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TOPIC | Why hate sonic but not detective pikachu
I hate both lol
Pikachu's design looks... okay, but hyper-realistic textures blindly slapped onto a cartoon animal hits uncanny valley fast unless you hit that perfect mark between realistic and cartoony (which, yes, is very difficult to do but that's not the point). The main issue I'm seeing is that all of the Pokemon retain their shapes to a point where most look strange or out of place because they're completely unaltered otherwise, but this is slightly more forgivable because they're still recognizable.
Sonic, on the other hand, suffers from both issues: he's so far removed from his original design that he not only looks fake but also unfamiliar. He's more like a weird Sonic/human lovechild due to his humanized proportions, furry and jointed limbs, lack of gloves, eyes, teeth, and lips.
Pikachu's design looks... okay, but hyper-realistic textures blindly slapped onto a cartoon animal hits uncanny valley fast unless you hit that perfect mark between realistic and cartoony (which, yes, is very difficult to do but that's not the point). The main issue I'm seeing is that all of the Pokemon retain their shapes to a point where most look strange or out of place because they're completely unaltered otherwise, but this is slightly more forgivable because they're still recognizable.
Sonic, on the other hand, suffers from both issues: he's so far removed from his original design that he not only looks fake but also unfamiliar. He's more like a weird Sonic/human lovechild due to his humanized proportions, furry and jointed limbs, lack of gloves, eyes, teeth, and lips.
I hate both lol
Pikachu's design looks... okay, but hyper-realistic textures blindly slapped onto a cartoon animal hits uncanny valley fast unless you hit that perfect mark between realistic and cartoony (which, yes, is very difficult to do but that's not the point). The main issue I'm seeing is that all of the Pokemon retain their shapes to a point where most look strange or out of place because they're completely unaltered otherwise, but this is slightly more forgivable because they're still recognizable.
Sonic, on the other hand, suffers from both issues: he's so far removed from his original design that he not only looks fake but also unfamiliar. He's more like a weird Sonic/human lovechild due to his humanized proportions, furry and jointed limbs, lack of gloves, eyes, teeth, and lips.
Pikachu's design looks... okay, but hyper-realistic textures blindly slapped onto a cartoon animal hits uncanny valley fast unless you hit that perfect mark between realistic and cartoony (which, yes, is very difficult to do but that's not the point). The main issue I'm seeing is that all of the Pokemon retain their shapes to a point where most look strange or out of place because they're completely unaltered otherwise, but this is slightly more forgivable because they're still recognizable.
Sonic, on the other hand, suffers from both issues: he's so far removed from his original design that he not only looks fake but also unfamiliar. He's more like a weird Sonic/human lovechild due to his humanized proportions, furry and jointed limbs, lack of gloves, eyes, teeth, and lips.
@RotRat already did an excellent job of explaining why one character design works for most people and the other falls so flat. In addition to that though, Detective Pikachu as a whole just seems to have been made with a lot more love and integrity given to the source material and it shows.
Detective Pikachu is full of designs that are still recognizable and iconic, even covered in realistic fur/skin/scale textures. The proportions of the Pokemon are kept close to the originals and don't have many of the traits that condemn live action adaptations of fictional creatures to being in the eerie uncanny valley. They don't feel like puppets nor are they people/animals dressed in Pokemon suits. The team behind the movie consulted a longtime well-known Pokemon fan artist, who has made dozens of realistic Pokemon designs over the years, to give creative input on the movie. The city the movie takes place in feels genuinely alive and involved, from the way people interact with their Pokemon as pets and companions to the Poke-pop culture references in the in-universe advertisements and neon signs. The presence of Pokemon from all generations shows that this whole movie isn't just an advertising move to pander to G1 nostalgia or sell the newest gen, but shows an environment where all Pokemon can thrive, even the more obscure middle-gen fan favorites. The humor feels geared towards a wide age range to where young and adult fans can both find something to smile about. The Mr. Mime scene shown in the trailers especially nails every single one of these traits so well, making the Pokemon feel alive and like it belongs in that universe and using clever jokes to show the audience what that creature is all about. This scene alone sold me on the movie because it shows the directors truly care about bringing the source material of a beloved 20+ year old franchise to life on the big screen instead of changing random things and making it up as they go along (as tends to happen to many film adaptations of existing franchises for some reason).
