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I'm both annoyed that if the poll goes towards the old obelisk design, the manes on multiple dragons get changed, but also very intrigued because I want to see what they might look like
I'm both annoyed that if the poll goes towards the old obelisk design, the manes on multiple dragons get changed, but also very intrigued because I want to see what they might look like
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[quote name="Gryphonlady" date="2021-12-28 14:13:16" ] I'll be honest, I don't like the proposed solution. Someone is getting the short end of the stick either way: either obelisks lose their charming character in the manes, or, people with flair on every other mane/fur dragon get their gene art changed and go through the same distress as those who had their obbies changed. There is not a win on the table here. [/quote] Yes, why does everyone need to change? Why can't this be like Butterfly, where some breeds are dark and some are light? When you guys (staff) changed Butterfly to be consistent and people didn't like it, you decided to bring back the old look on the breeds that previously had it, [i][b]not all of the breeds[/b][/i]. Why can't Flair be like this? [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=8&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=a55c74cec5650e374c2eeb36adc84893b3fc3ac6&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Light (intended) [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=13&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=e3bcc53612caaf7dd56a40a6ed587ab87d7c3fa0&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Dark (alternate) [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=4&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=71e9c448e276e22ab770cb9d61cebff5e300fbe0&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Light (intended) [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=6&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=43ff304073059cfd0f71d5000415d87a0a5b93c0&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Dark (alternate) I'm voting to make all the breeds like old Obelisks if that's really the only two options you're going to give us, but I do think the real solution was just to restore the old Obelisk Flair, not change [b]everything[/b]. Edit: I suggest there should be two more choices. [b]Obelisks get old Flair back, other breeds do not change[/b] and [b]Obelisks get old Flair back, other breeds keep the current Flair colours but also get the addition of the sparkles Obelisks have[/b] In this situation, my choice would be Obelisks getting old Flair back plus the other breeds getting the sparkles. Looking at the lack of sparkles seems wrong for the gene now, when it's otherwise so sparkly [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=11&bodygene=19&breed=6&element=8&eyetype=6&gender=0&tert=100&tertgene=10&winggene=82&wings=11&auth=b3973b93685b562f847894a20bb4a9a3f14f1126&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=11&bodygene=19&breed=15&element=8&eyetype=6&gender=1&tert=100&tertgene=10&winggene=82&wings=11&auth=efe7b5c4aa252696588cd897f97bc6dacce8e6c1&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Gryphonlady wrote on 2021-12-28 14:13:16:
I'll be honest, I don't like the proposed solution. Someone is getting the short end of the stick either way: either obelisks lose their charming character in the manes, or, people with flair on every other mane/fur dragon get their gene art changed and go through the same distress as those who had their obbies changed.

There is not a win on the table here.

Yes, why does everyone need to change? Why can't this be like Butterfly, where some breeds are dark and some are light? When you guys (staff) changed Butterfly to be consistent and people didn't like it, you decided to bring back the old look on the breeds that previously had it, not all of the breeds. Why can't Flair be like this?

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Light (intended)

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Dark (alternate)

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Light (intended)

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Dark (alternate)

I'm voting to make all the breeds like old Obelisks if that's really the only two options you're going to give us, but I do think the real solution was just to restore the old Obelisk Flair, not change everything.

Edit: I suggest there should be two more choices.

Obelisks get old Flair back, other breeds do not change

and

Obelisks get old Flair back, other breeds keep the current Flair colours but also get the addition of the sparkles Obelisks have

In this situation, my choice would be Obelisks getting old Flair back plus the other breeds getting the sparkles. Looking at the lack of sparkles seems wrong for the gene now, when it's otherwise so sparkly

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[quote name="SilverShadow5" date="2021-12-28 14:24:02" ] I'm both annoyed that if the poll goes towards the old obelisk design, the manes on multiple dragons get changed, but also very intrigued because I want to see what they might look like [/quote] This haha like. like,,, I kind of wanna see :>
SilverShadow5 wrote on 2021-12-28 14:24:02:
I'm both annoyed that if the poll goes towards the old obelisk design, the manes on multiple dragons get changed, but also very intrigued because I want to see what they might look like
This haha like. like,,, I kind of wanna see :>
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With regards to the poll:

Option 1 keeps the current state - with Obelisk manes matching all other breeds.

