Born female and identify as female but I try to respect others to their preferences c: though I haven't experienced much of that in my personal life so I apologize if I forget or assume, gently correct me and I will do my absolute best to remember that for next time. I'm really not trying to be rude at all, so long as you aren't to me :)
TOPIC | Gender Discussion!
Born female and identify as female but I try to respect others to their preferences c: though I haven't experienced much of that in my personal life so I apologize if I forget or assume, gently correct me and I will do my absolute best to remember that for next time. I'm really not trying to be rude at all, so long as you aren't to me :)
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Born female and identify as female but I try to respect others to their preferences c: though I haven't experienced much of that in my personal life so I apologize if I forget or assume, gently correct me and I will do my absolute best to remember that for next time. I'm really not trying to be rude at all, so long as you aren't to me :)
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ArmoredAvenger wrote on 2015-11-23:
Born female and identify as female but I try to respect others to their preferences c: though I haven't experienced much of that in my personal life so I apologize if I forget or assume, gently correct me and I will do my absolute best to remember that for next time. I'm really not trying to be rude at all, so long as you aren't to me :)
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@Downfall
i used to identify solely as male but i'd always been bugged by the fact that one has to project masculinity to be seen as male by others (especially here in Singapore because the people here tend to stick really firmly to the binary, or at least the adults do)
basicallly i've been told by a lot of people that i'm too feminine to be a guy. most of the time, i just brush it off but... it kinda hurts to hear that. like they're saying that this huge part of me isn't real. for example, i've spoken to my parents about this before but after the initial freak out, they seem to have forgotten about it. or not because they might be ignoring it in hope that their kid will grow out of this trans bs
they sent me to a counsellor that doesn't quite understand gender and it gets somewhat irritating whenever he talks about it because it usually starts off with, "So you think you're a guy?"
it makes me want to scream, but i don't since i'd feel bad about screaming at a person who's otherwise pretty cool
also i'm starting to regret introducing my younger cousin to this game because they can see the forums if they choose to. god forbid they find my info and question me about things like this because they can't keep silent about things. not sure if i want to block them because they're friends with me on here and they'd definitely notice if my icon suddenly disappeared from their friends list. oh my god
though, there've been people from my school who are pretty understanding regarding my gender and i'm really glad that i know them. so thankfully it's not all bad
i used to identify solely as male but i'd always been bugged by the fact that one has to project masculinity to be seen as male by others (especially here in Singapore because the people here tend to stick really firmly to the binary, or at least the adults do)
basicallly i've been told by a lot of people that i'm too feminine to be a guy. most of the time, i just brush it off but... it kinda hurts to hear that. like they're saying that this huge part of me isn't real. for example, i've spoken to my parents about this before but after the initial freak out, they seem to have forgotten about it. or not because they might be ignoring it in hope that their kid will grow out of this trans bs
they sent me to a counsellor that doesn't quite understand gender and it gets somewhat irritating whenever he talks about it because it usually starts off with, "So you think you're a guy?"
it makes me want to scream, but i don't since i'd feel bad about screaming at a person who's otherwise pretty cool
also i'm starting to regret introducing my younger cousin to this game because they can see the forums if they choose to. god forbid they find my info and question me about things like this because they can't keep silent about things. not sure if i want to block them because they're friends with me on here and they'd definitely notice if my icon suddenly disappeared from their friends list. oh my god
though, there've been people from my school who are pretty understanding regarding my gender and i'm really glad that i know them. so thankfully it's not all bad
@Downfall
i used to identify solely as male but i'd always been bugged by the fact that one has to project masculinity to be seen as male by others (especially here in Singapore because the people here tend to stick really firmly to the binary, or at least the adults do)
basicallly i've been told by a lot of people that i'm too feminine to be a guy. most of the time, i just brush it off but... it kinda hurts to hear that. like they're saying that this huge part of me isn't real. for example, i've spoken to my parents about this before but after the initial freak out, they seem to have forgotten about it. or not because they might be ignoring it in hope that their kid will grow out of this trans bs
they sent me to a counsellor that doesn't quite understand gender and it gets somewhat irritating whenever he talks about it because it usually starts off with, "So you think you're a guy?"
