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TOPIC | PSA: Auraboa Breakup is safe again lol
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Final edit: Very happy to see staff will be reversing the paisley change and that the [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/3317010#post_3317010]snurge blend change was a mistake and will also be reversed [/url] [emoji=firework size=1] Also new guidelines about stylistic choice vs actual bugs, time limits on stylistic changes, and plans for better clarity on future issues like this~ very helpful stuff ----- Edit: [quote name="kallimabutterfly" date="2024-02-21 02:18:53" ] [quote = Undel]Secondary: Breakup on Auraboa having lines in the upper portion of the wings was reported as an error and was briefly listed as one. However, upon further review we found that it remains consistent with the Skydancer treatment of the wings and we will not be making changes to these stripes (barring technical errors.)[/quote] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/bug/3289327/1#post_3289327]They've gone back on the breakup thing, at least.[/url] [/quote] [quote name="nebulatum" date="2024-02-21 02:40:31" ] [quote=Undel on the Auraboa Gene Error Thread][LIST] [*]Secondary: Hypnotic on Auraboa F & H are missing some of the spots on the wing-hands. [/LIST][/quote] seems they took back hypnotic, too. [/quote] Ok the breakup and hypnotic changes were walked back within a few hours, so that's something at least! But still no direct answers about boa paisley, sandsurge blend, or the general "stylistic changes for consistency" stuff that's been going around which is still aggravating... ------------- Original post: [quote name="Undel on the Gene Error thread"] [LIST] [*]Secondary: Breakup on Auraboa should [b]only have the stripes applied to the crest and is missing patterning in the upper wings.[/b] [*]Secondary: Hypnotic on Auraboa F & H are missing some of the spots on the wing-hands. [b]The upper wings on all should have the hypnotic pattern applied to them.[/b] [/LIST][/quote] These updates were just added to the 'to be fixed' list a little while ago in the boa gene bug thread, so the change hasn't happened as of this post but it is on the horizon. I do wonder if staff has actually seen the suggestions thread about paisley's change and that's where they're suddenly noticing this newest round of "bugs" or if they're somehow oblivious to it all. The silence is aggravating. Either way I'm not looking forward to breakup lines being removed from the upper portion of their wings, it's a nice touch and consistent with SD wings having stripes on the feathers. ------------ You know, this just shows that the bug notes don't even prepare the userbase for the changes. I'm pretty sure you could read the note as either meaning there should only be stripes in the crest aka no breakup pattern on the crest, and that a little bit of breakup will be applied to the very top of the wing and keep the stripes (like the SD version) or that there should only be stripes in the crest aka the stripes in the wings will be removed and the breakup pattern added to the upper wings (like the paisley change). Confusing. I'm saving scry's to my computer for comparison now either way lol. [center][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=24&element=9&eyetype=11&gender=0&tert=73&tertgene=0&winggene=252&wings=2&auth=9415867bbad02b292a50e4f49b61ef69419bafc5&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=13&element=9&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=104&tertgene=0&winggene=58&wings=2&auth=145f2ff4706fb93187863e6fcb8d65437c641250&dummyext=prev.png[/img][/center]
Final edit:

Very happy to see staff will be reversing the paisley change and that the snurge blend change was a mistake and will also be reversed

Also new guidelines about stylistic choice vs actual bugs, time limits on stylistic changes, and plans for better clarity on future issues like this~ very helpful stuff


Edit:
kallimabutterfly wrote on 2024-02-21 02:18:53:
Undel wrote:
Secondary: Breakup on Auraboa having lines in the upper portion of the wings was reported as an error and was briefly listed as one. However, upon further review we found that it remains consistent with the Skydancer treatment of the wings and we will not be making changes to these stripes (barring technical errors.)
They've gone back on the breakup thing, at least.
nebulatum wrote on 2024-02-21 02:40:31:
Undel on the Auraboa Gene Error Thread wrote:
  • Secondary: Hypnotic on Auraboa F & H are missing some of the spots on the wing-hands.

seems they took back hypnotic, too.


Ok the breakup and hypnotic changes were walked back within a few hours, so that's something at least! But still no direct answers about boa paisley, sandsurge blend, or the general "stylistic changes for consistency" stuff that's been going around which is still aggravating...


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Undel on the Gene Error thread wrote:
  • Secondary: Breakup on Auraboa should only have the stripes applied to the crest and is missing patterning in the upper wings.
  • Secondary: Hypnotic on Auraboa F & H are missing some of the spots on the wing-hands. The upper wings on all should have the hypnotic pattern applied to them.

