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[center][b][u][size=5]Welcome to the Breeding Project Hub![/size][/u][/b][/center] This hub is intended to be a place where people can share their breeding project journeys, while also showing off their dragons - project pairs, family trees, and final successes - and swapping advice! Here you can [list] [*] have fun and friendly discussions about breeding projects [*] vent about breeding project struggles [*] show off and celebrate project successes [*] keep track of ongoing projects [*] reminisce about old project journeys [*] shame your pairs for wegging you over and over [*] anything else related to breeding projects! [/list] Go forth and HAVE FUN! The original text of my post is below: ----- ----- ----- Hello! I just wanted to vent about the chaos of my breeding project, and maybe this could turn into a long-standing thread for people to rant and rave about their breeding projects? At the very least I need to amuse myself while I wait for breeding cooldowns to deplete. ----- Here is my project. I am aiming for an Auburn/Auburn/Buttercup female. My plan for her is an Aberration, with Harlequin/Jester/Smirch. I won't post a scry here since I try to avoid looking at my plans too often before I produce the target, because I want the obtainment to be a special moment when I finally get to look at my creation. But you can of course go to the Scrying Workshop and take a look. I'm someone who really likes XXY browns/golds, so fortunately I already had a pair that would work, an Aub/Aub/Ivory boy and an Aub/Aub/Buttercup girl. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93573754][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/935738/93573754_350.png[/img][/url] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/98351588][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/983516/98351588_350.png[/img][/url] So I just had to produce a clone of the mom, and I had a 25% chance to do so. I bred the pair twice and got five eggs in total, and none of them were the target. Now, that's not horrible luck. It's barely over odds. I'd expect a project to easily go over odds, even reach 2x odds without hitting the target. But those five eggs took over a month to produce. If I kept going, would it be another month before I reached 2x odds? Would it be 2 months? Would I get the target by then or would I be approaching 10+ eggs with no result? My mind was starting to spiral. After the second dud nest, I started a [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92881824#dragon-profile-bio]"20 day grinding challenge"[/url] to help pass the time before my male would be able to breed again. I listed an item on the AH every day since that's the grind I dislike the most. I've been keeping up with it but it's not very fun to me. I reached about day 6, broke, and shiny hunted Dipplin. [img alt="Screenshot of shiny Dipplin and shiny Hydrapple on the beach"]https://imgur.com/JhSbWxF.png[/img] instructions unclear, pixel dragons game??? (I already hunted the shiny Hydrapple a few months ago) That helped for a little while. I'd also been sporadically checking Dragon Search to see if an Aub/Aub/Butter female would just show up. She hadn't. But I had a brain blast and decided to check for males - because if I had a male I could breed with my female Aub/Aub/Butter, then I'd have 50% odds instead of 25%. Luckily I found one (CHECK ASSAY BLOODLINES) and was able to buy it. And he was a Fae, so shorter breeding cooldown! Soon my Buttery lady will begin an officially sanctioned snake-breeding-morality affair. But..........he was a Fae. My girl is a Fae. That would mean I'd have a maximum potential of four eggs per nest. I thought about whether or not I could stomach this. Was doubling the odds enough? What if I got a small nest and didn't hit the target? What if I decided to breed-change the male later on and regretted not doing it sooner? How do I get the shiny charm in FR again??? Are they only in JoxBoxes??!?!?!?! If I 4448 4448 in a CR will someone trade me a foreign Ditto?!?!??@?!?!>?@?>!?! Anything besides ENG, any IVs will do!!!!!!! I bought a Tundra scroll from a dom shop. 40+kt spent. Then I started scrying him. I like this color combo. Of course I do. That's why I want an Abby girl with it. Por que no Tundra boy tambien? I picked out some genes and realized I liked him with Veined. Baldwin. Another 50kt spent. Here he is. As of now I'm still waiting for the gene to brew, so he might look like a Fae for a while. But soon he will be Tundry. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/98770319][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/987704/98770319_350.png[/img][/url] Listen, I've done breeding projects before. I've done [i]worse[/i] breeding projects before. I've had plenty of successes too! But every single time my brain goes through these 7.3 stages of grief. Now I'm just putting it out there for the whole world to see. They breed in two days. I am unwell. ----- Share your breeding project stories! I want all the sordid details! I want it to be LONG! Give me something to read while I agonizingly wait for my dragons to breed and my eggs to hatch! Give me updates on a current project, tell a horror story about a past breeding project, or gush about your amazing good luck and successful projects! Post your dragons! I'll leave likes! aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAA

