So, I have been considering getting a ball python for a while now and I have done A LOT of research and I have saved up quite a bit too. and I have just one concern - other pets. I have a small cat who is declawed and cannot bite even if he tried so I am not to worried about him. I have read a lot of forums and people say that a snake is no harm to household pets either but I just want another opinion on both sides. My other concern is that people often say they are not good beginner snakes, but I have had iguanas and LOTS of other critters so I am confident. Any advice is much appreciated!
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So, I have been considering getting a ball python for a while now and I have done A LOT of research and I have saved up quite a bit too. and I have just one concern - other pets. I have a small cat who is declawed and cannot bite even if he tried so I am not to worried about him. I have read a lot of forums and people say that a snake is no harm to household pets either but I just want another opinion on both sides. My other concern is that people often say they are not good beginner snakes, but I have had iguanas and LOTS of other critters so I am confident. Any advice is much appreciated!
Update: I have friends that are willing to feed / look after the snake if I am gone.
Update: I have friends that are willing to feed / look after the snake if I am gone.
Don't put it in a freezer :P
Don't put it in a freezer :P
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LaughingZuru
Other pets shouldn't be a problem and snakes can be left alone for a few days, but ball pythons are definitely not beginner snakes.
Just sayin'.
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LaughingZuru
Other pets shouldn't be a problem and snakes can be left alone for a few days, but ball pythons are definitely not beginner snakes.
Just sayin'.
"Solas, have I ever wanted to hear one of your endless explanations? Ever."
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ArchieHicox why don't you think balls are good beginner snakes? My first and only snake is a ball python, and I've never really had any problems with him. And most sources I've found say that balls are good for beginners.
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LaughingZuru ball pythons are fine being left on their own, even for a few days, and if you set the vivarium up right then there's no way it could escape and hurt/be hurt by your other pets. I have two dogs and honestly, they've never showed an interest in my python even when I've had him out of his viv. Cats I'm not so sure about, but if you're very worried you can just handle the snake in a room with the door shut so the cat can't get in.
That out of the way, how much do you know about ball pythons and their care? I suggest putting in at least a few hours of research, and looking into alternative species to make sure a ball is right for you, and making sure you can afford everything! Snakes are not cheap pets to set up. Once you've got everything, they're pretty low-maintenance and cheap. But buying the vivarium, the heating equipment, decorations, water bowls, all that? Expensive. And it's going to have to be fully replaced at least once as the snake grows. Just make sure you're ready for the financial investment.
You've also got to be prepared to feed your snake... which isn't pretty! You'll have to have a supply of frozen mice/rats in your freezer, and they smell *bad*. It's kinda gross until you get used to it. :P And you have to handle your snake regularly! It can be a little daunting at first, especially if you have no experience. But ball pythons are very docile even when young, and are pretty much the least nippy snakes out there, and they get accustomed to handling quickly too.
I'm by no means an expert on snake ownership, I'm just someone who has a pet python. But I hope this was helpful to you, and if you want to know anything else, you're welcome to ask me (though I seriously recommend looking at some proper care sheets too, if you haven't already!).
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ArchieHicox why don't you think balls are good beginner snakes? My first and only snake is a ball python, and I've never really had any problems with him. And most sources I've found say that balls are good for beginners.
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LaughingZuru ball pythons are fine being left on their own, even for a few days, and if you set the vivarium up right then there's no way it could escape and hurt/be hurt by your other pets. I have two dogs and honestly, they've never showed an interest in my python even when I've had him out of his viv. Cats I'm not so sure about, but if you're very worried you can just handle the snake in a room with the door shut so the cat can't get in.
That out of the way, how much do you know about ball pythons and their care? I suggest putting in at least a few hours of research, and looking into alternative species to make sure a ball is right for you, and making sure you can afford everything! Snakes are not cheap pets to set up. Once you've got everything, they're pretty low-maintenance and cheap. But buying the vivarium, the heating equipment, decorations, water bowls, all that? Expensive. And it's going to have to be fully replaced at least once as the snake grows. Just make sure you're ready for the financial investment.
You've also got to be prepared to feed your snake... which isn't pretty! You'll have to have a supply of frozen mice/rats in your freezer, and they smell *bad*. It's kinda gross until you get used to it. :P And you have to handle your snake regularly! It can be a little daunting at first, especially if you have no experience. But ball pythons are very docile even when young, and are pretty much the least nippy snakes out there, and they get accustomed to handling quickly too.
I'm by no means an expert on snake ownership, I'm just someone who has a pet python. But I hope this was helpful to you, and if you want to know anything else, you're welcome to ask me (though I seriously recommend looking at some proper care sheets too, if you haven't already!).
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Charias
Well, those are bad sources, then. Because in my opinion, they aren't for beginners. Nor do I know any snake owners who'd recommend a ball as beginner snake.
