume sa Maya zal.[/i]
#4 Maya's mother make her cook dinner. (Causitive present) [ Verb + make + present ]
[i]Na'nána sa Maya weah nghuweni ha'gat.[/i] Glossary: Mother of Maya—make—verb—meal.
#5 I will make someone give something to you. (Causitive future) [ verb + make + after ]
[i]Na'àh gem'mo weahzal atømanu igremo ynma.[/i] Glossary: I—will make—someone—give—something—you.
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[b]Ni[/b]-be
[b]Atri[/b]-are
[b]Ahni[/b]-is
[b]Atni[/b]- am
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[quote=#8]Pronouns
I like some of the old pronouns so I decided to bring them back. But there are slight changes and tweaks.[/quote]
[Columns][Columns][item=barkskin watcher][nextcol]Ladies' pronnouns:
Formal vs Informal
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[Columns]Na'áh atni- I am
Ynma atri - You are
Weah ahni -She is
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Ynm'áte (You)
We'áhte (They)
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When using these pronouns, one adresses an important person. Therefore the tone and feel are still polite but also professionally detached.[/center][/quote]
Na'ava (I)
Yinwa (You)
Kynlaá (She)
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Na'a?vate (We)
Yinwate (You)
Kynlaáte (They)
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Dryads will attack dragons that attempt to cut or harvest any piece of their grove.
2000
Autumn Dryad
Familiar
The autumn dryad is often seen guiding local fauna to burrows or caves so that they are protected from the approaching colds of winter.
1675
Spotted Faun
Familiar
Unusually playful, a faun's interest can result in unintended mischief and mayhem.
2000
Grove Piper
Familiar
If one listens very carefully, they can follow the notes of a grove piper's song through even the darkest and most twisted forest maze. If the tune fades, best take a different path.
2000
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Rules are above
Basic notes but very important to keep in mind. wrote:
|. What exactly is a Noun?
A word (other than a pronoun) used to identify any of a class of people, places, or things ( common noun ), or to name a particular one of these ( proper noun ).
||. What exactly is a Verb?
• A word used to describe an action, state, or occurrence, and forming the main part of the predicate of a sentence, such as hear, become, happen.
• Use (a word that is not conventionally used as a verb, typically a noun) as a verb.
• Verbs are words that express action or state of being. There are three types of verbs: action verbs, linking verbs, and helping verbs. Action Verbs. Action verbs are words that express action (give, eat, walk, etc.) or possession (have, own, etc.). Action verbs can be either transitive or intransitive.
|||. What exactly is an Adverb?
A word or phrase that modifies or qualifies an adjective, verb, or other adverb or a word group, expressing a relation of place, time, circumstance, manner, cause, degree, etc. (e.g., gently, quite, then, there ).
|\/. What exactly is an Adjective?
A word naming an attribute of a noun, such as sweet, red, or technical.
\/. What exactly is a Morpheme?
• A meaningful morphological unit of a language that cannot be further divided (e.g. in, come, -ing, forming incoming ).
• A morphological element considered in respect of its functional relations in a linguistic system.
remember! wrote:
"Polysynthetic languages aren’t just about having words with one or more morphemes. These languages operate on the base that sentence construction heavily relies on the use of many morphemes on a root word.
Words that would normally be adjectives or adverbs in other languages are morphemes in polysynthetic languages. In some polysynthetic languages there isn’t just subject/verb agreement, but also objects might need to fall into agreement in person and number.
Here is an example from Nahuatl:
Word: Nimitzt?tlamaquilt?z Morphemes: ni-mits-te?-tla-maki-lti?-s' Gloss: I-you-someone-something-give-CAUSATIVE-FUTURE Translation: "I shall make somebody give something to you"- gemhue
The reason why taking the spaces out of your sentence doesn’t make an easily understandable word is because languages that actually are polysynthetic don’t just take away spaces and call it a word. Each argument is marked for case (part of speech) at the very least, which allows speakers (and readers) to understand the sentence in any word order.
also keep in mind! Difference between derivation and inflection wrote:
Derivation:
water + fall = waterfall (compounding)
grace + ful + ly = gracefully (part of speech change)
un + happy = unhappy (negation)
Inflection:
cat + s (pluralizer) = cats Bad: The cat were chasing the mice. Good: The cats were chasing the mice.
run + s (3rd. sing.) = runs Bad: He run to catch the bus. Good: He runs to catch the bus.
