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[center]another couple questions to pose[/center] 1) If the deities are truly this big, how impressively massive would things like the observatory and the beacon (light) be? 2) Just how [b]big[/b] is this world compared to anything we humans comprehend 3) If the Arcanist has created so much devastation [b]twice[/b] what are the other deities capable of (not completely related to size but does "< age = < size = < magic capabilities") [b]4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things[/b] [center]and can we also talk about this image? Taken directly from the encyclopedia [img]http://www.flightrising.com/images/wiki/firstage/image_05.jpg[/img][/center]
another couple questions to pose

1) If the deities are truly this big, how impressively massive would things like the observatory and the beacon (light) be?
2) Just how big is this world compared to anything we humans comprehend
3) If the Arcanist has created so much devastation twice what are the other deities capable of (not completely related to size but does "< age = < size = < magic capabilities")
4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things
and can we also talk about this image? Taken directly from the encyclopedia
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alright so i have one thing i got out of this
windsinger is not a regular noodle, he is a spaghetti noodle
alright so i have one thing i got out of this
windsinger is not a regular noodle, he is a spaghetti noodle
So...the Arcanist looks smaller than the Earthshakers head lol
So...the Arcanist looks smaller than the Earthshakers head lol
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[quote name="Azaylium" date=2017-07-22 10:42:59] Is [b]Earthshaker supposed to be bigger than the mountains he creates, though[/b]? If that's the case those are either some small mountains, or we got an even longer Windsinger... [/quote] @Azaylium Earthshaker's hight in that photo: [b]270m[/b] [i]*goggles info and gives you the tops resalts* [/i] Heights of mountains are typically measured above sea level. Using this metric, Mount Everest is the highest mountain on Earth, at [b]8,848 metres[/b] How tall to be a mountain? The Answer: According to our dictionary, a mountain is "a natural elevation of the earth's surface rising more or less abruptly to a summit, and attaining an altitude greater than that of a hill, usually greater than 2000 ft. [b](610 m)."[/b] Even flamecaller can fit in her own volcanos disbite being so large whos off the top of my memory 240m(?) *googles biggest volcano* Mauna Loa Tamu Massif dwarfs the largest active volcano on Earth, Mauna Loa in Hawaii, which measures about 2,000 square miles ([b]5,200 square kilometers[/b]). Made of basalt, Tamu Massif is the oldest and largest feature of an oceanic plateau called the Shatsky Rise in the northwestern Pacific Ocean. You really underestimate how big everything is ALSO according to this book that focued on gravity and life as a question quote [quote= Just Six Numbers]Gravity is the organizing force for the cosmos… [It] is crucial in allowing structure to unfold from a Big Bang that was initially almost featureless. But it is only because it is weak compared with other forces that large and long-lived structures can exist. Paradoxically, the weaker gravity is (provided that it isn’t actually zero), the grander and more complex can be its consequences. [/quote] [quote=Aequorin]The size of Sornieth is larger than Earth (roughly one and a half times the radius). It has slightly less gravity. Whether that's due to its mass and the make-up of its core or the influence of magical fields is still a matter of draconic debate! [/quote] [b]Sornieth does have a lower gravity than earth. There for we can have more "complex" ie LARGER creatures and still be scientifically plausible [/b] However in that same book that i just quoted i ignored this line [quote=Just Six Numbers] We have no theory that tells us the value of N. All we know is that nothing as complex as humankind could have emerged if N were much less than 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. (N 10^36 aka earths gravitational pull)[/quote] HOWEVER HOWEVER if we follow the 2 of the 3 laws of science fiction writing [quote="Clarke's three laws:"] First law: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. Second law: The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.[/quote] Within the relms of sciensfiction and there for looking at all of this through an "realistic" approch the gods being this big can be [b]plausible.[/b]
Azaylium wrote on 2017-07-22:
Is Earthshaker supposed to be bigger than the mountains he creates, though? If that's the case those are either some small mountains, or we got an even longer Windsinger...

