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Here I am to learn you a thing about the secret to Ghostlight fodder training and liberate us all from a world of toridae and psywurms.
[columns][center][size=4]This is what freedom looks like:[/center]
[nextcol][color=transparent]...[nextcol][center][img]http://i.imgur.com/yNlgnP4.png[/img][/center][/columns]
[columns][item=scratch][nextcol][size=4]We have the[url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1764638] Ghostbuster build[/url] which has a scratch stone- building breath can be risky in the Ghostlight Ruins where physical mobs congregate with reckless abandon. Especially with more four-packs than the Mire.
Many thanks to JusticeTurtle for creating this original build.[/columns]
[columns][item=meditate][nextcol][size=4]We have the [url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/1767112]Ghostlight Monk build[/url], which builds breath and sets up quickly but dodged eliminates can force a refresh. The Contuse debuff also forces a refresh because a Monk cannot scratch/eliminate. Waiting for the debuff to come off requires luck, especially regarding how likely the Longneck Mediums will cast again.
Many thanks to Lamentations for creating this build, and making me consider other stones in lieu of Scratch.[/columns]
[columns][item=anticipate][nextcol][size=4]I suggest perhaps you consider the humble Anticipate stone, which is naturally found on Snappers and Bogsneaks. These issues disappear. One can reliably acquire enough breath for eliminating in two rounds, and can easily start building breath on four-packs. Dodged eliminates no longer force a refresh as well. [/columns]
[size=4]Anticipate has the speed of the Monk’s set up without the Meditate debuff and the endurance of the Ghostbuster build without the inability to set up on most of the packs. [/size]
The only disadvantage is that contuse hampers your abilities to eliminate enemies in one hit if Sap is not equipped.
Here I am to learn you a thing about the secret to Ghostlight fodder training and liberate us all from a world of toridae and psywurms.
This is what freedom looks like:
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Scratch
Energy Stone
A low damage scratching attack that generates some Breath.
25
Required Level: 1
We have the Ghostbuster build which has a scratch stone- building breath can be risky in the Ghostlight Ruins where physical mobs congregate with reckless abandon. Especially with more four-packs than the Mire.
Many thanks to JusticeTurtle for creating this original build.
Meditate
Energy Stone
The caster will focus on the surrounding magical energies, generating a large amount of Breath. Reduces physical damage dealt by 75% for two turns.
25
Required Level: 1
We have the Ghostlight Monk build, which builds breath and sets up quickly but dodged eliminates can force a refresh. The Contuse debuff also forces a refresh because a Monk cannot scratch/eliminate. Waiting for the debuff to come off requires luck, especially regarding how likely the Longneck Mediums will cast again.
Many thanks to Lamentations for creating this build, and making me consider other stones in lieu of Scratch.
Anticipate
Energy Stone
The caster steels themselves, reducing the damage of attacks made against them for the next turn, and generating 15 Breath when hit.
100
Required Level: 1
I suggest perhaps you consider the humble Anticipate stone, which is naturally found on Snappers and Bogsneaks. These issues disappear. One can reliably acquire enough breath for eliminating in two rounds, and can easily start building breath on four-packs. Dodged eliminates no longer force a refresh as well.
Anticipate has the speed of the Monk’s set up without the Meditate debuff and the endurance of the Ghostbuster build without the inability to set up on most of the packs.
The only disadvantage is that contuse hampers your abilities to eliminate enemies in one hit if Sap is not equipped.
[center][size=5][u]Show Me the Build![/size][/u][/center]
Stats in plain text are:[b] 64 QCK, 115 STR[/b]. Everything else in VIT[b]*[/b] then AGI.
This includes the stats given with Berserker stones- be careful when assigning them if you don't have a full set!
The best elements are going to be Water, Nature or Plague- the same as the Monk and Ghostbuster.