The Sonic movie just doesn't have that same love and respect given to the source material, and it's for more reasons than the actual Sonic design (though that in itself is off-putting enough for many fans). The plot is a generic "save the world"/deal-with-military-forces plot without anything special or unique seemingly added in. Eggman is just Jim Carrey playing a Jim Carrey villain and relying on the actor's established quirkiness to sell it, rather than using character traits we already associate with the Eggman we know from most other existing Sonic media. We don't really see anything about the world in the movie that we associate with places we've seen in the Sonic games (maybe City Escape but that feels like a huge stretch). Most of the same jokes and references shown in the trailer could be made with other characters/franchises and aren't unique at all to Sonic. You could take the scene where Sonic is hiding in a bag and replace him with Alvin and the Chipmunks and it would probably still "work," and that series has not aged well at all. I think the thing that irks me the most though personally is that one of the movie's supposedly biggest selling points is that it was made by the same director as The Fast and the Furious. It's almost like they focused too hard on getting that specific tagline to make a pun out of (when imo, the Fast and Furious movies aren't even all that great) and forgot to look for someone who actually knows and loves the series to direct it. The timing also feels like they were trying to capitalize on Detective Pikachu's hype and create the next big video gaming movie without understanding the reasons why people are so excited for Detective Pikachu.
Detective Pikachu is full of designs that are still recognizable and iconic, even covered in realistic fur/skin/scale textures. The proportions of the Pokemon are kept close to the originals and don't have many of the traits that condemn live action adaptations of fictional creatures to being in the eerie uncanny valley. They don't feel like puppets nor are they people/animals dressed in Pokemon suits. The team behind the movie consulted a longtime well-known Pokemon fan artist, who has made dozens of realistic Pokemon designs over the years, to give creative input on the movie. The city the movie takes place in feels genuinely alive and involved, from the way people interact with their Pokemon as pets and companions to the Poke-pop culture references in the in-universe advertisements and neon signs. The presence of Pokemon from all generations shows that this whole movie isn't just an advertising move to pander to G1 nostalgia or sell the newest gen, but shows an environment where all Pokemon can thrive, even the more obscure middle-gen fan favorites. The humor feels geared towards a wide age range to where young and adult fans can both find something to smile about. The Mr. Mime scene shown in the trailers especially nails every single one of these traits so well, making the Pokemon feel alive and like it belongs in that universe and using clever jokes to show the audience what that creature is all about. This scene alone sold me on the movie because it shows the directors truly care about bringing the source material of a beloved 20+ year old franchise to life on the big screen instead of changing random things and making it up as they go along (as tends to happen to many film adaptations of existing franchises for some reason).
The Sonic movie just doesn't have that same love and respect given to the source material, and it's for more reasons than the actual Sonic design (though that in itself is off-putting enough for many fans). The plot is a generic "save the world"/deal-with-military-forces plot without anything special or unique seemingly added in. Eggman is just Jim Carrey playing a Jim Carrey villain and relying on the actor's established quirkiness to sell it, rather than using character traits we already associate with the Eggman we know from most other existing Sonic media. We don't really see anything about the world in the movie that we associate with places we've seen in the Sonic games (maybe City Escape but that feels like a huge stretch). Most of the same jokes and references shown in the trailer could be made with other characters/franchises and aren't unique at all to Sonic. You could take the scene where Sonic is hiding in a bag and replace him with Alvin and the Chipmunks and it would probably still "work," and that series has not aged well at all. I think the thing that irks me the most though personally is that one of the movie's supposedly biggest selling points is that it was made by the same director as The Fast and the Furious. It's almost like they focused too hard on getting that specific tagline to make a pun out of (when imo, the Fast and Furious movies aren't even all that great) and forgot to look for someone who actually knows and loves the series to direct it. The timing also feels like they were trying to capitalize on Detective Pikachu's hype and create the next big video gaming movie without understanding the reasons why people are so excited for Detective Pikachu.
