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[quote=Hiii] 1. a year ago i was more firm on my stance of pro-d1 elims but lately i've been less certain. i do know the pros and cons of d1 elims, like how it provides a ton of information to dissect and has the very tiny chance of hitting a maf. on the other hand, [b]i don't like voting for someone when there is no real sus on them if that makes sense. i don't like voting for the sake of voting.[/b] [/quote] I find it a little weird you immediately associated d1 elims = people voting for the sake of voting. Not really weird in a scummy way becayse that’ll be a nitpick but. [quote name="DeadlyPlague" date="2024-02-15 07:59:10" ] [quote name="Hiii" date="2024-02-15 07:50:09" ] now off to the standard questionaires: 1. what's your stance on d1 elims? 2. how would you describe your playstyle for town and mafia roles? [/quote] So, this is my 2nd game, and last game I played it was required to do a d1 elim, and we hit a maf. However, pretty sure that was just luck, so I'm gonna say I'm not all for it since you really dont have solid evidence d1. [/quote] Same for you, what kind of “solid evidence” are you looking for exactly? A cop claim? How does an extra dead person make the difference between D1 and D2? Imo death flip analyses never go well, like people either forget the dead’s legacy or it all just ends up with “haha yeah they’re active/maybe a doc dodge haha” More voting, less “should we lunch d1” guys. If everyone votes at least twice in d1 I assure you we’ll catch some sussy by the end of the day
Hiii wrote:
1. a year ago i was more firm on my stance of pro-d1 elims but lately i've been less certain. i do know the pros and cons of d1 elims, like how it provides a ton of information to dissect and has the very tiny chance of hitting a maf. on the other hand, i don't like voting for someone when there is no real sus on them if that makes sense. i don't like voting for the sake of voting.

I find it a little weird you immediately associated d1 elims = people voting for the sake of voting. Not really weird in a scummy way becayse that’ll be a nitpick but.

DeadlyPlague wrote on 2024-02-15 07:59:10:
Hiii wrote on 2024-02-15 07:50:09:
now off to the standard questionaires:

1. what's your stance on d1 elims?
2. how would you describe your playstyle for town and mafia roles?

So, this is my 2nd game, and last game I played it was required to do a d1 elim, and we hit a maf. However, pretty sure that was just luck, so I'm gonna say I'm not all for it since you really dont have solid evidence d1.

Same for you, what kind of “solid evidence” are you looking for exactly? A cop claim? How does an extra dead person make the difference between D1 and D2?
Imo death flip analyses never go well, like people either forget the dead’s legacy or it all just ends up with “haha yeah they’re active/maybe a doc dodge haha”

More voting, less “should we lunch d1” guys. If everyone votes at least twice in d1 I assure you we’ll catch some sussy by the end of the day
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[quote name="Leremis" date="2024-02-15 08:51:42" ] Kneejerk reaction is to dislike this question in the first place because I feel that players aren't going to state their honest mafia playstyle and then stick to it here anyway. But it does get conversation moving at least. [/quote] I like this [quote name="tytration" date="2024-02-15 10:59:20" ] [quote name="@/autumnseas" date="2024-02-15 10:49:55" ] i think [b]i'm most likely to squint at people being inconsistent[/b] or only ever following thread majority opinions rather than saying something of their own. i have no idea how this would change w alignment though LOL i havent played enough games recently for that. i don't think relying on what people say their maf playstyle is for reads would be useful but it is a reasonable question [/quote] hi hi again harvest :D regarding the bolded text, i've seen two people point out they look for inconsistencies now and while i generally agree that it could be squintworthy, i also want to add that i believe inconsistency isn't always a scumtell. townies can be inconsistent in their thinking, too, so in my opinion it's more important at times to try and tie in motives with actions and to also consider whether or not actions line up with words. just my two cents [/quote] Hmmmmm, There’s something about this post but what I wanted to say kinda went out of my head so just hold this for now
Leremis wrote on 2024-02-15 08:51:42:
Kneejerk reaction is to dislike this question in the first place because I feel that players aren't going to state their honest mafia playstyle and then stick to it here anyway. But it does get conversation moving at least.