it makes me want to scream, but i don't since i'd feel bad about screaming at a person who's otherwise pretty cool
also i'm starting to regret introducing my younger cousin to this game because they can see the forums if they choose to. god forbid they find my info and question me about things like this because they can't keep silent about things. not sure if i want to block them because they're friends with me on here and they'd definitely notice if my icon suddenly disappeared from their friends list. oh my god
though, there've been people from my school who are pretty understanding regarding my gender and i'm really glad that i know them. so thankfully it's not all bad
i used to identify solely as male but i'd always been bugged by the fact that one has to project masculinity to be seen as male by others (especially here in Singapore because the people here tend to stick really firmly to the binary, or at least the adults do)
basicallly i've been told by a lot of people that i'm too feminine to be a guy. most of the time, i just brush it off but... it kinda hurts to hear that. like they're saying that this huge part of me isn't real. for example, i've spoken to my parents about this before but after the initial freak out, they seem to have forgotten about it. or not because they might be ignoring it in hope that their kid will grow out of this trans bs
they sent me to a counsellor that doesn't quite understand gender and it gets somewhat irritating whenever he talks about it because it usually starts off with, "So you think you're a guy?"
it makes me want to scream, but i don't since i'd feel bad about screaming at a person who's otherwise pretty cool
also i'm starting to regret introducing my younger cousin to this game because they can see the forums if they choose to. god forbid they find my info and question me about things like this because they can't keep silent about things. not sure if i want to block them because they're friends with me on here and they'd definitely notice if my icon suddenly disappeared from their friends list. oh my god
though, there've been people from my school who are pretty understanding regarding my gender and i'm really glad that i know them. so thankfully it's not all bad
just your average binary transguy yknow
gender wasnt something i thought about much until i'd finished school (which was an all girl's school, ironically. also meant that i just kinda accepted it must be the case while i was there) and when i'd finally gotten away from that place and properly learned what being trans is i had a moment of "oh that explains it then"
the only struggle for me was finding a name to stick with using lmao. also coming out. my friends are fine with it, family not so much. my mum's views on the matter are total bs.
wish i could tell my college too but mum'd find out lmao
but yeah
gender wasnt something i thought about much until i'd finished school (which was an all girl's school, ironically. also meant that i just kinda accepted it must be the case while i was there) and when i'd finally gotten away from that place and properly learned what being trans is i had a moment of "oh that explains it then"
the only struggle for me was finding a name to stick with using lmao. also coming out. my friends are fine with it, family not so much. my mum's views on the matter are total bs.
wish i could tell my college too but mum'd find out lmao
but yeah
just your average binary transguy yknow
gender wasnt something i thought about much until i'd finished school (which was an all girl's school, ironically. also meant that i just kinda accepted it must be the case while i was there) and when i'd finally gotten away from that place and properly learned what being trans is i had a moment of "oh that explains it then"
the only struggle for me was finding a name to stick with using lmao. also coming out. my friends are fine with it, family not so much. my mum's views on the matter are total bs.
wish i could tell my college too but mum'd find out lmao
but yeah
gender wasnt something i thought about much until i'd finished school (which was an all girl's school, ironically. also meant that i just kinda accepted it must be the case while i was there) and when i'd finally gotten away from that place and properly learned what being trans is i had a moment of "oh that explains it then"
the only struggle for me was finding a name to stick with using lmao. also coming out. my friends are fine with it, family not so much. my mum's views on the matter are total bs.
wish i could tell my college too but mum'd find out lmao
but yeah
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I was born a male and I identify as male because I don't know what it is like to feel like something else. I have no experience to compare it to something else. I have two friends who are transsexual and they had to explain to me that that is not the same thing as transgendered. One has not yet undergone surgery but she will be soon. She has already been undergoing hormone therapy. She can't wait to look like she wants. My other friend has been undergoing hormone therapy but refuse to get surgery out of fear unfortunately. She used to lift lots of weights and is pretty muscular but she alway hated it and did so to conform. Her muscles are decreasing quickly though surprisingly so she is happy. Although I found her pretty hot when she was muscular and she makes jokes about that all the time lol. But they explained to me that growing up they liked feminine things and they liked dresses and stuff like that. One was berated by her dad after she said she wanted to be a girl when she was 7, the other told her parents when she was 8 and her parents we're completely accepting thankfully.
