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There are users who grind for hours most days. If the drop rates were generous, the economy would suffer for it.
Imagination is the reality of our dreamscape.
No support for the reason the person above me gave. The coli is an unlimited money maker and drop rates are pretty well balanced. For something like genes that were mentioned, most are pretty cheap on the AH and if not, either they’re a new release or they’re python. Genes drop too commonly, imo, to the point where I have so many ancient genes in my vault that I’ll never use. Unfortunately, they’re only 2-3g each on the AH so at some point, they’ll probably all get hoardsold, sending them back into the void.
No support for the reason the person above me gave. The coli is an unlimited money maker and drop rates are pretty well balanced. For something like genes that were mentioned, most are pretty cheap on the AH and if not, either they’re a new release or they’re python. Genes drop too commonly, imo, to the point where I have so many ancient genes in my vault that I’ll never use. Unfortunately, they’re only 2-3g each on the AH so at some point, they’ll probably all get hoardsold, sending them back into the void.
[quote name="Corviknight" date="2023-04-30 02:31:22" ]
If you want tons of skins, Festive Favors are right there. It's not te Coli you should be farming.
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I definitely don’t farm the coli a whole lot, that was sort of the point of this post
Corviknight wrote on 2023-04-30 02:31:22:
If you want tons of skins, Festive Favors are right there. It's not te Coli you should be farming.
[quote name="Zenzic" date="2023-04-30 03:49:45" ]
There are users who grind for hours most days. If the drop rates were generous, the economy would suffer for it.
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i think generous drop rates is the wrong thing i’m looking for- i’m talking about like a 5-10% increased drop rate of things like Flutter for example. just…. one less hour or even a 15-30 minutes of my time to get that item. i simply cannot be here over and over and over again for it esp when you don’t have to do that elsewhere in the game
Zenzic wrote on 2023-04-30 03:49:45:
There are users who grind for hours most days. If the drop rates were generous, the economy would suffer for it.
the coliseum just feels unfair man- and it’s such a key aspect of this game for festivals and whatnot
the coliseum just feels unfair man- and it’s such a key aspect of this game for festivals and whatnot
[quote name="glowstink" date="2023-04-30 06:21:22" ]
the coliseum just feels unfair man- and it’s such a key aspect of this game for festivals and whatnot
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i guess not necessarily festivals cause yes Festive Favors- but coli-exclusive items
glowstink wrote on 2023-04-30 06:21:22:
the coliseum just feels unfair man- and it’s such a key aspect of this game for festivals and whatnot
[quote name="glowstink" date="2023-04-29 23:35:15" ]
[quote name="ceiswyn" date="2023-04-29 22:06:18" ]
What item do you think the drop rates are too low for?
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tbh? everything… the amount of things you get per battle just doesn’t feel worth it after you’ve done the coliseum for awhile, say 30 battles. sometimes you get straight up nothing- but usually you get… a food item, and a material that usually doesn’t have a whole lot of uses (after youve applied them to hib slots or something like that)… but that’s usually about it. after 30 minutes, an hour, and hour and a half, it just gets old.
i would also say in comparison to arlo, baldwin, etc, the coliseum genes are ridiculously hard to come by- and even when you do 9/10 it isn’t the one you’re there for- so you have to sit with the recognition that that was the gene you got and you will have to wait a significant amount of time before you can get another. i guess that’s the nature of the game, the grinding of it- but this site has a wide range of people, many of which just don’t have the hours to dedicate to it.
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i would also like to reiterate the first paragraph here
glowstink wrote on 2023-04-29 23:35:15:
ceiswyn wrote on 2023-04-29 22:06:18:
What item do you think the drop rates are too low for?
i would also say in comparison to arlo, baldwin, etc, the coliseum genes are ridiculously hard to come by- and even when you do 9/10 it isn’t the one you’re there for- so you have to sit with the recognition that that was the gene you got and you will have to wait a significant amount of time before you can get another. i guess that’s the nature of the game, the grinding of it- but this site has a wide range of people, many of which just don’t have the hours to dedicate to it.
i feel you on this tbh but really coli needs an overhaul in general - people have asked for years for it to be more accessible and for the camping system to be improved and it just... hasn't been
in fact the last update to camping made it entirely worse
in fact the last update to camping made it entirely worse
i feel you on this tbh but really coli needs an overhaul in general - people have asked for years for it to be more accessible and for the camping system to be improved and it just... hasn't been
in fact the last update to camping made it entirely worse
in fact the last update to camping made it entirely worse
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[quote name="hungryhobbits" date="2023-04-30 06:30:34" ]
i feel you on this tbh but really coli needs an overhaul in general - people have asked for years for it to be more accessible and for the camping system to be improved and it just... hasn't been
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i am about to graduate college. i remember being an incoming freshman and still being annoyed with the state of the coliseum but just trying to suck it up because i figured it would be updated soon- it’s been 4 years and we got so many genes that no one asked for but not a single update to the coli (again, that i’ve seen)
hungryhobbits wrote on 2023-04-30 06:30:34:
i feel you on this tbh but really coli needs an overhaul in general - people have asked for years for it to be more accessible and for the camping system to be improved and it just... hasn't been
OP, it looks like you're actually struggling at least in part because of your Coli dragons!
