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@winterbright If you're looking for a resource just to see which breeds and genes are rarer than others, I often just use the fandom wiki.

It has basically everything on genes - their price, rarity, and chance of inheritance when paired against other genes.

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@winterbright If you're looking for a resource just to see which breeds and genes are rarer than others, I often just use the fandom wiki.

It has basically everything on genes - their price, rarity, and chance of inheritance when paired against other genes.

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@Dr3m1ly Yes I was mostly just looking for somewhere that had everything up to date and included odds of inheritance in the same place. I can work with that <3 Didn't realize the FR fandom wiki had odds charts, the more you know! [emoji=pastel rainbow size=1][emoji=gold star size=1] Thank you!

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@Dr3m1ly Yes I was mostly just looking for somewhere that had everything up to date and included odds of inheritance in the same place. I can work with that <3 Didn't realize the FR fandom wiki had odds charts, the more you know!

Thank you!

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@Ambrite @BarbaraFett @Dr3m1ly @Ganondorf @jnlhui @KaitoWang @KineticKimo @Orianel @PixelEnchanter @Saturnpunk @SongofSummer Hello, I wuold really apreciate some help breeding this morfology: [morphology=4972107] For this purpose I have three dragons. [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/100473835][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/1004739/100473835_350.png[/img][/url] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/99286532][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/992866/99286532_350.png[/img][/url] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/100599302][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/1005994/100599302_350.png[/img][/url] I am struguling getting the tertiary gene and coulour right, I know that the gene firefly can be traded via swips swap stan but my dragons aren't high enough level to aqiure inky babys neede for the trade. I don'care much about the eye coulor.

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@Ambrite @BarbaraFett @Dr3m1ly @Ganondorf @jnlhui @KaitoWang @KineticKimo @Orianel @PixelEnchanter @Saturnpunk @SongofSummer
Hello, I wuold really apreciate some help breeding this morfology:

Image of a dragon: Adult Male Skydancer dragon with White Chorus primary, White Choir secondary, and Plum Firefly tertiary genes. The dragon has Bright Shadow element eyes.

#4972107

For this purpose I have three dragons.

I am struguling getting the tertiary gene and coulour right, I know that the gene firefly can be traded via swips swap stan but my dragons aren't high enough level to aqiure inky babys neede for the trade. I don'care much about the eye coulor.

Last edited on Jan 22, 2025 11:03:54 by 500armedbirds

Hello @500armedbirds, have you received help yet? If you haven't perhaps I could offer a strategy. Looking at your goal I would say that the genes are the biggest issue. White XXYs are very abundant, if you manage to isolate your genes and then only breed with dragons with rare genes then you'll only need to be concerned with tertiary color (rare genes and breed pass down very rarely against non-rare genes and breed). I had a look at your dragons and what was available on the AH at the time of writing. If I was to do your dragon I would probably first grab these from the AH: [url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=100281808][img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/1002819/100281808.png[/img][/url][url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=98893980][img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/988940/98893980.png[/img][/url][url=http://flightrising.com/main.php?dragon=100693217][img]http://flightrising.com/rendern/avatars/1006933/100693217.png[/img][/url] Their information in text list: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/100281808]#100281808[/url] (M Sky) 0/0/-23 Starmap/Constellation/[b]Firefly[/b] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/98893980]#98893980[/url] (F Imp) 0/0/9 Iridescent/Shimmer/Opal [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/100693217]#100693217[/url] (M Wil) 0/0/-3 Iridescent/Shimmer/Stained *Positive number means that the color is down from the goal in the color list and vice versa. Your spiral female, btw, looks like this: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/100599302]#100599302[/url] (F Spi) 0/5/10 [b]Chorus[/b]/[b]Choir[/b]/Glowtail On one side I would pair you Spiral female to the Skydancer and look for Skydancer offspring with Chorus, Choir and Firefly. I would be hoping for XXY Skydancers with any tertiary color, but that might be too much to ask for (1/24 probability). If you don't get an XXY, but a Skydancer with all the genes, you can breed it to a White XXY with rare genes and limited/rare breed. You want to get a pair with XXY Skydancer and all the goal genes going. At the same time I would breed the 0/0/9 Imperial and 0/0/-3 Wildclaw together. Their offspring could then be matched to those XXY Skydancers with all the genes to aim for the right colors. FYI these four dragons are all unrelated. If/when you decide to get more dragons, remember to assay them! Here are some AH links that might be useful to you: [LIST] [*][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/auction-house/buy/realm/dragons?treasure_max=30000&gems_max=30&d_breed_type=0&d_breed=13%2C8%2C10%2C11%2C12&d_body_range=3-163&d_wings_range=3-163&d_bodygene=1%2C7%2C13%2C17%2C20%2C24%2C87%2C170%2C318&d_winggene=1%2C8%2C13%2C17%2C20%2C25%2C87%2C170%2C318&d_tertgene=22&collapse=1]White ±2, any color Firefly, Skydancer and rarer breeds[/url] [*][url=https://www1.flightrising.com/auction-house/buy/realm/dragons?treasure_max=30000&gems_max=30&d_breed_type=0&d_breed=13%2C8%2C10%2C11%2C12&d_body_range=2-2&d_wings_range=2-2&d_tert_range=7-175&d_bodygene=1%2C7%2C13%2C17%2C20%2C24%2C87%2C170%2C318%2C337&d_winggene=1%2C8%2C13%2C17%2C20%2C25%2C87%2C170%2C318%2C337&d_tertgene=22%2C1%2C10%2C12%2C17%2C21%2C54%2C73%2C105%2C213%2C421&collapse=1]White XXY plum ±10, all rare genes, Skydancer and rarer breeds[/url] [/LIST] I hope this was helpful to you. Feel free to ask if you have questions!