My best luck wishes to you on this horribly chaotic auburn XXY love triangle journey! The target abby plan looks really pretty, XXY brown-gold is an extremely good color scheme, so it'll all be worth it :D [s]surely 1/2 odds will be kind, right???[/s] Those three unsuccessful buttercup [i]guy[/i]s and [i]not buttercup[/i] girls are terrifying btw, if even a 1/2 will manage to not give a girl I think it might be an actual curse. /silly I have done at least two breeding projects in the past (all for fandragons) which reached the target colors and gender after a couple nests, and then whom I looked at the price of genes for and immediately stopped caring about lmao, so I thought I have developed some sort of resistance to project insanity by now, but uh... I guess I forgot how painful it is. Recently I had found a new fandragon with an Extremely Specific Scry Idea that I needed to have. Luckily this time the genes are cheap and my saving ability has improved. I make the scry on my computer, I save it, I take a break. Later, I open the scrying workshop on a phone with I guess a different screen/color balance. The scry looks wrong, a different secondary color looks better. Both secondaries are light blue. The first choice was ice, the other is cornflower. Ice, get back to the other blues god darn it. Ok, I say, I'll just start both projects at the same time, and whatever gets me the correct colors and pose first I'll keep. The ice version happens to have a lot more available dragons in close range. The first nest of a pair with a 1/12 chance gives me the correct everything. I gene him up, dress him up, show him off everywhere, my life revolves around this guy. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/101772677][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/1017727/101772677.png[/img][/url] But this aint about him. Problem is, [b]I still want the cornflower.[/b] First pair I managed to get is a 7*2*2*2(pose)=1/56 chance. Disgusting, but it's a start. And both of them are plentifuls so the cooldown is not bad. The very first nest they spit out a [i]one-off in primary color with perfect everything else[/i]. And it is a primary color on the same side from the target as the other two female potential mates I had found. They are actually just mocking me. Then another pair, that looked worse because the odds were big on primary and secondary, but turns out they are slightly better - 4*3*2*2=1/48. Still disgusting tho. And it's a spiral and a pearlcatcher. The closest they managed is 3 off in primary and in secondary. The hatchling's range with the female from the first pair could produce the target result but the odds were actually [b]worse[/b] than the first pair by itself. Ehhhhhh. And then I ran out of space in the lair. XD Bought another 5 slots, which finally got me to 100! Achievement I guess. The first pair kindly spit out a girl, this time with a 1 off on the secondary instead. Her chances with the guy from the second pair are 3*4*2(pose)=1/24 which is still horrendous but so much better than the initial pairs that it actually gives me hope. And at this point I have found an excuse to not care about the pose (be it by relying on a pose change scroll, specifically making a canonical gender-bent version of the character, or just by putting the correct pronouns in the bio), so really it's just a 1/12 and I have a precedent of that going [i]extremely[/i] well, [i]surely[/i] that was not just insane luck and will not take anywhere upwards of [size=2]14*12/30[/size] uhhh [i]6 more months?????[/i] While waiting for everyone to get off of cooldowns I have even found a way to start a leisurely third breeding project for a different character with a much vaguer color goal that is achievable by matching a dragon from the first project that was aiming for ice secondary with a mate from the cornflower secondary, as long as they can produce a cream or white primary. Soon I will probably just start breeding them randomly just to have [i]something[/i] happening instead of them just sitting there taking up space and eating my food. The boredom and anxiety is real. Also none of the pairs are two of the same modern breed, but all nests have so far been either 2 (twice) or 3 (4 times) eggs. I am the very model of a normal distribution, I guess.

