Suggestions

There are many other players who have other things to do with their lives, including work, family, school and a host of other things going on, but they still manage to either log in enough to keep their dragons fed, or they don't bother worrying about it because the dragons don't die.

The fact is, what a player puts into the game is what they get out. If you can't get online daily to feed your dragons, then your dragons go hungry. If you don't have five minutes a day/every other day to log on, that's okay, because the dragon's don't die, and clearly you prioritize other things. But, because you do prioritize other things, that means you won't get the same things from the game, one of which includes having your dragon's always fed.

As for your idea not hurting anything? No, it doesn't really 'hurt' anything, but online games are meant to be played daily. That is how they get their money. If they can get players to log on and view one page every day, that is better than players logging on every other day and viewing one page. (yes, the optimum is to have the players stay on the game and view multiple pages with multiple page refreshes), so something that would allow players who don't want to log in every day, but want their dragons fed, to simply be able to come on once a week or whatever, and click one button then forget about it? that isn't something a site wants to encourage. That is why most sites do have daily logon bonuses and streaks for logging in every day, because that is what earns them money.

I don't actively play Aywas much anymore, but, because of their streaks, I log on every day and click a few pages, which brings them money. That is better than me just forgetting aywas except for the occasional 'what is happening' check on the news, and then ultimately forgetting about aywas completely.

I am, in fact, glad that FR *doesn't* have streaks like Aywas and many other sites, and has a more casual 'well if you want your well fed bonus, log in at least every other day' (because I don't have to feed my dragons daily, I can let them go a day before I have to feed them) approach to the entire 'lets encourage people to log in as often as possible'

that is why I don't support the suggestion, not because I am offended, and I doubt there is anyone else who is offended either (which, to be honest, when someone pulls 'you don't have to be offended card' it sounds like *they* are the ones who are offended). I don't think it would be good for the site to encourage *fewer* logons, and thus don't think it is in the sites best interest to introduce 'auto-play' features to allow players to play without logging on.

Well, since you pinged me, I'm apparently the offended one. I made the post I did since it seemed like the original suggestion wasn't taking into consideration why websites like to encourage daily visiting and aren't likely to take steps to remove those incentives.

I'm genuinely baffled that my comment was apparently taken as being offended and intended to be a personal attack rather than what it literally was: A probing question about how the suggestion would interact with other features of the game, followed up by a short explanation of why the suggestion as presented was contrary to the goals of the site.

There's no offense to be taken at people not having time for a free game. However, that doesn't mean that it's unreasonable for a game run largely on advertising money to implement incentive structures that encourage daily login, and acknowledging that fairly basic game structure is not an attack.

@Adventuretime

Ah, okay.

Yeah, I can understand that not everyone has time to log in every day.

I fortunately have that time to do so, but I rememeber when I first started neopets, I was on dialup, and only had an hour or two a day for the internet, and there was so much I wanted to do in that time slot, but dial up. So, I had to budget my time and at the time it meant I couldn't really get into a lot of sites, especially image heavy ones (which is where my dislike of the ability of players to load pages up with images come from) because I simply didn't have the time to put into it what I wanted.

I just see the 'don't get offended, it is just a suggestion' used so often to try to negate what those people are saying (basically something along the lines of 'Well, your point is invalid because you were offended by something I said, so therefore you are just reacting instead of thinking'). It tends to be used more often to shut down opposition than it is to genuinely mean that the poster thought the other person was offended by the suggestion.

Anyway, I also wanted to explain my reasoining a bit more, and I realized that the other part, the part about needing to encourage daily or 'as often as they can' play, so something that would encourage 'log on every once in a while to click a button' wouldn't be a good idea hadn't been addressed fully.

[quote name="luccamajere" date="2020-04-23 08:15:24" ] If it is specifically the look of the low energy bars that bothers you, maybe your other suggestion, to have a toggle to hide those. That could totally work and doesn't seem like it would harm anyone or take revenue from the site. [/quote] As long as it's only hidden for the owner, and still visible for other users, support. Well, thinking about it, the energy level of someone else's lair isn't anyone else's business, yes, but on the rare occasions when someone is arranging a trade with a lair that hides their energy bar, if it's hidden for everyone, you wouldn't know whether you're buying a dragon with full energy or a starving one, and that might lead to buyer's clan energy dip below 80% after trade. Just a little added thought.

Support but:

No well fed bonus

What if it had a cap timeframe, like a vacation feeder?

"Oh, I'll be away for 3 days, let me set up a feeder for then"
but have to log back in to extend or modify the feeder?

Words are hard, hope it's clear.

ETA: maybe the feeder has a set limit, like 2 weeks. After that it would make sense to just put them into the hibernal den imo