Necessary stones:
[item=anticipate][item=rally][item=eliminate][item=berserker]x3[item=ambush]x2
Pick two of the following:
[columns][item=Haste][nextcol][size=4]Haste is good for adding a free 5 breath at the very start, by refunding the turn used to haste the dragon.[/columns]
[columns][item=bolster][nextcol][size=4]Bolster is my next favorite recommendation. The damage reduction stacks with Anticipate[b]**[/b], making your dragon able to tank more hits. Its counterpart (Ward) is not as useful since Ghostlight is filled to the brim with physical enemies.[/columns]
[columns][item=Sap][nextcol][size=4]A popular option, which can be good to rebuild HP if you're battling mages. I tend to not have many opportunities to use Sap, but it is a good backup if your tank gets contused. [/columns]
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[sub]*The priority stats are QCK and STR- you may stat your dragon with as much VIT/AGI/DEF as you'd like with the points left over. After tincturing, I gave my dragon 41 VIT.
**Using Anticipate, your tank will take -20 dmg per attack with bolster as well. It's either -20 per hit when defending or -40 when not defending if you have a bolster buff. This is true no matter what base DEF you start with.
Stats in plain text are: 64 QCK, 115 STR. Everything else in VIT* then AGI.
This includes the stats given with Berserker stones- be careful when assigning them if you don't have a full set!
The best elements are going to be Water, Nature or Plague- the same as the Monk and Ghostbuster.
Necessary stones:
Anticipate
Energy Stone
The caster steels themselves, reducing the damage of attacks made against them for the next turn, and generating 15 Breath when hit.
100
Required Level: 1
Rally
Ability Stone
The target becomes empowered with incredible vigor, increasing their Strength stat for a short duration.
600
Required Level: 5
Eliminate
Ability Stone
A high damage deadly attack that attempts to finish the opponent off. Refunds breath if the enemy dies.
500
Required Level: 7
Berserker
Augment Stone
Grants +5 Strength, +3 Quickness and +1 Agility.
600
Required Level: 17
x3
Ambush
Accessory Stone
Grants a dragon the ability to strike first when a battle begins. After this attack, they will fall to their normal place in the turn line-up.
500
Required Level: 9
x2
Pick two of the following:
Haste
Ability Stone
Accelerates the senses of the target, allowing them to attack much faster.
600
Required Level: 5
Haste is good for adding a free 5 breath at the very start, by refunding the turn used to haste the dragon.
Bolster
Ability Stone
Places a barrier around the target, absorbing some damage from attackers.
600
Required Level: 5
Bolster is my next favorite recommendation. The damage reduction stacks with Anticipate**, making your dragon able to tank more hits. Its counterpart (Ward) is not as useful since Ghostlight is filled to the brim with physical enemies.
Sap
Ability Stone
A low damage bite attack that drains a small amount of health from the target and returns it to the caster.
550
Required Level: 3
A popular option, which can be good to rebuild HP if you're battling mages. I tend to not have many opportunities to use Sap, but it is a good backup if your tank gets contused.
*The priority stats are QCK and STR- you may stat your dragon with as much VIT/AGI/DEF as you'd like with the points left over. After tincturing, I gave my dragon 41 VIT.
**Using Anticipate, your tank will take -20 dmg per attack with bolster as well. It's either -20 per hit when defending or -40 when not defending if you have a bolster buff. This is true no matter what base DEF you start with.
[center][u][size=5]Instruction Manual[/u]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/H1TW8P4.gif][img]http://i.imgur.com/QytR6XF.png[/img]
A [b]link[/b] to a gif of setting up with the Salatank[/url]
A [b][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVlGJsmwBTw]link[/url][/b] to a VIDEO tutorial for the Anticitank by Moonpiebandit
[sup]Linked instead of shown as per complaints about lag, many thanks to @Tserin for creating the gif[/sup]
[i][b]This build can start on almost every pack in the Ruins.* [/b][/i][/center]
[b]Longneck Mediums[/b] are not your friends, packs involving two or more of them are not ideal starting packs. Jbapple and myself also recommend being careful starting on 3 packs of [b]Aer Sprites[/b] or [b]Lux Sprites.[/b] They are too fast to use Haste on the first turn for a free 5 breath, so just buff while they meditate the first round and then anticipate before their subsequent turns. [i]Refresh on any pack with two or more mages if you're feeling impatient.[/i]
[LIST=1][*]First “round”- apply defensive buffs (I do Haste > Bolster > Rally > Anticipate) and [b]only[/b] on the turn before the enemies, use Anticipate.