@Azaylium
Earthshaker's hight in that photo: 270m


*goggles info and gives you the tops resalts*


Heights of mountains are typically measured above sea level. Using this metric, Mount Everest is the highest mountain on Earth, at 8,848 metres

How tall to be a mountain?
The Answer: According to our dictionary, a mountain is "a natural elevation of the earth's surface rising more or less abruptly to a summit, and attaining an altitude greater than that of a hill, usually greater than 2000 ft. (610 m)."



Even flamecaller can fit in her own volcanos disbite being so large whos off the top of my memory 240m(?)



*googles biggest volcano*


Mauna Loa
Tamu Massif dwarfs the largest active volcano on Earth, Mauna Loa in Hawaii, which measures about 2,000 square miles (5,200 square kilometers). Made of basalt, Tamu Massif is the oldest and largest feature of an oceanic plateau called the Shatsky Rise in the northwestern Pacific Ocean.



You really underestimate how big everything is
ALSO
according to this book that focued on gravity and life as a question quote

Just Six Numbers wrote:
Gravity is the organizing force for the cosmos… [It] is crucial in allowing structure to unfold from a Big Bang that was initially almost featureless. But it is only because it is weak compared with other forces that large and long-lived structures can exist. Paradoxically, the weaker gravity is (provided that it isn’t actually zero), the grander and more complex can be its consequences.

Aequorin wrote:
The size of Sornieth is larger than Earth (roughly one and a half times the radius). It has slightly less gravity. Whether that's due to its mass and the make-up of its core or the influence of magical fields is still a matter of draconic debate!

Sornieth does have a lower gravity than earth. There for we can have more "complex" ie LARGER creatures and still be scientifically plausible

However in that same book that i just quoted i ignored this line
Just Six Numbers wrote:
We have no theory that tells us the value of N. All we know is that nothing as complex as humankind could have emerged if N were much less than 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. (N 10^36 aka earths gravitational pull)

HOWEVER HOWEVER
if we follow the 2 of the 3 laws of science fiction writing
Clarke's three laws: wrote:
First law: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

Second law: The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

Within the relms of sciensfiction and there for looking at all of this through an "realistic" approch the gods being this big can be plausible.
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Everything the deities do now is suddenly much scarier....
Can you imagine Boss Dad screaming "GET BACK TO WORK!!!!" and being that big?????? I'm not sure I would survive.

Also way to rep the lightning flight...go nerds!!! :D
Everything the deities do now is suddenly much scarier....
Can you imagine Boss Dad screaming "GET BACK TO WORK!!!!" and being that big?????? I'm not sure I would survive.

Also way to rep the lightning flight...go nerds!!! :D
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[center][url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=1069550] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/350/10696/1069550_350.png[/img] [/url] My smolest dragon. She has a 0.8 meter wingspan roughly. [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=26899475] [img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/350/268995/26899475_350.png[/img] [/url] My biggest dragon. He's roughly 30 meter's long. I wanted to know how big faes were as compared to Noodledad. So first I did a size comparison of these two: [img]http://i.imgur.com/62ynUxB.png[/img] Ok. You can still KIIIINDA see the fae, right? ...Then I added Windsinger's head; [img]http://i.imgur.com/UelGezl.png[/img] ...It's like...a pixel or two wide in comparison... [img]http://i.imgur.com/2QNH7zl.png[/img] ...I'm scared for my fae, guys. See that tiny speck...that seemingly stray pixel above the imp's head? That's how smol faes are as compared to Noodledad.[/center]

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My smolest dragon. She has a 0.8 meter wingspan roughly.




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My biggest dragon. He's roughly 30 meter's long.

I wanted to know how big faes were as compared to Noodledad.

So first I did a size comparison of these two:


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Ok. You can still KIIIINDA see the fae, right?
...Then I added Windsinger's head;


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...It's like...a pixel or two wide in comparison...


