Huge support as well! Seconding others’ points that more trinkets and especially Mimic Powder should be used, and less food should be required for trades also.
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Huge support as well! Seconding others’ points that more trinkets and especially Mimic Powder should be used, and less food should be required for trades also.
Support. Five days into NOTN and yep I am hopelessly dependent on grinding for food while drowning in trinkets. And the wild thing is that earlier this year I actually hoard sold everything I had not realizing I would need them for the event! Now I’ve got plenty of stacks.
Support. Five days into NOTN and yep I am hopelessly dependent on grinding for food while drowning in trinkets. And the wild thing is that earlier this year I actually hoard sold everything I had not realizing I would need them for the event! Now I’ve got plenty of stacks.
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Hoardselling the landslide of trinkets does technically exist as a "solution" to the issue, but it's one that feels fundamentally wrong to do. No amount of coli is helping. I am being crushed to death under hundreds upon hundreds of trinkets.
If anyone thinks people are exaggerating, please go check the AH prices on leaf insects vs. mirrors, two halves of the same trade. The imbalance is absolutely wild at the time of this writing--180g for a stack of leaf insects, and 7 gems for a stack of mirrors. It is broken.
If anyone thinks people are exaggerating, please go check the AH prices on leaf insects vs. mirrors, two halves of the same trade. The imbalance is absolutely wild at the time of this writing--180g for a stack of leaf insects, and 7 gems for a stack of mirrors. It is broken.
Hoardselling the landslide of trinkets does technically exist as a "solution" to the issue, but it's one that feels fundamentally wrong to do. No amount of coli is helping. I am being crushed to death under hundreds upon hundreds of trinkets.
If anyone thinks people are exaggerating, please go check the AH prices on leaf insects vs. mirrors, two halves of the same trade. The imbalance is absolutely wild at the time of this writing--180g for a stack of leaf insects, and 7 gems for a stack of mirrors. It is broken.
If anyone thinks people are exaggerating, please go check the AH prices on leaf insects vs. mirrors, two halves of the same trade. The imbalance is absolutely wild at the time of this writing--180g for a stack of leaf insects, and 7 gems for a stack of mirrors. It is broken.
[quote name="Xaotician" date="2023-12-21 13:22:37" ]
Hoardselling the landslide of trinkets does technically exist as a "solution" to the issue, but it's one that feels fundamentally wrong to do. No amount of coli is helping. I am being crushed to death under hundreds upon hundreds of trinkets.
If anyone thinks people are exaggerating, please go check the AH prices on leaf insects vs. mirrors, two halves of the same trade. The imbalance is absolutely wild at the time of this writing--180g for a stack of leaf insects, and 7 gems for a stack of mirrors. It is broken.
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my inventory [b]after trade-ins post coli grind[/b]
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Xaotician wrote on 2023-12-21 13:22:37:
Hoardselling the landslide of trinkets does technically exist as a "solution" to the issue, but it's one that feels fundamentally wrong to do. No amount of coli is helping. I am being crushed to death under hundreds upon hundreds of trinkets.
If anyone thinks people are exaggerating, please go check the AH prices on leaf insects vs. mirrors, two halves of the same trade. The imbalance is absolutely wild at the time of this writing--180g for a stack of leaf insects, and 7 gems for a stack of mirrors. It is broken.
If anyone thinks people are exaggerating, please go check the AH prices on leaf insects vs. mirrors, two halves of the same trade. The imbalance is absolutely wild at the time of this writing--180g for a stack of leaf insects, and 7 gems for a stack of mirrors. It is broken.
my inventory after trade-ins post coli grind
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The balance desperately needs adjusting. In my hoard right now is
Food: 13, 32, 39, 27, 13, 38, 25, 25
Trinkets: 235, 565, 450, 305, 182, 345, 399, 150.
And I've been grinding and exchanging a lot this week.
Food: 13, 32, 39, 27, 13, 38, 25, 25
Trinkets: 235, 565, 450, 305, 182, 345, 399, 150.
And I've been grinding and exchanging a lot this week.
