Llanai wrote on 2016-05-23:
This whole thing is a massive WIP and things like that simply haven't been decided yet. The numbering system's still a bit of a mess... This is definitely something we'd like to add soon though, and we'd take any thoughts you have into consideration.
That being said, the running headcanon for me so far as passage of time is that each IRL day equates to roughly 15 days in Sornieth.
Moraglar wrote on 2016-05-23:
I noticed you have Singular and Plural structures in there. Have you thought about adding other number situations? In several human languages we also sometime have Dual grammatical number. Could it be feasible in Ursegal? Or maybe other Set grammatical number, humans are pretty used to sets of two, five and ten, but what about dragons? Dual can also be used, see pairs of wings, pairs of forelegs, pairs of eyes, usually (looking at at you, Miirrors)...
Banjo wrote on 2016-05-23:
We haven't talked about months yet, but I really like the idea of using that kind of "rotting moon" system to name them. I think we'll steal it >.> And I actually have no clue about how we might name or number years. I'll have to have a big ol discussion with the team for that one.
@ Moraglar
Thank you! Our number system is a huge work and progress and very, very messy at the moment (I kind of just want to overhaul it), but I think in the future things like numbered groups would go a long way in Ursegal.
It seem like numbers are largely unexplored for Ursegal. (I can't wait to see this more fleshed out. It's going to go from awesome to epic!)
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@ Llanai
I know there's a thread somewhere where the Staff actually vaguely outlines how time passes on Sornieth. But I'm not sure where to look to find it.
It would definitely be helpful here, so I'll search for it when I get the chance.
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@ Banjo
Lol, I’m glad you like the moon-names idea. ^-^ It’s not mine, and the original creator said it was free to use.
I can dig up the old thread and copy/paste the names that were listed(then you guys can decide which to use and how to translate them), if you want?
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Moraglar mentioned how humans tend to use 2, 5, & 10 for quick counting.
It would be easier to use these groupings, so that us humans could more easily count and number in Ursegal, but I think dragons, especially the ones in Sornieth would have evolved a different grouping system.
I typed out this chart to help me think, but then I figured you might find it interesting too:
Humans:
Fae:
Guardians:
Mirror:
Pearlcatchers:
Ridgebacks:
Tundras:
Spirals:
Imperials:
Snappers:
Wildclaws:
Nocturnes:
Coatls:
Skydancers:
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2 hands/feet -
2 hands/feet/wings -
2 hands/feet/wings -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
2 h/f/w -
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5 fingers/toes -
3 fingers, 4 toes, 5 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 5 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 5 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 5 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 2 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 3 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 3 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 1? wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 1? wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 1? wingfingers -
3 fingers, 2 toes, 3 wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 1? wingfingers -
4 fingers/toes, 4 wingfingers -
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The majority of current dragon breeds have 4 fingers or toes, with the exceptions of Nocturnes and Fae, so maybe a system with groupings of 2, 4, and 8? Counting wingfingers for anything won’t work, obviously. But also, a 2, 5, 10 system might be simpler. That’s pretty much up to you guys, but maybe this will give you some ideas?
(I actually favor a 3, 7, 10 system; but I don’t have any logical reason for why, I just like the aesthetic. XD )
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On an off-topic note: there aren't any words in the dictionary for ‘fingers’, ‘toes’, or ‘wing-fingers’, but I think these should all be distinguished with different words, similar to the words you have for ‘front paws’ and ‘hind paws’.
P.S. I don’t know if I explained anything above clearly, as I’m typing while slightly sleep-deprived. Apologies ahead of time for any vagueness, confusion, and/or rambling. XD