Credit to Gemhue like with the first quote.
simply said wrote:
Analytic: grammar expressed through words rather than morphology
Fusional: morphemes may not always be distinct or may be irregular, morphemes may have more than one meaning, may have grammatical case, may have grammatical gender
Agglutinative: morphemes are visibly distinct and occur regularly within words, each morpheme has only one grammatical meaning, always has grammatical case, may have grammatical gender
Polysynthetic: like agglutinative languages, but sentences can often be made of highly morphologically complex words, morphology is very distinct and regular, a single word may be composed of a verb and many arguments (each marked for case, person, and sometimes number or gender), verbs may be formed using noun incorporation
"...it really is confusing the 's' being a shifty 'of' particle and the -n & -m being indicatives for numbers like Singular and plural. Because they are literally everywhere. And you just can't catch them..."
Examples: Annyhes (month of according to original thread) and lyfes (which, following this logic should mean instead the following: life of, beginning of ,innocence of ,youth of ,child/hatchling of) and I'm pretty sure that I spotted that pesky S somewhere else where it has no business being.
So to avoid such things, I'm going to set 'ka' as an 'of' particle. And open another can of worms in process. Because 'of' seems like a possessive particle.
Here some examples:
#1 Terry is a friend of mine. (He's my friend)
#2 A book of gold. (A book made from gold)
Hence why I said seems. But then again, my language does rely on context a lot, so it really matters where 'ka' or 'of' is going to be.
Onto the -n and -m.
So originally they appear to indicate numbers like Singular and plural.
But why do I feel like- oh wait never mind, 'a' and 'e' are for genders, and the combination of them 'ea' or 'ae' is for pretty much genderless things. Great.
Leathym- waters and leathyn- water.
... But you can't count water by itself. You, really can't.
Although in my native water is from female 'gender' because we say 'she' when referring to the water. So uh..I guess you can??? As in 'one water' 'Z waters'?? (Because in context you mean bottle, glass, mug, etc. Something that contains the water. This way you don't have to constantly repeat yourself. This is an edit from 20th July. )
(Finding plot holes in other existing languages while thinking about mine, simply brilliant. )
Here's what route I'm going to go: I'm going to come up with words for both genders of a creature from the fauna kingdom + genderless for the babies for just in case. (Jk nope.)
The genderless will apply to flora, environmental objects, inanimate and animated objects (like mimics) and micro organisms.
Also you know what? Since I'm overhauling stuff, I'm just going to nullify the m and n.
Out with that! I'm going to temporarily put the original words as they are for a bit then swap them for the new tweaked versions.
I'm setting the following rules (that I will test before applying):
-eh at the end of the word is genderless.
-ea is for female
-nu is for Male (on trial) alternatively "-he"
#1 Aderanu --no?
#2 Adenu --...no.
#3 Aderahe --hmm..-- Aderaeh -- yes. Perfect word for offspring.
#4 What if I go literally? -- Adherany -Oh no!
#5 Adheranu -- uuuh...no.
That..actually might work, for mate but not for husband. But what if I yeet the d?
#6 Aheranu --...meh? I mean, I'm getting somewhere with this?
#7 Anurahe -- 50/50. Why am I clinging to the 'ra' part? Let's yeet that as well!
#8 Anuhe - that doesn't even sound like a word used for husband.
#9 Ahenu --...Yes.
#10 Aenu-- I keep imagining Enu. So that's the word.
(M)
#1 Adeana
#2 Adaeny
Okay since yeeting the d did wonders with the previous word, how bout I do the same?
#3 Aeany --okay, good, I like it. But I still have to try out the other combo.
#4 Aeanea --Not bad, ok, let's see how far I can push this.
#5 Aeanae -- literally 4 but reversed and I like it more as I pronounce it.
#6 Anae -Better.
#7 Anea --Yes!
#1 wrote:
I'm going to set 'ka' as an indicative 'of'.
With the 'sa' being a possessive 'of' particle.
Here some examples:
#1 Terry is a friend of mine. (He's my friend) Terry ult camnar sa maer./ Terry ayi camnar sa maer. Terry the friend of mine. / Terry is friend of mine.
