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i have a little bit of free time so i'll give out art critiques to anyone that wants them <3 (do people even want them i'm not sure haha)

anyway just post 1-4 examples and maybe what you're having trouble with and i'll try my best to give out some advice! i'm better with humans than i am with dragons but i'll do my best on both ~

(please note that i sometimes draw over images to illustrate my point; also i'm not a professional so feel free to disagree with me or correct me ~)


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i have a little bit of free time so i'll give out art critiques to anyone that wants them <3 (do people even want them i'm not sure haha)

anyway just post 1-4 examples and maybe what you're having trouble with and i'll try my best to give out some advice! i'm better with humans than i am with dragons but i'll do my best on both ~

(please note that i sometimes draw over images to illustrate my point; also i'm not a professional so feel free to disagree with me or correct me ~)


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@razu Hullo! Honestly, I'm always looking to improve my art, so at least I always look for critique. XD I know you said you're better at humans, but can you take a stab at my doodle I did yesterday below? As a note, I didn't do any shading on it except the eye, and it was a colored sketch so that's why it is messy. :3 Also, I know I sorta added my own 'ear' to it, but it felt awkward attaching it to the circle thingies, plus the earring wouldn't have been so easily seen, aha. EDIT: I don't really have something I'm having too much trouble with... I guess the feathers and neck shape count as the things I need help with. And ONE more thing: I really didn't try hard on the feathers, but I'm terrible at them anyways so if you have any sort of critique for them I'll gladly take it, haha. [img]http://imgur.com/f6KmYpG.png[/img] Thanks in advance! :D
@razu
Hullo! Honestly, I'm always looking to improve my art, so at least I always look for critique. XD I know you said you're better at humans, but can you take a stab at my doodle I did yesterday below?

As a note, I didn't do any shading on it except the eye, and it was a colored sketch so that's why it is messy. :3 Also, I know I sorta added my own 'ear' to it, but it felt awkward attaching it to the circle thingies, plus the earring wouldn't have been so easily seen, aha.

EDIT: I don't really have something I'm having too much trouble with... I guess the feathers and neck shape count as the things I need help with.

And ONE more thing: I really didn't try hard on the feathers, but I'm terrible at them anyways so if you have any sort of critique for them I'll gladly take it, haha.

f6KmYpG.png

Thanks in advance! :D
x8z3xmt.pngFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16
@razu I did these recently: [img]http://imgur.com/TNX0jRs.jpg[/img] [img]http://imgur.com/SvndgvE.jpg[/img] Digital: [img]http://imgur.com/992LE9i.jpg[/img] and a others if you want to look here :) http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/art/2139878/1
@razu
I did these recently:
TNX0jRs.jpg
SvndgvE.jpg


Digital:
992LE9i.jpg

and a others if you want to look here :)
http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/art/2139878/1
[sub][color=4d4b4f]@MorningSkye14 sure i'll give it a try! i really like what you got so far so i only a a few small points i want to make ;o; first thing i noticed was that the throat stays roughly the same in terms of width - usually coatls/dragons throats get wider as you approach the bust area (? i don't know the term sorry;;) [img]http://i.imgur.com/LdPFZMq.png[/img] (you could probably make it even wider than i did) second thing i noticed was that little but of fur on their neck was very linear try to letting it vary a little in length & shape makes it look more organic also the little swirls are directly connected to the feathers although i'm not 100% certain on that :^D [img]http://i.imgur.com/uxs6wTr.png[/img] here's a little edited version with varied fur length (rip earring) i also places the necklace a little different mostly because it adds to the flow by removing a parallel (bottom of the head & necklace) but that comes down to preference i think ~ as for the feathers: most wide feathers have a very stump edge on top instead of a sharp one [img]https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/UT8GAE.XTlXXXagOFbXQ/feathers-for-sale.jpg[/img] and can sometimes have little dents in them [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/28/81/de/2881dea976e3a8a5ddd5a85f99a8a9df.jpg[/img] i hope this is somewhat helpful to you <3
@MorningSkye14 sure i'll give it a try!