[LIST][*]The enemies will attack. Ideally, they will hit your anticipating trainer.
[*]Mages will not attack the first round; use buffs to build extra breath instead of anticipating this round.
[/LIST]
[*]Second “round”- Rally, Anticipate. If your trainer was hit twice, you can instead immediately begin eliminating enemies. If not, another round of anticipate[b]**[/b] is needed.
[LIST]
[*]The enemies will attack. Usually, this will give you the appropriate amount of breath for multiple eliminates so it’s likely even if your trainer gets dodged, recovering is easy.
[/LIST]
[*]Third “round”- You are ready to eliminate everything in your path.
[/LIST]
After the initial breath gathering pack, the Anticitank functions exactly like a Meditate Monk or Ghostbuster, or even a Mire Flyer- (Haste if you want) Rally, Eliminate.
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[sup]*It is noticeably faster to refresh against the meditating enemies.
**Using Anticipate before another of your own turns will only grant 4 breath and will not have the added bonus of granting additional breath. Only use Anticipate immediately before enemies that can attack.
This build can start on almost every pack in the Ruins.*
Longneck Mediums are not your friends, packs involving two or more of them are not ideal starting packs. Jbapple and myself also recommend being careful starting on 3 packs of Aer Sprites or Lux Sprites. They are too fast to use Haste on the first turn for a free 5 breath, so just buff while they meditate the first round and then anticipate before their subsequent turns. Refresh on any pack with two or more mages if you're feeling impatient.
First “round”- apply defensive buffs (I do Haste > Bolster > Rally > Anticipate) and only on the turn before the enemies, use Anticipate.
The enemies will attack. Ideally, they will hit your anticipating trainer.
Mages will not attack the first round; use buffs to build extra breath instead of anticipating this round.
Second “round”- Rally, Anticipate. If your trainer was hit twice, you can instead immediately begin eliminating enemies. If not, another round of anticipate** is needed.
The enemies will attack. Usually, this will give you the appropriate amount of breath for multiple eliminates so it’s likely even if your trainer gets dodged, recovering is easy.
Third “round”- You are ready to eliminate everything in your path.
After the initial breath gathering pack, the Anticitank functions exactly like a Meditate Monk or Ghostbuster, or even a Mire Flyer- (Haste if you want) Rally, Eliminate.
*It is noticeably faster to refresh against the meditating enemies.
**Using Anticipate before another of your own turns will only grant 4 breath and will not have the added bonus of granting additional breath. Only use Anticipate immediately before enemies that can attack.
[center][size=5][u]Redfoot's Variant[/center]
[b]The Redfoot stats in plaintext: 115 STR, 70 QCK, the rest into VIT/DEF.[/b]
Required stones:
[item=anticipate][item=rally][item=eliminate][item=berserker]x3[item=ambush]x2
Suggested stones:
[item=sap][item=haste]
The Redfoot variant is an alternative for someone who wants more hit points and isn't concerned with having enough QCK to have the same turn order as the original. The 76 QCK build has a predictable turn order that will remain consistent no matter the pack, but can be noticeably fragile.. As I understand it, the variant cannot start as reliably on certain mobs- and may not have as much versatility, but the 76 build is squishier.
Sylvandyr's times have shown minimal difference in speed, so the choice in build comes down to personal preference. My own trainers are the 76 QCK because I personally prefer the original turn order.
Original text:
[quote][i]I changed the stats to STR 115 / QCK 70 and rest into VIT and DEF. The only enemies this actually affects is the Sombre Spirits and the Otherworldly Aura, which are casters so doesn't effect play style very much. But it does give a hefty boost to VIT, for longer lasting rounds. I rarely have to restart in the middle of a fodder.
I also replaced the Bolster with a Sap. Helps if I get hit with a Contuse or to recover health in the middle of a run.
This changes my order of play a little at the beginning. When I start a round on something that isn't faster than me (Somber Spirit, Otherworldly Aura, vultures, Lux Spectre, Aer Phantom), I Haste, then Rally, then Anticipate. If I get hit twice before my next turn, I'm already ready to come out swinging.
