I know the title sounds a little rude but it's basically on the tin. Ancients were made to break the rules and everything! We were told that they were a way to break the mold of 4 legs, two wings, one tail, and one head mold. Aberrations felt like a great example of what could be done! Undertides too! But every other mold-breaking breed has just kind been missing two legs or has two more barely noticeable legs.
It would be great if staff would play around with a bit more variety! Something with a lot of wings, something without wings, something with idk a gazillion legs. It feels like they're playing it a bit too safe with ancients
I know the title sounds a little rude but it's basically on the tin. Ancients were made to break the rules and everything! We were told that they were a way to break the mold of 4 legs, two wings, one tail, and one head mold. Aberrations felt like a great example of what could be done! Undertides too! But every other mold-breaking breed has just kind been missing two legs or has two more barely noticeable legs.
It would be great if staff would play around with a bit more variety! Something with a lot of wings, something without wings, something with idk a gazillion legs. It feels like they're playing it a bit too safe with ancients
Frankly.
I never want to see another Ancient dragon that follows the Modern dragon rules.
I am extremely disappointed every time I do. Why would you follow the rules for baking bread when you're actually making a casserole? It would make for a pretty crummy casserole.
Frankly.
I never want to see another Ancient dragon that follows the Modern dragon rules.
I am extremely disappointed every time I do. Why would you follow the rules for baking bread when you're actually making a casserole? It would make for a pretty crummy casserole.
I posted this in another thread, but like yeah. Please. I don't see the point in Ancients if its just a Modern that cannot wear clothes, I don't want that over and over and over again.
It doesn't need wings for a secondary, look I ever made a quick visual aid for other distinct places you could put it. Maybe it couldn't use every gene, but Ancients literally don't use every gene already. They can modified slightly to fit since it's a unique breed with a unique feature.
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I posted this in another thread, but like yeah. Please. I don't see the point in Ancients if its just a Modern that cannot wear clothes, I don't want that over and over and over again.
It doesn't need wings for a secondary, look I ever made a quick visual aid for other distinct places you could put it. Maybe it couldn't use every gene, but Ancients literally don't use every gene already. They can modified slightly to fit since it's a unique breed with a unique feature.
i agree with this overall sentiment but the idea that ancients were [b]made[/b] to solely be unique designs rubs me the wrong way. staff's stated main goal with ancients at the time of release was to have breeds that were quicker to create because they didn't need to deal with the backlog:
[quote]We are intentionally developing ancient breeds to accommodate the need for new dragons in the game while still allowing us the ability to continue to release features, content, and modern breeds. Ancient breeds do not contribute to the backlog because, well, they don’t touch it!
[b]Our main goal with ancient breeds is to release them more regularly[/b] than we do modern breeds. In order to facilitate that, they’ll need to operate a little bit differently...
[/quote]
(emphasis mine)
meanwhile while talking about the apparel and linebreaking:
[quote]Ancient breeds can’t wear apparel. We know this is going to be a bit of a disappointment for some players. But no apparel also means [b]we can[/b] now do some really wild and cool tertiary gene designs that break the dragon silhouette the lines of designs like horns, extra tails, chitin, etc.
Since they don’t need to wear apparel, ancient breeds also [b]allow[/b] us to break the “One head, four legs, two wings, one tail” template. For example, dragons like wyverns, multiple-headed dragons, drakes, and more!
[/quote]
(emphasis mine)
language is much more focused on the possibility, not the guarantee. which i am definitely sad about because i like the idea of really wacky dragons, especially wingless ones :P
my ideal would be creative placements of the secondaries - maybe have it be small accents down the entire dragon's body rather than a solid single area, or like plating down the dragon's back so it's more subtle/smaller rather than snurge's huge fins that resemble wings heavily
i just think that somewhere along the way the original intentions got a bit forgotten by the playerbase
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i agree with this overall sentiment but the idea that ancients were
made to solely be unique designs rubs me the wrong way. staff's stated main goal with ancients at the time of release was to have breeds that were quicker to create because they didn't need to deal with the backlog:
Quote:
We are intentionally developing ancient breeds to accommodate the need for new dragons in the game while still allowing us the ability to continue to release features, content, and modern breeds. Ancient breeds do not contribute to the backlog because, well, they don’t touch it!