@StoryWanderer omg I LOVED reading your post - so painful yet so relatable XD I've actually given Gintoki a like before because he IS very pretty :D and ooooh the madness of Ice vs. Cornflower but then still wanting the Cornflower, I FEEL that, I've never experienced it with dragons thankfully but I've definitely experienced it in other parts of my life, trying to convince myself that something is good enough but what if it could be [i]perfect[/i]...lol. I have toyed with the pose scroll idea before, but surely now my 50% chance will render that unnecessary...right??? Watch them throw five eggs of all males [emoji=skull size=1] Thanks for the well wishes, and best of luck with your crazy Cornflower breeding project! And hopefully your third project spits out some fun combos!

@bugbug88 Thank you!! ahahah long-form ranting turned out more fun than expected x) And you can see that I was [i]not joking[/i] about showing Gin off everywhere lmao, I'm not surprised at all that you've seen him before. [quote name="bugbug88" date="2025-04-07 17:11:28" ] -snip- trying to convince myself that something is good enough but what if it could be [i]perfect[/i]...lol. -snip- [/quote] It keeps being like that somehow, huh. Good thing I can't make choices to save my life xD [img alt="a gif from The Road to El Dorado of the two guys nodding their heads, with subtitles reading: Both. Both is good."]https://c.tenor.com/EstKpPVveyYAAAAC/tenor.gif[/img] The spin-off third project pair is going to hatch their 3-egg nest tomorrow actually, so if even they give something acceptable before the cornflower does, that will be the corniest joke ever ahah get it-

@StoryWanderer peak gif, peak corny joke, I'm weeping thank you

My last breeding project went perfectly. I found one half on the AH, bought the other out of someone's fodder tab. Neither was more than 15k. My goal was a male with the right colors, but I told myself I'd settle for a female and just use a silhouette scroll, since the character it's supposed to be is agender anyway. The range wasn't huge, but there was a decent margin of error. Both parents were guardians, so at least it wouldn't take long to do another nest.

First nest. Three eggs. I figured the odds weren't great.

I got the right colors, right gender, first try. Great success.

Then I got cocky, I guess.

I wanted two more fandragons from the same series. One was a very common color (triple obs) so I was just able to buy one and slap the right tert on. The other I thought would be similarly simple.

The goal:



Female Imp, moon/grey/white. Obviously I can't breedchange anybody into an Imp, so both parents would have to be Imps. I could buy the gem genes as a last resort, but I already had to shell out for crystal/facet once, and didn't super want to do it again if I could help it. But hey, crystal/facet is way more common for colors in the greyscale range, right? And those colors are popular, right? Right?

Alas, I was a fool.

Crystal/Facet Imps with those colors just... weren't there. There are a couple in active lairs on FR, but I don't ask to buy people's not for sale dragons unless they're obviously fodder. I used to get queries about a couple of my own dragons rather frequently, and it was annoying, so I don't do it. So okay then, time to hit the AH and look for close matches.

Those weren't a thing either. My quest to be cheap became difficult. I tried searching many, many combinations of colors that had a chance at giving me the right offspring. Nothing came up.

Luckily, the only thing a person can reliably know about dragons on FR is that there will always be triples. Ever since people successfully bred triple color dragons, there have been hundreds. Greyscale colors are especially popular, so they also tend to have a lot of triples. Or so I thought.

Turns out grey triples aren't popular. Especially for Imperials. Especially for crystal/facet. I could find plenty of white, and did end up grabbing one of those, but to keep the other colors I needed in range, the mate had to be at least grey. No dice. I moved out from grey, one color at a time, until I found something. Obsidian/Obsidian/Antique. Not ideal, not really that close to my goal, but... it's something.

I had the parents, they laid their first nest, three eggs. I was not hopeful.

When the nest hatched, there were two obvious duds. But the third... the colors looked correct??? It was male, but I could live with that, if only the colors were correct. Did I dare hope???