I will only restart if I get a pack with two or more vultures or Longneck Medium. The Salatank can take on a 4-pack right off the bat, which is incredible. And if I have a full breath bar and full health bar, I can even take out a boss. This is my new go-to build.[/i][/quote]
[center][size=5][url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/2157767/7#post_27918444]Check out a potential Anticiflyer build for Mire here![/url][/center]
The Redfoot stats in plaintext: 115 STR, 70 QCK, the rest into VIT/DEF.
Required stones:
Anticipate
Energy Stone
The caster steels themselves, reducing the damage of attacks made against them for the next turn, and generating 15 Breath when hit.
100
Required Level: 1
Rally
Ability Stone
The target becomes empowered with incredible vigor, increasing their Strength stat for a short duration.
600
Required Level: 5
Eliminate
Ability Stone
A high damage deadly attack that attempts to finish the opponent off. Refunds breath if the enemy dies.
500
Required Level: 7
Berserker
Augment Stone
Grants +5 Strength, +3 Quickness and +1 Agility.
600
Required Level: 17
x3
Ambush
Accessory Stone
Grants a dragon the ability to strike first when a battle begins. After this attack, they will fall to their normal place in the turn line-up.
500
Required Level: 9
x2
Suggested stones:
Sap
Ability Stone
A low damage bite attack that drains a small amount of health from the target and returns it to the caster.
550
Required Level: 3
Haste
Ability Stone
Accelerates the senses of the target, allowing them to attack much faster.
600
Required Level: 5
The Redfoot variant is an alternative for someone who wants more hit points and isn't concerned with having enough QCK to have the same turn order as the original. The 76 QCK build has a predictable turn order that will remain consistent no matter the pack, but can be noticeably fragile.. As I understand it, the variant cannot start as reliably on certain mobs- and may not have as much versatility, but the 76 build is squishier.
Sylvandyr's times have shown minimal difference in speed, so the choice in build comes down to personal preference. My own trainers are the 76 QCK because I personally prefer the original turn order.
Original text:
Quote:
I changed the stats to STR 115 / QCK 70 and rest into VIT and DEF. The only enemies this actually affects is the Sombre Spirits and the Otherworldly Aura, which are casters so doesn't effect play style very much. But it does give a hefty boost to VIT, for longer lasting rounds. I rarely have to restart in the middle of a fodder.
I also replaced the Bolster with a Sap. Helps if I get hit with a Contuse or to recover health in the middle of a run.
This changes my order of play a little at the beginning. When I start a round on something that isn't faster than me (Somber Spirit, Otherworldly Aura, vultures, Lux Spectre, Aer Phantom), I Haste, then Rally, then Anticipate. If I get hit twice before my next turn, I'm already ready to come out swinging.
I will only restart if I get a pack with two or more vultures or Longneck Medium. The Salatank can take on a 4-pack right off the bat, which is incredible. And if I have a full breath bar and full health bar, I can even take out a boss. This is my new go-to build.
[center][size=5][u]Messy Sidenote Collection[/u][/center]
[LIST]
[*][u]Two Buffs or One:[/u] Haste + Bolster vs Sap + One Buff. I prefer Bolster + Sap but preferences can run the gamut.
[*][u]Training Permas:[/u] I actually don't really recommend this build while training other dragons to 25. As they get more and more health, they can take more hits for your trainer and while that's great past the first round, you actually want your trainer to get hit in the first round while you have anticipate going so you can build breath faster.
[*][u]Preferences:[/u] I think both builds are valid just like some people use 117str/72qck for mire and some use 119str/70qck. It's the balance between might die a lot versus might be slower to finish a battle.
[*][u]Ideal Element:[/u] Rough scores for trainer elements in the Ruins based on resistance/weakness to elemental mages found there (ignoring encounter frequency):
[LIST]
[*]Earth: -2, worst
[*]Wind, Shadow, Light, Lightning, Arcane, Ice: -1
[*]Plague: 0
[*]Water: 1
[*]Nature: 2, best
[*]My personal preference is Nature. I like that my trainer resists Longneck Scholars.