I could only find two level 25 dragons; both were statted in ways that are sub-optimal. While the Coliseum can be obscure at times, following an optimized build, preferably with three dragons, will speed you up considerably.
When you're talking about the Coli and grinding, most people are going to use Glass Cannons as a reference. They do not have the points you've put into AGI, VIT, DEF, etc, but they hit hard and fast and that speeds battles up considerably, especially once you've got three.
You are definitely correct that the Coli isn't optimized for a party of two sub-optimally statted dragons— and my apologies if I simply missed the third! I looked through a few times but have been known to miss things. And, who knows, maybe having an optimally statted party won't make your experience any better— but honestly if someone is having that little fun in the Coli, I'd rather there be more avenues for them to spend time and get stuff on the site (i.e. Adventure Mode, which we will eventually get).
There are plenty of people who don't touch Coli and still manage to have an enjoyable experience on site. Coli stuff tends to be massively cheap after a while— because there are so many people spending so much time there that even most of the rare items become commonplace, and the ultra-rare items are going to be hard for anyone to find for a reason. Pretty Pink Mums for the Blossom gene retain value even now because Gathering is limited; every trade/Baldwin item, as well as genes, from the Coli absolutely tanks after a while, which makes it pretty accessible to non-Coli players!
If you really do want to Coli, I definitely recommend optimizing your builds. It doesn't seem like it would do a lot, but even a little bit of time save is a lot. Ideally you should be able to one-shot enemies in Training Fields and Woodland Path with Scratch— Woodland Path gives you a fast, easy place to get food and loot. Past that, you should be able to one-shot Eliminate with the middle venues. While it looks like you only have one Eliminate, that still speeds up your battles a lot. And finally, you should be able to Scratch-eliminate everything else.
The exception, obviously, being if you have your Eliminate dragon statted as a 2-fodder trainer— which they are not, currently. In that instance, battles will be a bit slower, but training your other dragon(s) as farmers will still make a difference with speed— just not as much.
It's also worth saying that FR already drastically upped the drop rates from what they were originally, when even food was rare! You should be getting an item of food from almost every enemy defeated these days, with trinkets being mildly rarer but not by much; if you're not getting those, that's a bug, not a feature, and might be worth going on Bug Reports if you've been seeing the same pattern consistently for years. Going fast, with optimized dragons, should make grinding for food very easy. Rare loot is, of course, much rarer, but that's by design and not something that needs to be fixed. I find that even if I only have time for a few battles per day I'm getting something for my troubles, and it doesn't take very long at all.
I could only find two level 25 dragons; both were statted in ways that are sub-optimal. While the Coliseum can be obscure at times, following an optimized build, preferably with three dragons, will speed you up considerably.
When you're talking about the Coli and grinding, most people are going to use Glass Cannons as a reference. They do not have the points you've put into AGI, VIT, DEF, etc, but they hit hard and fast and that speeds battles up considerably, especially once you've got three.
You are definitely correct that the Coli isn't optimized for a party of two sub-optimally statted dragons— and my apologies if I simply missed the third! I looked through a few times but have been known to miss things. And, who knows, maybe having an optimally statted party won't make your experience any better— but honestly if someone is having that little fun in the Coli, I'd rather there be more avenues for them to spend time and get stuff on the site (i.e. Adventure Mode, which we will eventually get).
There are plenty of people who don't touch Coli and still manage to have an enjoyable experience on site. Coli stuff tends to be massively cheap after a while— because there are so many people spending so much time there that even most of the rare items become commonplace, and the ultra-rare items are going to be hard for anyone to find for a reason. Pretty Pink Mums for the Blossom gene retain value even now because Gathering is limited; every trade/Baldwin item, as well as genes, from the Coli absolutely tanks after a while, which makes it pretty accessible to non-Coli players!
If you really do want to Coli, I definitely recommend optimizing your builds. It doesn't seem like it would do a lot, but even a little bit of time save is a lot. Ideally you should be able to one-shot enemies in Training Fields and Woodland Path with Scratch— Woodland Path gives you a fast, easy place to get food and loot. Past that, you should be able to one-shot Eliminate with the middle venues. While it looks like you only have one Eliminate, that still speeds up your battles a lot. And finally, you should be able to Scratch-eliminate everything else.
The exception, obviously, being if you have your Eliminate dragon statted as a 2-fodder trainer— which they are not, currently. In that instance, battles will be a bit slower, but training your other dragon(s) as farmers will still make a difference with speed— just not as much.
It's also worth saying that FR already drastically upped the drop rates from what they were originally, when even food was rare! You should be getting an item of food from almost every enemy defeated these days, with trinkets being mildly rarer but not by much; if you're not getting those, that's a bug, not a feature, and might be worth going on Bug Reports if you've been seeing the same pattern consistently for years. Going fast, with optimized dragons, should make grinding for food very easy. Rare loot is, of course, much rarer, but that's by design and not something that needs to be fixed. I find that even if I only have time for a few battles per day I'm getting something for my troubles, and it doesn't take very long at all.
