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[quote name="Unrest" date="2024-12-19 17:31:36" ] If your answer to eliminates not being accesible is lol don’t farm any venue beyond level 15 then it’s not a good answer. [/quote] That's not what this suggestion is for and not even what I said in the section you quoted, so. Okay. I'm glad we are agreed.

No support for taking Eliminate away from Tomo. I think that she AND Pinkerton both should give them out. Hell, why not let everyone at the Trading Post have a chance to give one out. Making important items more accessible to players is a good thing. Gameplay is more important than artificially elevated "value".

[quote name="Gryphonlady" date="2024-12-20 14:38:32" ] [quote name="@Almedha" date="2024-12-18 20:25:56" ] That is, eliminates are easier to get in lower venues where you use scratch as opposed to the higher venues where you use eliminates. <...> I don't have a problem with eliminate being more available. I wanted it to drop in mire (assuming it doesn't currently... I don't remember) and I'm glad familiars drop items now. [/quote] You appear to be operating from outdated information regarding where Eliminate can be dropped. As part of the Game Database release in 2019, Eliminate was moved to new drop lists, taking it out of all venues below level 11 (Blooming Grove). This means players can no longer farm Training Fields and other low-level venues to get this drop and have it readily available for their use when they hit level 7 (the level at which the stone can be equipped). Farming level 11+ zones without Eliminate is a very slow process, especially for players developing their first coli team, and it can prove a serious bottleneck in progression and dissuade players from continuing to use the Coli for being a unfun, grindy experience. With regards to Pinkerton: unless the staff completely reworks how his loot pool functions, he will not be getting Eliminate; he is capped at a lower rarity tier and cannot generate items above that tier. It actually caused an achievement to have to be removed during the achievement relaunch last year. [/quote] Well, dang, no wonder. Thanks for telling me. If they want to make eliminate more accessible, then there you go. They should put Eliminate back to venues below that. I think I got my first one in Scorched Forest. But I do think that it's not a terrible experience to do Forgotten Cave without elim? I did that recently.

[quote name="Almedha" date="2024-12-20 14:44:05" ] /snip If they want to make eliminate more accessible, then there you go. They should put Eliminate back to venues below that. /snip [/quote] With all due respect, this still wouldn't work well for those who are unable to play coliseum, even the lower levels due to lack of time or physical ailments. I myself have carpal and repetitive strain injuries in my fingers so i'm limited on how much coli i can do, and most days i don't do it at all. While i don't need any more elims myself, there may be others who do still need it and who would greatly benefit from having it drop from Tomo. That said, i wouldn't mind it being placed back into lower level venues alongside adding it to Pinkerton - but i'm still going to maintain my no support on removing it from Tomo due to the aforementioned reasons.

I haven't had an eliminate drop for me in years, be it during dom battles, last NotN, festivals, etc, and this is with quite a few hours in singular sessions despite my burning distaste for the coliseum as it currently is.

Add it to more NPCs. Let us brew it. Dig it up from Arlo's - that'll help burn through my 1000+ magnifying glasses. Finally give it to Pinkerton already. Make it a familiar bonding drop. Have it show up in every gathering field sometimes. Make it the first Fairgrounds drop on this site. At least put it in all coliseum venues. That thing's artificial* worth should plummet like every other battle stone, doubly so when the coliseum is even more "unfun" without it. The very first complaint I'd seen several years back when Galore gave a few elims out to every user able to pick it up was about lost profits. Make it more accessible, not less.

*Correction since it wasn't clear enough: artifically inflated worth.

[quote name="BlooTheDragon" date="2024-12-20 15:12:40" ] [quote name="Almedha" date="2024-12-20 14:44:05" ] /snip If they want to make eliminate more accessible, then there you go. They should put Eliminate back to venues below that. /snip [/quote] With all due respect, this still wouldn't work well for those who are unable to play coliseum, even the lower levels due to lack of time or physical ailments. I myself have carpal and repetitive strain injuries in my fingers so i'm limited on how much coli i can do, and most days i don't do it at all. While i don't need any more elims myself, there may be others who do still need it and who would greatly benefit from having it drop from Tomo. That said, i wouldn't mind it being placed back into lower level venues alongside adding it to Pinkerton - but i'm still going to maintain my no support on removing it from Tomo due to the aforementioned reasons. [/quote] Yeah, I get that. What I don't get is how ten tries a day in an activity that doesn't allow for any keyboard control is better than an activity that does - except for the captcha, you can keep your mouse in the same place and otherwise never touch it - except that activity is obviously limited to twenty clicks per day.

[quote name="Zonai" date="2024-12-20 15:39:51" ] I haven't had an eliminate drop for me in years, be it during dom battles, last NotN, festivals, etc, and this is with quite a few hours in singular sessions despite my burning distaste for the coliseum as it currently is. Add it to more NPCs. Let us brew it. Dig it up from Arlo's - that'll help burn through my 1000+ magnifying glasses. Finally give it to Pinkerton already. Make it a familiar bonding drop. Have it show up in every gathering field sometimes. Make it the first Fairgrounds drop on this site. At least put it in all coliseum venues. That thing's artificial worth should plummet like every other battle stone, doubly so when the coliseum is even more "unfun" without it. The very first complaint I'd seen several years back when Galore gave a few elims out to every user able to pick it up was about lost profits. Make it more accessible, not less. [/quote] I don't personally care about lost profits. I care about Tomo having it. Also...? Everything on this site has an "artificial worth." At least eliminate's value comes in part from it's utility. Unless it is eventually sold in the MP, I think it will always be a valuable stone. It's basically the cornerstone of the economy all on its own. It is an infinitely-generating-stone-of-cash. That's why people care about its worth. If you mess with eliminate, then you essentially mess with the whole f2p part of the game. The reason that Flight Rising is around as long as it has been is because its economy has always been fairly stable. I think most people care about the game's longevity, and part of that longevity comes from that: things like eliminate feel valuable. It seems obvious that the value isn't entirely made up - if you grant that everything in the game is made up and requires a certain scarcity in order to be a game at all. I agree eliminates should drop from gathering, for sure, though. I think it'd be funny to drop from hunting, fishing, and insect gathering. I'm not sure about Arlo - I personally hate Arlo and I would personally prefer if we didn't have him at all, so I'd never suggest him as a legitimate alternative to obtain anything. I think it'd make most sense if Arvelle sold it during Warrior's Way or something. But none of this really matters to me. I don't think Tomo should have it. That's all. It's really not that deep.

Naw, they should have done this awhile ago because no one bothers with the daily quiz. [emoji=aberration tongue size=2]

[quote name="Almedha" date="2024-12-20 16:08:41" ] /snip I don't personally care about lost profits. I care about Tomo having it. /snip But none of this really matters to me. I don't think Tomo should have it. That's all. It's really not that deep. [/quote] I say this as kindly as possible but it feels like this is very much just a personal nitpick than something that is a genuine issue. Adding it to Tomo has been a mostly positive thing, for reasons i and others have stated a few times on this thread. And while yes i still agree with adding elim drops to other venues and NPC's, taking it from Tomo at this point would be a bit silly (Unless she suddenly starts dropping them with every correct answer lol). It's purely a gameplay mechanic to help make it more accessable and honestly the fan lore ideas are very funny. Just overall there's not really anything wrong with her having it. [emoji=aether tongue size=2]