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[quote name="Bosshunting with snugglebug"]
[Using 155 STR/76 QCK]
[url=http://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gde/2157767/16#post_32765661]my[/url] anticitank has the stones eliminate, rally, bolster, and shred. iirc i dumped all its extra stat points into vitality, putting its health a little over 1000. generally, i want to start a boss battle with at least 800 health, but i've had some success with as low as 650 if i get lucky with a dodge &or a critical hit.
i always run with two fodder. these are essential since they'll take damage while my trainer is fighting unguarded.
for the first three turns:
[b]less than 30 breath:[/b] rally, shred, bolster. gets in some early damage and some long-lasting defense jic the boss decides to hit me rather than the two other dragons.
[b]30-64 breath:[/b] rally, eliminate, bolster or shred if i have enough breath to shred.
[b]65+ breath:[/b] rally, eliminate, eliminate. hope the boss hits the fodder.
after the boss attacks, i either use a bolster (if i haven't already) or renew rally. then anticipate.
general strategy here on out is to use the first of my double-turns to renew rally, renew shred, or renew bolster. i bolster if i'm worried my health is getting too low; i renew rally if i'm about to have the breath for eliminate.
always anticipate immediately before the boss attacks or i'll never get the breath to use another eliminate. if the boss is low health and skipping an anticipate to use eliminate (or even shred) might finish it off, i go for the attack. if i'm low health that i'm not likely to survive another turn, i go for the attack regardless because i might get lucky with a critical hit.
higher level fodder stay alive longer, so it gets easier to farm bosses the longer i'm training. if a fodder dragon ever gets a turn, use a potion on the trainer.
unless a fight is undeniably hopeless, i find its best to just go thru the motions--you never kno when a boss'll miss or you'll land a crit!
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[quote name="Using Guard with mothscale"]
Since I can't find any recent talk about this in-thread and don't know if anyone's talked about it specifically out-of-thread: for anyone interested out there, a stray comment about how Guard works somewhere inspired me to replace my Bolster with Guard and try it out! It's actually surprisingly effective at getting the enemies to fill her breath gauge faster, though obviously still subject to RNG (…Guard can apparently sometimes just… not work? and doesn't build breath by itself…)
My rhythm's been Haste-Guard [top trainee]-Rally-Anticipate for starting vs. physical mobs and a lot more Rallying to build breath for starting vs. spellcaster mobs.
The main differences I've noticed:
Getting enough breath to Eliminate every single enemy on the second round is a lot more common because you get breath for 2/3 of the potential targets.
Harder to defeat Bosses— Nature boss is pretty comparable, since I use a Nature dragon, but without Bolster or Sap the Neutral boss is an absolute health-potion eating nightmare. That Shred is terrifying. (This means I'll probably switch back to another battlestone at some point since, of course, that's the boss I don't have.)
Guard doesn't build breath on its own and sometimes enemies can punch through it to hit the guarded trainee, so it's adding RNG— as opposed to Bolster, which always does exactly the same thing. On the other hand, it makes it more feasible to train higher-level trainees without losing turns to how buff and strong they are when the enemies focus their fire. Since I like training to level 7, this is quite nice.
There are probably other combinations of stones if you don't like Haste, but I don't know if/how they'd work.
Fortunately for me, Guard, Bolster, and Sap are all nice and cheap if I want to cycle through them. I don't know, just wanted to throw that out there in case other people wanted to experiment?
[/quote]
Many thanks to Tserin, enivrec, Thoracosaurus, Battler, jbapple, Sylvandyr, Bumbleheart, and Ice flight for testing and feedback!
Two Buffs or One: Haste + Bolster vs Sap + One Buff. I prefer Bolster + Sap but preferences can run the gamut.
Training Permas: I actually don't really recommend this build while training other dragons to 25. As they get more and more health, they can take more hits for your trainer and while that's great past the first round, you actually want your trainer to get hit in the first round while you have anticipate going so you can build breath faster.
