Jessyta wrote on 2020-03-26 15:06:57:
Not everyone on FR is a completionist though.... Sure, adding more skins may make some people that can't afford them all decide not to get any (I actually think that isn't very likely, but it is possible) but it could also mean players like myself buy more as I only buys skins for certain breeds and never bother buying skins for breeds I dislike.
The issue with this is that there is no guarantee that your favorite breeds will get more skins, it may be more for breeds you dislike. More skins doesn't mean more people buying, especially if they continue to ignore the best skins, for whatever reason, and keep giving two or more skins for the same pose. sure, one or two festivals may have one or two more skins that you will buy, but that still leaves 9 festivals that have more skins overall, but you are still buying the same number of skins you were with the reduced number.
Again the issue with more festival skins is I don't believe they WOULD make a good treasure sink, not in the long run, because players would burn out much faster, even if they aren't completionists. Remember we have 11 festivals a year, and even now players are getting burnt out over them. Adding more of the same to them will just make that burn out faster.
Better treasure sinks are ones that are available year round that players not only want to utilize, but that are always there, so players aren't forced to utilize them.
On Neopets, they have these events, think they are the charity corner, where you are meant to throw neopoints at something for charity. I never bother to participate, because it feels to pressured, and I would never come even close to obtaining the stuff I want. Same thing for 'time limited treasure sinks' on other sites.
However, I am quite willing to toss money at things like wheels, or MP to get things I want. Those are far more effective treasure sinks, because there is no pressure to obtain them.
I also think that people are overlooking that the original suggestion wasn't just add a couple more skins, but to constantly keep adding skins in order to keep up with the number of breeds, which I feel is unsustainable in the long run, especially with 11 festivals a year coming around.
Again, a couple more skins, especially added to baldwins or even swipp, wouldn't be bad, but I don't think that trying to keep up with breeds, nor do I think continually adding to the number of skins, to infinity, would work. I think it would be counter intuitive, because players would quickly burn out. I think there does need to be a hard cap of how many skins are added to festivals (my personal would be 20, with any above the 12 MP/coli skins being in baldwin or swipp, or adventure mode when it comes out, if it is feasible) to KEEP the skins being effective treasure sinks.
Eventually, even maxing the fairgrounds everyday wouldn't earn you enough money to buy a full set of MP skins. According to my meager calculations, at 20 skins per festival, maxing the fairgrounds every day for 7 days wouldn't earn you enough to buy a full set (you would get 17 and have some change left over, and this is at the discounted price), so right there, at 20, the site is now cutting into savings from non-festival weeks should players decide on a full set)
No, no one *needs* to buy a full set, but many players do like it, or like to get multiple copies of their favorites, and that playstyle shouldn't be just brushed aside because other players don't play that way. It shouldn't be the only reason for suggestions to be brushed aside either. However, since many of the issues I have seen mentioned as reasons for wanting more skins either won't necessarily be solved (just because there are more skin slots doesn't mean that there will be more/different breeds picked, nor that the 'best' skins from the thread will be picked), or can be solved in a much more effective way (needing more treasure sinks and more ancient skins).
So to me, beyond a certain number, there really is no need to constantly up the number of skins chosen per festival. Even the issue of there are so many good artists whose work isn't chosen for the festivals won't be necessarily fixed and can be fixed by simply having more contests where the number of skins needed isn't fixed, so if they get 10 good skins ,that is how many winners. If they get 20, guess what, we have 20 winners, but if they only get 5? yep, only five people won.
Those skins would then go into various places, such as the MP, coliseum, baldwin, swipp and whatever new mechanics come out that give out items/skins.
Again, the statement that 'more treasure sinks is a good thing' isn't true. a true statement is 'more EFFECTIVE treasure sinks is a good thing' because if players stop utilizing the treasure sink, it is no longer an effective one. I think that would eventually happen with skins for the festivals. Soon only the hardcore players would buy, because others would simply be burned out.
