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TOPIC | What’s the point of the inbreeding pre-
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@QuirkyJunimo [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/32485707][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/324858/32485707_350.png[/img][/url] They share this dragon, Kaliea, ^ as a common ancestor, who is the parent of this dragon: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/51023978][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/510240/51023978_350.png[/img][/url] This dragon, Theron, ^ is the parent of [b]Fire[/b]. Kaliea is also the parent of this dragon: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/51023979][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/510240/51023979_350.png[/img][/url] This dragon, Laurina, ^ is the parent of this dragon: [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/54857439][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/548575/54857439_350.png[/img][/url] This dragon, Kyan, is the parent of [b]Ash[/b].
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They share this dragon, Kaliea, ^ as a common ancestor, who is the parent of this dragon:

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This dragon, Theron, ^ is the parent of Fire.

Kaliea is also the parent of this dragon:

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This dragon, Laurina, ^ is the parent of this dragon:

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This dragon, Kyan, is the parent of Ash.
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concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/
concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/
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[quote name="Munchcatto" date="2021-08-16 17:33:42" ] concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/ [/quote] Literally this Was just a question y'all. Other games that involve breeding for colors / patterns / etc occasionally allow inbreeding to a degree. Some dont, some do. They were just curious.
Munchcatto wrote on 2021-08-16 17:33:42:
concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/

Literally this
Was just a question y'all. Other games that involve breeding for colors / patterns / etc occasionally allow inbreeding to a degree. Some dont, some do. They were just curious.
@QuirkyJunimo Dang, lonelyspaceegg beat me to it, but I'll post what I have anyway because I also include something extra. [emoji=guardian tongue] Using [url=https://flightrising.com/main.php?p=scrying&view=bloodlines]Assay Bloodlines[/url], [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/70527205][b]Fire[/b][/url] and [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/55878162][b]Ash[/b][/url] cannot breed because they are related to a common ancestor, Kailea (#32485707). [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/32485707][img]https://www1.flightrising.com/rendern/350/324858/32485707_350.png[/img][/url] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/70527205]Fire[/url]'s father is Theron, Kailea's son. Fire is Kailea's [b]grandson.[/b] Fire -> [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/51023978]Theron[/url] -> [b]Kailea[/b] [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/55878162]Ash[/url]'s father is Kyan. Kyan's mother is Laurinda. Laurinda is Kailea's daughter. Ash is Kailea's [b]great-granddaughter.[/b] Ash -> [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/54857439]Kyan[/url] -> [url=https://www1.flightrising.com/dragon/51023979]Laurinda[/url] -> [b]Kailea[/b] Regarding the element thing, dragons are element of the [b]nest[/b] that they were born in. What lair they end up in or what elemental nest they were hatched in has no bearing on their ability to breed together, all that matters is the lineage. People may move Flights or rent out nests, so it's not unusual for ancestors to be a different element! ^^
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Dang, lonelyspaceegg beat me to it, but I'll post what I have anyway because I also include something extra.

Using Assay Bloodlines, Fire and Ash cannot breed because they are related to a common ancestor, Kailea (#32485707).
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Fire's father is Theron, Kailea's son. Fire is Kailea's grandson.
Fire -> Theron -> Kailea

Ash's father is Kyan. Kyan's mother is Laurinda. Laurinda is Kailea's daughter. Ash is Kailea's great-granddaughter.
Ash -> Kyan -> Laurinda -> Kailea

Regarding the element thing, dragons are element of the nest that they were born in. What lair they end up in or what elemental nest they were hatched in has no bearing on their ability to breed together, all that matters is the lineage. People may move Flights or rent out nests, so it's not unusual for ancestors to be a different element! ^^
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[quote name="Munchcatto" date="2021-08-16 17:33:42" ] concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/ [/quote] ^ This This is a [i]game[/i] people. They are a bunch of pretty pixels not sentient beings. Lore only exists for people who search it out. Don't get mad at people for enjoying the game differently then you.
Munchcatto wrote on 2021-08-16 17:33:42:
concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/
^ This

This is a game people. They are a bunch of pretty pixels not sentient beings. Lore only exists for people who search it out. Don't get mad at people for enjoying the game differently then you.
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Jeeze guys chill, they asked a question they didn't say they supported it

The question irked me a bit too but many of the responses here are down right accusatory and treating it like OP killed their parents.