#2 A book of gold. (A book made from gold) Nowatelume ka eturazol. Book of treasure. literally translated it would be 'Knowledge keeper of treasure.'
#2 wrote:
I'm setting the word tequ to be a starting 'the'.
Ult is also 'the' but indicative of something, whereas 'tequ' simply refers to it.
Examples:
#1 The night is beautiful. (We simply refer to it,saying that it's beautiful. ) Tequ aawlea ni etura. The night is good.
The book belongs to Maya. Nowatelu sault Maya. Lit: Book of the Maya.
It's not explicitly told that the book belongs to her, but in context.
#3 wrote:
Affixes
–ti makes the word into an adjective
–ki --a place
–tú- a job.
–te- a suffix that indicates pluralization
Genders of words, affixes –a-- feminine, has to be in one of the last syllables to count. Or at the very tail of the word. –ùn --same thing but for masculine gender. –o --Neutral gender affix.
If none of these affixes is present within the word,then that word has no gender at all, i.e, is genderless. Such type of words are words for objects of the surrounding envoirment and non animated objects. + locations and places unless they have a name. (Trees,knifes,utensils and tools,etc.
#5 wrote:
Prefixes Nu– For negativity.
Example: numaly (unhappy)
#6 wrote:
Tense Examples:
#1 The fire is burning. (Present simple, the fire is burning now.) Tequ furinún ni olú. Literal translation: The fire be burning.
#2 The fire will be burning (soon). Future tense, the fire isn't burning yet but it will be. Gem'mo furinún olúpfezha. Glossary: Will be—fire–burning. [Verb + after ]
#3 The fire burnt Maya's diary. Past tense- it burnt before. [ Verb + before ] Tequ furinún olúzeul nowatelume sa Maya zal.
#4 Maya's mother make her cook dinner. (Causitive present) [ Verb + make + present ] Na'nána sa Maya weah nghuweni ha'gat. Glossary: Mother of Maya—make—verb—meal.
#5 I will make someone give something to you. (Causitive future) [ verb + make + after ] Na'àh gem'mo weahzal atømanu igremo ynma. Glossary: I—will make—someone—give—something—you.
#7 wrote:
Ni-be Atri-are Ahni-is Atni- am
#8 wrote:
Pronouns
I like some of the old pronouns so I decided to bring them back. But there are slight changes and tweaks.
Barkskin Watcher
Familiar
It's not unheard of for dryads to form alliances with nature dragon clans.
2000
Ladies' pronnouns:
Formal vs Informal
Formal
Na'áh atni- I am
Ynma atri - You are
Weah ahni -She is
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Ynm'áte (You)
We'áhte (They)
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The formal pronouns lack the sense of semi-familliarity that informal ones have.
When using these pronouns, one adresses an important person. Therefore the tone and feel are still polite but also professionally detached.
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[Font=times new roman][color=#bfa488][i]Pronouns- The words we mainly use to address people,or dragons,familiars,and other things like objects from our surrounding environment, creatures,etc. without directly saying their name. [center][color=#8a4601][i][b]Part 2![/b][/i][/color][/center]
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[Font=times new roman][Size=3][b]Notes:[/b][/size]
[Size=2]• For this "section" I won't add the letters of the alphabet because-
A) It takes precious minutes that I probably wasted already.
And B) Don't feel like it's necessary since I likely will delve into grammar right away with them. I.e I start wrestling with the language's grammar after dealing with the pronouns.
• For the sake of simplicity to try and somehow counter the inevitable complexity, I will nullify a few rules from the old language. Actually: all rules are nullified! This is its own thing. So let's finally get down to mistake making!
[B]"when it comes down to pronouns, the gender and number of the things we're talking about is of much bigger significance." [/b][/Size]
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[Size=2]• It's worth to note that sage speech has separate pronouns for both gender.
• There are different forms for the pronouns in singular and plural;
• There's a set of pronouns for formal and informal;
(All of which are probably adaptations made by the speakers who first got access to the language)
• I'm doing a change here- Glottal stops are still question marks but the there are (') before the syllable that's stressed.
• I'm adding back the "m" and "n" for numbers.
• Macrons are out! If there are long vowels I'll just write the letter however much needed to show how long it is!