Our main goal with ancient breeds is to release them more regularly than we do modern breeds. In order to facilitate that, they’ll need to operate a little bit differently...
(emphasis mine)
meanwhile while talking about the apparel and linebreaking:
Quote:
Ancient breeds can’t wear apparel. We know this is going to be a bit of a disappointment for some players. But no apparel also means we can now do some really wild and cool tertiary gene designs that break the dragon silhouette the lines of designs like horns, extra tails, chitin, etc.
Since they don’t need to wear apparel, ancient breeds also allow us to break the “One head, four legs, two wings, one tail” template. For example, dragons like wyverns, multiple-headed dragons, drakes, and more!
(emphasis mine)
language is much more focused on the possibility, not the guarantee. which i am definitely sad about because i like the idea of really wacky dragons, especially wingless ones :P
my ideal would be creative placements of the secondaries - maybe have it be small accents down the entire dragon's body rather than a solid single area, or like plating down the dragon's back so it's more subtle/smaller rather than snurge's huge fins that resemble wings heavily
i just think that somewhere along the way the original intentions got a bit forgotten by the playerbase
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source)
[quote name="Recallback" date="2024-04-17 14:48:31" ]
Please. I don't see the point in Ancients if its just a Modern that cannot wear clothes, I don't want that over and over and over again.
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I tend to avoid the ancients due to lack of clothing, I'd love to see them break the mold further so the lack of clothes feels more worth it if that makes sense
Recallback wrote on 2024-04-17 14:48:31:
Please. I don't see the point in Ancients if its just a Modern that cannot wear clothes, I don't want that over and over and over again.
I tend to avoid the ancients due to lack of clothing, I'd love to see them break the mold further so the lack of clothes feels more worth it if that makes sense
[quote name="KoloKitten" date="2024-04-17 14:53:18" ]
i agree with this overall sentiment but the idea that ancients were [b]made[/b] to solely be unique designs rubs me the wrong way. staff's stated main goal with ancients at the time of release was to have breeds that were quicker to create because they didn't need to deal with the backlog:
[quote]We are intentionally developing ancient breeds to accommodate the need for new dragons in the game while still allowing us the ability to continue to release features, content, and modern breeds. Ancient breeds do not contribute to the backlog because, well, they don’t touch it!
[b]Our main goal with ancient breeds is to release them more regularly[/b] than we do modern breeds. In order to facilitate that, they’ll need to operate a little bit differently...
[/quote]
(emphasis mine)
meanwhile while talking about the apparel and linebreaking:
[quote]Ancient breeds can’t wear apparel. We know this is going to be a bit of a disappointment for some players. But no apparel also means [b]we can[/b] now do some really wild and cool tertiary gene designs that break the dragon silhouette the lines of designs like horns, extra tails, chitin, etc.
Since they don’t need to wear apparel, ancient breeds also [b]allow[/b] us to break the “One head, four legs, two wings, one tail” template. For example, dragons like wyverns, multiple-headed dragons, drakes, and more!
[/quote]
(emphasis mine)
language is much more focused on the possibility, not the guarantee. which i am definitely sad about because i like the idea of really wacky dragons, especially wingless ones :P
my ideal would be creative placements of the secondaries - maybe have it be small accents down the entire dragon's body rather than a solid single area, or like plating down the dragon's back so it's more subtle/smaller rather than snurge's huge fins that resemble wings heavily
i just think that somewhere along the way the original intentions got a bit forgotten by the playerbase
([url=https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/ann/2666061]source[/url])
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Yeah, agree with this. More uniqueness is always good! But I dislike the attitude a lot of the playerbase seems to have about it
KoloKitten wrote on 2024-04-17 14:53:18:
i agree with this overall sentiment but the idea that ancients were
made to solely be unique designs rubs me the wrong way. staff's stated main goal with ancients at the time of release was to have breeds that were quicker to create because they didn't need to deal with the backlog:
Quote:
We are intentionally developing ancient breeds to accommodate the need for new dragons in the game while still allowing us the ability to continue to release features, content, and modern breeds. Ancient breeds do not contribute to the backlog because, well, they don’t touch it!
Our main goal with ancient breeds is to release them more regularly than we do modern breeds. In order to facilitate that, they’ll need to operate a little bit differently...