I like this

tytration wrote on 2024-02-15 10:59:20:
@/autumnseas wrote on 2024-02-15 10:49:55:
i think i'm most likely to squint at people being inconsistent or only ever following thread majority opinions rather than saying something of their own. i have no idea how this would change w alignment though LOL i havent played enough games recently for that. i don't think relying on what people say their maf playstyle is for reads would be useful but it is a reasonable question
hi hi again harvest :D

regarding the bolded text, i've seen two people point out they look for inconsistencies now and while i generally agree that it could be squintworthy, i also want to add that i believe inconsistency isn't always a scumtell. townies can be inconsistent in their thinking, too, so in my opinion it's more important at times to try and tie in motives with actions and to also consider whether or not actions line up with words. just my two cents

Hmmmmm,
There’s something about this post but what I wanted to say kinda went out of my head so just hold this for now
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Hey! I’m Ember. I am 2 hours ahead of FR and go by she/her pronouns. I don't know what my favorite color is on Flight Rising, but my favorite color in general is yellow (although it depends on the shade).

1. what's your stance on d1 elims?

I’m fine with d1 elims as long as I have something to go by.

2. how would you describe your playstyle for town and mafia roles?

I’m not exactly sure what my playstyle is? I will say that I have a hard time getting reads for whatever reason, even after doing multiple ISOs. I try to see if I can poke people, but most of the time people do it before me. I haven't played as maf in a long time, so I don't know about that either.

I tried to have a town-mindset when I was 3p in Secrets of the Airship, though.


As for mod elims, I prefer not to touch them. They usually don't end well from my experience.
Hey! I’m Ember. I am 2 hours ahead of FR and go by she/her pronouns. I don't know what my favorite color is on Flight Rising, but my favorite color in general is yellow (although it depends on the shade).

1. what's your stance on d1 elims?

I’m fine with d1 elims as long as I have something to go by.

2. how would you describe your playstyle for town and mafia roles?

I’m not exactly sure what my playstyle is? I will say that I have a hard time getting reads for whatever reason, even after doing multiple ISOs. I try to see if I can poke people, but most of the time people do it before me. I haven't played as maf in a long time, so I don't know about that either.

I tried to have a town-mindset when I was 3p in Secrets of the Airship, though.


As for mod elims, I prefer not to touch them. They usually don't end well from my experience.
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[quote name="Hiii" date="2024-02-15 11:10:13" ] [quote name="@/B00KW0RM" date="2024-02-15 10:55:10" ] Oh wait what? I do sort of vaguely recall that, but I thought I was making it up. It's been many years lol. So what I'm hearing is eliminating the mod is not really a D1 elim option because literally anything could happen. Which is probably not a good thing. Also, I don't remember the mod saying this game is scum-stacked, but that it leans toward the side of fun over balanced, which to fair is 100% what that could mean. But there is at least 1 3p in play too, so it could also be referring to that. [/quote] hi popping in to say that mod mentioned it in certain discord channels and not in this thread whatsoever. i believe the conversation was centering around mafia’s winrate and mod made a comment alluding to how that might change because of her upcoming game that is maf-sided. so i’m thinking there’s going to be 4 mafia according to a 4 town:1 maf ratio [/quote] Why this specific ratio??? 4:1 is a good golden ratio imo, definitely not scumsided, how did you come up with this? I’m subbed btw
Hiii wrote on 2024-02-15 11:10:13:
@/B00KW0RM wrote on 2024-02-15 10:55:10:
Oh wait what? I do sort of vaguely recall that, but I thought I was making it up. It's been many years lol. So what I'm hearing is eliminating the mod is not really a D1 elim option because literally anything could happen. Which is probably not a good thing. Also, I don't remember the mod saying this game is scum-stacked, but that it leans toward the side of fun over balanced, which to fair is 100% what that could mean. But there is at least 1 3p in play too, so it could also be referring to that.

hi popping in to say that mod mentioned it in certain discord channels and not in this thread whatsoever. i believe the conversation was centering around mafia’s winrate and mod made a comment alluding to how that might change because of her upcoming game that is maf-sided. so i’m thinking there’s going to be 4 mafia according to a 4 town:1 maf ratio

Why this specific ratio??? 4:1 is a good golden ratio imo, definitely not scumsided, how did you come up with this?