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[Size=6]Iri[/size]
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[Size=2]• For this "section" I won't add the letters of the alphabet because-
A) It takes precious minutes that I probably wasted already.
And B) Don't feel like it's necessary since I likely will delve into grammar right away with them. I.e I start wrestling with the language's grammar after dealing with the pronouns.
• For the sake of simplicity to try and somehow counter the inevitable complexity, I will nullify a few rules from the old language. Actually: all rules are nullified! This is its own thing. So let's finally get down to mistake making! [/Size]
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[Font=times new roman]So. Where to start with these?
The pronouns are usually used for people right? But the closest thing to people are the humanoid races known as 'beasts' or 'beastfolk'. And what are dragons in that regard? I hardly think that the word 'person' or 'people' really applies to them since, well, they're basically either flying magical lizards or magical flying dinosaurs...in other words:
Dragons are reptilians- reptiles instead of mammals like humans...or the humanoids.
While this little possibly one-sided conversation may seem irrelevant but it's actually fairly important. Because it also decides on what creatures are perceived as 'beasts'.
Just ponder on that for a moment:
Beastclans don't see themselves,probably, as monsters or what they are called by the dragons. So they're less likely to use that kind of word to, refer to themselves, instead possibly opting for the words 'person', 'people' or 'individual'- if some are trying to sound real fancy for some reason.
Therefore, they [the Beastclans] are much more likely to use the words 'beast', 'creature' or 'being' in regards to other organisms that don't hold familiar resemblance, like the various animals for instance. Or the monsters found around the place, and even- dragons.
Ok, same applies [i]for[/i] the dragons except it could be reversed. Or maybe they don't utilize those kind of words at all? Instead preferring to use the pronouns for one's gender and name? Yeah however that's not the best solution either, is it?
Maybe Dragonkind uses words like 'individual', 'fellow' or 'fella', 'drake', 'dragon' and even words that indicate the other dragon's age? Like 'hatchling', 'fledgling', 'teenager', 'adolescent', 'young adult', 'adult'?
It would otherwise (at least in my ears) sound rather odd and it's (again this is in my opinion) quite offputting. To better illustrate what I'm trying to say, here's a quick scenario of two dragons talking about another dragon.
In the first case they use some of the aforementioned words that I pointed out and in the next- the ones that are odd. Both scenarios will be put side to side for comparison.
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[b]1)[/b] Ray and Ara are sunbathing on nearby warmed sunlit boulders after a long day of duties and gathering.
A young Tundra male passes by their rocks and walks away, Ara starting up a conversation with her friend a moment later after the other has left.
"Oh,my gods,Ray did you just saw that?" She questions with a smug grin as she continues to watch the further departing furry dragon with glee.
Her comrade, Ray, hums quietly in response then speaks airily-
"Hm? Oh that Tundra who just passed by? What about him?" The skydancer asks, draping herself and shifting slightly on her rock to make herself more comfortable.
The Coatl turns her green gaze to her as she asks curiously:
"Who's he? Do you know him?"
Ray smiles and replies calmly, looking at the horizon distractedly-
" Kalun? Yeah, I know him- a nice drake to be honest, and, well, really quite a looker if I do say so myself."
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[b]2)[/b] Ray and Ara are sunbathing on nearby warmed sunlit boulders after a long day of duties and gathering.
A young Tundra male passes by their rocks and walks away, Ara starting up a conversation with her friend a moment later after the other has left.
"Oh,my gods,Ray did you just saw that?" She questions with a smug grin as she continues to watch the further departing furry dragon with glee.
Her comrade, Ray, hums quietly in response then speaks airily-
"Hm? Oh that Tundra who just passed by? What about him?" The skydancer asks, draping herself and shifting slightly on her rock to make herself more comfortable.
The Coatl turns her green gaze to her as she asks curiously:
"Who's he? Do you know him?"
Ray smiles and replies calmly, looking at the horizon distractedly-
" Kalun? Yeah, I know him- a nice person to be honest, and, well, really quite a looker if I do say so myself."
Ara snorts.
" Sure he is. Not bad for an adolescent. But he could look even better." [/Columns]
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[Font=times new roman]Now. I want you to take a close look at the scenarios and answer my question with a simple 'yes' or 'no'.