Option 2 reverts Obelisks but also applies the Obelisk color palette to all other breeds on the list (Pearlcatchers, Tundras, Wildclaws, Imperials, and Skydancers). They will also get the missing sparkles.

There is not an option to go back to yesterday's gene behavior.

(trying to tuck this into the top of each page to keep awareness).
With regards to the poll:

Option 1 keeps the current state - with Obelisk manes matching all other breeds.

Option 2 reverts Obelisks but also applies the Obelisk color palette to all other breeds on the list (Pearlcatchers, Tundras, Wildclaws, Imperials, and Skydancers). They will also get the missing sparkles.

There is not an option to go back to yesterday's gene behavior.

(trying to tuck this into the top of each page to keep awareness).
I would like to see some more examples of what the manes and such on the other breeds would look like first and compare to see if the design would look good or not.
I would like to see some more examples of what the manes and such on the other breeds would look like first and compare to see if the design would look good or not.
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[quote name="Cakeless" date="2021-12-28 14:23:23" ] This decision doesn't make sense. We asked for the original Obelisk Flair back, we didn't mention anything about wanting other breeds to match. What's wrong with just leaving things as they were across the board for the Flair gene? [/quote] This is in the interest of ensuring the art for genes is consistent across breeds as our catalog continues to grow exponentially with each new addition. @Cakeless
Cakeless wrote on 2021-12-28 14:23:23:
This decision doesn't make sense. We asked for the original Obelisk Flair back, we didn't mention anything about wanting other breeds to match. What's wrong with just leaving things as they were across the board for the Flair gene?

This is in the interest of ensuring the art for genes is consistent across breeds as our catalog continues to grow exponentially with each new addition.

@Cakeless
I understand the sentiment of making the gene look consistent, but I don't think anyone minds the fact that flair looks slightly different on obelisks/benefits them in a different way. The dragons look different, have different features, etc. Glimmer makes pearls on PCs change, why can't the Obelisks have something a little special here? The other dragon designs were fine because they were presented as the original intention-- to switch them now does the same thing as this recent edit.
I understand the sentiment of making the gene look consistent, but I don't think anyone minds the fact that flair looks slightly different on obelisks/benefits them in a different way. The dragons look different, have different features, etc. Glimmer makes pearls on PCs change, why can't the Obelisks have something a little special here? The other dragon designs were fine because they were presented as the original intention-- to switch them now does the same thing as this recent edit.
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Thankfully only one of my two Obes got "ruined" he still looks alright, but not the same, and I actually really like the change on my other.

But that said, if we're gonna change anything, just change Obes back and leave the other dragons alone. I think it's gonna cause more problems for people who aren't logging on but a couple days a week, to come back and their dregs got changed because the rest of the community voted to change them.

I don't think the poll is fair to anybody tbh.
Thankfully only one of my two Obes got "ruined" he still looks alright, but not the same, and I actually really like the change on my other.

But that said, if we're gonna change anything, just change Obes back and leave the other dragons alone. I think it's gonna cause more problems for people who aren't logging on but a couple days a week, to come back and their dregs got changed because the rest of the community voted to change them.

