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We should have gotten this way way sooner, before people spent so much irl money on gems :c Luckily i didn't, I still have my scattersights that I was planning on finally selling next month, rip their crazy value. I feel sorry for everyone who did tho.
We should have gotten this way way sooner, before people spent so much irl money on gems :c Luckily i didn't, I still have my scattersights that I was planning on finally selling next month, rip their crazy value. I feel sorry for everyone who did tho.
I don't care one way or another, but the time for this, if it was going to be done, was years ago. I don't blame anyone who saved up for a primal g1 or blew a ton of treasure on a breeding project if they feel cheated rn.
I don't care one way or another, but the time for this, if it was going to be done, was years ago. I don't blame anyone who saved up for a primal g1 or blew a ton of treasure on a breeding project if they feel cheated rn.
Holy, I was not expecting this.
Gonna say great change overall, BUT.. Primal eyes being a 500kt vial has just plummeted primal dragon overall value. I probably would have preferred that scattersights returned for the more rare eye types.
That being said, this is preferable to the old system, it just burns those of us who spent a lot more than 500kt on primals.
Gonna say great change overall, BUT.. Primal eyes being a 500kt vial has just plummeted primal dragon overall value. I probably would have preferred that scattersights returned for the more rare eye types.
That being said, this is preferable to the old system, it just burns those of us who spent a lot more than 500kt on primals.
Holy, I was not expecting this.
Gonna say great change overall, BUT.. Primal eyes being a 500kt vial has just plummeted primal dragon overall value. I probably would have preferred that scattersights returned for the more rare eye types.
That being said, this is preferable to the old system, it just burns those of us who spent a lot more than 500kt on primals.
Gonna say great change overall, BUT.. Primal eyes being a 500kt vial has just plummeted primal dragon overall value. I probably would have preferred that scattersights returned for the more rare eye types.
That being said, this is preferable to the old system, it just burns those of us who spent a lot more than 500kt on primals.
(This needs to be updated but I am lazy)
vysearcadia pretty much covered everything for me (thanks!) This point in particular though:
[quote name="vysearcadia" date="2021-05-03 13:36:54" ]
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
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If there were any changes to the way we acquire eye types, this is what I was expecting.
It's great that we can get the perfect eyes on any dragon we want, but I'm upset that dragons with special eyes and scatter vials were just abruptly devalued after so long.
vysearcadia pretty much covered everything for me (thanks!) This point in particular though:
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
If there were any changes to the way we acquire eye types, this is what I was expecting.
It's great that we can get the perfect eyes on any dragon we want, but I'm upset that dragons with special eyes and scatter vials were just abruptly devalued after so long.
vysearcadia wrote on 2021-05-03 13:36:54:
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
If there were any changes to the way we acquire eye types, this is what I was expecting.
It's great that we can get the perfect eyes on any dragon we want, but I'm upset that dragons with special eyes and scatter vials were just abruptly devalued after so long.
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ah finally, this is how it should have been done from the start.
ah finally, this is how it should have been done from the start.
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[quote name="Kolob" date="2021-05-03 14:15:08" ]
This is an update they should have introduced within a month of the original eye update. That would have avoided this situation and wouldn't have made for retrospectively unfair sacrifices.
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This is exactly the point and biggest problem
People defending this and saying this "isn't bringing back scatter-vials" genuinely do not understand that these are still eye-vials and are still a form of bringing back what was promised to never return again; which, imho, was removed for no good reason to begin with??
Others have already mentioned this before, but I throw my hat into the ring of this:
scatter-vials simply should not have ever been removed since the original eye update, and all would have been good.
quick edit, absolutely agreed with this:
[quote name="Zerik" date="2021-05-03 14:20:50" ]
vysearcadia pretty much covered everything for me (thanks!) This point in particular though:
[quote name="vysearcadia" date="2021-05-03 13:36:54" ]
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
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If there were any changes to the way we acquire eye types, this is what I was expecting.
It's great that we can get the perfect eyes on any dragon we want, but I'm upset that dragons with special eyes and scatter vials were just abruptly devalued after so long.
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Kolob wrote on 2021-05-03 14:15:08:
This is an update they should have introduced within a month of the original eye update. That would have avoided this situation and wouldn't have made for retrospectively unfair sacrifices.
People defending this and saying this "isn't bringing back scatter-vials" genuinely do not understand that these are still eye-vials and are still a form of bringing back what was promised to never return again; which, imho, was removed for no good reason to begin with??