[center][Font=times new roman]Does something about the second scenario feel a little bit out of place? Jarring?[/center]
[Font=times new roman]If the answer is positive, then I believe you see my point.
I'm wasn't saying, that utilising such words is wrong by any means. Just that it doesn't sound very well.
If your hypothetical answer is negative however...Please have another look at both of them. No stressing, just reread them.
Alright with that finally out of the way, let's think about the language itself for a bit.
It's not called specifically Sage speech for no reason, right? So, this language has been primarily spoken by some sort of sages like the dragon deities or the Ancient seven deities before the elementals? Okay, were they [ the deities] aware of the Beastclans?
Short answer is yes.
To better make sense, now's a good moment to hop back to binge read the legend about the Ancients in order to fully understand what I'm babbling on about. Or maybe stick around regardless? The choice is yours, I don't mind either way.
Now here's the question: Did the Ancients (Sages) refer to the Beastclans as beasts or as something else? Like people? Taking into account that each of them is a remnant of the All mother who had been around when humans were still present...therefore each of them share collectively her memories of the Second age and the events that had transpired both after and before it....Probably.
After all, I doubt the All mother has viewed the humans and respectively, the Beastclans, as actual beasts.
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[Font=times new roman] And after that rather long Introduction to the whole thing, we at long last get to the meat of things- the Main event.
[i]I'm going to guess that when it comes down to pronouns, the gender and number of the things we're talking about is of much bigger significance. [/i]
But that whole brainstorming was still nice to do, and might come handy later on.
So...consider this part 1.
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So! Here it is-
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[center][Font=times new roman][Size=6]- - - -=×=×||Dictionary of Sage speech||×=×=- - - -[/size]
Here is where I will keep all of the words that I come up with for this language. [/center]
[Columns][Item=ancestral Incense][Nextcol][Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=olive]Root words[/color][/size]
[Color=#bfbc95]What I didn't pay much attention to-if not at all- when creating Old speech, was the factor of root words. So today I will start coining root words from which other words will follow, breaking off into two subcategories: Regular and Grammatical, the latter touching on the syntax and grammatical part that...I may not bother to mess with today.
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[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#d95050]A[/color][/size]
[b]Animal[/b]
[b]Act[/b]- Naq
[b]Attack[/b]- Kat'tax
[b]Attract[/b]- Ralluh
[b]Attempt[/b]- Erriene
[b]Attent[/b]- Lytes
[b]Arrive[/b]- Zauv
[b]Associate[/b]- Conekito
[b]Align[/b]- Haphra
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#db6618]B[/color][/size]
[b]Be[/b]- Vu
[b]Breath[/b]- Gawru
[b]Body[/b]- Typfu
[b]Bone[/b]- Tuk
[b]Back[/b]- Fluwan
[b]Beast[/b]- Frizyrak
[b]Being[/b]- Yutep
[b]Beak[/b]- Kaxhi
[b]Bake[/b]- Aemim
[b]Break[/b]- Kseth
[b]Bring[/b]- Bellro
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#db6618]C[/color][/size]
[b]Creature[/b]- Imnaegre
[b]Create[/b]- Imnaeg
[b]Craft[/b]- Itukte
[b]Cry[/b]- Aawrul
[b]Crease[/b]- Afalre
[b]Crawl[/b]- Sihepot
[b]Cook[/b]- Uwamim
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#ebc934]D[/color][/size]
[b]Do[/b]- Nu
[b]Doubt[/b]- Ruq
[b]Dive[/b]- Djitte
[b]Drink[/b]- Gle
[b]Drive[/b]- Zhiiri
[b]Divide[/b]- Xa'gat
[b]Divine[/b]- Ylaewlu
[b]Dragon[/b]- Fergoz
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#c0d128]E[/color][/size]
[b]Era[/b]- Tade
[b]Equal[/b]- Fuls
[b]Equip[/b]- Dzatu
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#4ead24]F[/color][/size]
[b]Fly[/b]- Lyfa
[b]Front[/b]- Turnuk
[b]Flight[/b]- Lyfatsa
[b]Fight[/b]- Ukat'tak
[b]Flee[/b]- Ryuveru
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#22ba38]G[/color][/size]
[b]Grab[/b]- Kurrat
[b]Grow[/b]- Hineho
[b]Gear[/b]- Atoru
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#22ba75]H[/color][/size]
[b]Heal[/b]- Medoral
[b]Heart[/b]- Btunra
[b]High[/b]- Syvaw
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#22baa8]I[/color][/size]
[b]Idea[/b]- Rawal
[b]Identity[/b]- Rawal Tego Yunri
[b]Idol[/b]- Ewlu
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#26cfde]J[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#268ede]K[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#264bde]L[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#3b26de]M[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#6f26de]N[/color][/size]
[b]No[/b]- Ume
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#de26de]O[/color][/size]
[b]One[/b]- Tego
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#de26b0]P[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#de268b]Q[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#de2676]R[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#de265d]S[/color][/size]
[b]oneself[/b]- Tego Yunri
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#de2647]T[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#de2626]W[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#ab1313]V[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#800808]X[/color][/size]
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#690707]Y[/color][/size]
[b]Yes[/b]- Veyh
[Font=times new roman][Size=4][color=#eb3838]Z[/color][/size]
It's not unheard of for dryads to form alliances with nature dragon clans.