I don't think the poll is fair to anybody tbh.
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[quote name="EarthTiger" date="2021-12-28 14:26:10" ] [quote name="Gryphonlady" date="2021-12-28 14:13:16" ] I'll be honest, I don't like the proposed solution. Someone is getting the short end of the stick either way: either obelisks lose their charming character in the manes, or, people with flair on every other mane/fur dragon get their gene art changed and go through the same distress as those who had their obbies changed. There is not a win on the table here. [/quote] Yes, why does everyone need to change? Why can't this be like Butterfly, where some breeds are dark and some are light? When you guys (staff) changed Butterfly to be consistent and people didn't like it, you decided to bring back the old look on the breeds that previously had it, [i][b]not all of the breeds[/b][/i]. Why can't Flair be like this? [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=8&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=a55c74cec5650e374c2eeb36adc84893b3fc3ac6&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Light (intended) [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=13&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=e3bcc53612caaf7dd56a40a6ed587ab87d7c3fa0&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Dark (alternate) [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=4&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=71e9c448e276e22ab770cb9d61cebff5e300fbe0&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Light (intended) [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=47&bodygene=19&breed=6&element=9&eyetype=12&gender=1&tert=12&tertgene=0&winggene=13&wings=155&auth=43ff304073059cfd0f71d5000415d87a0a5b93c0&dummyext=prev.png[/img] Dark (alternate) I'm voting to make all the breeds like old Obelisks if that's really the only two options you're going to give us, but I do think the real solution was just to restore the old Obelisk Flair, not change [b]everything[/b]. [/quote] ^^^ THIS I also voted to make all breeds like old Obelisks, but I feel bad for players who may get their dragons changed.
EarthTiger wrote on 2021-12-28 14:26:10:
Gryphonlady wrote on 2021-12-28 14:13:16:
I'll be honest, I don't like the proposed solution. Someone is getting the short end of the stick either way: either obelisks lose their charming character in the manes, or, people with flair on every other mane/fur dragon get their gene art changed and go through the same distress as those who had their obbies changed.

There is not a win on the table here.

Yes, why does everyone need to change? Why can't this be like Butterfly, where some breeds are dark and some are light? When you guys (staff) changed Butterfly to be consistent and people didn't like it, you decided to bring back the old look on the breeds that previously had it, not all of the breeds. Why can't Flair be like this?

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Light (intended)

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Dark (alternate)

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Light (intended)

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Dark (alternate)

I'm voting to make all the breeds like old Obelisks if that's really the only two options you're going to give us, but I do think the real solution was just to restore the old Obelisk Flair, not change everything.
^^^ THIS
I also voted to make all breeds like old Obelisks, but I feel bad for players who may get their dragons changed.
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[quote name="Aequorin" date="2021-12-28 14:30:07" ] [quote name="Cakeless" date="2021-12-28 14:23:23" ] This decision doesn't make sense. We asked for the original Obelisk Flair back, we didn't mention anything about wanting other breeds to match. What's wrong with just leaving things as they were across the board for the Flair gene? [/quote] This is in the interest of ensuring the art for genes is consistent across breeds as our catalog continues to grow exponentially with each new addition. @/Cakeless [/quote] But you didn't do that with Butterfly [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=11&bodygene=19&breed=13&element=8&eyetype=6&gender=1&tert=100&tertgene=10&winggene=13&wings=84&auth=af152098351cdf6d2ab4d865d812fd968858ea4a&dummyext=prev.png[/img] [img]https://www1.flightrising.com/dgen/preview/dragon?age=1&body=11&bodygene=19&breed=8&element=8&eyetype=6&gender=1&tert=100&tertgene=10&winggene=13&wings=84&auth=b47fa62d3fc463c58eed95876d31a5cf158e5be3&dummyext=prev.png[/img]
Aequorin wrote on 2021-12-28 14:30:07:
Cakeless wrote on 2021-12-28 14:23:23:
This decision doesn't make sense. We asked for the original Obelisk Flair back, we didn't mention anything about wanting other breeds to match. What's wrong with just leaving things as they were across the board for the Flair gene?

This is in the interest of ensuring the art for genes is consistent across breeds as our catalog continues to grow exponentially with each new addition.

@/Cakeless

But you didn't do that with Butterfly

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