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[quote name="@VivaFariy" date="2024-12-17 21:00:26" ] [quote name="Leremis" date="2024-12-17 18:45:01" ] @/chaoticpotato - pinging you because you're my strongest maflean at this time - i don't like how quickly they jumped on my vote switch. i get, only i know it's memey, but it was done within two hours of day start with a memey reason. i feel like this was kinda needlessly nitpicky, but this is also the sort of attention i look for. so. and i dislike the main reason for voting hope as their posts being 'crunchy'. claims to have dropped the sus on me for the vote but refers to it as an option for voting me. willing to vote for me because i voted for them early on and i must wonder at whether this is omgus or if it would be similar if it had been for literally anyone else. i notably didn't get flack for the hope vote, but got it again when i switched my vote back to potato. potato defensive about being in the hotseat over a miselim the next day i might be tunnelling on this but for the sake of thoroughly explaining myself and scum hunting, these are my thoughts at this time raccoonusdoodus - vaguely decent town lean [/quote] This reasoning against Potato actually makes sense to me... It's definitely stuff that could easily be town, misunderstandings, player style... there's nothing inherently wrong with vibe based (crunchy) voting at the beginning. But it is interesting to note that Potato essentially started the Hope focus with the crunchy comment. Is it possible that Potato was starting to shift attention towards Leremis, saw it wasn't working, and shifted to Hope? But also I feel like Potato is a more experienced player and would be a smoother mafia than that? But I can't actually recall specific maf vs town playstyle so idk. It's worth considering. I wouldn't say I find Potato scummy rn, but definitely keeping an eye there. @/Leremis why do you have Raccoon as a town lean? Is there reasoning there? Is it just a difference check? [/quote] it was mainly a gut feeling, but i liked the way that they immediately jumped in on the results of that hope wagon. their posts have felt towny to me, and it makes sense now seeing the lightning flip

[quote name="ChaoticPotato" date="2024-12-18 09:12:23" ] [quote name="devilstarot" date="2024-12-18 09:02:21" ] [quote name="autumnseas" date="2024-12-18 08:50:23" ] (mech interference also possible here but i think a rb is unlikely if you know i visited you but decided to publicly me why + given that this is a ******* game i am wary of hidden mechanics and there are a few things about how my rolecard is constructed that make me particularly concerned that they may be at play w me which is why i worded that the way i did, fwiw. don't want to further claim but) [/quote] Multiple things DID happen in my little area last night, but with your wording I'm certain I know which is you. You're all good. [/quote] Oh, that's interesting. Is there any other information you feel you can safely share? And would you say that whatever Autumn did to you (don't say what if you can help it) was clearing? [/quote] I'd prefer not to comment in order to benefit town!!! Not a jab at you/mafreading you, but mafia can see this just as we can and I don't want to benefit them/screw us.

[quote name="ChaoticPotato" date="2024-12-18 09:13:15" ] @/devilstarot my name is ChaoticPotato, not ChaosPotato. It doesn't look like there's any user by the name of ChaosPotato, so no worries there, but I am not getting your pings [/quote] OH thank you! Apologies for the mistake lmao

[quote name="devilstarot" date="2024-12-18 13:10:12" ] [quote name="ChaoticPotato" date="2024-12-18 09:12:23" ] [quote name="devilstarot" date="2024-12-18 09:02:21" ] [quote name="autumnseas" date="2024-12-18 08:50:23" ] (mech interference also possible here but i think a rb is unlikely if you know i visited you but decided to publicly me why + given that this is a ******* game i am wary of hidden mechanics and there are a few things about how my rolecard is constructed that make me particularly concerned that they may be at play w me which is why i worded that the way i did, fwiw. don't want to further claim but) [/quote] Multiple things DID happen in my little area last night, but with your wording I'm certain I know which is you. You're all good. [/quote] Oh, that's interesting. Is there any other information you feel you can safely share? And would you say that whatever Autumn did to you (don't say what if you can help it) was clearing? [/quote] I'd prefer not to comment in order to benefit town!!! Not a jab at you/mafreading you, but mafia can see this just as we can and I don't want to benefit them/screw us. [/quote] That is fair - I wouldn't want you to reveal something that you feel is a detriment to town. I'll be leaving Autumn as a neutral for now until more evidence shows up, though (although if she keeps up how she entered the thread I could easily move her up my trs)

[quote name="RaccoonusDoodus" date="2024-12-18 10:07:49" ] [quote name="ChaoticPotato" date="2024-12-18 10:06:19" ] WELL [/quote] Like I said. I don't wanna waste a day phase. I let you and Kat say your pieces and now I'd love to find scum lmao [/quote] This is intriguing. It could be a 3p/mafia flips green situation, but I'll believe it for now. We should stop scumming each other then and try to grab a wolf (that flips wolf) today. @raccoonusdoodus

I'm alive! I promised I'd be back with more content so... here. Sorry that my reads are mostly town, I do tend to townlean with my vibes.