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Pronouns, Pronouns- The words we mainly use to address people,or dragons,familiars,and other things like objects from our surrounding environment, creatures,etc. without directly saying their name.
Part 3 for the ladies!
Notes: • I believe the sounds found within the female pronouns are going to be ...a little more on the gentle and soft side unlike the lads where most of the sounds are slightly harsher or firmer.
• Definitely much less thrills here. Yep.
I mean, there still might be a few thrills here and there, but they're significantly less in comparison to the male pronouns.
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I
(Singular, Informal ) ====
You
(Singular, Informal ) ====
She
(Singular, Informal ) ====
We
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
We
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
You
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
You
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
They
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
They
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
Them
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
Them
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
We
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
You
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
You
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
They
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
They
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
Them
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
Them
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
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Jinma
[Yin'ma] ==== ====
Ynwa
[Inwa] ==== ====
Kynna
[Kin'na] ==== ====
Aqlahyn
[Akla'in] ==== ====
Aqlahym
[Akla'im] ==== ====
Wanan
[Wa'nan] ==== ====
Wanam
[Wa'nam] ==== ====
Allyin
[Al'lyin] ==== ====
Allyim
[Al'lyim] ==== ====
Qwayin
[Kwa'in] ==== ====
Qwayim
[Kwa'im] ==== ====
| Grammatical |==| Regular |
Grove Piper
Familiar
If one listens very carefully, they can follow the notes of a grove piper's song through even the darkest and most twisted forest maze. If the tune fades, best take a different path.
2000
Pronouns, Pronouns- The words we mainly use to address people,or dragons,familiars,and other things like objects from our surrounding environment, creatures,etc. without directly saying their name.
Part 2!
Notes: • For this "section" I won't add the letters of the alphabet because-
A) It takes precious minutes that I probably wasted already.
And B) Don't feel like it's necessary since I likely will delve into grammar right away with them. I.e I start wrestling with the language's grammar after dealing with the pronouns.
• For the sake of simplicity to try and somehow counter the inevitable complexity, I will nullify a few rules from the old language. Actually: all rules are nullified! This is its own thing. So let's finally get down to mistake making!
"when it comes down to pronouns, the gender and number of the things we're talking about is of much bigger significance."
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• There are different forms for the pronouns in singular and plural;
• There's a set of pronouns for formal and informal;
(All of which are probably adaptations made by the speakers who first got access to the language)
• I'm doing a change here- Glottal stops are still question marks but the there are (') before the syllable that's stressed.
• I'm adding back the "m" and "n" for numbers.
• Macrons are out! If there are long vowels I'll just write the letter however much needed to show how long it is!