@RotRat already did an excellent job of explaining why one character design works for most people and the other falls so flat. In addition to that though, Detective Pikachu as a whole just seems to have been made with a lot more love and integrity given to the source material and it shows.
Detective Pikachu is full of designs that are still recognizable and iconic, even covered in realistic fur/skin/scale textures. The proportions of the Pokemon are kept close to the originals and don't have many of the traits that condemn live action adaptations of fictional creatures to being in the eerie uncanny valley. They don't feel like puppets nor are they people/animals dressed in Pokemon suits. The team behind the movie consulted a longtime well-known Pokemon fan artist, who has made dozens of realistic Pokemon designs over the years, to give creative input on the movie. The city the movie takes place in feels genuinely alive and involved, from the way people interact with their Pokemon as pets and companions to the Poke-pop culture references in the in-universe advertisements and neon signs. The presence of Pokemon from all generations shows that this whole movie isn't just an advertising move to pander to G1 nostalgia or sell the newest gen, but shows an environment where all Pokemon can thrive, even the more obscure middle-gen fan favorites. The humor feels geared towards a wide age range to where young and adult fans can both find something to smile about. The Mr. Mime scene shown in the trailers especially nails every single one of these traits so well, making the Pokemon feel alive and like it belongs in that universe and using clever jokes to show the audience what that creature is all about. This scene alone sold me on the movie because it shows the directors truly care about bringing the source material of a beloved 20+ year old franchise to life on the big screen instead of changing random things and making it up as they go along (as tends to happen to many film adaptations of existing franchises for some reason).
The Sonic movie just doesn't have that same love and respect given to the source material, and it's for more reasons than the actual Sonic design (though that in itself is off-putting enough for many fans). The plot is a generic "save the world"/deal-with-military-forces plot without anything special or unique seemingly added in. Eggman is just Jim Carrey playing a Jim Carrey villain and relying on the actor's established quirkiness to sell it, rather than using character traits we already associate with the Eggman we know from most other existing Sonic media. We don't really see anything about the world in the movie that we associate with places we've seen in the Sonic games (maybe City Escape but that feels like a huge stretch). Most of the same jokes and references shown in the trailer could be made with other characters/franchises and aren't unique at all to Sonic. You could take the scene where Sonic is hiding in a bag and replace him with Alvin and the Chipmunks and it would probably still "work," and that series has not aged well at all. I think the thing that irks me the most though personally is that one of the movie's supposedly biggest selling points is that it was made by the same director as The Fast and the Furious. It's almost like they focused too hard on getting that specific tagline to make a pun out of (when imo, the Fast and Furious movies aren't even all that great) and forgot to look for someone who actually knows and loves the series to direct it. The timing also feels like they were trying to capitalize on Detective Pikachu's hype and create the next big video gaming movie without understanding the reasons why people are so excited for Detective Pikachu.
Detective Pikachu is full of designs that are still recognizable and iconic, even covered in realistic fur/skin/scale textures. The proportions of the Pokemon are kept close to the originals and don't have many of the traits that condemn live action adaptations of fictional creatures to being in the eerie uncanny valley. They don't feel like puppets nor are they people/animals dressed in Pokemon suits. The team behind the movie consulted a longtime well-known Pokemon fan artist, who has made dozens of realistic Pokemon designs over the years, to give creative input on the movie. The city the movie takes place in feels genuinely alive and involved, from the way people interact with their Pokemon as pets and companions to the Poke-pop culture references in the in-universe advertisements and neon signs. The presence of Pokemon from all generations shows that this whole movie isn't just an advertising move to pander to G1 nostalgia or sell the newest gen, but shows an environment where all Pokemon can thrive, even the more obscure middle-gen fan favorites. The humor feels geared towards a wide age range to where young and adult fans can both find something to smile about. The Mr. Mime scene shown in the trailers especially nails every single one of these traits so well, making the Pokemon feel alive and like it belongs in that universe and using clever jokes to show the audience what that creature is all about. This scene alone sold me on the movie because it shows the directors truly care about bringing the source material of a beloved 20+ year old franchise to life on the big screen instead of changing random things and making it up as they go along (as tends to happen to many film adaptations of existing franchises for some reason).