I’m subbed btw
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[quote name="@Tanglefire" date="2024-02-15 13:02:25" ] Imo death flip analyses never go well, like people either forget the dead’s legacy or it all just ends up with “haha yeah they’re active/maybe a doc dodge haha” [/quote] could you elaborate on this sentence, please? my brain is having a hard time understanding it for some reason lol
@Tanglefire wrote on 2024-02-15 13:02:25:
Imo death flip analyses never go well, like people either forget the dead’s legacy or it all just ends up with “haha yeah they’re active/maybe a doc dodge haha”
could you elaborate on this sentence, please? my brain is having a hard time understanding it for some reason lol
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[quote name="Tanglefire" date="2024-02-15 13:02:25" ] [quote=Hiii] 1. a year ago i was more firm on my stance of pro-d1 elims but lately i've been less certain. i do know the pros and cons of d1 elims, like how it provides a ton of information to dissect and has the very tiny chance of hitting a maf. on the other hand, [b]i don't like voting for someone when there is no real sus on them if that makes sense. i don't like voting for the sake of voting.[/b] [/quote] I find it a little weird you immediately associated d1 elims = people voting for the sake of voting. Not really weird in a scummy way becayse that’ll be a nitpick but. [/quote] hmm that’s fair! perhaps i worded it badly; i won’t vote to elim d1 unless i have a strong sus. like i said, i don’t like voting for the sake of voting, especially (like others have pointed out) since there are hidden mechanics and ethereal abilities. i think we do have to be more careful in this game, and that d1 elims are pretty risky.
Tanglefire wrote on 2024-02-15 13:02:25:
Hiii wrote:
1. a year ago i was more firm on my stance of pro-d1 elims but lately i've been less certain. i do know the pros and cons of d1 elims, like how it provides a ton of information to dissect and has the very tiny chance of hitting a maf. on the other hand, i don't like voting for someone when there is no real sus on them if that makes sense. i don't like voting for the sake of voting.

I find it a little weird you immediately associated d1 elims = people voting for the sake of voting. Not really weird in a scummy way becayse that’ll be a nitpick but.

hmm that’s fair! perhaps i worded it badly; i won’t vote to elim d1 unless i have a strong sus. like i said, i don’t like voting for the sake of voting, especially (like others have pointed out) since there are hidden mechanics and ethereal abilities. i think we do have to be more careful in this game, and that d1 elims are pretty risky.
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Just to address the icebreaker questions I guess:

1) Ngl, the fact that death flips can be inaccurate and stuff makes me a lil more wary of d1 elims. Cause whether or not the flip turns out to be accurate, ppl can always use the uncertainty as an excuse to muddle whatever info we get out of it. That being said tho, I would encourage ppl to at least speculate on who they'd vote for if they had to (once everyone has had a chance to speak up of course) because I feel like following those trains of thoughts will be more useful than whatever info we get out of the death result.

2) I don't know that I rlly have a playstyle necessarily. But I do have a tendency to overexplain myself in a way that apparently comes of as sus lol. I swear I've had fingers pointed at me in every game I play, no matter which side I'm on. So just to try and get ahead of it: if I weigh the pros and cons of a decision throughout a post then settle on one at the end, that's not me hedging my bets or anything. I just like to show my thought process.
Just to address the icebreaker questions I guess:

1) Ngl, the fact that death flips can be inaccurate and stuff makes me a lil more wary of d1 elims. Cause whether or not the flip turns out to be accurate, ppl can always use the uncertainty as an excuse to muddle whatever info we get out of it. That being said tho, I would encourage ppl to at least speculate on who they'd vote for if they had to (once everyone has had a chance to speak up of course) because I feel like following those trains of thoughts will be more useful than whatever info we get out of the death result.