I
(Singular, Informal ) ====
You
(Singular, Informal ) ====
He
(Singular, Informal ) ====
We
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
We
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
You
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
You
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
They
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
They
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
Them
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
Them
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Informal ) ====
We
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
You
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
You
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
They
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
They
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
Them
(Plural for 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
Them
(Plural for more than 2 individuals)
(Formal ) ====
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Meori
[Meohri] ==== ====
Tessuri
[Tis' suri] ==== ====
Irriv
[Ir'riv] ==== ====
Meorin
[Me'oh' rin] ==== ====
Meorim
[Me'oh'rim] ==== ====
Tessurin
[Te'su'rin] ==== ====
Tessurim
[Te'su'rim] ==== ====
Irriqyn
[Irri'kin] ==== ====
Irriqym
[Irri'kim] ==== ====
Irihkqin
[Irik'kin] ==== ====
Irihkqim
[Ir'yihk'kim] ==== ====
| Grammatical |==| Regular |
Spotted Faun
Familiar
Unusually playful, a faun's interest can result in unintended mischief and mayhem.
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Pronouns, Pronouns- The words we mainly use to address people,or dragons,familiars,and other things like objects from our surrounding environment, creatures,etc. without directly saying their name.
Notes: • For this "section" I won't add the letters of the alphabet because-
A) It takes precious minutes that I probably wasted already.
And B) Don't feel like it's necessary since I likely will delve into grammar right away with them. I.e I start wrestling with the language's grammar after dealing with the pronouns.
• For the sake of simplicity to try and somehow counter the inevitable complexity, I will nullify a few rules from the old language. Actually: all rules are nullified! This is its own thing. So let's finally get down to mistake making! So. Where to start with these?
The pronouns are usually used for people right? But the closest thing to people are the humanoid races known as 'beasts' or 'beastfolk'. And what are dragons in that regard? I hardly think that the word 'person' or 'people' really applies to them since, well, they're basically either flying magical lizards or magical flying dinosaurs...in other words:
Dragons are reptilians- reptiles instead of mammals like humans...or the humanoids.
While this little possibly one-sided conversation may seem irrelevant but it's actually fairly important. Because it also decides on what creatures are perceived as 'beasts'.
Just ponder on that for a moment:
Beastclans don't see themselves,probably, as monsters or what they are called by the dragons. So they're less likely to use that kind of word to, refer to themselves, instead possibly opting for the words 'person', 'people' or 'individual'- if some are trying to sound real fancy for some reason.
Therefore, they [the Beastclans] are much more likely to use the words 'beast', 'creature' or 'being' in regards to other organisms that don't hold familiar resemblance, like the various animals for instance. Or the monsters found around the place, and even- dragons.
Ok, same applies for the dragons except it could be reversed. Or maybe they don't utilize those kind of words at all? Instead preferring to use the pronouns for one's gender and name? Yeah however that's not the best solution either, is it?
Maybe Dragonkind uses words like 'individual', 'fellow' or 'fella', 'drake', 'dragon' and even words that indicate the other dragon's age? Like 'hatchling', 'fledgling', 'teenager', 'adolescent', 'young adult', 'adult'?
It would otherwise (at least in my ears) sound rather odd and it's (again this is in my opinion) quite offputting. To better illustrate what I'm trying to say, here's a quick scenario of two dragons talking about another dragon.
In the first case they use some of the aforementioned words that I pointed out and in the next- the ones that are odd. Both scenarios will be put side to side for comparison. - - -- - -×- - -××- - -- - - - - - - - -- - -- - -×- - -××- - -- - - - - - - - -- - -- - -×- - -××- - -- - - - - - - - -- - -- - -×- -
1) Ray and Ara are sunbathing on nearby warmed sunlit boulders after a long day of duties and gathering.
A young Tundra male passes by their rocks and walks away, Ara starting up a conversation with her friend a moment later after the other has left.
"Oh,my gods,Ray did you just saw that?" She questions with a smug grin as she continues to watch the further departing furry dragon with glee.
Her comrade, Ray, hums quietly in response then speaks airily-
"Hm? Oh that Tundra who just passed by? What about him?" The skydancer asks, draping herself and shifting slightly on her rock to make herself more comfortable.
The Coatl turns her green gaze to her as she asks curiously:
"Who's he? Do you know him?"
Ray smiles and replies calmly, looking at the horizon distractedly-
" Kalun? Yeah, I know him- a nice drake to be honest, and, well, really quite a looker if I do say so myself."
Ara snorts.
" Sure he is. Not bad for an adolescent. But he could look even better."
2) Ray and Ara are sunbathing on nearby warmed sunlit boulders after a long day of duties and gathering.
A young Tundra male passes by their rocks and walks away, Ara starting up a conversation with her friend a moment later after the other has left.