These updates were just added to the 'to be fixed' list a little while ago in the boa gene bug thread, so the change hasn't happened as of this post but it is on the horizon.

I do wonder if staff has actually seen the suggestions thread about paisley's change and that's where they're suddenly noticing this newest round of "bugs" or if they're somehow oblivious to it all. The silence is aggravating.

Either way I'm not looking forward to breakup lines being removed from the upper portion of their wings, it's a nice touch and consistent with SD wings having stripes on the feathers.

You know, this just shows that the bug notes don't even prepare the userbase for the changes.

I'm pretty sure you could read the note as either meaning there should only be stripes in the crest aka no breakup pattern on the crest, and that a little bit of breakup will be applied to the very top of the wing and keep the stripes (like the SD version) or that there should only be stripes in the crest aka the stripes in the wings will be removed and the breakup pattern added to the upper wings (like the paisley change).
Confusing. I'm saving scry's to my computer for comparison now either way lol.
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Auroboa wing definition is is already wack with the front wings not counting as secondary, I, however, will always welcome updates to genes to make the. More consistent.

Honestly if this was a trolly lead-up to gene variations that would be very funny.
Auroboa wing definition is is already wack with the front wings not counting as secondary, I, however, will always welcome updates to genes to make the. More consistent.

Honestly if this was a trolly lead-up to gene variations that would be very funny.
I used to display all my meme numbers here, but honestly im tired off that
i will still say that i own the #420 saved scry
[quote name="Gemmi" date="2024-02-21 00:51:15" ] Auroboa wing definition is is already wack with the front wings not counting as secondary, I, however, will always welcome updates to genes to make the. More consistent. Honestly if this was a trolly lead-up to gene variations that would be very funny. [/quote] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=5&bodygene=1&breed=13&element=7&eyetype=13&gender=1&tert=104&tertgene=0&winggene=58&wings=153&auth=ffcc6d9728c6c9f97afc64d626df6815eb08fae6&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Yes, the consistency where breakup only has stripes in the crest, that consistency (to be fair though, I can't say much about hypnotic)
Gemmi wrote on 2024-02-21 00:51:15:
Auroboa wing definition is is already wack with the front wings not counting as secondary, I, however, will always welcome updates to genes to make the. More consistent.

Honestly if this was a trolly lead-up to gene variations that would be very funny.
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Yes, the consistency where breakup only has stripes in the crest, that consistency
(to be fair though, I can't say much about hypnotic)
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There are a ton of secondaries on Auraboas that treat the top part of the wing as "mane" or at least visually different from the lower one. Including Affection, which released last week. Getting popcorn ready to see if they want to change all of those, as well.

Looks like I'll have to scry my Auras as different breeds now, as there is no way to tell what they might look like in a few weeks.
There are a ton of secondaries on Auraboas that treat the top part of the wing as "mane" or at least visually different from the lower one. Including Affection, which released last week. Getting popcorn ready to see if they want to change all of those, as well.

Looks like I'll have to scry my Auras as different breeds now, as there is no way to tell what they might look like in a few weeks.
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what did it look like before?
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[quote name="Aurax" date="2024-02-21 01:03:51" ] There are a ton of secondaries on Auraboas that treat the top part of the wing as "mane" or at least visually different from the lower one. Including Affection, which released last week. Getting popcorn ready to see if they want to change all of those, as well. Looks like I'll have to scry my Auras as different breeds now, as there is no way to tell what they might look like in a few weeks. [/quote] This includes basic which kind of confuses me. [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=152&bodygene=0&breed=8&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=91&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=131&auth=4680055bfcd7d77c276a83dc90c7f75de0d2861a&dummyext=prev.png[/img][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=152&bodygene=0&breed=24&element=4&eyetype=0&gender=1&tert=91&tertgene=0&winggene=0&wings=131&auth=e1c63d25bf5964eab924b1935a01429d65aec4f5&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Aurax wrote on 2024-02-21 01:03:51:
There are a ton of secondaries on Auraboas that treat the top part of the wing as "mane" or at least visually different from the lower one. Including Affection, which released last week. Getting popcorn ready to see if they want to change all of those, as well.

Looks like I'll have to scry my Auras as different breeds now, as there is no way to tell what they might look like in a few weeks.