2) I don't know that I rlly have a playstyle necessarily. But I do have a tendency to overexplain myself in a way that apparently comes of as sus lol. I swear I've had fingers pointed at me in every game I play, no matter which side I'm on. So just to try and get ahead of it: if I weigh the pros and cons of a decision throughout a post then settle on one at the end, that's not me hedging my bets or anything. I just like to show my thought process.
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[quote name="Tanglefire" date="2024-02-15 13:15:37" ] [quote name="Hiii" date="2024-02-15 11:10:13" ] [quote name="@/B00KW0RM" date="2024-02-15 10:55:10" ] Oh wait what? I do sort of vaguely recall that, but I thought I was making it up. It's been many years lol. So what I'm hearing is eliminating the mod is not really a D1 elim option because literally anything could happen. Which is probably not a good thing. Also, I don't remember the mod saying this game is scum-stacked, but that it leans toward the side of fun over balanced, which to fair is 100% what that could mean. But there is at least 1 3p in play too, so it could also be referring to that. [/quote] hi popping in to say that mod mentioned it in certain discord channels and not in this thread whatsoever. i believe the conversation was centering around mafia’s winrate and mod made a comment alluding to how that might change because of her upcoming game that is maf-sided. so i’m thinking there’s going to be 4 mafia according to a 4 town:1 maf ratio [/quote] Why this specific ratio??? 4:1 is a good golden ratio imo, definitely not scumsided, how did you come up with this? I’m subbed btw [/quote] i mean the ratio could definitely turn out to be 1:3 (somewhat plausible) or 1:5 (unlikely) but 1:4 just seemed to make the most sense to me. 4 or 5 mafia seems like a good amount in a 16 person (excluding mod) game. i think the game may be scumsided in terms of abilities rather than pure numbers of mafia.
Tanglefire wrote on 2024-02-15 13:15:37:
Hiii wrote on 2024-02-15 11:10:13:
@/B00KW0RM wrote on 2024-02-15 10:55:10:
Oh wait what? I do sort of vaguely recall that, but I thought I was making it up. It's been many years lol. So what I'm hearing is eliminating the mod is not really a D1 elim option because literally anything could happen. Which is probably not a good thing. Also, I don't remember the mod saying this game is scum-stacked, but that it leans toward the side of fun over balanced, which to fair is 100% what that could mean. But there is at least 1 3p in play too, so it could also be referring to that.

hi popping in to say that mod mentioned it in certain discord channels and not in this thread whatsoever. i believe the conversation was centering around mafia’s winrate and mod made a comment alluding to how that might change because of her upcoming game that is maf-sided. so i’m thinking there’s going to be 4 mafia according to a 4 town:1 maf ratio

Why this specific ratio??? 4:1 is a good golden ratio imo, definitely not scumsided, how did you come up with this?

I’m subbed btw

i mean the ratio could definitely turn out to be 1:3 (somewhat plausible) or 1:5 (unlikely) but 1:4 just seemed to make the most sense to me. 4 or 5 mafia seems like a good amount in a 16 person (excluding mod) game. i think the game may be scumsided in terms of abilities rather than pure numbers of mafia.
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[quote name="@Hiii" date="2024-02-15 13:40:05" ] i mean the ratio could definitely turn out to be 1:3 (somewhat plausible) or 1:5 (unlikely) but 1:4 just seemed to make the most sense to me. 4 or 5 mafia seems like a good amount in a 16 person (excluding mod) game. i think the game may be scumsided in terms of abilities rather than pure numbers of mafia. [/quote] Personally, I'd agree on the "terms of abilities" point, especially because of the theme of the game. the mafia are viruses right? Viruses [b]spread[/b] [s]well depends on the type of virus ig, im working purely on my knowledge of the sHEER AMOUNT OF TIMES they get hacked in NCIS[/s] Should probably make it clear, I have nothing that hints me towards like, knowing for sure there is a cult, this is just one of my conspiracy theories hahsdjkfhs
@Hiii wrote on 2024-02-15 13:40:05:

i mean the ratio could definitely turn out to be 1:3 (somewhat plausible) or 1:5 (unlikely) but 1:4 just seemed to make the most sense to me. 4 or 5 mafia seems like a good amount in a 16 person (excluding mod) game. i think the game may be scumsided in terms of abilities rather than pure numbers of mafia.