Preferences: I think both builds are valid just like some people use 117str/72qck for mire and some use 119str/70qck. It's the balance between might die a lot versus might be slower to finish a battle.
Ideal Element: Rough scores for trainer elements in the Ruins based on resistance/weakness to elemental mages found there (ignoring encounter frequency):
Earth: -2, worst
Wind, Shadow, Light, Lightning, Arcane, Ice: -1
Plague: 0
Water: 1
Nature: 2, best
My personal preference is Nature. I like that my trainer resists Longneck Scholars.
Bosshunting with snugglebug wrote:
[Using 155 STR/76 QCK]
my anticitank has the stones eliminate, rally, bolster, and shred. iirc i dumped all its extra stat points into vitality, putting its health a little over 1000. generally, i want to start a boss battle with at least 800 health, but i've had some success with as low as 650 if i get lucky with a dodge &or a critical hit.
i always run with two fodder. these are essential since they'll take damage while my trainer is fighting unguarded.
for the first three turns:
less than 30 breath: rally, shred, bolster. gets in some early damage and some long-lasting defense jic the boss decides to hit me rather than the two other dragons. 30-64 breath: rally, eliminate, bolster or shred if i have enough breath to shred. 65+ breath: rally, eliminate, eliminate. hope the boss hits the fodder.
after the boss attacks, i either use a bolster (if i haven't already) or renew rally. then anticipate.
general strategy here on out is to use the first of my double-turns to renew rally, renew shred, or renew bolster. i bolster if i'm worried my health is getting too low; i renew rally if i'm about to have the breath for eliminate.
always anticipate immediately before the boss attacks or i'll never get the breath to use another eliminate. if the boss is low health and skipping an anticipate to use eliminate (or even shred) might finish it off, i go for the attack. if i'm low health that i'm not likely to survive another turn, i go for the attack regardless because i might get lucky with a critical hit.
higher level fodder stay alive longer, so it gets easier to farm bosses the longer i'm training. if a fodder dragon ever gets a turn, use a potion on the trainer.
unless a fight is undeniably hopeless, i find its best to just go thru the motions--you never kno when a boss'll miss or you'll land a crit!
Using Guard with mothscale wrote:
Since I can't find any recent talk about this in-thread and don't know if anyone's talked about it specifically out-of-thread: for anyone interested out there, a stray comment about how Guard works somewhere inspired me to replace my Bolster with Guard and try it out! It's actually surprisingly effective at getting the enemies to fill her breath gauge faster, though obviously still subject to RNG (…Guard can apparently sometimes just… not work? and doesn't build breath by itself…)
My rhythm's been Haste-Guard [top trainee]-Rally-Anticipate for starting vs. physical mobs and a lot more Rallying to build breath for starting vs. spellcaster mobs.
The main differences I've noticed:
Getting enough breath to Eliminate every single enemy on the second round is a lot more common because you get breath for 2/3 of the potential targets.
Harder to defeat Bosses— Nature boss is pretty comparable, since I use a Nature dragon, but without Bolster or Sap the Neutral boss is an absolute health-potion eating nightmare. That Shred is terrifying. (This means I'll probably switch back to another battlestone at some point since, of course, that's the boss I don't have.)
Guard doesn't build breath on its own and sometimes enemies can punch through it to hit the guarded trainee, so it's adding RNG— as opposed to Bolster, which always does exactly the same thing. On the other hand, it makes it more feasible to train higher-level trainees without losing turns to how buff and strong they are when the enemies focus their fire. Since I like training to level 7, this is quite nice.
There are probably other combinations of stones if you don't like Haste, but I don't know if/how they'd work.
Fortunately for me, Guard, Bolster, and Sap are all nice and cheap if I want to cycle through them. I don't know, just wanted to throw that out there in case other people wanted to experiment?
Many thanks to Tserin, enivrec, Thoracosaurus, Battler, jbapple, Sylvandyr, Bumbleheart, and Ice flight for testing and feedback!
This is a good build. Although Mire is still slightly faster at level 5+, this is hands down the fastest lv4 training build available at the moment. (Especially since Mire is now on the second page.)
