General Discussion

[quote name="LuciDatum" date="2019-07-22 11:56:03" ] I'm going to watch the new one today, but I'm betting I'll prefer the original. My only hangup for the remake is that the characters look... underwhelming? Especially Scar... real lions can have black manes, why not Scar himself? Keep it matty and nasty but just... black mane- And by that I mean the genetic defect, not the darker manes being healthier, of course x3 That isn't including the lack of differentiation imbetween unique characters Sacrificing characterization for realism is a no-no, imo, but seeing it realistically is pretty cool I guess [/quote] OKAY So. After watching it, I can proudly say the the original is [b]better[/b]. Now, I like that they're doing this, to show a new generation, but the CGI always bothered me. I'm an artist that animates in a certain way, so the idea of animation I enjoy is not realism - it's expressionism. I saw one case of proper emotion throughout the film, and that's the very end of it, where Simba looks down in horror at going against what he originally said. If I'm remembering right, that was an accident, and should have been retribution. I did like the new jokes and tidbits, so it is worth a watch, but watch it not in the theater? It's not worth the big screen. Be Prepared IS in the movie as well. It's also about 30 seconds long. Sad. The voice actors irked me as well. I don't know their names, but young Simba starts with a generic ghetto accent while young Nala sounds like an American accent, and then adult Simba sounds like a surfer dude and adult Nala sounds like she's from Wakanda. Make up your mind, if you're going to choose an accent. Also Scar has a black mane. Just didn't show itself in the trailers- TL;DR - Watch it at home, just don't be disappointed-

[quote name="Zoic" date="2019-07-22 19:09:45" ] [quote name="LuciDatum" date="2019-07-22 15:00:21" ] The voice actors irked me as well. I don't know their names, but young Simba starts with a generic ghetto accent while young Nala sounds like an American accent, and then adult Simba sounds like a surfer dude and adult Nala sounds like she's from Wakanda. Make up your mind, if you're going to choose an accent. [/quote] I understand (but respectfully disagree) if you didn’t like the voice actors, but calling them “ghetto” strikes me as rather inconsiderate and in bad taste. JD McCrary (young Simba) is a very talented performer for his age- and he’s only 12. There’s no need to insult his “accent” just because you personally didn’t think it was consistent throughout the film. [/quote] Talented or not, he truely sounds purposely downgraded (which is a good term to replace ghetto with) i assume its true that all voice actors got told to turn thier emotions in voice some knocks down as this rumor is spreading around yt atm. This might caused the generic sounding accent, as he was not allowed to express himself aka Simba more fittint to the situation (not the facial expression as those lack hard) the kid is good, but like any other voice actor we should not sugar coat when one feels like they dont did thier best in a role, he could have done so much better from what i hear from the movies & songs gave his voice to.

[quote name="LuciDatum" date="2019-07-22 11:56:03" ] I'm going to watch the new one today, but I'm betting I'll prefer the original. My only hangup for the remake is that the characters look... underwhelming? Especially Scar... real lions can have black manes, why not Scar himself? Keep it matty and nasty but just... black mane- And by that I mean the genetic defect, not the darker manes being healthier, of course x3 That isn't including the lack of differentiation imbetween unique characters Sacrificing characterization for realism is a no-no, imo, but seeing it realistically is pretty cool I guess Proof of black manes: [img]https://live.staticflickr.com/5802/21805273385_22ab48d65b_b.jpg[/img] [img]https://c8.alamy.com/comp/ANAD1M/side-view-portrait-of-male-lion-with-patchy-black-mane-and-bloodied-ANAD1M.jpg[/img] It could have been this- [/quote] Scar is not the dominant male. Dominant males have black or dark manes which lion ladies love.

[quote name="Yuubi" date="2019-07-23 09:52:42" ] the kid is good, but like any other voice actor we should not sugar coat when one feels like they dont did thier best in a role, he could have done so much better from what i hear from the movies & songs gave his voice to. [/quote] That’s fair to say! I enjoyed the voice cast of both the original and the remake, but I understand that not everyone feels the same way. I just objected to the original poster’s word choice.

The remake isn't half bad. It's accurate in the plot, but I find the realistic style a bit boring. For example, who could forget the bright, colorful, and extravagant animations from I Just Can't Wait to Be King in the original? The remake, being realistic, cannot go as far in the visual effects and color department. So the remake lacks charm in that way.

Which is why I prefer the original. The remake cannot replace the charisma and identity that the original has.

Original, the new one looks wayyy too dull.

Original. Just cause Disney can CGI everything, doesn't mean they should.

far and away the original, I mean you're comparing a classic to a cash grab that was essentially a shot-for-shot copy of the original, but without any of the expression and creativity.

tbf the remake delivered perfectly on what it was supposed to be: the CGI was excellent and I thought the voice acting was good. but it's the concept itself that kills this movie, something produced only to make money was always going to wind up flat and soulless.

I'm really curious about how this performed with its target audience though, I can't imagine this was very appealing to kids? ofc families went to see it bc it was so heavily marketed but I just can't see "national geographic documentary with celebrity voiceovers" being something most younger children would get much out of, especially compared against the color and liveliness of the original.