OP, it looks like you're actually struggling at least in part because of your Coli dragons!
I could only find two level 25 dragons; both were statted in ways that are sub-optimal. While the Coliseum can be obscure at times, following an optimized build, preferably with three dragons, will speed you up considerably.
When you're talking about the Coli and grinding, most people are going to use Glass Cannons as a reference. They do not have the points you've put into AGI, VIT, DEF, etc, but they hit hard and fast and that speeds battles up considerably, especially once you've got three.
You are definitely correct that the Coli isn't optimized for a party of two sub-optimally statted dragons— and my apologies if I simply missed the third! I looked through a few times but have been known to miss things. And, who knows, maybe having an optimally statted party won't make your experience any better— but honestly if someone is having that little fun in the Coli, I'd rather there be more avenues for them to spend time and get stuff on the site (i.e. Adventure Mode, which we will eventually get).
There are plenty of people who don't touch Coli and still manage to have an enjoyable experience on site. Coli stuff tends to be massively cheap after a while— because there are so many people spending so much time there that even most of the rare items become commonplace, and the ultra-rare items are going to be hard for anyone to find for a reason. Pretty Pink Mums for the Blossom gene retain value even now because Gathering is limited; every trade/Baldwin item, as well as genes, from the Coli absolutely tanks after a while, which makes it pretty accessible to non-Coli players!
If you really do want to Coli, I definitely recommend optimizing your builds. It doesn't seem like it would do a lot, but even a little bit of time save is a lot. Ideally you should be able to one-shot enemies in Training Fields and Woodland Path with Scratch— Woodland Path gives you a fast, easy place to get food and loot. Past that, you should be able to one-shot Eliminate with the middle venues. While it looks like you only have one Eliminate, that still speeds up your battles a lot. And finally, you should be able to Scratch-eliminate everything else.
The exception, obviously, being if you have your Eliminate dragon statted as a 2-fodder trainer— which they are not, currently. In that instance, battles will be a bit slower, but training your other dragon(s) as farmers will still make a difference with speed— just not as much.
It's also worth saying that FR already drastically upped the drop rates from what they were originally, when even food was rare! You should be getting an item of food from almost every enemy defeated these days, with trinkets being mildly rarer but not by much; if you're not getting those, that's a bug, not a feature, and might be worth going on Bug Reports if you've been seeing the same pattern consistently for years. Going fast, with optimized dragons, should make grinding for food very easy. Rare loot is, of course, much rarer, but that's by design and not something that needs to be fixed. I find that even if I only have time for a few battles per day I'm getting something for my troubles, and it doesn't take very long at all.
I could only find two level 25 dragons; both were statted in ways that are sub-optimal. While the Coliseum can be obscure at times, following an optimized build, preferably with three dragons, will speed you up considerably.
When you're talking about the Coli and grinding, most people are going to use Glass Cannons as a reference. They do not have the points you've put into AGI, VIT, DEF, etc, but they hit hard and fast and that speeds battles up considerably, especially once you've got three.
You are definitely correct that the Coli isn't optimized for a party of two sub-optimally statted dragons— and my apologies if I simply missed the third! I looked through a few times but have been known to miss things. And, who knows, maybe having an optimally statted party won't make your experience any better— but honestly if someone is having that little fun in the Coli, I'd rather there be more avenues for them to spend time and get stuff on the site (i.e. Adventure Mode, which we will eventually get).
There are plenty of people who don't touch Coli and still manage to have an enjoyable experience on site. Coli stuff tends to be massively cheap after a while— because there are so many people spending so much time there that even most of the rare items become commonplace, and the ultra-rare items are going to be hard for anyone to find for a reason. Pretty Pink Mums for the Blossom gene retain value even now because Gathering is limited; every trade/Baldwin item, as well as genes, from the Coli absolutely tanks after a while, which makes it pretty accessible to non-Coli players!
If you really do want to Coli, I definitely recommend optimizing your builds. It doesn't seem like it would do a lot, but even a little bit of time save is a lot. Ideally you should be able to one-shot enemies in Training Fields and Woodland Path with Scratch— Woodland Path gives you a fast, easy place to get food and loot. Past that, you should be able to one-shot Eliminate with the middle venues. While it looks like you only have one Eliminate, that still speeds up your battles a lot. And finally, you should be able to Scratch-eliminate everything else.
The exception, obviously, being if you have your Eliminate dragon statted as a 2-fodder trainer— which they are not, currently. In that instance, battles will be a bit slower, but training your other dragon(s) as farmers will still make a difference with speed— just not as much.
It's also worth saying that FR already drastically upped the drop rates from what they were originally, when even food was rare! You should be getting an item of food from almost every enemy defeated these days, with trinkets being mildly rarer but not by much; if you're not getting those, that's a bug, not a feature, and might be worth going on Bug Reports if you've been seeing the same pattern consistently for years. Going fast, with optimized dragons, should make grinding for food very easy. Rare loot is, of course, much rarer, but that's by design and not something that needs to be fixed. I find that even if I only have time for a few battles per day I'm getting something for my troubles, and it doesn't take very long at all.
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