Personally, I'd agree on the "terms of abilities" point, especially because of the theme of the game.
the mafia are viruses right?

Viruses spread

well depends on the type of virus ig, im working purely on my knowledge of the sHEER AMOUNT OF TIMES they get hacked in NCIS

Should probably make it clear, I have nothing that hints me towards like, knowing for sure there is a cult, this is just one of my conspiracy theories hahsdjkfhs
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[quote name="Tanglefire" date="2024-02-15 13:02:25" ] [quote=Hiii] 1. a year ago i was more firm on my stance of pro-d1 elims but lately i've been less certain. i do know the pros and cons of d1 elims, like how it provides a ton of information to dissect and has the very tiny chance of hitting a maf. on the other hand, [b]i don't like voting for someone when there is no real sus on them if that makes sense. i don't like voting for the sake of voting.[/b] [/quote] I find it a little weird you immediately associated d1 elims = people voting for the sake of voting. Not really weird in a scummy way becayse that’ll be a nitpick but. [quote name="DeadlyPlague" date="2024-02-15 07:59:10" ] [quote name="Hiii" date="2024-02-15 07:50:09" ] now off to the standard questionaires: 1. what's your stance on d1 elims? 2. how would you describe your playstyle for town and mafia roles? [/quote] So, this is my 2nd game, and last game I played it was required to do a d1 elim, and we hit a maf. However, pretty sure that was just luck, so I'm gonna say I'm not all for it since you really dont have solid evidence d1. [/quote] Same for you, what kind of “solid evidence” are you looking for exactly? A cop claim? How does an extra dead person make the difference between D1 and D2? Imo death flip analyses never go well, like people either forget the dead’s legacy or it all just ends up with “haha yeah they’re active/maybe a doc dodge haha” More voting, less “should we lunch d1” guys. If everyone votes at least twice in d1 I assure you we’ll catch some sussy by the end of the day [/quote] If anyone claims d1 i will personally smack you upside the head so hard you gain amnesia
Tanglefire wrote on 2024-02-15 13:02:25:
Hiii wrote:
1. a year ago i was more firm on my stance of pro-d1 elims but lately i've been less certain. i do know the pros and cons of d1 elims, like how it provides a ton of information to dissect and has the very tiny chance of hitting a maf. on the other hand, i don't like voting for someone when there is no real sus on them if that makes sense. i don't like voting for the sake of voting.

I find it a little weird you immediately associated d1 elims = people voting for the sake of voting. Not really weird in a scummy way becayse that’ll be a nitpick but.

DeadlyPlague wrote on 2024-02-15 07:59:10:
Hiii wrote on 2024-02-15 07:50:09:
now off to the standard questionaires:

1. what's your stance on d1 elims?
2. how would you describe your playstyle for town and mafia roles?

So, this is my 2nd game, and last game I played it was required to do a d1 elim, and we hit a maf. However, pretty sure that was just luck, so I'm gonna say I'm not all for it since you really dont have solid evidence d1.

Same for you, what kind of “solid evidence” are you looking for exactly? A cop claim? How does an extra dead person make the difference between D1 and D2?
Imo death flip analyses never go well, like people either forget the dead’s legacy or it all just ends up with “haha yeah they’re active/maybe a doc dodge haha”

More voting, less “should we lunch d1” guys. If everyone votes at least twice in d1 I assure you we’ll catch some sussy by the end of the day


If anyone claims d1 i will personally smack you upside the head so hard you gain amnesia
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