But that got me thinking, they naturally acted feminine their entire life, they always felt like woman. But I don't get it. What does it feel like to feel like a man or a woman? I don't know if I feel like a man per say but I look like one, and I don't feel like a woman because I don't know what feeling like a woman feels like. I build muscle because I find muscular guys to be extremely attractive and it makes it easier for me to find a mate. I don't care if people refer to me as a girl as long as they are not using it to insult me for being gay as has happened one time. I have never been referred to as an it but I would not like it. I don't even refer to other animals as an it because it feels wrong unless a person specifically tells me to call them that.
So I guess my overall question is how do you know what you identify as? Is it just inherent or do you take time to figure it out?
But that got me thinking, they naturally acted feminine their entire life, they always felt like woman. But I don't get it. What does it feel like to feel like a man or a woman? I don't know if I feel like a man per say but I look like one, and I don't feel like a woman because I don't know what feeling like a woman feels like. I build muscle because I find muscular guys to be extremely attractive and it makes it easier for me to find a mate. I don't care if people refer to me as a girl as long as they are not using it to insult me for being gay as has happened one time. I have never been referred to as an it but I would not like it. I don't even refer to other animals as an it because it feels wrong unless a person specifically tells me to call them that.
So I guess my overall question is how do you know what you identify as? Is it just inherent or do you take time to figure it out?
I was born a male and I identify as male because I don't know what it is like to feel like something else. I have no experience to compare it to something else. I have two friends who are transsexual and they had to explain to me that that is not the same thing as transgendered. One has not yet undergone surgery but she will be soon. She has already been undergoing hormone therapy. She can't wait to look like she wants. My other friend has been undergoing hormone therapy but refuse to get surgery out of fear unfortunately. She used to lift lots of weights and is pretty muscular but she alway hated it and did so to conform. Her muscles are decreasing quickly though surprisingly so she is happy. Although I found her pretty hot when she was muscular and she makes jokes about that all the time lol. But they explained to me that growing up they liked feminine things and they liked dresses and stuff like that. One was berated by her dad after she said she wanted to be a girl when she was 7, the other told her parents when she was 8 and her parents we're completely accepting thankfully.
But that got me thinking, they naturally acted feminine their entire life, they always felt like woman. But I don't get it. What does it feel like to feel like a man or a woman? I don't know if I feel like a man per say but I look like one, and I don't feel like a woman because I don't know what feeling like a woman feels like. I build muscle because I find muscular guys to be extremely attractive and it makes it easier for me to find a mate. I don't care if people refer to me as a girl as long as they are not using it to insult me for being gay as has happened one time. I have never been referred to as an it but I would not like it. I don't even refer to other animals as an it because it feels wrong unless a person specifically tells me to call them that.
So I guess my overall question is how do you know what you identify as? Is it just inherent or do you take time to figure it out?
But that got me thinking, they naturally acted feminine their entire life, they always felt like woman. But I don't get it. What does it feel like to feel like a man or a woman? I don't know if I feel like a man per say but I look like one, and I don't feel like a woman because I don't know what feeling like a woman feels like. I build muscle because I find muscular guys to be extremely attractive and it makes it easier for me to find a mate. I don't care if people refer to me as a girl as long as they are not using it to insult me for being gay as has happened one time. I have never been referred to as an it but I would not like it. I don't even refer to other animals as an it because it feels wrong unless a person specifically tells me to call them that.
So I guess my overall question is how do you know what you identify as? Is it just inherent or do you take time to figure it out?
Genderfluid. Some days I try and present myself as masculine, binder and all, and other days I feel feminine so I'll go with that.
