Well, this is a completely random question, but I'm curious and I have no idea how to calculate odds.
Say, I've been trying to get a specific colored male Imp that is older than 8 months now and I'm toying with the idea just to buy an old one with the right eye color and try scattering it. I don't want something extreemly specific, just an green-ish range primary + a brown-ish range secondary, don't care about the tert.
So, how do you calculate the chance of getting certain colors on FR? I'm super curious and would appreciate any help c:
EDIT: Wait I posted this in the wrong forum, didn't I? Sorry ._.
Well, this is a completely random question, but I'm curious and I have no idea how to calculate odds.
Say, I've been trying to get a specific colored male Imp that is older than 8 months now and I'm toying with the idea just to buy an old one with the right eye color and try scattering it. I don't want something extreemly specific, just an green-ish range primary + a brown-ish range secondary, don't care about the tert.
So, how do you calculate the chance of getting certain colors on FR? I'm super curious and would appreciate any help c:
EDIT: Wait I posted this in the wrong forum, didn't I? Sorry ._.
I'm going to say this straight up, as a person who actually went through with trying to achieve a specific colour range with scattering: you will not get the colours you want. Don't do it.
Lemme go find the info I need and do the math and I'll get back to you on the actual odds real quick. :)
I'm going to say this straight up, as a person who actually went through with trying to achieve a specific colour range with scattering: you will not get the colours you want. Don't do it.
Lemme go find the info I need and do the math and I'll get back to you on the actual odds real quick. :)
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Tunesmith
I'm just quite desperate haha-
contacted quite a lot of people already who have that kind of dragon and everyone's been politely turning me down or just never replied, which I fully understand, but I really want to stop bothering people
Oh yeah and thanks :)
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Tunesmith
I'm just quite desperate haha-
contacted quite a lot of people already who have that kind of dragon and everyone's been politely turning me down or just never replied, which I fully understand, but I really want to stop bothering people
Oh yeah and thanks :)
The chance of getting a specific color combo is 1 in 67x67x67, or 1 in 300,763.
If you're willing to accept a range of colors, you can calculate it like this:
[number of acceptable primaries] x [number of acceptable secondaries] x [number of acceptable tertiaries] in 300,763
So if I was willing to take a maize, white, or ice primary, any of the 10 blue secondaries, and only a leaf tertiary, my chance would be 3x10x1 = 30 in 300,763, which reduces (just divide both sides by 30) to 1 in 10,025.43.
The chance of getting a specific color combo is 1 in 67x67x67, or 1 in 300,763.
If you're willing to accept a range of colors, you can calculate it like this:
[number of acceptable primaries] x [number of acceptable secondaries] x [number of acceptable tertiaries] in 300,763
So if I was willing to take a maize, white, or ice primary, any of the 10 blue secondaries, and only a leaf tertiary, my chance would be 3x10x1 = 30 in 300,763, which reduces (just divide both sides by 30) to 1 in 10,025.43.
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@AlfredFJones:
The basics of flight rising colour is that each one is taken from this wheel/list of 67:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/IScZGte.jpg[/img]
When breeding, your options are any colour between the specific colours of the parents. (IE, gold primary on one and goldenrod primary on another means you'll get anything in that yellow range as the primary).
When scattering, the RNG just takes one colour for each of the primary, secondary, and tert and plugs it in as the new colour for your dragon. I do not believe any preference is given to matching colours or specific X/Y/Z combinations.
So basically, your chances for a specific result in each colour slot are 1/67
(1/67)^3=1/300,763
As in, you would probably have to scroll, on average, 300,763 times to get the specific colour combo you want.
If you are going for a looser range, then you'd change that multiplication of odds to be the number of colours you're open to, which... give me a minute..
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AlfredFJones:
The basics of flight rising colour is that each one is taken from this wheel/list of 67:

When breeding, your options are any colour between the specific colours of the parents. (IE, gold primary on one and goldenrod primary on another means you'll get anything in that yellow range as the primary).
When scattering, the RNG just takes one colour for each of the primary, secondary, and tert and plugs it in as the new colour for your dragon. I do not believe any preference is given to matching colours or specific X/Y/Z combinations.
So basically, your chances for a specific result in each colour slot are 1/67
(1/67)^3=1/300,763
As in, you would probably have to scroll, on average, 300,763 times to get the specific colour combo you want.
If you are going for a looser range, then you'd change that multiplication of odds to be the number of colours you're open to, which... give me a minute..
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AdeleneDawner @
Tunesmith
Thanks so much!
...well, probably gonna try just for a green primary and make a skin/accent that makes the secondary brown, I think that'll save more gems ^^'
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AdeleneDawner @
Tunesmith
Thanks so much!