They're picky eaters, they are more sensitive to humidity and temperature, and they often get sick/parasites if not properly taken care of (and even if temperature/humidity is correct, they can get parasites).
I've heard about sick ball pythons so many times, and it's mostly the owner's fault.
I just suggest going for an easier snake first, a corn snake, for example.
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Charias
Well, those are bad sources, then. Because in my opinion, they aren't for beginners. Nor do I know any snake owners who'd recommend a ball as beginner snake.
They're picky eaters, they are more sensitive to humidity and temperature, and they often get sick/parasites if not properly taken care of (and even if temperature/humidity is correct, they can get parasites).
I've heard about sick ball pythons so many times, and it's mostly the owner's fault.
I just suggest going for an easier snake first, a corn snake, for example.
"Solas, have I ever wanted to hear one of your endless explanations? Ever."
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ArchieHicox yes, balls can be picky eaters. That's not a massive problem though - when they fast, leave them to it unless they start drastically losing weight, and if they don't take rats, give them multimammates instead. It's not a big deal. Just costs slightly more. Never had any problems with humidity - I mean, all you've got to do is put the water bowl over the heat mat. And my snake's never been sick once. :/
And it wasn't just one source that said they were good beginners snakes... it was a lot of different ones. Obviously, corns were at the top of the list, but ball pythons
were on the list. And I'd agree with them. I had no experience at all beforehand and my snake is doing fine, has been the two-and-a-half years I've had him. I wouldn't recommend them for everyone, but I don't like seeing them "disqualified" just because they're slightly more awkward to care for than corns. You've just got to be willing to put a little more effort in - but that's not about experience.
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ArchieHicox yes, balls can be picky eaters. That's not a massive problem though - when they fast, leave them to it unless they start drastically losing weight, and if they don't take rats, give them multimammates instead. It's not a big deal. Just costs slightly more. Never had any problems with humidity - I mean, all you've got to do is put the water bowl over the heat mat. And my snake's never been sick once. :/
And it wasn't just one source that said they were good beginners snakes... it was a lot of different ones. Obviously, corns were at the top of the list, but ball pythons
were on the list. And I'd agree with them. I had no experience at all beforehand and my snake is doing fine, has been the two-and-a-half years I've had him. I wouldn't recommend them for everyone, but I don't like seeing them "disqualified" just because they're slightly more awkward to care for than corns. You've just got to be willing to put a little more effort in - but that's not about experience.
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Charias
Just because YOUR snake is doing fine, doesn't mean ALL snakes are doing fine. Trust me, I have my reasons for not recommending ball pythons as beginner snakes. I've made more than enough bad experiences - my two ball pythons are rescues, too. They've been handled too much, they had salmonella, and they refused to eat. They're about three years old now, and when I got them, they were weighing way too little. They're now slowly gaining weight since I have them. And it's not only my snakes that have had this problem. I've heard it oh so often. "My snake is sick", "my snake died", "looking to rehome rescued ball pythons", etc.
I'm not saying no beginner can take care of a ball. Never said so. Just in
general I don't see them as beginner snakes.
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Charias
Just because YOUR snake is doing fine, doesn't mean ALL snakes are doing fine. Trust me, I have my reasons for not recommending ball pythons as beginner snakes. I've made more than enough bad experiences - my two ball pythons are rescues, too. They've been handled too much, they had salmonella, and they refused to eat. They're about three years old now, and when I got them, they were weighing way too little. They're now slowly gaining weight since I have them. And it's not only my snakes that have had this problem. I've heard it oh so often. "My snake is sick", "my snake died", "looking to rehome rescued ball pythons", etc.
I'm not saying no beginner can take care of a ball. Never said so. Just in
general I don't see them as beginner snakes.
"Solas, have I ever wanted to hear one of your endless explanations? Ever."
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ArchieHicox that seems a lot more like neglect than a lack of experience. An inexperienced person who was willing to put the time and effort into researching and properly caring for their snake would never end up in that situation.
I honestly think its more about effort than experience. But then, that's pretty much the same with any pet.
I guess we should probably just agree to disagree? Or we're gonna end up completely derailing this thread. :P
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ArchieHicox that seems a lot more like neglect than a lack of experience. An inexperienced person who was willing to put the time and effort into researching and properly caring for their snake would never end up in that situation.
I honestly think its more about effort than experience. But then, that's pretty much the same with any pet.
I guess we should probably just agree to disagree? Or we're gonna end up completely derailing this thread. :P
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Charias
I think I've said everything I had to say, and you seemed to have missed a part of it.
But well, I'm not going to explain it once more, so yeah, just leave it like this^^
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Charias
I think I've said everything I had to say, and you seemed to have missed a part of it.
But well, I'm not going to explain it once more, so yeah, just leave it like this^^
"Solas, have I ever wanted to hear one of your endless explanations? Ever."