Though, truthfully, most days I feel just... in the middle so I'll leave it at that. Though it's something I don't tell many people and since I'm typically forced to "present" as a gender I'm not feeling during a certain day, it can become extremely frustrating and hard to bear.
Though, truthfully, most days I feel just... in the middle so I'll leave it at that. Though it's something I don't tell many people and since I'm typically forced to "present" as a gender I'm not feeling during a certain day, it can become extremely frustrating and hard to bear.
Genderfluid. Some days I try and present myself as masculine, binder and all, and other days I feel feminine so I'll go with that.
Though, truthfully, most days I feel just... in the middle so I'll leave it at that. Though it's something I don't tell many people and since I'm typically forced to "present" as a gender I'm not feeling during a certain day, it can become extremely frustrating and hard to bear.
Though, truthfully, most days I feel just... in the middle so I'll leave it at that. Though it's something I don't tell many people and since I'm typically forced to "present" as a gender I'm not feeling during a certain day, it can become extremely frustrating and hard to bear.
I'm born female and honestly, gender is pretty complicated for me. I don't feel masculine or feminine. And I hate hearing expectations to act feminine, because that's not me, but neither is the feeling of being masculine.
I'm mostly comfortable with my female body(with the exception of my chest which I feel shouldn't be there at all) so I know I'm not transsexual or anything. Eh, this is something I'm still exploring, though I think the safest bet is to just say I'm agender?
I'm also pretty androgynous in terms of looks. I wear baggy clothes to hide my chest(I really don't want a bind since I read that it could be pretty harmful). People aren't sure what my gender is on first glance, and I honestly I don't mind. I'm fine with any pronouns too, though I usually use she/her because family beliefs and all that.
I'm mostly comfortable with my female body(with the exception of my chest which I feel shouldn't be there at all) so I know I'm not transsexual or anything. Eh, this is something I'm still exploring, though I think the safest bet is to just say I'm agender?
I'm also pretty androgynous in terms of looks. I wear baggy clothes to hide my chest(I really don't want a bind since I read that it could be pretty harmful). People aren't sure what my gender is on first glance, and I honestly I don't mind. I'm fine with any pronouns too, though I usually use she/her because family beliefs and all that.
I'm born female and honestly, gender is pretty complicated for me. I don't feel masculine or feminine. And I hate hearing expectations to act feminine, because that's not me, but neither is the feeling of being masculine.
I'm mostly comfortable with my female body(with the exception of my chest which I feel shouldn't be there at all) so I know I'm not transsexual or anything. Eh, this is something I'm still exploring, though I think the safest bet is to just say I'm agender?
I'm also pretty androgynous in terms of looks. I wear baggy clothes to hide my chest(I really don't want a bind since I read that it could be pretty harmful). People aren't sure what my gender is on first glance, and I honestly I don't mind. I'm fine with any pronouns too, though I usually use she/her because family beliefs and all that.
I'm mostly comfortable with my female body(with the exception of my chest which I feel shouldn't be there at all) so I know I'm not transsexual or anything. Eh, this is something I'm still exploring, though I think the safest bet is to just say I'm agender?
I'm also pretty androgynous in terms of looks. I wear baggy clothes to hide my chest(I really don't want a bind since I read that it could be pretty harmful). People aren't sure what my gender is on first glance, and I honestly I don't mind. I'm fine with any pronouns too, though I usually use she/her because family beliefs and all that.
young man (he/him) on early T here, so i guess i'd be labeled as trans although i personally dislike slapping it on myself; i prefer just calling myself male, since that's what i am. now obviously it's fine if any of y'all don't mind labeling yourselves as such, or as a way to describe your identity and situation to others. i just don't like using it for myself.