...well, probably gonna try just for a green primary and make a skin/accent that makes the secondary brown, I think that'll save more gems ^^'
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AlfredFJones Just to give you an idea - here are the colors of a dragon I scattered. I STILL haven't gotten anything I really like :l
White/Navy/Midnight - >
Beige/Shadow/Shadow
Storm/Teal/Coal
Orange/Teal/Platinum
Steel/Sand/Maroon
Crimson/Ice/Swamp
Obs/Azure/Platinum
Thistle/Azure/Sky
Tanguerine/Aqua/Azure
Navy/Orange/Charcoal
Swamp/Platinum/Storm
Charcoal/Denim/Aqua
Jungle/Caribbean/Jungle
Maroon/Teal/Beige
Leaf/Obsidian/Violet
Blood/Lemon/Emerald
Azure/Banana/Swamp
Carmine/Ivory/Blood
Pink/Ivory/Coal
Emerald/Black/Gold
Seafoam/Fire/Obsidian
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AlfredFJones Just to give you an idea - here are the colors of a dragon I scattered. I STILL haven't gotten anything I really like :l
White/Navy/Midnight - >
Beige/Shadow/Shadow
Storm/Teal/Coal
Orange/Teal/Platinum
Steel/Sand/Maroon
Crimson/Ice/Swamp
Obs/Azure/Platinum
Thistle/Azure/Sky
Tanguerine/Aqua/Azure
Navy/Orange/Charcoal
Swamp/Platinum/Storm
Charcoal/Denim/Aqua
Jungle/Caribbean/Jungle
Maroon/Teal/Beige
Leaf/Obsidian/Violet
Blood/Lemon/Emerald
Azure/Banana/Swamp
Carmine/Ivory/Blood
Pink/Ivory/Coal
Emerald/Black/Gold
Seafoam/Fire/Obsidian
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AlfredFJones: Whoops! Didn't actually read your first post right-- that shows me for posting without thinking haha. If you're looser on the colours and going for the range you're looking for, then your odds would be more like:
(both "green" and "brown" seem to encompass, at most, 7 colours each.)
7/67x7/67= 49/4489
Or, if I'm doing my math right, about a 1/91 chance? Someone might have to correct me here.
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AlfredFJones: Whoops! Didn't actually read your first post right-- that shows me for posting without thinking haha. If you're looser on the colours and going for the range you're looking for, then your odds would be more like:
(both "green" and "brown" seem to encompass, at most, 7 colours each.)
7/67x7/67= 49/4489
Or, if I'm doing my math right, about a 1/91 chance? Someone might have to correct me here.
What I'd do is look at the pair you're breeding with the
FR color predictor, and then count the colors in the range. Say you have a tert range of five colors. Then you'd have a 1 in 5 or a 20% chance of getting that tert color when breeding.
Edit: whoops you meant scattering. Good question! And I see a bunch of people replied while I got dragged off to play legos for a bit.
What I'd do is look at the pair you're breeding with the
FR color predictor, and then count the colors in the range. Say you have a tert range of five colors. Then you'd have a 1 in 5 or a 20% chance of getting that tert color when breeding.
Edit: whoops you meant scattering. Good question! And I see a bunch of people replied while I got dragged off to play legos for a bit.
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AlfredFJones
Pfft, I tried scatter on one of my progens because I figured "any colour will be better than purple".
She turned violet.
Haha, I think I misunderstood your question first, saved what I wrote at the bottom of this post though.
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Anyway, I don't know anything about any outright calculation. For me, when I'm not so picky with colours I start at the Auction House, checking if someone has about-ish what I look for.
So, I don't know which eye colour you want so I disregard that and start with the male imp. Plenty of those around. Narrow down to, say, emerald prim. Adding chocolate on secondary didn't give anything, but brown and stone did. I try jungle prim and go through the brown secondary colours again. Avocado and chocolate (sounds like a dessert) even had a cheap one, though that's probably because it's coated in carmine crackle.
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If you're willing to make this a breeding endeavour then you can widen your search range even further and include colours that are on the edge of green or brown in the hope that the offspring will have the correct colours. I have incorporated violet and green dragons in my otherwise blue lair just because they are "on the edge of being right" I can get a nice wide blue range with them if I pair them right.
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AlfredFJones
Pfft, I tried scatter on one of my progens because I figured "any colour will be better than purple".
She turned violet.
Haha, I think I misunderstood your question first, saved what I wrote at the bottom of this post though.
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Anyway, I don't know anything about any outright calculation. For me, when I'm not so picky with colours I start at the Auction House, checking if someone has about-ish what I look for.
So, I don't know which eye colour you want so I disregard that and start with the male imp. Plenty of those around. Narrow down to, say, emerald prim. Adding chocolate on secondary didn't give anything, but brown and stone did. I try jungle prim and go through the brown secondary colours again. Avocado and chocolate (sounds like a dessert) even had a cheap one, though that's probably because it's coated in carmine crackle.
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If you're willing to make this a breeding endeavour then you can widen your search range even further and include colours that are on the edge of green or brown in the hope that the offspring will have the correct colours. I have incorporated violet and green dragons in my otherwise blue lair just because they are "on the edge of being right" I can get a nice wide blue range with them if I pair them right.
Don't forget to ping me @Aryllia to get my attention.