TOWN:
Stargate18 - Locktown, obviously.
RaccoonusDoodus - locktown based on ability
ChaoticPotato - lots of posting, good responses to questions, etc, and had a realistic reaction to the Innocent Child activation.
Leremis - Good analysis, multiple ISOs done, appears to be actively solving.
devilstarot - Actively posting a lot, gives lots of content without TMI vibes at a pace I feel would be unsustainable for mafia

TOWNLEAN:
snippity - not a huge amount of content, but has provided reads and opinions on several posts.
StormDreamer - has given honest-sounding reasons for not providing many reads, and those that do seem very well thought out.
Viskara - has given vibes and has responded generally towny.
Allowyn - was against Hope train and has given reads.

NEUTRAL:
VivaFariy - While openly appearing towny - asking many questions, etc. - she made multiple posts pushing hopechr for more information, then after the flip immediately started putting pressure on ChaoticPotato and the others who voted for hopechr. From a scum!VivaFariy, this is the perfect move - in one fell swoop, town is eliminated and the townies who voted for hope look significantly more suspicious, especially after she presses them.
natsinabucket - Messages feel towny, has attempted to solve despite low content. Did, however, vote for Hope with very little explanation.
parergong - Not enough stuff to really analyse yet.

SCUMLEAN:
autumnseas - Still think heavily TRing me is a bad move generally, doesn't really make sense for town.

HELLO FRIENDS thank you all for the well wishes and being understanding about why I couldn't vote (I'm still very salty about my deadzone), Husband will be a-okay and now he's in prime position for me to spend the next week convincing him to play mafia with us in the future and that reason alone is why I shouldn't be targeted in a game muahahahahaha (/jokes)

But I've now got a great arvo to sneak through all your posts and do a more solid D2 ISO instead of just giving off me "damnit everyone seems to be neutral who do I vote for?!" reads and more than a "Do not like this voting train." Hope, bby, we shall avenge ye I swear. <3

Raccoonus is not going to be ISO'd because even though it's a bstard game I'm going to trust my gut in trusting the mod reveal of them indeed being just a sweet innocent cinnamon roll. (Though, @RaccoonusDoodus (your name is so fun to say) if you want to be ISO'd anyway for ***** and gigs lemme know.)

So hopefully even with a fairly quiet start of D2 I can make it not so quiet. /affectionate

@Stargate18 I have some thoughts about your reads list. Like mainly not really sure why some ppl you have very little info on -- Allowyn, snippity -- are townleans. But then Nat and Parergong are neutral. that confuses me

but I'm gonna respond to what you said about me. As you said, I was pushing Hope for more info. I wasn't insisting Hope we maf or even really scumreading them, I was asking for info. which is what we're supposed to be doing.

As for after, I didn't really push Potato? Not sure where you got that? I put Potato in neutral on my readslist, with the comments about them being fairly positive. So where did you get that I was putting pressure on Potato and others who voted Hope? I don't think I did that at all really

[quote name="VivaFariy" date="2024-12-18 15:52:17" ] @Stargate18 I have some thoughts about your reads list. Like mainly not really sure why some ppl you have very little info on -- Allowyn, snippity -- are townleans. But then Nat and Parergong are neutral. that confuses me but I'm gonna respond to what you said about me. As you said, I was pushing Hope for more info. I wasn't insisting Hope we maf or even really scumreading them, I was asking for info. which is what we're supposed to be doing. As for after, I didn't really push Potato? Not sure where you got that? I put Potato in neutral on my readslist, with the comments about them being fairly positive. So where did you get that I was putting pressure on Potato and others who voted Hope? I don't think I did that at all really [/quote] Firstly, my apologies, I may have mistaken one of your posts for pushing Potato. As for the pushing Hope - while each question is innocent, you literally posted large amounts of thoughts/questions at them over the course of an hour. I might be reading too into it, but it feels like a tactic scum could use - Allowyn and Snippy are mainly rated high because I felt that, if they continue to post in the same way, they'll be contributing highly to town. Basically just being optimistic. Meanwhile, Parergong hasn't really given anything to go off yet, and nat is both lurking and voted for town, which made me lean more neutral on them. (Also, I forgot to put this in, but nat was second after me in Caspurr's tier list, which may suggest S/S? Have the first townread slot be town, so after I flip nat gets some towncred too.)

i do not like how quiet thread is today