i really like what you got so far so i only a a few small points i want to make ;o;
first thing i noticed was that the throat stays roughly the same in terms of width - usually coatls/dragons throats get wider as you approach the bust area (? i don't know the term sorry;;)
LdPFZMq.png
(you could probably make it even wider than i did)
second thing i noticed was that little but of fur on their neck was very linear try to letting it vary a little in length & shape makes it look more organic

also the little swirls are directly connected to the feathers although i'm not 100% certain on that :^D
uxs6wTr.png
here's a little edited version with varied fur length (rip earring)
i also places the necklace a little different mostly because it adds to the flow by removing a parallel (bottom of the head & necklace) but that comes down to preference i think ~

as for the feathers: most wide feathers have a very stump edge on top instead of a sharp one
feathers-for-sale.jpg
and can sometimes have little dents in them
2881dea976e3a8a5ddd5a85f99a8a9df.jpg

i hope this is somewhat helpful to you <3
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@razu
Ooh, this really helps, thanks for taking the time to critique my sketch! c: I'll try sketching another coatl and use your tips later. Thanks again!
@razu
Ooh, this really helps, thanks for taking the time to critique my sketch! c: I'll try sketching another coatl and use your tips later. Thanks again!
x8z3xmt.pngFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16
[sub][color=4d4b4f]@thefaceradar hey i hope that you don't mind me going a little more in depth with this one! the main problem i see are the very soft edges and the low contrast on your different planes - which makes to whole image seem blurry (i'll illustrate my points on the third image but they mostly can be applied to the other two as well) [b]1) contrast and flow[/b] even when working the no line work or when you are painting, high contrast/shadows are mandatory to create the illusion of 3D and distinctive shapes here's a close up of a rembrandt piece [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0a/69/6a/0a696a3e3b21c2f39a38055d97fd5437.jpg[/img] you can clearly see the hard edges on the ruff that help separate the different planes/angles, but you can also see many soft shadows that ease the eye, create texture and the feeling of 3D also all the strokes are made [i]with[/i] the material (if that makes sense to you); for instance if you want to paint fur or hair you usually want your strokes to follow the direction of the hair from inside to outside; here's a little visualization [img]http://i.imgur.com/0p5wIff.png[/img] it's less important in digital art, but it will still help out the flow of your art tremendously usually what you want to go for when painting anything is a high overall contrast - especially when doing hair/fur [img]http://i.imgur.com/fLAEJdr.png[/img] i roughly painted over a small part of the fur adding more contrast and collowing the flow of the hair - you could probably add even darker shadows depending on what light setting you're going for (i also adjusted the shapes a little but i'll touch on that later) [b]2) colors [/b] when picking colors you always want to think about their relation with each other! meaning you perceive values and colors differently depending on their surroundings [img]http://i.imgur.com/mSeHp78.png[/img] the best thing to do is setting the main color of the image before you start drawing and then pick the others accordingly so that they don't overpower your main color/mood i did another visualization which i hope helps more than me explaining everything with only text [img]http://i.imgur.com/d9Xs0KU.png[/img] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alx-H_Rmpvw]i think this is a pretty good tutorial (series)[/url] that goes into more detail than what i just said so feel free to check it out if you're interested in more color picking! [b]3) shapes[/b] last thing i want to touch on kinda moves and in hand with sharp edges! your digital lines look very shaky [img]http://i.imgur.com/fpGwSa2.png[/img] i recommend practicing longer strokes with your wrist and prioritizing them over small hand strokes simply because they are more fluid you seem to be doing this already in your traditional art so i don't think this will be hard to you c: last thing is when you are drawing always look for a reference to what you're drawing (it can be kinda hard with fr dragons, but you can use substitutes like lions for tundras, snakes for spirals, wood/sticks for imperial horns etc.) i flipped an image of my imperial to kinda show you the silhouette/raw shapes of their head - obviously they can be stylized to have different sized features [img]http://i.imgur.com/fw4TWWC.png[/img] well that's all i really hope this helps you in some way <3
@thefaceradar hey i hope that you don't mind me going a little more in depth with this one!