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Hello @500armedbirds, have you received help yet? If you haven't perhaps I could offer a strategy.

Looking at your goal I would say that the genes are the biggest issue. White XXYs are very abundant, if you manage to isolate your genes and then only breed with dragons with rare genes then you'll only need to be concerned with tertiary color (rare genes and breed pass down very rarely against non-rare genes and breed).

I had a look at your dragons and what was available on the AH at the time of writing. If I was to do your dragon I would probably first grab these from the AH:

Their information in text list:
#100281808 (M Sky) 0/0/-23 Starmap/Constellation/Firefly
#98893980 (F Imp) 0/0/9 Iridescent/Shimmer/Opal
#100693217 (M Wil) 0/0/-3 Iridescent/Shimmer/Stained
*Positive number means that the color is down from the goal in the color list and vice versa.

Your spiral female, btw, looks like this:
#100599302 (F Spi) 0/5/10 Chorus/Choir/Glowtail

On one side I would pair you Spiral female to the Skydancer and look for Skydancer offspring with Chorus, Choir and Firefly. I would be hoping for XXY Skydancers with any tertiary color, but that might be too much to ask for (1/24 probability). If you don't get an XXY, but a Skydancer with all the genes, you can breed it to a White XXY with rare genes and limited/rare breed. You want to get a pair with XXY Skydancer and all the goal genes going.

At the same time I would breed the 0/0/9 Imperial and 0/0/-3 Wildclaw together. Their offspring could then be matched to those XXY Skydancers with all the genes to aim for the right colors.

FYI these four dragons are all unrelated. If/when you decide to get more dragons, remember to assay them!

Here are some AH links that might be useful to you:

I hope this was helpful to you. Feel free to ask if you have questions!

Thank you so much for suggesting these guys, I would not have noticed them. Unfortunately I can only afford the skydancer in gems. I maybe wrong but I think the Smirch gives 50/50 with firerfly, so I plan on changing the gembond gene on Skydancer F.

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January 28, 2025 10:23:54

Thank you so much for suggesting these guys, I would not have noticed them. Unfortunately I can only afford the skydancer in gems. I maybe wrong but I think the Smirch gives 50/50 with firerfly, so I plan on changing the gembond gene on Skydancer F.

@500armedbirds You're welcome!

Smirch does indeed give 50/50 against Firefly, as does any other tertiary gene you can get from the Coliseum, Baldwin and Achievements. Arguably you can also breed it against Gembond and it will come through 15% of the time, it is simply a question of what kind of odds you're willing to work with.

The only caveat I see with using your female Skydancer with White Gembond is that she sits on the same side of Amethyst as the Firefly Skydancer, leaving only your Spiral to pull the tertiary color to the other side. This would require for your pairing with the Spiral to hatch dragons on the purple side of Amethyst to be able to breed for Amethyst. Though you will always be able to acquire purple range dragons to help out if the need arises later on.

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@500armedbirds You're welcome!

Smirch does indeed give 50/50 against Firefly, as does any other tertiary gene you can get from the Coliseum, Baldwin and Achievements. Arguably you can also breed it against Gembond and it will come through 15% of the time, it is simply a question of what kind of odds you're willing to work with.

The only caveat I see with using your female Skydancer with White Gembond is that she sits on the same side of Amethyst as the Firefly Skydancer, leaving only your Spiral to pull the tertiary color to the other side. This would require for your pairing with the Spiral to hatch dragons on the purple side of Amethyst to be able to breed for Amethyst. Though you will always be able to acquire purple range dragons to help out if the need arises later on.

So when I went to the scrying workshop instead of the random ugliness it usually shows it instead showed me this gorgeous guy:

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I've never bred for a specific dragon before, I usually buy gen 1s to gene instead. But unfortunately his color combo seems to be super rare, with only four dragons on site having it.

I looked for dragons with colors two off in either direction to breed together, but only one showed up and was 800 gems! So it looks like I might have to go farther out and get 4+ dragons as grandparents? Any advice is appreciated!