Others have already mentioned this before, but I throw my hat into the ring of this:
scatter-vials simply should not have ever been removed since the original eye update, and all would have been good.
quick edit, absolutely agreed with this:
Zerik wrote on 2021-05-03 14:20:50:
vysearcadia pretty much covered everything for me (thanks!) This point in particular though:
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
If there were any changes to the way we acquire eye types, this is what I was expecting.
It's great that we can get the perfect eyes on any dragon we want, but I'm upset that dragons with special eyes and scatter vials were just abruptly devalued after so long.
vysearcadia wrote on 2021-05-03 13:36:54:
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
If there were any changes to the way we acquire eye types, this is what I was expecting.
It's great that we can get the perfect eyes on any dragon we want, but I'm upset that dragons with special eyes and scatter vials were just abruptly devalued after so long.
[quote name="Otterbeans" date="2021-05-03 14:01:13" ]
[quote name="vysearcadia" date="2021-05-03 13:36:54" ]
I think this update is a little convoluted and difficult to parse. It's nice and does provide a solution for those who need it, but there's MANY contradictions in it that make me wonder if this is all just a ploy to be a treasure sink.
I'm not upset at the update, and as a more casual player, this is much more attainable for me. I don't have time for Flight Rising, so my lazy self can get the dragons I want now, but I want to address how poorly worded your explanation section is, and some reasons why it is getting so much negative attention.
[quote]It was important for us to retain the hatchling surprises of the old system, while giving players a path forward for their existing dragons (through enough effort, time, and treasure)[/quote]
If this was the case, this implies some really unfair things onto players:
1. This wording is really inconsiderate of people who have worked HARD on this game through breeding for years to get their perfect dragon with the type they want. It implies that, by your standards, they have not worked hard enough to get what they want from a system that was RNG dominated, when they could have spent years on this site grinding with no success. It isn't their fault that RNG did not favour them, and their work is no less 'hard' for it.
2. It's also inconsiderate to people who previously grinded constantly on this game to get treasure to buy increasingly more expensive scattersights for the last 3 years and try their hand at RNG. Again, it's not that they haven't worked hard enough, it's that they never got lucky enough to get what they want.
3. If you're so keen on the game encouraging hard work that you make it the ethos of the entire game, why did you make getting the vials so easy in comparison to the scattersights and invalidating those 3 years of hard work done previously by your playerbase? In one week you can get enough treasure from the fairegrounds alone to buy the rarest eye type vials. People have mastered Glitter and Gloom to a pinpoint that in no time they can max the treasure cap in no time at all.
If you were so intent on making the game around hard work, you could have:
A. Brought back scattersight vials in the marketplace for a relatively low price, like 50k. I don't understand what exactly is a mistake with this item, and not once have you explained why it was a mistake. People would have probably been a little less volatile about this if you had explained to us why you feel this item should never have been introduced, and heck, maybe you could have tweaked it in a way where it isn't a 'mistake'. This would have continued to validate people who bought scattersights/bred for their eyes, and made people still have to work for them. You get your treasure sink, they get a better shot at what they need.
B. Put the rarest vials behind game mechanics to reward effort and time spent. Primal could have been regular Roundsey prizes only. Multigaze could have been added to a new update to Baldwin, which has been horribly neglected. Facet and Goat could have been Coli drops. Common eyes could still stock in Marketplace for people wanting the simpler eye types.
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
I'm thankful that you got to finally updating this, but the backlash you're getting is based on how long it took for you to address it, and you addressed it aggressively in a way that - inadvertently or not - invalidates people's existing hard work and effort. If you did this much sooner, this wouldn't have had so much negative feedback from people who just spent a VERY long time on this site fighting a system that was never in their favour.
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This sums up my feelings perfectly. Esp the bit about how all the vials are just treasure marketplace now when they could have been Roundsey rotation, Baldwin, Swipp, Coli, etc. It would make eyes a little more special if they were harder to get. 500k treasure is honestly nothing, at current ratio that's like 300 gems. At least make it as expensive as a gem gene.
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I completely agree with this. I can easily max out glimmer and gloom in 30 minutes at most. There’s tutorials all over YouTube, and it can quickly become muscle memory. I have lots of mixed feelings about this update.
Otterbeans wrote on 2021-05-03 14:01:13:
vysearcadia wrote on 2021-05-03 13:36:54:
I think this update is a little convoluted and difficult to parse. It's nice and does provide a solution for those who need it, but there's MANY contradictions in it that make me wonder if this is all just a ploy to be a treasure sink.
I'm not upset at the update, and as a more casual player, this is much more attainable for me. I don't have time for Flight Rising, so my lazy self can get the dragons I want now, but I want to address how poorly worded your explanation section is, and some reasons why it is getting so much negative attention.
