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TOPIC | [TOOL] Feeding Calc 2: Electric Boogaloo
I've been using @Wobblegong's feeding calculator for ages, so when I heard they were retiring it, I decided why not pick it up myself? I'm no lightning, but I [i]am[/i] a super nerd with a spreadsheet obsession, and I had already figured out the sheet in order to update my own personal copy... so what kind of nature would I be if I didn't share? Wobble had a good explanation of it all in their original spreadsheet, so I'll just paste it and edit what I need to, in the interest of pure unfiltered laziness [b][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1483717/1](you can find the original thread HERE)[/url][/b] [rule][i][color=gray](credit to @Wobblegong for putting the original info & spreadsheet together)[/color][/i] [center][b][size=7]1. Feeding Calculator[size=7][/b][/center] [center][size=5][b][url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lp8Dc88vhd5ENAyYo-C_LMN7XKKE6S2AbSN84BXMv_w/edit?usp=sharing]click HERE for my updated calculator (googledocs)[/url][/b][/size] To use, right-click the Calculator sheet and select: [u]Duplicate[/u] to grab a copy for use right away [u]Copy To[/u] to add a copy to one of your own private documents[/center] Enter information about how many of each breed is living in your lair. The calculator will give you information about how many food points of what types you'd need to feed everyone under various circumstances. The [b]normal feeding conditions[/b] section is most useful for normal gameplay. It tells you: [LIST] [*]what you need to pony up every time the lair ticks down one energy [*]how much you spend in a 24-hour period keeping everyone fed (3 hunger ticks) [*]how much food you'd need if you left the game and came back to a starving lair of 0-energy dragons [i](note: since the Bounty of the Elements update, if you leave the site for longer than 45 days, you will come back to 100% full energy)[/i] [/LIST] This is useful for the curious or those trying to figure out what food types they use more of. The [b]subsistence feeding[/b] section is more complicated but useful for people trying to game food preferences to stretch their supplies. You do this by starting at 0/0/0/0 and converting one food type at a time, feeding in between conversions. For example, starting at 0/0/0/0, convert meat items into meat points, Feed the lair until everyone who eats meat is full, then convert seafood, Feed until everyone who eats that is full, etc. There are four subsections, one for each type of food to use first. Within a subsection are six choices for secondary, tertiary and quaternary foods. The four-letter combo at the top indicates what order you could administer foods in, and the numbers beneath the heading tell you how much you'd need of each type if administered in that order. [quote=Example]Say my food point stores are low. I input my lair breed totals in the designated space. According to the Normal Feeding Conditions section, for one energy I need: 22 insects / 10 meat / 21 seafood / 17 plants However, I have lots of Insect foods available, some Plants, little Meat, and almost no Seafood. If everyone eats their favorite foods the picky Seafood-only eaters will go hungry pretty soon! I decide to hand things out more carefully to stretch my meager supplies. In order from most to least I have [b]I[/b]nsects, [b]P[/b]lants, [b]M[/b]eat and [b]S[/b]eafood. I check the "I have lots of Insects!" section, then find the [b]IPMS[/b] header. The numbers under it tell me that for one energy I need: [center]44 insects / 2 meat / 11 seafood / 13 plants[/center] So when my lair ticks down one energy, I go to my hoard and convert 44 food points worth of insects. I hit Feed, then go back to my hoard and convert 13 food points worth of plants. Feed, convert 2 meat, Feed, convert 11 seafood, Feed. Voila, everyone's fed, and it mostly used the insects I had plenty of.[/quote] Note that duplicate outcomes are possible. When running the above test, I noticed that IMPS would give an identical 44i/2m/11s/13p outcome despite feeding meat before plants. Results vary based on your exact breed composition, so check carefully! [center][b][size=7]2. Feeding Order[/size][/b][/center] Ever wonder how your dragons line up when it's feeding time? This doesn't come up for people with plenty of food points, but you'll definitely notice this if you run low on something. [center][b][size=5]First Rule: Food is distributed by breed.[/size][/b][/center] For example, if you have a pile of seafood (and only seafood) it will first be handed out to ridgebacks. Next, any mirrors. There's a specific order for each food type, so have some lists from first priority to last. [columns][b]INSECTS[/b] [LIST=1] [*]Fae [*]Pearlcatchers [*]Spirals [*]Nocturnes [*]Skydancers [*]Guardians [*]Imperials [/LIST][nextcol] [b]MEAT[/b] [LIST=1] [*]Wildclaws [*]Mirrors [*]Spirals [*]Gaolers [*]Nocturnes [*]Bogsneaks [*]Guardians [*]Imperials [/LIST][nextcol] [b]SEAFOOD[/b] [LIST=1] [*]Ridgebacks [*]Coatls [*]Mirrors [*]Snappers [*]Guardians [*]Imperials [/LIST][nextcol] [b]PLANTS[/b] [LIST=1] [*]Tundras [*]Pearlcatchers [*]Gaolers [*]Snappers [*]Skydancers [*]Bogsneaks [*]Guardians [*]Imperials [/LIST][/columns][i][color=gray](credit to @Lionturtle for finding the updated feeding order)[/color][/i] (Or more generally: pickier eaters tend to eat first) [center][b][size=5]Second Rule: Within a breed, food is distributed from oldest to youngest.[/size][/b][/center] Age is determined by dragon ID#: the lower the number, the older a dragon is. So if you have three snappers and it's their turn to eat, the eldest will eat first, then the middle one, and finally the youngest. [b]Things which DO NOT impact lair feeding order:[/b] [LIST] [*]Lair position [*]How long a dragon has resided in the lair [/LIST]
I've been using @Wobblegong's feeding calculator for ages, so when I heard they were retiring it, I decided why not pick it up myself? I'm no lightning, but I am a super nerd with a spreadsheet obsession, and I had already figured out the sheet in order to update my own personal copy... so what kind of nature would I be if I didn't share?