"Oh,my gods,Ray did you just saw that?" She questions with a smug grin as she continues to watch the further departing furry dragon with glee.
Her comrade, Ray, hums quietly in response then speaks airily-
"Hm? Oh that Tundra who just passed by? What about him?" The skydancer asks, draping herself and shifting slightly on her rock to make herself more comfortable.
The Coatl turns her green gaze to her as she asks curiously:
"Who's he? Do you know him?"
Ray smiles and replies calmly, looking at the horizon distractedly-
" Kalun? Yeah, I know him- a nice person to be honest, and, well, really quite a looker if I do say so myself."
Ara snorts.
" Sure he is. Not bad for an adolescent. But he could look even better."
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Does something about the second scenario feel a little bit out of place? Jarring?
If the answer is positive, then I believe you see my point.
I'm wasn't saying, that utilising such words is wrong by any means. Just that it doesn't sound very well.
If your hypothetical answer is negative however...Please have another look at both of them. No stressing, just reread them.
Alright with that finally out of the way, let's think about the language itself for a bit.
It's not called specifically Sage speech for no reason, right? So, this language has been primarily spoken by some sort of sages like the dragon deities or the Ancient seven deities before the elementals? Okay, were they [ the deities] aware of the Beastclans?
Short answer is yes.
To better make sense, now's a good moment to hop back to binge read the legend about the Ancients in order to fully understand what I'm babbling on about. Or maybe stick around regardless? The choice is yours, I don't mind either way.
Now here's the question: Did the Ancients (Sages) refer to the Beastclans as beasts or as something else? Like people? Taking into account that each of them is a remnant of the All mother who had been around when humans were still present...therefore each of them share collectively her memories of the Second age and the events that had transpired both after and before it....Probably.
After all, I doubt the All mother has viewed the humans and respectively, the Beastclans, as actual beasts. And after that rather long Introduction to the whole thing, we at long last get to the meat of things- the Main event. I'm going to guess that when it comes down to pronouns, the gender and number of the things we're talking about is of much bigger significance.
But that whole brainstorming was still nice to do, and might come handy later on.
So...consider this part 1.
So! Here it is-
- - - -=×=×||Dictionary of Sage speech||×=×=- - - -
Here is where I will keep all of the words that I come up with for this language.
Ancestral Incense
Dragonmade
A potent incense that allows one to commune with their ancestors. (Designed by EW)
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Root words What I didn't pay much attention to-if not at all- when creating Old speech, was the factor of root words. So today I will start coining root words from which other words will follow, breaking off into two subcategories: Regular and Grammatical, the latter touching on the syntax and grammatical part that...I may not bother to mess with today.
| Regular |==| Grammatical |
A Animal
Act- Naq
Attack- Kat'tax
Attract- Ralluh
Attempt- Erriene
Attent- Lytes
Arrive- Zauv
Associate- Conekito
Align- Haphra
B Be- Vu
Breath- Gawru
Body- Typfu
Bone- Tuk
Back- Fluwan
Beast- Frizyrak
Being- Yutep
Beak- Kaxhi
Bake- Aemim
Break- Kseth
Bring- Bellro
C Creature- Imnaegre
Create- Imnaeg
Craft- Itukte
Cry- Aawrul
Crease- Afalre
Crawl- Sihepot
Cook- Uwamim
D Do- Nu
Doubt- Ruq
Dive- Djitte
Drink- Gle
Drive- Zhiiri
Divide- Xa'gat
Divine- Ylaewlu
Dragon- Fergoz
E Era- Tade
Equal- Fuls
Equip- Dzatu
F Fly- Lyfa
Front- Turnuk
Flight- Lyfatsa
Fight- Ukat'tak
Flee- Ryuveru
G Grab- Kurrat
Grow- Hineho
Gear- Atoru
H Heal- Medoral
Heart- Btunra
High- Syvaw
I Idea- Rawal
Identity- Rawal Tego Yunri
Idol- Ewlu
J
K
L
M
N No- Ume
O One- Tego
P
Q
R
S oneself- Tego Yunri
T
W
V
X
Y Yes- Veyh
Z
Clan Tainted shadows
—————————— Lore clan
+9H FR
"Don't forget to smile from time to time."