It's an alternate option if you don't want to grind in Mire or are in the market for chance Eliminate drops (which are really rare but still).
Some speed test comparisons. The difference in current level 4 times is really large (16%). I train in the Mire for lv5+ but use this build for Ghostlight if I want to train lv4s, either when conquesting or when other flights are buying lv4s for good prices.
This is a good build. Although Mire is still slightly faster at level 5+, this is hands down the fastest lv4 training build available at the moment. (Especially since Mire is now on the second page.)
It's an alternate option if you don't want to grind in Mire or are in the market for chance Eliminate drops (which are really rare but still).
Some speed test comparisons. The difference in current level 4 times is really large (16%). I train in the Mire for lv5+ but use this build for Ghostlight if I want to train lv4s, either when conquesting or when other flights are buying lv4s for good prices.
I've trialed two versions of the salatank; Nature dragon with Haste and Bolster
and Water dragon with Haste and Sap
the former of which was restoned from a Ghostbuster, and the latter was my solution to "OMG so much meat, why did I choose a carnivore, I regret everything"
I have found that the salatank results in less food loss to restarts than the Ghostbuster, due to the wide range of packs it can start on. Sometimes I can even take out bosses with the Salatank (needs near full health, some orange health potions and a bit of luck. Nature element has the advantage of resisting one boss' elemental attack for very little damage.)
My personal preference is for the Sap variety; lets you sap back what you lose to the lack of bolster if you pick your moments right. This little tundra even found me an Eliminate~
I've trialed two versions of the salatank; Nature dragon with Haste and Bolster
and Water dragon with Haste and Sap
the former of which was restoned from a Ghostbuster, and the latter was my solution to "OMG so much meat, why did I choose a carnivore, I regret everything"
I have found that the salatank results in less food loss to restarts than the Ghostbuster, due to the wide range of packs it can start on. Sometimes I can even take out bosses with the Salatank (needs near full health, some orange health potions and a bit of luck. Nature element has the advantage of resisting one boss' elemental attack for very little damage.)
My personal preference is for the Sap variety; lets you sap back what you lose to the lack of bolster if you pick your moments right. This little tundra even found me an Eliminate~
I've been testing this build for the past week, during the festival, once Sylvandyr recommended it to me. It took a while to get used to (it requires more refreshing than the Mire Flyer build, for instance), but it's very quick to start up again. I usually go ahead and refresh 'til I get a pack with at least two melee monsters, because I don't like to wait for the mages to meditate and eventually attack.
I'll be adding it as a possible build in my Coli guide - I ended up really liking it!
I've been testing this build for the past week, during the festival, once Sylvandyr recommended it to me. It took a while to get used to (it requires more refreshing than the Mire Flyer build, for instance), but it's very quick to start up again. I usually go ahead and refresh 'til I get a pack with at least two melee monsters, because I don't like to wait for the mages to meditate and eventually attack.
I'll be adding it as a possible build in my Coli guide - I ended up really liking it!
I love this build! I now have both varieties (the original Sala build and a Redfoot patch build)!
I've been using the build for a while now and would thoroughly recommend it!
My personal preference is for the original Anticitank, but having the second one for a "change" is nice.
I also scored an eliminate testing out this build in the Ruins and have recently had a second one drop. Thank you very much @Salamanderpie for this awesome build (and @Redfoot for the suggested modifications)!
I love this build! I now have both varieties (the original Sala build and a Redfoot patch build)!
I've been using the build for a while now and would thoroughly recommend it!
My personal preference is for the original Anticitank, but having the second one for a "change" is nice.
I also scored an eliminate testing out this build in the Ruins and have recently had a second one drop. Thank you very much @Salamanderpie for this awesome build (and @Redfoot for the suggested modifications)!
this build feeds me money during pushes \o/ GLR builds are great for a change from the Mire, this one in particular is my personal favorite to use. I use the Redfoot variant of it for both of my trainers using this, and it works amazingly well for fodder training.
this build feeds me money during pushes \o/ GLR builds are great for a change from the Mire, this one in particular is my personal favorite to use. I use the Redfoot variant of it for both of my trainers using this, and it works amazingly well for fodder training.