Wobble had a good explanation of it all in their original spreadsheet, so I'll just paste it and edit what I need to, in the interest of pure unfiltered laziness (you can find the original thread HERE)

(credit to @Wobblegong for putting the original info & spreadsheet together)
1. Feeding Calculator
click HERE for my updated calculator (googledocs)

To use, right-click the Calculator sheet and select:
Duplicate to grab a copy for use right away
Copy To to add a copy to one of your own private documents


Enter information about how many of each breed is living in your lair. The calculator will give you information about how many food points of what types you'd need to feed everyone under various circumstances.

The normal feeding conditions section is most useful for normal gameplay. It tells you:
  • what you need to pony up every time the lair ticks down one energy
  • how much you spend in a 24-hour period keeping everyone fed (3 hunger ticks)
  • how much food you'd need if you left the game and came back to a starving lair of 0-energy dragons (note: since the Bounty of the Elements update, if you leave the site for longer than 45 days, you will come back to 100% full energy)
This is useful for the curious or those trying to figure out what food types they use more of.

The subsistence feeding section is more complicated but useful for people trying to game food preferences to stretch their supplies. You do this by starting at 0/0/0/0 and converting one food type at a time, feeding in between conversions. For example, starting at 0/0/0/0, convert meat items into meat points, Feed the lair until everyone who eats meat is full, then convert seafood, Feed until everyone who eats that is full, etc.

There are four subsections, one for each type of food to use first. Within a subsection are six choices for secondary, tertiary and quaternary foods. The four-letter combo at the top indicates what order you could administer foods in, and the numbers beneath the heading tell you how much you'd need of each type if administered in that order.
Example wrote:
Say my food point stores are low. I input my lair breed totals in the designated space. According to the Normal Feeding Conditions section, for one energy I need:
22 insects / 10 meat / 21 seafood / 17 plants

However, I have lots of Insect foods available, some Plants, little Meat, and almost no Seafood. If everyone eats their favorite foods the picky Seafood-only eaters will go hungry pretty soon! I decide to hand things out more carefully to stretch my meager supplies.