As for why.. well thats already been answered. And honestly i would never want any inbreeding mechanic in fr anyway, it’d be too easy to get desired colours with it and just the moral implications… ack
Jeeze guys chill, they asked a question they didn't say they supported it

The question irked me a bit too but many of the responses here are down right accusatory and treating it like OP killed their parents.

As for why.. well thats already been answered. And honestly i would never want any inbreeding mechanic in fr anyway, it’d be too easy to get desired colours with it and just the moral implications… ack
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[quote name="Munchcatto" date="2021-08-16 17:33:42" ] concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/ [/quote] Yeah, it's definitely not a bad question to ask. Mechanics aside, there is a lot of media and old stories where dragon lore just ignores the consequences of inbreeding, so it's not unreasonable to imagine FR dragons might be similar conceptually. Dragons are fantasy creatures who can reproduce in any way we imagine, inbreeding could just not be a problem for them regardless of how we humans feel about it. But, I definitely prefer no inbreeding in my pet breeding game.
Munchcatto wrote on 2021-08-16 17:33:42:
concerning how people immediately assumed the worst of OP instead of simply answering what was ultimately a question directed at a game mechanic, not an ethical/moral debate. :/
Yeah, it's definitely not a bad question to ask. Mechanics aside, there is a lot of media and old stories where dragon lore just ignores the consequences of inbreeding, so it's not unreasonable to imagine FR dragons might be similar conceptually. Dragons are fantasy creatures who can reproduce in any way we imagine, inbreeding could just not be a problem for them regardless of how we humans feel about it. But, I definitely prefer no inbreeding in my pet breeding game.
As other people have said, it’s a combination of breeding difficulty and also making it forbidden for moral reasons. Breeding for specific colors would be way easier if you didn’t have bloodlines to worry about, so breeding what you want without inbreeding is a challenge. And I guess setting a hard limit as to how related dragons can be and still be able to breed prevents any issues players would have with arguments on whether or not you should inbred. (Plus it makes it easier for players who would want to avoid inbreeding no matter what, because the game won’t really let you inbreed by accident. On other games like Wolvden that allow it, avoiding inbreeding can be a huge pain.)
As other people have said, it’s a combination of breeding difficulty and also making it forbidden for moral reasons. Breeding for specific colors would be way easier if you didn’t have bloodlines to worry about, so breeding what you want without inbreeding is a challenge. And I guess setting a hard limit as to how related dragons can be and still be able to breed prevents any issues players would have with arguments on whether or not you should inbred. (Plus it makes it easier for players who would want to avoid inbreeding no matter what, because the game won’t really let you inbreed by accident. On other games like Wolvden that allow it, avoiding inbreeding can be a huge pain.)
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FR’s breeding system is pretty simple, so inbreeding would make going for certain colours/genes too easy. Other sites like Wajas allow inbreeding, but they tend to have super complex breeding systems with gene/mutation visibility percentages and hex code colours and stuff.

As a weird old bit of FR trivia: I remember that there was a bug several years ago that let people inbreed dragons, though (like 2013-2015ish?). It’s been fixed, but the hatchlings of inbred pairs are infertile- they can’t be bred with any other dragon on the site. :0 Every now and then, one of these infertile dragons will go up for sale, but IIRC they’re crazy expensive.
FR’s breeding system is pretty simple, so inbreeding would make going for certain colours/genes too easy. Other sites like Wajas allow inbreeding, but they tend to have super complex breeding systems with gene/mutation visibility percentages and hex code colours and stuff.

As a weird old bit of FR trivia: I remember that there was a bug several years ago that let people inbreed dragons, though (like 2013-2015ish?). It’s been fixed, but the hatchlings of inbred pairs are infertile- they can’t be bred with any other dragon on the site. :0 Every now and then, one of these infertile dragons will go up for sale, but IIRC they’re crazy expensive.
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i understand this question was not worded in the best way, i did a little double take too when i clicked in initially like "woah there," but from reading op's later posts it seems like op is just curious about the game mechanic. no need to assume the worst.

anyway, i'm sure many have already answered the question, but the mechanic is there to prevent the player from having too easy a time of breeding dragons. this is why one should always assay bloodlines before buying for breeding projects. too many people have learned that the hard way haha
i understand this question was not worded in the best way, i did a little double take too when i clicked in initially like "woah there," but from reading op's later posts it seems like op is just curious about the game mechanic. no need to assume the worst.

anyway, i'm sure many have already answered the question, but the mechanic is there to prevent the player from having too easy a time of breeding dragons. this is why one should always assay bloodlines before buying for breeding projects. too many people have learned that the hard way haha
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