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You wouldn't believe how long it took to get some of the food numbers as high as they are and still not have enough for one trade. Toss in enemies dodging every other turn and I swear I'm gonna be more stress than person at any moment.
(Apologies the items are all locked and faded as a result, I don't wanna deal with unlocking them temporarily just for screenshots lol)
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get some of the food numbers as high as they are and still not have enough for one trade. Toss in enemies dodging every other turn and I swear I'm gonna be more stress than person at any moment.
(Apologies the items are all locked and faded as a result, I don't wanna deal with unlocking them temporarily just for screenshots lol)
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Went hunting through suggestions for a post just like this. It really needs to be be balanced better, I'm swimming in mirrors this year and have no way of really getting leaf insects to make up for it so I have loads of a completely useless item. The trades should be 1:1 at this point or the food drop rates need to be higher. Please change something about this!
Went hunting through suggestions for a post just like this. It really needs to be be balanced better, I'm swimming in mirrors this year and have no way of really getting leaf insects to make up for it so I have loads of a completely useless item. The trades should be 1:1 at this point or the food drop rates need to be higher. Please change something about this!
Okay, coming back to this with some numbers. Google sheet for calculations can be seen here. (see bottom of post for methods)
The trading post ratios for strange chests are as follows - 21:9 or 9:4 ratio, which is approx. 2:1 food:trinket.
Just from gathering & familiar bonding, it seems to be around 8.9%(± 0.89%) Strange chest, 46.4%(± 5.2%) Trinket, 44.7%(±5.9%) Food. (Including mimic powder)
Excluding mimic powder, since arguably that's not useful for the strange chest trades, it comes out to closer to 9.0% (± 0.86%) Strange chest, 43.5% (± 5.3%) Trinket, 47.5%(± 6.0%) Food.
This comes out to about a 1:1 ratio, meaning that if someone doesn't do the coli/does minimal coli (such as myself) then they're always going to have to a wealth of trinkets while never enough food items. While I do understand the the coli is a potential solution to this imbalance, I personally dislike it and would genuinely rather bond with all of the familiars in my hoard, which doesn't fix the unbalanced ratio.
So, yeah, support for making the chest trades closer to a 1:1 ratio, or swapping the required food:trinkets numbers.
Methods:
- Data tabulated over the course of five days, using 15 gathering turns and bonding with all the familiars attached to my dragons. (between 153 - 160, depending if one reached awakened and I swapped it out or not)
- However, day 1's data doesn't include mimic powder(I forgot it existed), so it is excluded from the first reported percentages, and included in the second. This appears to cause a slightly higher standard dev for including mimic powder.
- Trading post drops aren't included in this, since I think some of them have different #'s for drops.
- Deposited all grand exchange items to my vault before doing "runs" - gathering & then familiar bonding - and then added the non-vault grand exchange items to the google sheet.
The trading post ratios for strange chests are as follows - 21:9 or 9:4 ratio, which is approx. 2:1 food:trinket.
Just from gathering & familiar bonding, it seems to be around 8.9%(± 0.89%) Strange chest, 46.4%(± 5.2%) Trinket, 44.7%(±5.9%) Food. (Including mimic powder)
Excluding mimic powder, since arguably that's not useful for the strange chest trades, it comes out to closer to 9.0% (± 0.86%) Strange chest, 43.5% (± 5.3%) Trinket, 47.5%(± 6.0%) Food.
This comes out to about a 1:1 ratio, meaning that if someone doesn't do the coli/does minimal coli (such as myself) then they're always going to have to a wealth of trinkets while never enough food items. While I do understand the the coli is a potential solution to this imbalance, I personally dislike it and would genuinely rather bond with all of the familiars in my hoard, which doesn't fix the unbalanced ratio.
So, yeah, support for making the chest trades closer to a 1:1 ratio, or swapping the required food:trinkets numbers.
Methods:
- Data tabulated over the course of five days, using 15 gathering turns and bonding with all the familiars attached to my dragons. (between 153 - 160, depending if one reached awakened and I swapped it out or not)
- However, day 1's data doesn't include mimic powder(I forgot it existed), so it is excluded from the first reported percentages, and included in the second. This appears to cause a slightly higher standard dev for including mimic powder.