The Sonic movie just doesn't have that same love and respect given to the source material, and it's for more reasons than the actual Sonic design (though that in itself is off-putting enough for many fans). The plot is a generic "save the world"/deal-with-military-forces plot without anything special or unique seemingly added in. Eggman is just Jim Carrey playing a Jim Carrey villain and relying on the actor's established quirkiness to sell it, rather than using character traits we already associate with the Eggman we know from most other existing Sonic media. We don't really see anything about the world in the movie that we associate with places we've seen in the Sonic games (maybe City Escape but that feels like a huge stretch). Most of the same jokes and references shown in the trailer could be made with other characters/franchises and aren't unique at all to Sonic. You could take the scene where Sonic is hiding in a bag and replace him with Alvin and the Chipmunks and it would probably still "work," and that series has not aged well at all. I think the thing that irks me the most though personally is that one of the movie's supposedly biggest selling points is that it was made by the same director as The Fast and the Furious. It's almost like they focused too hard on getting that specific tagline to make a pun out of (when imo, the Fast and Furious movies aren't even all that great) and forgot to look for someone who actually knows and loves the series to direct it. The timing also feels like they were trying to capitalize on Detective Pikachu's hype and create the next big video gaming movie without understanding the reasons why people are so excited for Detective Pikachu.
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detective pikachu is cute and fluffy and actually looks like a pikachu. Real Sonic looks like something that crawls out of my cupboards at night and eats hair off the floor
detective pikachu is cute and fluffy and actually looks like a pikachu. Real Sonic looks like something that crawls out of my cupboards at night and eats hair off the floor
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I fear both of them, actually! Now, because of my love for Pokemon, I'll still go to see the Detective Pikachu movie. However, because I have no fond memories of or attachment to Sonic, I will avoid it.
[img]https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/MrMime.png[/img]
This... I fear this.
I fear both of them, actually! Now, because of my love for Pokemon, I'll still go to see the Detective Pikachu movie. However, because I have no fond memories of or attachment to Sonic, I will avoid it.
This... I fear this.
This... I fear this.
Bc boy pikachu cute
Sonic? He lookin like the clown from that Stephen King movie
Sonic? He lookin like the clown from that Stephen King movie
Bc boy pikachu cute
Sonic? He lookin like the clown from that Stephen King movie
Sonic? He lookin like the clown from that Stephen King movie
[quote name="RotRat" date="2019-04-30 16:57:24" ]
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[i]hm[/i]
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Dear stormcatcher.
RotRat wrote on 2019-04-30 16:57:24:
hm
[quote name="Moonpearl" date="2019-04-30 18:14:17" ]
I fear both of them, actually! Now, because of my love for Pokemon, I'll still go to see the Detective Pikachu movie. However, because I have no fond memories of or attachment to Sonic, I will avoid it.
[img]https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/MrMime.png[/img]
This... I fear this.
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[quote name="RotRat" date="2019-04-30 16:57:24" ]
[b]TLDR: Pikachu still has that pikachu shape and (arguably) charm, while Sonic looks like they forewent part of the design process.[/b]
in my opinion, it's because the designs in detective pikachu have, so far up to now, proven to translate fairly well into the real world while not sacrificing recognizability
pikachu does look plenty realistic, drawing from the features of irl rodents, but his general shape looks like a pikachu! if you were to make a silouhette o him, he'd have the proportions of the pikachu youre used to, round and, imo, very cute
[img]https://i.imgur.com/u9yABdL.png[/img]
meanwhile, sonic's shape has been changes entirely, he's not usually illustrated with muscles or proper anatomy, and for good reason! hes a very simple design, drawing back from rubberhose cartoons, in a way that you can still see in his design today! the live action version, however,,,,it seems they didnt go through the extra steps to keep these elements in sonic's look, and ended up with some uncanny looking thing.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/xFENVOT.png[/img]
this is a long, opinionated post, but hopefully that makes things clear.