i tried to "be more masculine" once i wanted to come out and transition, but i realized i just wasn't comfortable conforming to the expected macho norm just in order to "pass" or be accepted. i like my outward appearance to be masculine, but i just needed to accept that i'm allowed to be feminine too. like dude when i wear eyeliner for cosplay i can actually look pretty good?? i don't think i can exactly be categorized into a strict Masculine Or Feminine box lmao, i'm just?? Shrug Noises. but demeanor-wise i do find myself generally feminine, at least much more than what's considered Normal™ in today's society hahhhhh......... 8''^)
i don't know where i'm going with this but i guess i'm just really proud of being able to embrace a part of myself despite it making people misgender me more. a large chunk of people think feminine is a synonym for either girl or homosexual, and in using that misconception, they've made decisions for and scrutinized my identity. but i'm a feminine ace guy, that's all there is to it and it's great.
i tried to "be more masculine" once i wanted to come out and transition, but i realized i just wasn't comfortable conforming to the expected macho norm just in order to "pass" or be accepted. i like my outward appearance to be masculine, but i just needed to accept that i'm allowed to be feminine too. like dude when i wear eyeliner for cosplay i can actually look pretty good?? i don't think i can exactly be categorized into a strict Masculine Or Feminine box lmao, i'm just?? Shrug Noises. but demeanor-wise i do find myself generally feminine, at least much more than what's considered Normal™ in today's society hahhhhh......... 8''^)
i don't know where i'm going with this but i guess i'm just really proud of being able to embrace a part of myself despite it making people misgender me more. a large chunk of people think feminine is a synonym for either girl or homosexual, and in using that misconception, they've made decisions for and scrutinized my identity. but i'm a feminine ace guy, that's all there is to it and it's great.
young man (he/him) on early T here, so i guess i'd be labeled as trans although i personally dislike slapping it on myself; i prefer just calling myself male, since that's what i am. now obviously it's fine if any of y'all don't mind labeling yourselves as such, or as a way to describe your identity and situation to others. i just don't like using it for myself.
i tried to "be more masculine" once i wanted to come out and transition, but i realized i just wasn't comfortable conforming to the expected macho norm just in order to "pass" or be accepted. i like my outward appearance to be masculine, but i just needed to accept that i'm allowed to be feminine too. like dude when i wear eyeliner for cosplay i can actually look pretty good?? i don't think i can exactly be categorized into a strict Masculine Or Feminine box lmao, i'm just?? Shrug Noises. but demeanor-wise i do find myself generally feminine, at least much more than what's considered Normal™ in today's society hahhhhh......... 8''^)
i don't know where i'm going with this but i guess i'm just really proud of being able to embrace a part of myself despite it making people misgender me more. a large chunk of people think feminine is a synonym for either girl or homosexual, and in using that misconception, they've made decisions for and scrutinized my identity. but i'm a feminine ace guy, that's all there is to it and it's great.
i tried to "be more masculine" once i wanted to come out and transition, but i realized i just wasn't comfortable conforming to the expected macho norm just in order to "pass" or be accepted. i like my outward appearance to be masculine, but i just needed to accept that i'm allowed to be feminine too. like dude when i wear eyeliner for cosplay i can actually look pretty good?? i don't think i can exactly be categorized into a strict Masculine Or Feminine box lmao, i'm just?? Shrug Noises. but demeanor-wise i do find myself generally feminine, at least much more than what's considered Normal™ in today's society hahhhhh......... 8''^)
i don't know where i'm going with this but i guess i'm just really proud of being able to embrace a part of myself despite it making people misgender me more. a large chunk of people think feminine is a synonym for either girl or homosexual, and in using that misconception, they've made decisions for and scrutinized my identity. but i'm a feminine ace guy, that's all there is to it and it's great.
Genderfluid/flux. There are some days/weeks/months where I have absolutely no gender dysphoria, some where I have a huge amount, then some where I just want more of what I already have. Some moments where I don't want to deal with any gendered words, and some where I hate hearing specific ones used for me. There's also varying fluxes of each feeling, and sometimes I feel a mix of two or more conflicting things listed above. I've felt like this since I could remember, and started actually trying to find out more about it since I had access to computers.
So basically my gender is all over the place but I use the term genderfluid/flux because it's hard to explain in actual quantities what I'm feeling on a specific day. I can kind of 'feel' it in colours but??? That makes it way more confusing than it already is and doesn't actually make sense to anyone but myself.