- Trading post drops aren't included in this, since I think some of them have different #'s for drops.
- Deposited all grand exchange items to my vault before doing "runs" - gathering & then familiar bonding - and then added the non-vault grand exchange items to the google sheet.
Okay, coming back to this with some numbers. Google sheet for calculations can be seen here. (see bottom of post for methods)
The trading post ratios for strange chests are as follows - 21:9 or 9:4 ratio, which is approx. 2:1 food:trinket.
Just from gathering & familiar bonding, it seems to be around 8.9%(± 0.89%) Strange chest, 46.4%(± 5.2%) Trinket, 44.7%(±5.9%) Food. (Including mimic powder)
Excluding mimic powder, since arguably that's not useful for the strange chest trades, it comes out to closer to 9.0% (± 0.86%) Strange chest, 43.5% (± 5.3%) Trinket, 47.5%(± 6.0%) Food.
This comes out to about a 1:1 ratio, meaning that if someone doesn't do the coli/does minimal coli (such as myself) then they're always going to have to a wealth of trinkets while never enough food items. While I do understand the the coli is a potential solution to this imbalance, I personally dislike it and would genuinely rather bond with all of the familiars in my hoard, which doesn't fix the unbalanced ratio.
So, yeah, support for making the chest trades closer to a 1:1 ratio, or swapping the required food:trinkets numbers.
Methods:
- Data tabulated over the course of five days, using 15 gathering turns and bonding with all the familiars attached to my dragons. (between 153 - 160, depending if one reached awakened and I swapped it out or not)
- However, day 1's data doesn't include mimic powder(I forgot it existed), so it is excluded from the first reported percentages, and included in the second. This appears to cause a slightly higher standard dev for including mimic powder.
- Trading post drops aren't included in this, since I think some of them have different #'s for drops.
- Deposited all grand exchange items to my vault before doing "runs" - gathering & then familiar bonding - and then added the non-vault grand exchange items to the google sheet.
The trading post ratios for strange chests are as follows - 21:9 or 9:4 ratio, which is approx. 2:1 food:trinket.
Just from gathering & familiar bonding, it seems to be around 8.9%(± 0.89%) Strange chest, 46.4%(± 5.2%) Trinket, 44.7%(±5.9%) Food. (Including mimic powder)
Excluding mimic powder, since arguably that's not useful for the strange chest trades, it comes out to closer to 9.0% (± 0.86%) Strange chest, 43.5% (± 5.3%) Trinket, 47.5%(± 6.0%) Food.
This comes out to about a 1:1 ratio, meaning that if someone doesn't do the coli/does minimal coli (such as myself) then they're always going to have to a wealth of trinkets while never enough food items. While I do understand the the coli is a potential solution to this imbalance, I personally dislike it and would genuinely rather bond with all of the familiars in my hoard, which doesn't fix the unbalanced ratio.
So, yeah, support for making the chest trades closer to a 1:1 ratio, or swapping the required food:trinkets numbers.
Methods:
- Data tabulated over the course of five days, using 15 gathering turns and bonding with all the familiars attached to my dragons. (between 153 - 160, depending if one reached awakened and I swapped it out or not)
- However, day 1's data doesn't include mimic powder(I forgot it existed), so it is excluded from the first reported percentages, and included in the second. This appears to cause a slightly higher standard dev for including mimic powder.
- Trading post drops aren't included in this, since I think some of them have different #'s for drops.
- Deposited all grand exchange items to my vault before doing "runs" - gathering & then familiar bonding - and then added the non-vault grand exchange items to the google sheet.
Support, I have too many trinkets, I dont know what to do with them
Support, I have too many trinkets, I dont know what to do with them
Support. I'm sick of all the trinkets and dust. It's completely ridiculous at this point.
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Support. I'm sick of all the trinkets and dust. It's completely ridiculous at this point.
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I hate this dust so much
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I hate this dust so much