The baby was grey/moon/white. SO close. I honestly would have just kept him and used him, except the scry with those colors doesn't look quite right to my brain, and I thought I could do better. I thought I could get closer, or even the right thing. That was before I had to wait 30 days for cooldown.

Now we're still 5 days out, I am greatly regretting selling that grey/moon/white, and I scour the AH every day for a dragon that will suffice. I really must've used up all my good karma on that first project. Siiiiiiigggghhhh

Here's a tale of mission creep and one man's obsession with magenta soap. It started with Tessarin, an adult fodder I sniped for 5g. Nice snipe, me! Except she was too cool to fodder. She quickly became a perma. I decided she needed a mate with magenta soap. But not just any dragon off the AH. I wanted her to have a mate that was descended from my progens so she could be part of the clan family tree. Magenta soap basically looks good on everything, so I wasn't fussed about the primary and secondary, just the tert. Easy, right? [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/93185791][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/931858/93185791_350.png[/img][/url] ----- [b]Project 1: Magenta Soap[/b] Obviously, I didn't want to buy soap. So I started with my only progen descendant with a gem tert: Xirina, who has flaxen koi. It was a trip! Here are the project records. It's pretty fun, you can see them becoming progressively more soapy and magenta-y as the generations go on. (starting with "generation 3" because Xirina is a progen grandkid; lineage generation 3 = project generation 0) [b]Generation 3[/b] Xirina (flaxen) (range with Altioris: flaxen-ivory-buttercup) [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/87565866][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/875659/87565866.png[/img][/url] [b]Generation 4[/b] Waffle (flaxen), Dippin Dots (ivory) [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95640450][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/956405/95640450.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95640452][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/956405/95640452.png[/img][/url] [b]Generation 5[/b] Waffle's kids: cherry (-16), chocolate (-23), buttercup, buttercup [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96401507][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/964016/96401507.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96401506][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/964016/96401506.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96401504][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/964016/96401504.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96401505][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/964016/96401505.png[/img][/url] Dippin Dots' kids: sanguine (-13), tarnish (-26) [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96401531][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/964016/96401531.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96401530][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/964016/96401530.png[/img][/url] [b]Generation 6[/b] Waffle line: raspberry (+2), mauve (+4), brick (-5), red (-9), sanguine (-13) [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96929067][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/969291/96929067.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97036229][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/970363/97036229.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97036230][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/970363/97036230.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97036228][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/970363/97036228.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96929066][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/969291/96929066.png[/img][/url] Dippin Dots line: blush (-3), cerise (-7), strawberry (-8) [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97036233][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/970363/97036233.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97036235][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/970363/97036235.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97036234][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/970363/97036234.png[/img][/url] [b]Generation 7[/b] Waffle line: [b]magenta (0)[/b], fuchsia (+1), raspberry (+2), raspberry (+2), mauve (+4) [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97453603][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/974537/97453603.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97546851][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/975469/97546851.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97453602][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/974537/97453602.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97453604][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/974537/97453604.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97546852][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/975469/97546852.png[/img][/url] Dippin Dots line: watermelon (-1), cottoncandy (-2), blush (-3) [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97654944][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/976550/97654944.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97654943][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/976550/97654943.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97654942][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/976550/97654942.png[/img][/url] ----- [b]Interlude: Why I Should Be Banned From the Scryshop[/b] So, I got my project success: Myrddin, a very handsome boy with magenta soap! In another world, he becomes Tessarin's mate and the project ends. This isn't that world. Instead, I got some exciting ideas: (1) What if.........imperials? (2) What if they came in very specific colors? [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97453603][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/974537/97453603_350.png[/img][/url] ----- [b]Project 2a[/b] (Maboroshi Project): male imperial (she/her), ultramarine/cobalt/magenta OR cobalt/cobalt/magenta * must be male because she'll be Tessarin's mate, but she will be scrolled to f-pose [b]Project 2b[/b] (Hyzenthlay Project): imperial, sky/lapis/magenta I decided I needed [i]two[/i] imperials with specific colors, one of whom also had to be a specific gender. And they'll both be g9 descendants from my progens for family tree symmetry! Isn't that cool? Hyzenthlay actually popped off. I had a 1/16 couple and they produced her literally on the first egg. I was floored. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/99123853][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/991239/99123853_350.png[/img][/url] Maboroshi is still in the works. I started with a 1/12 couple (Iscariot x Zenaida, who is Myrddin's kid). FIVE MONTHS and no luck. Then Myrddin had another kid, Cosmog, who is actually the target colors (but female) and makes a 1/4 pair with Iscariot. They've nested once and ALSO DID NOT DO THE THING so here we are, making excessively long forum posts while waiting for imperial breeding cooldown. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97955921][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/979560/97955921.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97955695][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/979557/97955695.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/101252561][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/1012526/101252561.png[/img][/url] ----- [b]My Lair Space Tho?[/b] Also, I keep keeping project fails. Dippin' Dots, Mirzzen, and Arcadion are all from the pre-magenta-soap stage. The aether is from the latest Iscariot x Cosmog litter, because they decided NOT to give me a 1/4 chance but instead gave me a spite primal. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95640452][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/956405/95640452.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/96401507][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/964016/96401507.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/97036229][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/970363/97036229.png[/img][/url][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/101952392][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/1019524/101952392.png[/img][/url] Myrddin and his mate Adagio wound up being keepers as well. When this is all done we'll have five magenta soap permas, plus any Tessarin x Maboroshi kids we end up keeping, plus a random magenta whiskers aether. Basically, sniping fodder is dangerous because it could be really cute and then all kinds of things can happen.