(emphasis mine)
meanwhile while talking about the apparel and linebreaking:
Quote:
Ancient breeds can’t wear apparel. We know this is going to be a bit of a disappointment for some players. But no apparel also means we can now do some really wild and cool tertiary gene designs that break the dragon silhouette the lines of designs like horns, extra tails, chitin, etc.
Since they don’t need to wear apparel, ancient breeds also allow us to break the “One head, four legs, two wings, one tail” template. For example, dragons like wyverns, multiple-headed dragons, drakes, and more!
(emphasis mine)
language is much more focused on the possibility, not the guarantee. which i am definitely sad about because i like the idea of really wacky dragons, especially wingless ones :P
my ideal would be creative placements of the secondaries - maybe have it be small accents down the entire dragon's body rather than a solid single area, or like plating down the dragon's back so it's more subtle/smaller rather than snurge's huge fins that resemble wings heavily
i just think that somewhere along the way the original intentions got a bit forgotten by the playerbase
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source)
Yeah, agree with this. More uniqueness is always good! But I dislike the attitude a lot of the playerbase seems to have about it
Support, I'm a bit let down by the new breed's anatomy. I was really hoping we'd get more of a wingless ancient this time, like maybe a carapace as a secondary, but they just look like they could be a modern breed - I feel like Obelisks are a much more interesting Earth breed.
I also think we could have a little more body variety in Ancients. For Dusthides I would have loved to see another bulky dragon, but their tails take up a lot of the room that could've been used for that.
Support, I'm a bit let down by the new breed's anatomy. I was really hoping we'd get more of a wingless ancient this time, like maybe a carapace as a secondary, but they just look like they could be a modern breed - I feel like Obelisks are a much more interesting Earth breed.
I also think we could have a little more body variety in Ancients. For Dusthides I would have loved to see another bulky dragon, but their tails take up a lot of the room that could've been used for that.
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Support, what bums me out is that there's a whole bunch of different types of dragon variarions in mythos but almost all our ancients so far aren't capitalizing on that and its a bummer
Support, what bums me out is that there's a whole bunch of different types of dragon variarions in mythos but almost all our ancients so far aren't capitalizing on that and its a bummer
Support, I feel this way with the earth ancient, I thought it would be wingless (because, ya know, earth and all), yet it is just another four-legged, two-winged dragon.
Support, I feel this way with the earth ancient, I thought it would be wingless (because, ya know, earth and all), yet it is just another four-legged, two-winged dragon.
[quote name="KoloKitten" date="2024-04-17 14:53:18" ]
i just think that somewhere along the way the original intentions got a bit forgotten by the playerbase.
[/quote]
For me, it's always been that the intentions are wrong. Before Ancients were announced, it was a regular suggestion that dragons have more irregular body features. I think [i]should not[/i] be making dragons that could be Moderns as Ancients because there is very little draw to Ancients besides.
Sure, you have your individuals who don't like apparel, but on the whole people seem to like to dress their dragons with at least one piece.
But since they have made the "Modern Rule" explicit to us as users (especially from a time when they were very rarely explicit about anything), we have been limited to that for dragons we have much more customization options for it. It's a trade off. To think that users would be happily accepting of the same Rule for a dragon that doesn't have that trade off is evidently mistaken.
So. Yeah. If they intend to continue with these designs for Ancients, I think the intention is seriously flawed.
KoloKitten wrote on 2024-04-17 14:53:18:
i just think that somewhere along the way the original intentions got a bit forgotten by the playerbase.
For me, it's always been that the intentions are wrong. Before Ancients were announced, it was a regular suggestion that dragons have more irregular body features. I think
should not be making dragons that could be Moderns as Ancients because there is very little draw to Ancients besides.
Sure, you have your individuals who don't like apparel, but on the whole people seem to like to dress their dragons with at least one piece.
But since they have made the "Modern Rule" explicit to us as users (especially from a time when they were very rarely explicit about anything), we have been limited to that for dragons we have much more customization options for it. It's a trade off. To think that users would be happily accepting of the same Rule for a dragon that doesn't have that trade off is evidently mistaken.
So. Yeah. If they intend to continue with these designs for Ancients, I think the intention is seriously flawed.