and to clarify! im a huge fan of both of these IPs(sonic has been once of my favorite characters for years!), but one seems like its gone through the steps of realistic AND recognizable, while the other.....
[img]https://i.imgur.com/XUZUyAZ.png[/img]
[i]hm[/i]
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This is majorly informative and I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. I never really got into sonic so I suppose it was lost on me just what kind of unjustice they really did while also being a bit harsh on detective pikachu.
What on earth were they thinking making sonic look like that holy no
RotRat wrote on 2019-04-30 16:57:24:
TLDR: Pikachu still has that pikachu shape and (arguably) charm, while Sonic looks like they forewent part of the design process.
in my opinion, it's because the designs in detective pikachu have, so far up to now, proven to translate fairly well into the real world while not sacrificing recognizability
pikachu does look plenty realistic, drawing from the features of irl rodents, but his general shape looks like a pikachu! if you were to make a silouhette o him, he'd have the proportions of the pikachu youre used to, round and, imo, very cute
meanwhile, sonic's shape has been changes entirely, he's not usually illustrated with muscles or proper anatomy, and for good reason! hes a very simple design, drawing back from rubberhose cartoons, in a way that you can still see in his design today! the live action version, however,,,,it seems they didnt go through the extra steps to keep these elements in sonic's look, and ended up with some uncanny looking thing.
this is a long, opinionated post, but hopefully that makes things clear.
and to clarify! im a huge fan of both of these IPs(sonic has been once of my favorite characters for years!), but one seems like its gone through the steps of realistic AND recognizable, while the other.....
hm
in my opinion, it's because the designs in detective pikachu have, so far up to now, proven to translate fairly well into the real world while not sacrificing recognizability
pikachu does look plenty realistic, drawing from the features of irl rodents, but his general shape looks like a pikachu! if you were to make a silouhette o him, he'd have the proportions of the pikachu youre used to, round and, imo, very cute
meanwhile, sonic's shape has been changes entirely, he's not usually illustrated with muscles or proper anatomy, and for good reason! hes a very simple design, drawing back from rubberhose cartoons, in a way that you can still see in his design today! the live action version, however,,,,it seems they didnt go through the extra steps to keep these elements in sonic's look, and ended up with some uncanny looking thing.
this is a long, opinionated post, but hopefully that makes things clear.
and to clarify! im a huge fan of both of these IPs(sonic has been once of my favorite characters for years!), but one seems like its gone through the steps of realistic AND recognizable, while the other.....
hm
This is majorly informative and I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. I never really got into sonic so I suppose it was lost on me just what kind of unjustice they really did while also being a bit harsh on detective pikachu.
What on earth were they thinking making sonic look like that holy no
[quote name="Icaruz" date="2019-04-30 18:04:12" ]
@RotRat already did an excellent job of explaining why one character design works for most people and the other falls so flat. In addition to that though, Detective Pikachu as a whole just seems to have been made with a lot more love and integrity given to the source material and it shows.