If this was the case, this implies some really unfair things onto players:
1. This wording is really inconsiderate of people who have worked HARD on this game through breeding for years to get their perfect dragon with the type they want. It implies that, by your standards, they have not worked hard enough to get what they want from a system that was RNG dominated, when they could have spent years on this site grinding with no success. It isn't their fault that RNG did not favour them, and their work is no less 'hard' for it.
2. It's also inconsiderate to people who previously grinded constantly on this game to get treasure to buy increasingly more expensive scattersights for the last 3 years and try their hand at RNG. Again, it's not that they haven't worked hard enough, it's that they never got lucky enough to get what they want.
3. If you're so keen on the game encouraging hard work that you make it the ethos of the entire game, why did you make getting the vials so easy in comparison to the scattersights and invalidating those 3 years of hard work done previously by your playerbase? In one week you can get enough treasure from the fairegrounds alone to buy the rarest eye type vials. People have mastered Glitter and Gloom to a pinpoint that in no time they can max the treasure cap in no time at all.
If you were so intent on making the game around hard work, you could have:
A. Brought back scattersight vials in the marketplace for a relatively low price, like 50k. I don't understand what exactly is a mistake with this item, and not once have you explained why it was a mistake. People would have probably been a little less volatile about this if you had explained to us why you feel this item should never have been introduced, and heck, maybe you could have tweaked it in a way where it isn't a 'mistake'. This would have continued to validate people who bought scattersights/bred for their eyes, and made people still have to work for them. You get your treasure sink, they get a better shot at what they need.
B. Put the rarest vials behind game mechanics to reward effort and time spent. Primal could have been regular Roundsey prizes only. Multigaze could have been added to a new update to Baldwin, which has been horribly neglected. Facet and Goat could have been Coli drops. Common eyes could still stock in Marketplace for people wanting the simpler eye types.
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
I'm thankful that you got to finally updating this, but the backlash you're getting is based on how long it took for you to address it, and you addressed it aggressively in a way that - inadvertently or not - invalidates people's existing hard work and effort. If you did this much sooner, this wouldn't have had so much negative feedback from people who just spent a VERY long time on this site fighting a system that was never in their favour.
I'm not upset at the update, and as a more casual player, this is much more attainable for me. I don't have time for Flight Rising, so my lazy self can get the dragons I want now, but I want to address how poorly worded your explanation section is, and some reasons why it is getting so much negative attention.
Quote:
It was important for us to retain the hatchling surprises of the old system, while giving players a path forward for their existing dragons (through enough effort, time, and treasure)
If this was the case, this implies some really unfair things onto players:
1. This wording is really inconsiderate of people who have worked HARD on this game through breeding for years to get their perfect dragon with the type they want. It implies that, by your standards, they have not worked hard enough to get what they want from a system that was RNG dominated, when they could have spent years on this site grinding with no success. It isn't their fault that RNG did not favour them, and their work is no less 'hard' for it.
2. It's also inconsiderate to people who previously grinded constantly on this game to get treasure to buy increasingly more expensive scattersights for the last 3 years and try their hand at RNG. Again, it's not that they haven't worked hard enough, it's that they never got lucky enough to get what they want.
3. If you're so keen on the game encouraging hard work that you make it the ethos of the entire game, why did you make getting the vials so easy in comparison to the scattersights and invalidating those 3 years of hard work done previously by your playerbase? In one week you can get enough treasure from the fairegrounds alone to buy the rarest eye type vials. People have mastered Glitter and Gloom to a pinpoint that in no time they can max the treasure cap in no time at all.
If you were so intent on making the game around hard work, you could have:
A. Brought back scattersight vials in the marketplace for a relatively low price, like 50k. I don't understand what exactly is a mistake with this item, and not once have you explained why it was a mistake. People would have probably been a little less volatile about this if you had explained to us why you feel this item should never have been introduced, and heck, maybe you could have tweaked it in a way where it isn't a 'mistake'. This would have continued to validate people who bought scattersights/bred for their eyes, and made people still have to work for them. You get your treasure sink, they get a better shot at what they need.
B. Put the rarest vials behind game mechanics to reward effort and time spent. Primal could have been regular Roundsey prizes only. Multigaze could have been added to a new update to Baldwin, which has been horribly neglected. Facet and Goat could have been Coli drops. Common eyes could still stock in Marketplace for people wanting the simpler eye types.
C. Expanded the breeding system where eye types of parents pass down to their children. Rarer natural eye types can still be recessive, but have better chances than if you bred two dragons that didn't have the particular natural eye type. This ensures that any eyes that can't be gotten naturally retain their value.