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...I'm scared for my fae, guys.
See that tiny speck...that seemingly stray pixel above the imp's head?
That's how smol faes are as compared to Noodledad.
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This thread has opened my eyes and its awesome!!!
This thread has opened my eyes and its awesome!!!
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I have calc homework to do, and all this math is stressing me out.
I have calc homework to do, and all this math is stressing me out.
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[quote name="WanderSicova" date=2017-07-22 11:13:23] [center]another couple questions to pose[/center] 1) If the deities are truly this big, how impressively massive would things like the observatory and the beacon (light) be? 2) Just how [b]big[/b] is this world compared to anything we humans comprehend 3) If the Arcanist has created so much devastation [b]twice[/b] what are the other deities capable of (not completely related to size but does "< age = < size = < magic capabilities") [b]4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things[/b] [center]and can we also talk about this image? Taken directly from the encyclopedia [img]http://www.flightrising.com/images/wiki/firstage/image_05.jpg[/img][/center] [/quote] @WanderSicova 1) not too bigger [b]4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things[/b] http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CosmicHorrorStory [img]http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/s_Indifference_1706.jpg[/img] in my eyes they where fighting this. 3) If the Arcanist has created so much devastation [b]twice[/b] what are the other deities capable of (not completely related to size but does "< age = < size = < magic capabilities") size / age dose not equal magical power if you read Chapter 3 [quote="Chapter 3: The Third Age"]The Arcanist closed his eyes and focused, meditating deeply within the submersion of the magic emanating from the summit. He felt it shift, glowing, growing, and receding. The drake began to pull at it, each inhale absorbing more and more of the ether. He then opened his eyes. [img]http://www.flightrising.com/images/wiki/thirdage/image4.jpg[/img] It was much clearer now. The distortion that had obscured his observance of the void had all but vanished. He took a few moments to closely examine the darkness, soon discovering that it was shifting in accordance to his own movement. When he lifted an arm, smoky tendrils sprouted from the black cloud and spiraled outward in a beautifully fractal dance. If he arched his back, the blackness echoed and bent. This was communion with the heavens, a gift that he had only dreamed of. From this perch, the Arcanist felt he could command the universe itself. [/quote] Arcanist in both times he caused the end of the world had no direct hand in it his power was never layed out of how trully powerful he is however there are things that he is holding back from us such as knowlage of what bodys are in our galaxy and things like that [u]but the power potenchal of the gods is never trully stated.[/u] arcanist only lifted the forces up. all 8 powers of the gods combinded felt like "he could control everything" so the power of 9 > power of 1 god. however due to him being a coward (theres littaraly no other discription) caused him the abbadon the ward and fly away when it went to strike. view this as what if we tore open a hole in the O zone layer and how our would would be doomed as gama razys from the sun came slashing at our planet. 2) Just how big is this world compared to anything we humans comprehend [img]http://i.imgur.com/9vye4SL.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/UKZxaLt.png[/img] Do you know how big 2m is? I put the size comparison up ther eofr a reason from the start [b]4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things and can we also talk about this image? Taken directly from the encyclopedia [/b] [img]http://i.imgur.com/9vye4SL.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/UKZxaLt.png[/img] [quote]well for starters we can not use any offical artwork of arcanist shown in the Encyclopedia for if we where to do that then this would be cannon, which I highly doubt this is the case. [img]http://i.imgur.com/KKKZAIc.png[/img][/quote] This isn't the only case of sizes inconsistency you know. tho this COULD be evidence of shape shifting powers "maybe" this is just showing their "resting state" for their size. @SilverSkies614 [quote]Everything the deities do now is suddenly much scarier.... Can you imagine Boss Dad screaming "GET BACK TO WORK!!!!" and being that big?????? I'm not sure I would survive. Also way to rep the lightning flight...go nerds!!! :D[/quote] The thunder you hear beyond the canyon is him just shouting orders. I imagen if you where at the basen of it the spire, and since stormcatcher is quote: [quote=the map]A large, central tower [b]scraping the bottom of the stormclouds[/b] that scream and roar overhead. The air is deadly up here, torrents of powerful lightning clapping the metallic framework that holds this feat of technology together. It is from this conductor that the Stormcatcher bellows instructions to his employees below. [/quote] *googles how high up thunderstorms are* Mature thunderstorms often reach 40,000 to 60,000 feet, and it is not unheard of to see thunderstorms reach upward of 75,000 feet You would actualy hear him softly in the background if you where outside near the spire (asuming that there are underground dwellings in the spire which there should be since ridgebacks burrow a lot [s] imagen the city complexes underneath the spire[/s]. And when he yells yells he [b]yells[/b] Godzilla's roars where known to cause people to go deaf https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/27xkdw/godzilla_how_loud_would_godzillas_roar_be_irl/ [quote=that url]As you know, most people who are that close to Godzilla don't tend to live to tell the tale, however I can accurately guess that if you were to stand directly in front of him when he roared, it would blow out your ear drums. A little bit further away it does definitely deafen you for a short period of time and any distance after 50 meters or so it's just very loud. As far as how far it can be heard, there are reports of people distinctly hearing Godzilla's roar 20 miles away. [/quote] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLyiHHEHylw&ab_channel=THECYB3RFOX] visual repersentation of the roar[/url] [quote=size of the linked monsters roar above on the far right][img]http://www.deepseanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/10171768_10152469421444047_7019418286309094905_n4.jpg[/img][/quote] and as stated before. his hight would be around 30m≤A<GP<LS<IW<StC (and in that image he was roughly 150m tall) [img]http://i.imgur.com/XXP2j6w.png[/img] so uhm … yeah short answer Boss is godzilla and if you where to downgrade their hights using that formula ? They'd all have to be roughly the size of godzilla monsters. [size=6]AND WHO SAID LIGHTNING DOSENT HAVE GOOD LORE?! HELL YEA GO LIGHTNING[/size] @PuffFluffN dont use wind size for the fae. it's not fully fanned out. rather use the method i used for figure 3 back in my post and as for the dragon LENGTH ≠ HIGHT [img]http://i.imgur.com/bhMMEPY.jpg[/img] your scale is too big if your imperial is about the size as my arcanist in my scaled image if we are assuming you and I are useing the same windsinger head. you have to mesure the bridge of the snoot of your imperial here's an idea of how to do it yourself [img]http://i.imgur.com/sZy026R.png[/img] But yes he would wear them as a hat.
WanderSicova wrote on 2017-07-22:
another couple questions to pose