This includes basic which kind of confuses me.
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I will put something here eventually.
@astrojelly The change hasn't gone in yet, it just got put on the 'to do list' for the error thread, but it sounds like they're going to be taking the stripes in the wing and replacing it with the geometric pattern so that only the crest has stripes Edit: You know, this just shows that the bug reports don't even prepare the userbase for the changes because I think you could also read the note as meaning the breakup pattern will be removed from the upper crest and replaced with stripes and then maybe the stripes stay on the upper portion and a little of the breakup pattern is put on the very top of the wing like the SD version? [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=24&element=9&eyetype=11&gender=0&tert=73&tertgene=0&winggene=252&wings=2&auth=9415867bbad02b292a50e4f49b61ef69419bafc5&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
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The change hasn't gone in yet, it just got put on the 'to do list' for the error thread, but it sounds like they're going to be taking the stripes in the wing and replacing it with the geometric pattern so that only the crest has stripes

Edit: You know, this just shows that the bug reports don't even prepare the userbase for the changes because I think you could also read the note as meaning the breakup pattern will be removed from the upper crest and replaced with stripes and then maybe the stripes stay on the upper portion and a little of the breakup pattern is put on the very top of the wing like the SD version?

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God, I know this isn't at all the intent, but it feels like users are just actively being messed with at this point. How have they not seen all the uproar the Paisley change caused?

It also sucks because Auras are SUCH a lovely breed, but they straight up cannot be used at all anymore if you're worried about things being changed. :( As others have pointed out, loads of other genes already treat the upper wings like the mane area on other breeds! Will those be changed too, or not?
God, I know this isn't at all the intent, but it feels like users are just actively being messed with at this point. How have they not seen all the uproar the Paisley change caused?

It also sucks because Auras are SUCH a lovely breed, but they straight up cannot be used at all anymore if you're worried about things being changed. :( As others have pointed out, loads of other genes already treat the upper wings like the mane area on other breeds! Will those be changed too, or not?
[quote name="Dreamweave" date="2024-02-21 01:11:58" ] @/astrojelly The change hasn't gone in yet, it just got put on the 'to do list' for the error thread, but it sounds like they're going to be taking the stripes in the wing and replacing it with the geometric pattern [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=2&bodygene=0&breed=24&element=9&eyetype=11&gender=0&tert=73&tertgene=0&winggene=252&wings=2&auth=9415867bbad02b292a50e4f49b61ef69419bafc5&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [/quote] ahh i see. it is kinda weird how a lot of auraboa bugs are about the upper part of the wings being like. separate but tbh i prefer it that way, breaks things up a little an it's a little sad they keep changing it. oh well
Dreamweave wrote on 2024-02-21 01:11:58:
@/astrojelly

The change hasn't gone in yet, it just got put on the 'to do list' for the error thread, but it sounds like they're going to be taking the stripes in the wing and replacing it with the geometric pattern

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ahh i see. it is kinda weird how a lot of auraboa bugs are about the upper part of the wings being like. separate but tbh i prefer it that way, breaks things up a little an it's a little sad they keep changing it. oh well
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I don't get why these genes have been/are being changed tbh? They were pretty consistent with each other ("mane" patterning on the top/secondary feathers & part of the crest), plus Auraboa Diamondback which is apparently not an error so...? Like ymmv on whether the changes are good/bad, but if this is a consistency thing it honestly doesn't add up since Diamondback won't feel consistent with Paisley/Breakup/Hypnotic [i]on the same breed[/i]. [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=88&bodygene=0&breed=24&element=6&eyetype=11&gender=0&tert=151&tertgene=0&winggene=256&wings=140&auth=d0d8f2a4071b22644c4f17beb1602f841489a7dc&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Auraboa Diamondback for reference. Note the lack of patterning on the secondary feathers & the minimal patterning on the top of the crest. [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=88&bodygene=0&breed=24&element=6&eyetype=11&gender=0&tert=151&tertgene=0&winggene=239&wings=140&auth=c16950a0dc800619187c737171b6aa9bef444493&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=88&bodygene=0&breed=17&element=6&eyetype=11&gender=0&tert=151&tertgene=0&winggene=171&wings=140&auth=8cb46913827e6b19997285338adf4bef5ff4eafe&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Auraboa Saddle also uses "mane" patterning on the secondary feathers & part of the crest, so... is this wrong too? :V
I don't get why these genes have been/are being changed tbh? They were pretty consistent with each other ("mane" patterning on the top/secondary feathers & part of the crest), plus Auraboa Diamondback which is apparently not an error so...? Like ymmv on whether the changes are good/bad, but if this is a consistency thing it honestly doesn't add up since Diamondback won't feel consistent with Paisley/Breakup/Hypnotic on the same breed.

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Auraboa Diamondback for reference. Note the lack of patterning on the secondary feathers & the minimal patterning on the top of the crest.

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Auraboa Saddle also uses "mane" patterning on the secondary feathers & part of the crest, so... is this wrong too? :V
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