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So when I went to the scrying workshop instead of the random ugliness it usually shows it instead showed me this gorgeous guy:

Not Found

I've never bred for a specific dragon before, I usually buy gen 1s to gene instead. But unfortunately his color combo seems to be super rare, with only four dragons on site having it.

I looked for dragons with colors two off in either direction to breed together, but only one showed up and was 800 gems! So it looks like I might have to go farther out and get 4+ dragons as grandparents? Any advice is appreciated!

Last edited on Feb 02, 2025 19:14:00 by SlightlyWinged

@SlightlyWinged

The question is, are you willing to spend the gems to buy glimmer? Because if you are, then you should easily be able to make two grandparent pairs (here's a dragon search I set up). Just make sure that for each pair you have colours on either side of your goal. So for the primary for example you would want one grandparent to be between metals and peach and the other to be between peach and carrot.

If you'd rather breed glimmer in, things get a bit more tricky, but still certainly do-able. There are few enough dragons with close colours and with glimmer that I would probably start with great-grandparents. You can widen your search to ten colours off, but again make sure each pair includes the goal in their range. This is a nice simple tool to help you double check if you're not sure. This time though, you'll also need to make sure that each pair has glimmer and that any that do not have glimmer have a rare tertiary gene. Those are circuit, eclipse, filigree, glowtail, koi, opal, soap, stained, and wish. You will want to prioritize hatchlings that inherit glimmer when you are pairing up the next generation.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about breeding in nocturne, chorus, or myrad. The first and last are cheap to obtain, and the primary is a fairly new treasure gene, so it is likely to be difficult to come by.

Also, when making your pairs, make sure that all of your breeding stock are modern breeds, or they won't be compatible!

Let us know if you have any other questions!

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@SlightlyWinged

The question is, are you willing to spend the gems to buy glimmer? Because if you are, then you should easily be able to make two grandparent pairs (here's a dragon search I set up). Just make sure that for each pair you have colours on either side of your goal. So for the primary for example you would want one grandparent to be between metals and peach and the other to be between peach and carrot.

If you'd rather breed glimmer in, things get a bit more tricky, but still certainly do-able. There are few enough dragons with close colours and with glimmer that I would probably start with great-grandparents. You can widen your search to ten colours off, but again make sure each pair includes the goal in their range. This is a nice simple tool to help you double check if you're not sure. This time though, you'll also need to make sure that each pair has glimmer and that any that do not have glimmer have a rare tertiary gene. Those are circuit, eclipse, filigree, glowtail, koi, opal, soap, stained, and wish. You will want to prioritize hatchlings that inherit glimmer when you are pairing up the next generation.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about breeding in nocturne, chorus, or myrad. The first and last are cheap to obtain, and the primary is a fairly new treasure gene, so it is likely to be difficult to come by.

Also, when making your pairs, make sure that all of your breeding stock are modern breeds, or they won't be compatible!

Let us know if you have any other questions!

@SongofSummer I mean I've bought the stained gene before, so I'm not averse to buying expensive genes. XD Colors are the hard part for me, since you can't so easily change them to what you want.

Thank you for the help! Glad the scrying workshop at least picked a cheap breed and secondary lol.

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@SongofSummer I mean I've bought the stained gene before, so I'm not averse to buying expensive genes. XD Colors are the hard part for me, since you can't so easily change them to what you want.

Thank you for the help! Glad the scrying workshop at least picked a cheap breed and secondary lol.

I'm aiming to get this annoying mess of a dragon to work out:

Image of a dragon: Adult Male Imperial dragon with Sapphire Bar primary, Emerald Constellation secondary, and Honey Spines tertiary genes. The dragon has Dark Sclera Shadow element eyes.

#3580394

I have all three gene scrolls for him, so that is not a problem. I'm just struggling with working out how to make the colors work favorably.

I have this Imperial... his name is Trickster. He's going to be how I intend to make sure this resulting dragon is going to be an Imperial. Trickster's colors are Nightshade (Primary), Purple (Secondary), and Grape (Tertiary); his full range is only 5 colors apart from each other. And Nightshade is also really close to the primary color I'm aiming for. But the secondary and tertiary colors? They leave a lot to be desired, and I don't really know how to handle that.

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I'm aiming to get this annoying mess of a dragon to work out:

#3580394

I have all three gene scrolls for him, so that is not a problem. I'm just struggling with working out how to make the colors work favorably.

I have this Imperial... his name is Trickster. He's going to be how I intend to make sure this resulting dragon is going to be an Imperial. Trickster's colors are Nightshade (Primary), Purple (Secondary), and Grape (Tertiary); his full range is only 5 colors apart from each other. And Nightshade is also really close to the primary color I'm aiming for. But the secondary and tertiary colors? They leave a lot to be desired, and I don't really know how to handle that.

Last edited on Feb 25, 2025 21:44:23 by Christof