I'm really pleased that you've taken the time to really sit down and lay out all of the things that have happened, and will happen in the future. With such a small staff, you've done some amazing things, and I know your userbase appreciates your transparency on this recent trouble too.
That said, I don't agree with the decision to keep Thrage on, even if his role is behind the scenes.
He's still a part of the process, still making a salary, still taking money from your trans* users and supporters he's treated so poorly. I hope you can understand how that makes us feel.
Realistically, I know it's probably near impossible to find someone else to take over these specific systems he's set up already, so I imagine this puts you guys in a rough spot. I think most will understand that, even if we don't like the decision.
Thanks for everything you do, and I think we all hope to see great things from the rest of the team, as always.
I'm really pleased that you've taken the time to really sit down and lay out all of the things that have happened, and will happen in the future. With such a small staff, you've done some amazing things, and I know your userbase appreciates your transparency on this recent trouble too.
That said, I don't agree with the decision to keep Thrage on, even if his role is behind the scenes.
He's still a part of the process, still making a salary, still taking money from your trans* users and supporters he's treated so poorly. I hope you can understand how that makes us feel.
Realistically, I know it's probably near impossible to find someone else to take over these specific systems he's set up already, so I imagine this puts you guys in a rough spot. I think most will understand that, even if we don't like the decision.
Thanks for everything you do, and I think we all hope to see great things from the rest of the team, as always.
This is utterly unacceptable.
I cannot put into words how betrayed I feel at the moment.
This is utterly unacceptable.
I cannot put into words how betrayed I feel at the moment.
Psst. Hover over my avatar.
I propose that those of you who have a problem with Thrage's personal views do as Akiri suggests and take it up with him PERSONALLY.
The option is there for you.
The rest of the admin have nothing to do with his views, but apparently you're going to attack them because, god forbid, they didn't go snooping around in his personal **** before hiring him (I don't give two damns if it's a commonly accepted practice to violate people's privacy like that these days...background checks should not extend beyond previous employment and criminal records, sorry).
I propose that those of you who have a problem with Thrage's personal views do as Akiri suggests and take it up with him PERSONALLY.
The option is there for you.
The rest of the admin have nothing to do with his views, but apparently you're going to attack them because, god forbid, they didn't go snooping around in his personal **** before hiring him (I don't give two damns if it's a commonly accepted practice to violate people's privacy like that these days...background checks should not extend beyond previous employment and criminal records, sorry).
Honestly, I'm disappointed that we were misled as to his continued involvement in the site. Is this why most of the games have been broken?
I appreciate your contributions to the two causes. However, I have to admit I'm concerned about future financial contributions to the site. I want my money to support this site and its possibilities, but I don't want to fund the person who laughed at me behind my back (while apologizing to my face) and who thinks me and mine are subhuman. What can be done to address this?
Honestly, I'm disappointed that we were misled as to his continued involvement in the site. Is this why most of the games have been broken?
I appreciate your contributions to the two causes. However, I have to admit I'm concerned about future financial contributions to the site. I want my money to support this site and its possibilities, but I don't want to fund the person who laughed at me behind my back (while apologizing to my face) and who thinks me and mine are subhuman. What can be done to address this?
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Mushalor - those comments were buried deep in his facebook, and made before this game was launched. Furthermore, as 'corrosive' as they may appear, they were opinions and in no way direct attacks on anyone. He was stating simply his views in a debate that he thought at the time would remain confined to Facebook.
You are really demonizing him for saying ONE thing on a website, six months ago, that he very clearly regrets saying. You are demonizing the staff and making everyone appear 'insensitive' to your views.
Let me tell you what. I have views too. I believe people have the freedom to share their ideals, no matter how uncomfortable they are. I believe you're being completely insensitive to this opinion. He is not 'discriminating' against your community, his beliefs have NEVER bled through to his professional work, and yet you continue to hunt him down with a pitchfork and a torch screaming for blood.
Just quit, if you can't handle it. Get off the site. For everyone's sake.
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Mushalor - those comments were buried deep in his facebook, and made before this game was launched. Furthermore, as 'corrosive' as they may appear, they were opinions and in no way direct attacks on anyone. He was stating simply his views in a debate that he thought at the time would remain confined to Facebook.
You are really demonizing him for saying ONE thing on a website, six months ago, that he very clearly regrets saying. You are demonizing the staff and making everyone appear 'insensitive' to your views.