I've told everyone I know online, but I haven't told most of my family because they're all super opinionated and think that being a gender other than what you were assigned at birth is a trend. I've only told my brother because I trust him far more than the rest of my family and know that he won't use it against me, but he doesn't understand it and uses the 'If I knew you as one thing I'm not going to suddenly call you something else' excuse, so it's still hard.
So basically my gender is all over the place but I use the term genderfluid/flux because it's hard to explain in actual quantities what I'm feeling on a specific day. I can kind of 'feel' it in colours but??? That makes it way more confusing than it already is and doesn't actually make sense to anyone but myself.
I've told everyone I know online, but I haven't told most of my family because they're all super opinionated and think that being a gender other than what you were assigned at birth is a trend. I've only told my brother because I trust him far more than the rest of my family and know that he won't use it against me, but he doesn't understand it and uses the 'If I knew you as one thing I'm not going to suddenly call you something else' excuse, so it's still hard.
Genderfluid/flux. There are some days/weeks/months where I have absolutely no gender dysphoria, some where I have a huge amount, then some where I just want more of what I already have. Some moments where I don't want to deal with any gendered words, and some where I hate hearing specific ones used for me. There's also varying fluxes of each feeling, and sometimes I feel a mix of two or more conflicting things listed above. I've felt like this since I could remember, and started actually trying to find out more about it since I had access to computers.
So basically my gender is all over the place but I use the term genderfluid/flux because it's hard to explain in actual quantities what I'm feeling on a specific day. I can kind of 'feel' it in colours but??? That makes it way more confusing than it already is and doesn't actually make sense to anyone but myself.
I've told everyone I know online, but I haven't told most of my family because they're all super opinionated and think that being a gender other than what you were assigned at birth is a trend. I've only told my brother because I trust him far more than the rest of my family and know that he won't use it against me, but he doesn't understand it and uses the 'If I knew you as one thing I'm not going to suddenly call you something else' excuse, so it's still hard.
So basically my gender is all over the place but I use the term genderfluid/flux because it's hard to explain in actual quantities what I'm feeling on a specific day. I can kind of 'feel' it in colours but??? That makes it way more confusing than it already is and doesn't actually make sense to anyone but myself.
I've told everyone I know online, but I haven't told most of my family because they're all super opinionated and think that being a gender other than what you were assigned at birth is a trend. I've only told my brother because I trust him far more than the rest of my family and know that he won't use it against me, but he doesn't understand it and uses the 'If I knew you as one thing I'm not going to suddenly call you something else' excuse, so it's still hard.
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I'm a person in a body. *shrug*
I guess I present as more "feminine" most of the time but honestly, I couldn't give a rat's *** about gender. My sex is female, I look female, so I just roll with that. Keeps things easy.
I'd rather English used gender neutral pronouns by default but I'm not gonna make people go out of their way to call me "they" or whatever. I just... don't really care that much. I'd be fine with "he" too. I don't caaaaaare
I guess I present as more "feminine" most of the time but honestly, I couldn't give a rat's *** about gender. My sex is female, I look female, so I just roll with that. Keeps things easy.
I'd rather English used gender neutral pronouns by default but I'm not gonna make people go out of their way to call me "they" or whatever. I just... don't really care that much. I'd be fine with "he" too. I don't caaaaaare
I'm a person in a body. *shrug*
I guess I present as more "feminine" most of the time but honestly, I couldn't give a rat's *** about gender. My sex is female, I look female, so I just roll with that. Keeps things easy.
I'd rather English used gender neutral pronouns by default but I'm not gonna make people go out of their way to call me "they" or whatever. I just... don't really care that much. I'd be fine with "he" too. I don't caaaaaare
I guess I present as more "feminine" most of the time but honestly, I couldn't give a rat's *** about gender. My sex is female, I look female, so I just roll with that. Keeps things easy.
I'd rather English used gender neutral pronouns by default but I'm not gonna make people go out of their way to call me "they" or whatever. I just... don't really care that much. I'd be fine with "he" too. I don't caaaaaare