Detective Pikachu is full of designs that are still recognizable and iconic, even covered in realistic fur/skin/scale textures. The proportions of the Pokemon are kept close to the originals and don't have many of the traits that condemn live action adaptations of fictional creatures to being in the eerie uncanny valley. They don't feel like puppets nor are they people/animals dressed in Pokemon suits. The team behind the movie consulted a longtime well-known Pokemon fan artist, who has made dozens of realistic Pokemon designs over the years, to give creative input on the movie. The city the movie takes place in feels genuinely alive and involved, from the way people interact with their Pokemon as pets and companions to the Poke-pop culture references in the in-universe advertisements and neon signs. The presence of Pokemon from all generations shows that this whole movie isn't just an advertising move to pander to G1 nostalgia or sell the newest gen, but shows an environment where all Pokemon can thrive, even the more obscure middle-gen fan favorites. The humor feels geared towards a wide age range to where young and adult fans can both find something to smile about. The Mr. Mime scene shown in the trailers especially nails every single one of these traits so well, making the Pokemon feel alive and like it belongs in that universe and using clever jokes to show the audience what that creature is all about. This scene alone sold me on the movie because it shows the directors truly care about bringing the source material of a beloved 20+ year old franchise to life on the big screen instead of changing random things and making it up as they go along (as tends to happen to many film adaptations of existing franchises for some reason).
The Sonic movie just doesn't have that same love and respect given to the source material, and it's for more reasons than the actual Sonic design (though that in itself is off-putting enough for many fans). The plot is a generic "save the world"/deal-with-military-forces plot without anything special or unique seemingly added in. Eggman is just Jim Carrey playing a Jim Carrey villain and relying on the actor's established quirkiness to sell it, rather than using character traits we already associate with the Eggman we know from most other existing Sonic media. We don't really see anything about the world in the movie that we associate with places we've seen in the Sonic games (maybe City Escape but that feels like a huge stretch). Most of the same jokes and references shown in the trailer could be made with other characters/franchises and aren't unique at all to Sonic. You could take the scene where Sonic is hiding in a bag and replace him with Alvin and the Chipmunks and it would probably still "work," and that series has not aged well at all. I think the thing that irks me the most though personally is that one of the movie's supposedly biggest selling points is that it was made by the same director as The Fast and the Furious. It's almost like they focused too hard on getting that specific tagline to make a pun out of (when imo, the Fast and Furious movies aren't even all that great) and forgot to look for someone who actually knows and loves the series to direct it. The timing also feels like they were trying to capitalize on Detective Pikachu's hype and create the next big video gaming movie without understanding the reasons why people are so excited for Detective Pikachu.
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You know looking at it like that I never realized how much love and effort went into making detective pikachu. I think I should actually give it a shot now that I see they put so much more care into what the fans wanted than I realized. Thank you
Icaruz wrote on 2019-04-30 18:04:12:
@RotRat already did an excellent job of explaining why one character design works for most people and the other falls so flat. In addition to that though, Detective Pikachu as a whole just seems to have been made with a lot more love and integrity given to the source material and it shows.
Detective Pikachu is full of designs that are still recognizable and iconic, even covered in realistic fur/skin/scale textures. The proportions of the Pokemon are kept close to the originals and don't have many of the traits that condemn live action adaptations of fictional creatures to being in the eerie uncanny valley. They don't feel like puppets nor are they people/animals dressed in Pokemon suits. The team behind the movie consulted a longtime well-known Pokemon fan artist, who has made dozens of realistic Pokemon designs over the years, to give creative input on the movie. The city the movie takes place in feels genuinely alive and involved, from the way people interact with their Pokemon as pets and companions to the Poke-pop culture references in the in-universe advertisements and neon signs. The presence of Pokemon from all generations shows that this whole movie isn't just an advertising move to pander to G1 nostalgia or sell the newest gen, but shows an environment where all Pokemon can thrive, even the more obscure middle-gen fan favorites. The humor feels geared towards a wide age range to where young and adult fans can both find something to smile about. The Mr. Mime scene shown in the trailers especially nails every single one of these traits so well, making the Pokemon feel alive and like it belongs in that universe and using clever jokes to show the audience what that creature is all about. This scene alone sold me on the movie because it shows the directors truly care about bringing the source material of a beloved 20+ year old franchise to life on the big screen instead of changing random things and making it up as they go along (as tends to happen to many film adaptations of existing franchises for some reason).