Let me tell you what. I have views too. I believe people have the freedom to share their ideals, no matter how uncomfortable they are. I believe you're being completely insensitive to this opinion. He is not 'discriminating' against your community, his beliefs have NEVER bled through to his professional work, and yet you continue to hunt him down with a pitchfork and a torch screaming for blood.
Just quit, if you can't handle it. Get off the site. For everyone's sake.
Thank you for your professionalism in attempting to handle this situation, and for the donations made in the site's name.
I am, however, profoundly disappointed that Thrage will still be working on the site, and getting money from it. I feel like you missed the point completely.
I'm choosing to leave the site. I don't want my money - from ad revenue or gem sales - going toward someone so vocally hateful and cavalier about so many of the people paying his bills. It doesn't matter whether he's an admin or not. He's still getting our money.
I'm very sad about this because I love this game. I wish you the best of luck in your site's growth.
Thank you for your professionalism in attempting to handle this situation, and for the donations made in the site's name.
I am, however, profoundly disappointed that Thrage will still be working on the site, and getting money from it. I feel like you missed the point completely.
I'm choosing to leave the site. I don't want my money - from ad revenue or gem sales - going toward someone so vocally hateful and cavalier about so many of the people paying his bills. It doesn't matter whether he's an admin or not. He's still getting our money.
I'm very sad about this because I love this game. I wish you the best of luck in your site's growth.
Do you guys really want to push all of the work onto poor Akiri because you're too offended to think about how this will affect the site?
He doesn't have a damn administration position anymore, he's just way in the back coding. If you removed him, I imagine a lot of the problems you're complaining about will not be fixed for a very long time because you'll have only one programmer working on them. Then again, since a lot of you are not buying gems anymore and have turned adblock back on, I guess you don't really care about the site in the first place.
Do you guys really want to push all of the work onto poor Akiri because you're too offended to think about how this will affect the site?
He doesn't have a damn administration position anymore, he's just way in the back coding. If you removed him, I imagine a lot of the problems you're complaining about will not be fixed for a very long time because you'll have only one programmer working on them. Then again, since a lot of you are not buying gems anymore and have turned adblock back on, I guess you don't really care about the site in the first place.
Flight Rising is a business, not a group of buddies arguing over a card game.
I believe the correct response, for any business, would have been to fire him.
I love this game, I was planning on spending my "fun" money here, I've whitelisted FR on my adblocker.
I'm relieved Thrage stepped down from his position of authority, but I'm sure as heck not paying his salary. While he works for FR, while his salary is being paid by FR, I will adblock FR and not spend real money.
I don't want to spoil this game, but it's just a game. The people he hurt are real.
Flight Rising is a business, not a group of buddies arguing over a card game.
I believe the correct response, for any business, would have been to fire him.
I love this game, I was planning on spending my "fun" money here, I've whitelisted FR on my adblocker.
I'm relieved Thrage stepped down from his position of authority, but I'm sure as heck not paying his salary. While he works for FR, while his salary is being paid by FR, I will adblock FR and not spend real money.
I don't want to spoil this game, but it's just a game. The people he hurt are real.
im honestly really disappointed to hear he'll still be working on the site and (presumably) getting paid. on the other hand, the staff handled this wonderfully and im grateful
everyone defending thrage needs to realize this was never about "opinions" and "freedom of speech", and also need to stop calling everyone who wants him gone "insane" or a "tumblr social justice" etc etc because it isnt your place to even say anything
im honestly really disappointed to hear he'll still be working on the site and (presumably) getting paid. on the other hand, the staff handled this wonderfully and im grateful
everyone defending thrage needs to realize this was never about "opinions" and "freedom of speech", and also need to stop calling everyone who wants him gone "insane" or a "tumblr social justice" etc etc because it isnt your place to even say anything
I believe in second chances and Thrage should get one. He's coming back later to just do programming stuff. He's not part of the admin group anymore.
This started when someone was doing research before paying and found his public facebook and took screenshots. I saw the post on tumblr and here. I was hurt by his comments, but I've moved on. It's in the past.
Everyone needs to calm down please.
Maybe this announcement should be locked.
I believe in second chances and Thrage should get one. He's coming back later to just do programming stuff. He's not part of the admin group anymore.
This started when someone was doing research before paying and found his public facebook and took screenshots. I saw the post on tumblr and here. I was hurt by his comments, but I've moved on. It's in the past.
Everyone needs to calm down please.
Maybe this announcement should be locked.