1) If the deities are truly this big, how impressively massive would things like the observatory and the beacon (light) be?
2) Just how big is this world compared to anything we humans comprehend
3) If the Arcanist has created so much devastation twice what are the other deities capable of (not completely related to size but does "< age = < size = < magic capabilities")
4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things
and can we also talk about this image? Taken directly from the encyclopedia
image_05.jpg


@WanderSicova
1) not too bigger

4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CosmicHorrorStory
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in my eyes they where fighting this.
3) If the Arcanist has created so much devastation twice what are the other deities capable of (not completely related to size but does "< age = < size = < magic capabilities")

size / age dose not equal magical power

if you read Chapter 3
Chapter 3: The Third Age wrote:
The Arcanist closed his eyes and focused, meditating deeply within the submersion of the magic emanating from the summit. He felt it shift, glowing, growing, and receding. The drake began to pull at it, each inhale absorbing more and more of the ether. He then opened his eyes.


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It was much clearer now. The distortion that had obscured his observance of the void had all but vanished. He took a few moments to closely examine the darkness, soon discovering that it was shifting in accordance to his own movement. When he lifted an arm, smoky tendrils sprouted from the black cloud and spiraled outward in a beautifully fractal dance. If he arched his back, the blackness echoed and bent. This was communion with the heavens, a gift that he had only dreamed of. From this perch, the Arcanist felt he could command the universe itself.