The Sonic movie just doesn't have that same love and respect given to the source material, and it's for more reasons than the actual Sonic design (though that in itself is off-putting enough for many fans). The plot is a generic "save the world"/deal-with-military-forces plot without anything special or unique seemingly added in. Eggman is just Jim Carrey playing a Jim Carrey villain and relying on the actor's established quirkiness to sell it, rather than using character traits we already associate with the Eggman we know from most other existing Sonic media. We don't really see anything about the world in the movie that we associate with places we've seen in the Sonic games (maybe City Escape but that feels like a huge stretch). Most of the same jokes and references shown in the trailer could be made with other characters/franchises and aren't unique at all to Sonic. You could take the scene where Sonic is hiding in a bag and replace him with Alvin and the Chipmunks and it would probably still "work," and that series has not aged well at all. I think the thing that irks me the most though personally is that one of the movie's supposedly biggest selling points is that it was made by the same director as The Fast and the Furious. It's almost like they focused too hard on getting that specific tagline to make a pun out of (when imo, the Fast and Furious movies aren't even all that great) and forgot to look for someone who actually knows and loves the series to direct it. The timing also feels like they were trying to capitalize on Detective Pikachu's hype and create the next big video gaming movie without understanding the reasons why people are so excited for Detective Pikachu.
Detective Pikachu is full of designs that are still recognizable and iconic, even covered in realistic fur/skin/scale textures. The proportions of the Pokemon are kept close to the originals and don't have many of the traits that condemn live action adaptations of fictional creatures to being in the eerie uncanny valley. They don't feel like puppets nor are they people/animals dressed in Pokemon suits. The team behind the movie consulted a longtime well-known Pokemon fan artist, who has made dozens of realistic Pokemon designs over the years, to give creative input on the movie. The city the movie takes place in feels genuinely alive and involved, from the way people interact with their Pokemon as pets and companions to the Poke-pop culture references in the in-universe advertisements and neon signs. The presence of Pokemon from all generations shows that this whole movie isn't just an advertising move to pander to G1 nostalgia or sell the newest gen, but shows an environment where all Pokemon can thrive, even the more obscure middle-gen fan favorites. The humor feels geared towards a wide age range to where young and adult fans can both find something to smile about. The Mr. Mime scene shown in the trailers especially nails every single one of these traits so well, making the Pokemon feel alive and like it belongs in that universe and using clever jokes to show the audience what that creature is all about. This scene alone sold me on the movie because it shows the directors truly care about bringing the source material of a beloved 20+ year old franchise to life on the big screen instead of changing random things and making it up as they go along (as tends to happen to many film adaptations of existing franchises for some reason).
The Sonic movie just doesn't have that same love and respect given to the source material, and it's for more reasons than the actual Sonic design (though that in itself is off-putting enough for many fans). The plot is a generic "save the world"/deal-with-military-forces plot without anything special or unique seemingly added in. Eggman is just Jim Carrey playing a Jim Carrey villain and relying on the actor's established quirkiness to sell it, rather than using character traits we already associate with the Eggman we know from most other existing Sonic media. We don't really see anything about the world in the movie that we associate with places we've seen in the Sonic games (maybe City Escape but that feels like a huge stretch). Most of the same jokes and references shown in the trailer could be made with other characters/franchises and aren't unique at all to Sonic. You could take the scene where Sonic is hiding in a bag and replace him with Alvin and the Chipmunks and it would probably still "work," and that series has not aged well at all. I think the thing that irks me the most though personally is that one of the movie's supposedly biggest selling points is that it was made by the same director as The Fast and the Furious. It's almost like they focused too hard on getting that specific tagline to make a pun out of (when imo, the Fast and Furious movies aren't even all that great) and forgot to look for someone who actually knows and loves the series to direct it. The timing also feels like they were trying to capitalize on Detective Pikachu's hype and create the next big video gaming movie without understanding the reasons why people are so excited for Detective Pikachu.
You know looking at it like that I never realized how much love and effort went into making detective pikachu. I think I should actually give it a shot now that I see they put so much more care into what the fans wanted than I realized. Thank you