In order from most to least I have Insects, Plants, Meat and Seafood. I check the "I have lots of Insects!" section, then find the IPMS header. The numbers under it tell me that for one energy I need:
44 insects / 2 meat / 11 seafood / 13 plants

So when my lair ticks down one energy, I go to my hoard and convert 44 food points worth of insects. I hit Feed, then go back to my hoard and convert 13 food points worth of plants. Feed, convert 2 meat, Feed, convert 11 seafood, Feed. Voila, everyone's fed, and it mostly used the insects I had plenty of.
Note that duplicate outcomes are possible. When running the above test, I noticed that IMPS would give an identical 44i/2m/11s/13p outcome despite feeding meat before plants. Results vary based on your exact breed composition, so check carefully!


2. Feeding Order
Ever wonder how your dragons line up when it's feeding time? This doesn't come up for people with plenty of food points, but you'll definitely notice this if you run low on something.

First Rule: Food is distributed by breed.

For example, if you have a pile of seafood (and only seafood) it will first be handed out to ridgebacks. Next, any mirrors. There's a specific order for each food type, so have some lists from first priority to last.

INSECTS
  1. Fae
  2. Pearlcatchers
  3. Spirals
  4. Nocturnes
  5. Skydancers
  6. Guardians
  7. Imperials
MEAT
  1. Wildclaws
  2. Mirrors
  3. Spirals
  4. Gaolers
  5. Nocturnes
  6. Bogsneaks
  7. Guardians
  8. Imperials
SEAFOOD
  1. Ridgebacks
  2. Coatls
  3. Mirrors
  4. Snappers
  5. Guardians
  6. Imperials
PLANTS
  1. Tundras
  2. Pearlcatchers
  3. Gaolers
  4. Snappers
  5. Skydancers
  6. Bogsneaks
  7. Guardians
  8. Imperials
(credit to @Lionturtle for finding the updated feeding order)

(Or more generally: pickier eaters tend to eat first)

Second Rule: Within a breed, food is distributed from oldest to youngest.

Age is determined by dragon ID#: the lower the number, the older a dragon is. So if you have three snappers and it's their turn to eat, the eldest will eat first, then the middle one, and finally the youngest.

Things which DO NOT impact lair feeding order:
  • Lair position
  • How long a dragon has resided in the lair
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Pinging @Siscily because they were looking for an updated version for their Lair SS!
Pinging @Siscily because they were looking for an updated version for their Lair SS!
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@SomehowStillSane
Oh you are the best. If you do a pinglist for future updates, can you add me to it so I can update the Lair spreadsheet with it? Thank you so, so much.
@SomehowStillSane
Oh you are the best. If you do a pinglist for future updates, can you add me to it so I can update the Lair spreadsheet with it? Thank you so, so much.
@Siscily No problem! I'm super glad I could help =D
@Siscily No problem! I'm super glad I could help =D
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I'm thrilled to see someone take up the spreadsheetin' mantle (and continue to prove Lightning doesn't have the market cornered). Lovely resource!
I'm thrilled to see someone take up the spreadsheetin' mantle (and continue to prove Lightning doesn't have the market cornered). Lovely resource!
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@SomehowStillSane, thank you very much!
I do love this calc, but I've spoiled mine trying to update it for Gaolers
@SomehowStillSane, thank you very much!
I do love this calc, but I've spoiled mine trying to update it for Gaolers
This calc's amazing! Any chance you'll update this to include Banescales? If so, I'd love a ping!
This calc's amazing! Any chance you'll update this to include Banescales? If so, I'd love a ping!
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yo, i was using this and noticed there were breeds that werent there?
yo, i was using this and noticed there were breeds that werent there?