Breeding cooldowns are so painfully long. I feel you on wanting to make a vent thread for it, because even with your color range so narrowed down RNG has to be unfair about it.

I am on a quest for a specific fandragon - a skydancer that's ideally turquoise/amethyst/stonewash gembond, with a combination of crystal, facet, metallic, or alloy. I started this quest years ago, quit the site for a few years, and have been back on the grind for several months now. I've narrowed the range down and have seen a few close hatchlings in terms of color, but now it's a matter of weeding out the gem genes I don't want while still managing to have pairs that aren't related. Assay Bloodlines is a must with almost every nest. To make matters worse, I've been wegged three times in the past few weeks. Please make it stop!

I've thought about making a thread in the Quests/Challenges forum to showcase the failures (and maybe give them a chance for a new home). More than 100 dragons have come out of this and the Tidelord could have a squadron made entirely of failed attemps that I've sent his way. There are even a few G1s that turn up in my saved AH search for potential candidates that I've thought about nabbing just to take the easy way out, so maybe having a better way to keep track of the failures might steer me towards spending all those gems instead.

It's nice to see a breeding project vent thread because I can't be the only one in this struggle, lol.

@leucrotta ooooof, an Imp project - I feel your pain :(((( I tried an Imp project once and "failed" - it was a color combo that did exist and was being bred, but very sparsely by very few people. I tried to join the group and couldn't produce my own at the time, but I ended up buying one. So it turned out [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/95827633]okay[/url], but I've never fully recovered lol - I have a page in my hibden where I hoard Imps (and other dragons) with colors that MIGHT be useful later XD I also breed a lot of Imps for fodder for a similar reason - [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/92977806]Luzio[/url] and [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/91878834]Uzuni[/url] aren't Crystal/Facet and they have a pretty wide range, but if I remember the FR color wheel right, they technically capture your target within their ranges. So maybe I can produce something halfway useful for you someday...ah yes, they have a 0.0014% chance of producing moon/grey/white. what great odds! :( (edit: whoops fixed odds calc, slightly better now) I see you've been on FR much longer than me, but my humble advice with Imp projects if you'll have it - multiple pairs going at once, keep near-misses to use as breeders, and don't worry about how expensive the gem genes are, because the project will likely take so long that you'll have earned the money by then anyway [emoji=skull size=1] BEST OF LUCK!