Arcanist in both times he caused the end of the world had no direct hand in it
his power was never layed out of how trully powerful he is

however there are things that he is holding back from us such as knowlage of what bodys are in our galaxy and things like that
but the power potenchal of the gods is never trully stated.

arcanist only lifted the forces up.
all 8 powers of the gods combinded felt like "he could control everything"
so the power of 9 > power of 1 god.

however due to him being a coward (theres littaraly no other discription) caused him the abbadon the ward and fly away when it went to strike.

view this as what if we tore open a hole in the O zone layer and how our would would be doomed as gama razys from the sun came slashing at our planet.




2) Just how big is this world compared to anything we humans comprehend

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Do you know how big 2m is? I put the size comparison up ther eofr a reason from the start



4) How big is the fricken Shade of all things
and can we also talk about this image? Taken directly from the encyclopedia


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Quote:
well for starters we can not use any offical artwork of arcanist shown in the Encyclopedia for if we where to do that then this would be cannon, which I highly doubt this is the case.
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This isn't the only case of sizes inconsistency you know.
tho this COULD be evidence of shape shifting powers "maybe"

this is just showing their "resting state" for their size.



@SilverSkies614

Quote:
Everything the deities do now is suddenly much scarier....
Can you imagine Boss Dad screaming "GET BACK TO WORK!!!!" and being that big?????? I'm not sure I would survive.

Also way to rep the lightning flight...go nerds!!! :D

The thunder you hear beyond the canyon is him just shouting orders.
I imagen if you where at the basen of it the spire, and since stormcatcher is quote:
the map wrote:
A large, central tower scraping the bottom of the stormclouds that scream and roar overhead. The air is deadly up here, torrents of powerful lightning clapping the metallic framework that holds this feat of technology together. It is from this conductor that the Stormcatcher bellows instructions to his employees below.


*googles how high up thunderstorms are*
Mature thunderstorms often reach 40,000 to 60,000 feet, and it is not unheard of to see thunderstorms reach upward of 75,000 feet

You would actualy hear him softly in the background if you where outside near the spire (asuming that there are underground dwellings in the spire which there should be since ridgebacks burrow a lot imagen the city complexes underneath the spire.
And when he yells yells
he yells

Godzilla's roars where known to cause people to go deaf

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/27xkdw/godzilla_how_loud_would_godzillas_roar_be_irl/
that url wrote:
As you know, most people who are that close to Godzilla don't tend to live to tell the tale, however I can accurately guess that if you were to stand directly in front of him when he roared, it would blow out your ear drums. A little bit further away it does definitely deafen you for a short period of time and any distance after 50 meters or so it's just very loud.
As far as how far it can be heard, there are reports of people distinctly hearing Godzilla's roar 20 miles away.

visual repersentation of the roar

size of the linked monsters roar above on the far right wrote:
10171768_10152469421444047_7019418286309094905_n4.jpg

and as stated before. his hight would be around

30m≤A<GP<LS<IW<StC
(and in that image he was roughly 150m tall)

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so uhm

yeah
short answer
Boss is godzilla

and if you where to downgrade their hights using that formula ?

They'd all have to be roughly the size of godzilla monsters.


AND WHO SAID LIGHTNING DOSENT HAVE GOOD LORE?!
HELL YEA GO LIGHTNING


@PuffFluffN
dont use wind size for the fae. it's not fully fanned out. rather use the method i used for figure 3 back in my post

and as for the dragon LENGTH ≠ HIGHT

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your scale is too big if your imperial is about the size as my arcanist in my scaled image if we are assuming you and I are useing the same windsinger head.

you have to mesure the bridge of the snoot of your imperial
here's an idea of how to do it yourself
sZy026R.png

But yes he would wear them as a hat.
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i applaud your math!! that means sornieth is hella, hella, hella big! the forum of the obscured crescent must be huge, the observatory could probably fit a bunch of clans inside of it, etc..
i applaud your math!! that means sornieth is hella, hella, hella big! the forum of the obscured crescent must be huge, the observatory could probably fit a bunch of clans inside of it, etc..
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