the main problem i see are the very soft edges and the low contrast on your different planes - which makes to whole image seem blurry
(i'll illustrate my points on the third image but they mostly can be applied to the other two as well)


1) contrast and flow

even when working the no line work or when you are painting, high contrast/shadows are mandatory to create the illusion of 3D and distinctive shapes

here's a close up of a rembrandt piece
0a696a3e3b21c2f39a38055d97fd5437.jpg
you can clearly see the hard edges on the ruff that help separate the different planes/angles, but you can also see many soft shadows that ease the eye, create texture and the feeling of 3D
also all the strokes are made with the material (if that makes sense to you); for instance if you want to paint fur or hair you usually want your strokes to follow the direction of the hair from inside to outside; here's a little visualization
0p5wIff.png
it's less important in digital art, but it will still help out the flow of your art tremendously

usually what you want to go for when painting anything is a high overall contrast - especially when doing hair/fur
fLAEJdr.png
i roughly painted over a small part of the fur adding more contrast and collowing the flow of the hair - you could probably add even darker shadows depending on what light setting you're going for
(i also adjusted the shapes a little but i'll touch on that later)

2) colors

when picking colors you always want to think about their relation with each other! meaning you perceive values and colors differently depending on their surroundings
mSeHp78.png

the best thing to do is setting the main color of the image before you start drawing and then pick the others accordingly so that they don't overpower your main color/mood
i did another visualization which i hope helps more than me explaining everything with only text

d9Xs0KU.png

i think this is a pretty good tutorial (series) that goes into more detail than what i just said so feel free to check it out if you're interested in more color picking!

3) shapes

last thing i want to touch on kinda moves and in hand with sharp edges! your digital lines look very shaky
fpGwSa2.png
i recommend practicing longer strokes with your wrist and prioritizing them over small hand strokes simply because they are more fluid
you seem to be doing this already in your traditional art so i don't think this will be hard to you c:

last thing is when you are drawing always look for a reference to what you're drawing (it can be kinda hard with fr dragons, but you can use substitutes like lions for tundras, snakes for spirals, wood/sticks for imperial horns etc.)
i flipped an image of my imperial to kinda show you the silhouette/raw shapes of their head - obviously they can be stylized to have different sized features
fw4TWWC.png


well that's all i really hope this helps you in some way <3
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@MorningSkye14 thank you i'm glad i could help ;o; <3
@MorningSkye14 thank you i'm glad i could help ;o; <3
xxxxxNIKOLAI / 23 / +9H
xxxxxART xxxxTWITTER
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@razu
Thanks so much!
:o
that all makes sense, I will try to apply it to the next things i do! The hair/fur is probably one of the hardest parts for me still, but thanks for the help!!
(I guess i should just practice some more to get it down ^-^)
@razu
Thanks so much!
:o
that all makes sense, I will try to apply it to the next things i do! The hair/fur is probably one of the hardest parts for me still, but thanks for the help!!
(I guess i should just practice some more to get it down ^-^)
@thefaceradar you're welcome glad i could help ;o;
yeah fur was (and is) one of the hardest challenges for me as well & it's just so time consuming to do as well ;;
@thefaceradar you're welcome glad i could help ;o;
yeah fur was (and is) one of the hardest challenges for me as well & it's just so time consuming to do as well ;;
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recently i've been trying to learn how to paint digitally and it's... well, it's a Thing.
here's a recent attempt
i feel like there's something missing or not quite right but i'm just not sure what it is. if you've any advice i'd greatly appreciate it!! 0:
recently i've been trying to learn how to paint digitally and it's... well, it's a Thing.
here's a recent attempt
i feel like there's something missing or not quite right but i'm just not sure what it is. if you've any advice i'd greatly appreciate it!! 0:
The Fortress of Ice - Rollocke

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dottore... DOTTORE!!!
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