I'm thankful that you got to finally updating this, but the backlash you're getting is based on how long it took for you to address it, and you addressed it aggressively in a way that - inadvertently or not - invalidates people's existing hard work and effort. If you did this much sooner, this wouldn't have had so much negative feedback from people who just spent a VERY long time on this site fighting a system that was never in their favour.
This sums up my feelings perfectly. Esp the bit about how all the vials are just treasure marketplace now when they could have been Roundsey rotation, Baldwin, Swipp, Coli, etc. It would make eyes a little more special if they were harder to get. 500k treasure is honestly nothing, at current ratio that's like 300 gems. At least make it as expensive as a gem gene.
I completely agree with this. I can easily max out glimmer and gloom in 30 minutes at most. There’s tutorials all over YouTube, and it can quickly become muscle memory. I have lots of mixed feelings about this update.
oh no... rip all my scattersights I saved up for selling. I hope the still go up in value over time. I guess I can end my banana breeding project for a primal that I have been working on for 2 years. Just have to get my hands on a primal vial I guess.
oh no... rip all my scattersights I saved up for selling. I hope the still go up in value over time. I guess I can end my banana breeding project for a primal that I have been working on for 2 years. Just have to get my hands on a primal vial I guess.
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Mmm... on the one hand, I'm happy for everyone being able to fully customize their dragons, and for people not needing to use potentially hundreds of vials to change a few pixels to a different color.
On the other hand, there goes the nest egg I was planning on finally cracking into this week to pay for all the gem-heavy project dragons I've been picking up the last two weeks. I'm glad it was just the stash I ground to get when they came out, because I can't imagine being one of the players who have already spoken up and said they've put most of their savings into a now worthless item.
I also feel terrible for any middle-old players who were saving them to get a leg up on collecting rares from before their time. They've just been seriously reset progress-wise, and it's pushed those old items that much further out of reach for many. And there's the players that have burned thousands of gems on G1 primals, or who have just hatched ones that are now worth a fraction of what they might have been last night.
I guess at least we can finally have new eye types without anger all over the forums again. Maybe we'll get fun things like spider eyes and whatnot. That would be nice.
On the other hand, there goes the nest egg I was planning on finally cracking into this week to pay for all the gem-heavy project dragons I've been picking up the last two weeks. I'm glad it was just the stash I ground to get when they came out, because I can't imagine being one of the players who have already spoken up and said they've put most of their savings into a now worthless item.
I also feel terrible for any middle-old players who were saving them to get a leg up on collecting rares from before their time. They've just been seriously reset progress-wise, and it's pushed those old items that much further out of reach for many. And there's the players that have burned thousands of gems on G1 primals, or who have just hatched ones that are now worth a fraction of what they might have been last night.
I guess at least we can finally have new eye types without anger all over the forums again. Maybe we'll get fun things like spider eyes and whatnot. That would be nice.
Mmm... on the one hand, I'm happy for everyone being able to fully customize their dragons, and for people not needing to use potentially hundreds of vials to change a few pixels to a different color.
On the other hand, there goes the nest egg I was planning on finally cracking into this week to pay for all the gem-heavy project dragons I've been picking up the last two weeks. I'm glad it was just the stash I ground to get when they came out, because I can't imagine being one of the players who have already spoken up and said they've put most of their savings into a now worthless item.
I also feel terrible for any middle-old players who were saving them to get a leg up on collecting rares from before their time. They've just been seriously reset progress-wise, and it's pushed those old items that much further out of reach for many. And there's the players that have burned thousands of gems on G1 primals, or who have just hatched ones that are now worth a fraction of what they might have been last night.
I guess at least we can finally have new eye types without anger all over the forums again. Maybe we'll get fun things like spider eyes and whatnot. That would be nice.
On the other hand, there goes the nest egg I was planning on finally cracking into this week to pay for all the gem-heavy project dragons I've been picking up the last two weeks. I'm glad it was just the stash I ground to get when they came out, because I can't imagine being one of the players who have already spoken up and said they've put most of their savings into a now worthless item.
I also feel terrible for any middle-old players who were saving them to get a leg up on collecting rares from before their time. They've just been seriously reset progress-wise, and it's pushed those old items that much further out of reach for many. And there's the players that have burned thousands of gems on G1 primals, or who have just hatched ones that are now worth a fraction of what they might have been last night.
I guess at least we can finally have new eye types without anger all over the forums again. Maybe we'll get fun things like spider eyes and whatnot. That would be nice.
