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May 05, 2014 14:17:47

@Coldblooded Good to know, thanks! That makes it easy, I don't even have to add the numbers to any of the other areas, since you were the only one in that one.

Bump for festival!

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Bump for festival!

@nika Undel just posted this ([url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?p=mb&board=frd&id=1088723&pid=1088723&page=12#4147597]link[/url]): [quote]Festival currency and chests do have a higher drop rate in higher venues.[/quote]

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May 27, 2014 10:03:14

@nika

Undel just posted this (link):

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Festival currency and chests do have a higher drop rate in higher venues.

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@Maki Thank you! Wow, that's going to make things interesting...

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May 27, 2014 10:06:48

@Maki Thank you! Wow, that's going to make things interesting...

@nika - Hm. Luckily I've been keeping track of them separately by venue, then. If it has been true for previous festivals and you were grinding in higher level areas, that could've been a contributing factor to the drop of occurrences that we saw when we were grinding mostly in the Forgotten Cave...

Unfortunately this means that our job is gonna be kind of impossible? One week isn't a lot to collect data without more hands. There's no guarantee that drop rates will stay the same per festival, either, and the sample sizes will be so small that we can't say whether it's due to a change for that festival or just small sample size. And considering their history of "balancing", there's likely not even a noticeable difference between venues, not something that only 1000 data points or even 3000 would tell us :x (Boo.)

[EDIT]: Also, Double-Tailed Warcats seem as if leaves have not been added to their loot tables in the Arena. I may have to throw some of my data away if they manage to fix it, or you may have to act as if Double-Tailed Warcats are not valid token droppers for the first half...

There is a bug report thread and it will hopefully be addressed before the end of the festival.

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May 27, 2014 15:47:07

@nika - Hm. Luckily I've been keeping track of them separately by venue, then. If it has been true for previous festivals and you were grinding in higher level areas, that could've been a contributing factor to the drop of occurrences that we saw when we were grinding mostly in the Forgotten Cave...

Unfortunately this means that our job is gonna be kind of impossible? One week isn't a lot to collect data without more hands. There's no guarantee that drop rates will stay the same per festival, either, and the sample sizes will be so small that we can't say whether it's due to a change for that festival or just small sample size. And considering their history of "balancing", there's likely not even a noticeable difference between venues, not something that only 1000 data points or even 3000 would tell us :x (Boo.)

[EDIT]: Also, Double-Tailed Warcats seem as if leaves have not been added to their loot tables in the Arena. I may have to throw some of my data away if they manage to fix it, or you may have to act as if Double-Tailed Warcats are not valid token droppers for the first half...

There is a bug report thread and it will hopefully be addressed before the end of the festival.

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Last edited on May 27, 2014 16:20:51 by Sylvandyr

@Sylvandyr Yeah, ouch! This is odd - in the Water festival, I had EXTREMELY similar average drop rates in the Cave and Arena (0.354 vs 0.359 for Water enemies and 0.257 vs 0.259 for neutral ones), so it seems like the drop rates differing by area are a new thing? That, or it's a really tiny difference. Hmm, maybe I should ask Undel about it, since she's being communicative lately...

I think it's still worth looking at the Arena and Woodland Path or whatever this holiday's best areas are and comparing them - hopefully the difference should be enough to be detectable between far-away areas even if it's too small to be detected between adjacent areas. Although you're right that the admins' idea of a good upward curve is shallow enough that it may be hard to tell. :/ Well, I'll do some grinding and counting today (in the Woodland Path, I guess, until the Arena bug is fixed - thanks for pinging me in that!).

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May 27, 2014 16:48:30

@Sylvandyr Yeah, ouch! This is odd - in the Water festival, I had EXTREMELY similar average drop rates in the Cave and Arena (0.354 vs 0.359 for Water enemies and 0.257 vs 0.259 for neutral ones), so it seems like the drop rates differing by area are a new thing? That, or it's a really tiny difference. Hmm, maybe I should ask Undel about it, since she's being communicative lately...

I think it's still worth looking at the Arena and Woodland Path or whatever this holiday's best areas are and comparing them - hopefully the difference should be enough to be detectable between far-away areas even if it's too small to be detected between adjacent areas. Although you're right that the admins' idea of a good upward curve is shallow enough that it may be hard to tell. :/ Well, I'll do some grinding and counting today (in the Woodland Path, I guess, until the Arena bug is fixed - thanks for pinging me in that!).

@nika - So, Aequorin posted that the Double-Tailed Warcat should be dropping currency in the Arena now.

I think I'm going to take a snapshot of the current data I have (from when they were broken) and hand that data to you separately, in case I decide to go back to the Arena again with Warcats being fixed.

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May 28, 2014 16:41:12

@nika - So, Aequorin posted that the Double-Tailed Warcat should be dropping currency in the Arena now.

I think I'm going to take a snapshot of the current data I have (from when they were broken) and hand that data to you separately, in case I decide to go back to the Arena again with Warcats being fixed.

@Sylvandyr Sounds good, thanks!

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